Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Jan 2011, at 06:29, Kim Jones wrote: On 03/01/2011, at 11:39 AM, David Nyman wrote: The whole issue of "where will I find myself" after duplication is in any case very curious. Deciding "who I am" and "where I am" can only be post-hoc on the basis of present experience in the context

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Jan 2011, at 17:58, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: on 02.01.2011 17:29 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 02 Jan 2011, at 13:09, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... Remember that with comp, we can never know that we are awake. But we can always know that we are dreaming or sharing a dream. The expe

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Jan 2011, at 18:01, Brian Tenneson wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Jan 2011, at 11:31, silky wrote: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Brian Tenneson wrote: In the case of a TOE, the model IS reality. Okay, I won't reply further, this has become irrelevant noise. I suspect the

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Jan 2011, at 19:38, Brian Tenneson wrote: Also, the expression "superstring are made of numbers" is unclear. If computationalism is correct the expression "made of" has no sense. Things are not made of something, they are dreamed by (infinities) of computation. The physical worl

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread David Nyman
On 3 January 2011 09:09, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Indeed. Even without the movie graph, but with any of Tegmark multiverse > levels, that 1-indeterminacy comes to play. With the movie graph, our > relative proportion depends on all computational histories, and this makes > ourself multiplied by inf

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Jan 2011, at 12:31, David Nyman wrote: On 3 January 2011 09:09, Bruno Marchal wrote: Indeed. Even without the movie graph, but with any of Tegmark multiverse levels, that 1-indeterminacy comes to play. With the movie graph, our relative proportion depends on all computational histori

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Brian Tenneson
Ah, ok.  Well, as your friend checked my proof, what I was/am working on is an effective theory. Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Jan 2011, at 18:01, Brian Tenneson wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Jan 2011, at 11:31, silky wrote: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 8:31 PM,

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2011 4:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Jan 2011, at 12:31, David Nyman wrote: On 3 January 2011 09:09, Bruno Marchal wrote: Indeed. Even without the movie graph, but with any of Tegmark multiverse levels, that 1-indeterminacy comes to play. With the movie graph, our relative propo

Re: Remarks on the form of a TOE

2011-01-03 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
on 03.01.2011 10:26 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 02 Jan 2011, at 17:58, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: on 02.01.2011 17:29 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 02 Jan 2011, at 13:09, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... Remember that with comp, we can never know that we are awake. But we can always