On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 16 December 2013 05:04, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > As I said you confuse "indeterminacy" (the general vague concept) with >>> the many different sort of indeterminacy: >>> 1) by ignorance on initial conditions (example: the coin), that is a 3p >>> indeterminacy. >>> 2) Turing form of indeterminacy (example: the halting problem), that is >>> again a 3p indeterminacy. >>> 3) quantum indeterminacy in copenhague (3p indeterminacy, if that >>> exists) >>> 4) quantum indeterminacy in Everett (1p indeterminacy, which needs the >>> quantum SWE assumption) >>> 5) computationalist 1p-indeterminacy (similar to Everett, except that >>> it does not need to assume the SWE or Everett-QM). It is the one we get >>> in step 3, and it is part of the derivation of physics from comp. >>> >> >> Only the first 3 make any sense, and even there all those peas are >> unnecessary. >> > > What doesn't make sense about number 4 (the MWI explanation of > indeterminacy) ? >
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