Re: Dennett and others on qualia

On 12/23/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:22, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Oct 2012, at 18:57, meekerdb wrote: Good points. The contrast is usually qualia-v-quanta. I think color can be communicated and we have an "RGB" language

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

On 12/23/2012 11:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, in defense of Craig, or of the devil, this has not been proved. The problem occurs, or at least is "easy" to prove only when we make the digital assumption

Re: the cult and the gospel

Hi On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:46, Roger Clough wrote: Hi It's time somebody said it. Materialism is a cult and atheism is its gospel. Not necessarily. You can also see it as an assumption in need of clarification. Or as a theory in need of a refutation. But historically you are right, the ide

Re: Against Mechanism

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> as I said, there is no such thing as "the" future 1p view, there is > only "a" future 1p view. > > > But you have been duplicated. > Yes. > from your future person points of view > In a world of duplicating machines there is no such t

the cult and the gospel

Hi It's time somebody said it. Materialism is a cult and atheism is its gospel. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/23/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything Lis

Re: the truth of science and the truth of religion

On 13 Dec 2012, at 20:33, meekerdb wrote: On 12/13/2012 9:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So I have no conflicts with science as long as I keep in mind what kind of truth is referred to. There is one truth. Let us search it. There are many true propositions, but I don't think they can be

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

On 28 Nov 2012, at 17:42, meekerdb wrote: On 11/28/2012 2:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The question though is how does that happen? Actually comp is better than physics here. in physics we don't know why and how electron obey the SWE. It is the ureasonable use of math in physics. With c

Re: Dennett and others on qualia

On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:22, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Oct 2012, at 18:57, meekerdb wrote: Good points. The contrast is usually qualia-v-quanta. I think color can be communicated and we have an "RGB" language for doing so that makes it more quanta th

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, in defense of Craig, or of the devil, this has not been proved. The problem occurs, or at least is "easy" to prove only when we make the digital assumption. This entails a truncation of the subject

Re: Interactions between mind and brain

On 23 Oct 2012, at 08:03, meekerdb wrote: On 10/22/2012 11:35 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/22/2012 6:05 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: I don't understand why you're focusing on NP-hard problems... NP- hard problems are solvable algorithmically... but not efficiently. When I read you (I'm su

Re: Against Mechanism

On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:01, meekerdb wrote: On 12/22/2012 11:56 AM, Jason Resch wrote: Deutsch et al. have solved the probability problem. I don't think so. If you are referring to his decision analysis, it only seems to work for simple binary choices - QM predicts probabilities that ar

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

On 22 Dec 2012, at 17:05, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi Bruno, On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > The infinite set of natural numbers is not stored on anything, Which causes no problem because there is not a infinite number of anything in the observable universe, probabl

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

On 22 Dec 2012, at 11:58, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Thanks very much. Then could we not simply continue your train of thought to say that 1) all universal Turing machines require an extraneous UTM to interpret them, etc. etc. etc. That's why we have to assume at least one. Bu

Re: Against Mechanism

On 22 Dec 2012, at 19:54, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> In a world with duplicating chambers there is no such thing as "the" future 1p view. Of course there is. There are two such future 1-view. Then as I said, there is no such thing as "the" future 1p v

Re: Time travel and eternal life

Roger, Don't you believe you already have eternal life. I do and I am not even Christian. Richard On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Bruno Marchal and all, > > Do you not realize that 1p far enough into the past (presumably accessible > to time travel), where your parents a

Re: Re: How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett rightafter all ?

Hi Jason Resch You're right. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/23/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-22, 14:16:52 Subject: Re: How visual images ar

Time travel and eternal life

Hi Bruno Marchal and all, Do you not realize that 1p far enough into the past (presumably accessible to time travel), where your parents and past friends are still alive, is a form of eternal life ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/23/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the e

Re: How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett right after all ?

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 12/22/2012 10:02 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:50 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/22/2012 5:10 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 12/22/2012 1:21 PM, Ja

Re: How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett right after all ?

On 12/22/2012 10:02 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:50 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/22/2012 5:10 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 12/22/2012 1:21 PM, Jason