Re: Beware of the bitcoin

2013-12-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:42, TH Kaas wrote: It's based on just as much as any medium of exchange. It's also quite convenient to use, especially for international transfers. Right. A money is anything you trust, and which is hard to copy. Bitcoins might have an added value to the fact that we

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:27, LizR wrote: I haven't had a chance to watch it, but I do know that banks are stealing our wealth - as indeed are rich people generally, since "wealth breeds more wealth" and that more wealth has to be extracted from you and me. Money and richness is not a probl

Re: Global warming ?

2013-12-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I meant weather, not time El 14/12/2013 23:11, "Richard Ruquist" escribió: > Al: time is a chaotic phenomenon > > Rich: please elaborate > > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > >> Sure. A good thing about climate change is that if it warms, it is global >> warming. If

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2013-12-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Dec 2013, at 19:50, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at Bruno Marchal wrote: > You confuse the 3-view on the 1-views, For several years now Bruno Marchal has accused John Clark of that, but John Clark would maintain that there is not a single person on the face of the earth

Re: Beware of the bitcoin

2013-12-15 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:42, TH Kaas wrote: > > It's based on just as much as any medium of exchange. It's also quite > convenient to use, especially for international transfers. > > > Right. > > A money is anything you trust, and which is ha

Re: Beware of the bitcoin

2013-12-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I used to say that historically, the increase of individual freedom for good and for evil came with the availability of more liquid goods that were increasingly difficult to fall under the control of others, including governments: from land ownership to urban mobile assets, to money to non physica

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:27, LizR wrote: > > I haven't had a chance to watch it, but I do know that banks are stealing > our wealth - as indeed are rich people generally, since "wealth breeds more > wealth" and that more wealth has to be extr

Re: Beware of the bitcoin

2013-12-15 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > I used to say that historically, the increase of individual freedom for > good and for evil came with the availability of more liquid goods that > were increasingly difficult to fall under the control of others, including > governments:

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2013-12-15 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> you know in Helsinki that you will survive and feel to be in only one >>> city with probability one >>> >> >> >> That depends, Is "You" the Helsinki Man or the Moscow Man or the >> Washington Man or John K Clark? >> > > > They are the same

Re: Beware of the bitcoin

2013-12-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Dec 2013, at 12:49, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:42, TH Kaas wrote: It's based on just as much as any medium of exchange. It's also quite convenient to use, especially for international transfers. Right. A m

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Dec 2013, at 13:23, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:27, LizR wrote: I haven't had a chance to watch it, but I do know that banks are stealing our wealth - as indeed are rich people generally, since "wealth breed

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread LizR
On 15 December 2013 19:06, James Tauber wrote: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM, LizR wrote: > >> I haven't had a chance to watch it, but I do know that banks are stealing >> our wealth - as indeed are rich people generally, since "wealth breeds more >> wealth" and that more wealth has to be ex

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread LizR
On 16 December 2013 06:46, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Perhaps "politician" should not be a profession. We would vote for > programs and ideas, and let them implemented by a random sample of the > population through some social services, or by well sworn robots or the > net. We must find ways of ke

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2013-12-15 Thread LizR
On 16 December 2013 05:04, John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > As I said you confuse "indeterminacy" (the general vague concept) with >> the many different sort of indeterminacy: >> 1) by ignorance on initial conditions (example: the coin), that is a

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2013-12-15 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM, LizR wrote: > On 16 December 2013 05:04, John Clark wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> > As I said you confuse "indeterminacy" (the general vague concept) with >>> the many different sort of indeterminacy: >>> 1) by ignoran

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2013-12-15 Thread LizR
On 16 December 2013 11:16, Jason Resch wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM, LizR wrote: > >> On 16 December 2013 05:04, John Clark wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> > As I said you confuse "indeterminacy" (the general vague concept) with the

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread James Tauber
Yes, I agree with this email. I was objecting to your statement that wealth *has to* be extracted from you and me. On Sunday, December 15, 2013, LizR wrote: > On 15 December 2013 19:06, James Tauber > > > wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM, LizR > 'cvml', 'lizj...@gmail.com');> >> > wr

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread LizR
On 16 December 2013 11:24, James Tauber wrote: > Yes, I agree with this email. I was objecting to your statement that > wealth *has to* be extracted from you and me. > Yes, my apologies, I tend to dash off my posts in haste (and there is no facility to edt them for a while after posting on this

Re: How the banks are stealing our wealth

2013-12-15 Thread meekerdb
On 12/15/2013 4:23 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:27, LizR wrote: I haven't had a chance to watch it, but I do know that banks are stealing our wealth - as indeed are rich people

People that are dead in other worlds

2013-12-15 Thread meekerdb
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Re: People that are dead in other worlds

2013-12-15 Thread LizR
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