Re: What day is it?

On Monday, September 7, 2015, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 9/6/2015 7:20 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Brent Meeker > wrote: > >> $2, because you can just say

Re: What day is it?

On 9/6/2015 4:38 PM, Jason Resch wrote: You may not be certain, but you know what the possibilities are, and I would argue, what the probabilites are as well. What would you consider to be the minimum fair pay out X if you had to pay $1 on each of the days, and would be awarded $X if you

Re: What day is it?

You don't say whether the subject is aware of the protocol beyond being woken up on Monday. I'm assuming they are aware because if not, answers to both 2 and 4 would be Monday, prob 100%. If subject is aware of the second part of the protocol before the procedure begins, then prob 50% for both

Re: What day is it?

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > On Monday, September 7, 2015, Jason Resch wrote: > >> You will undergo the following experiment: >> >> 1. During the weekend you will be put to sleep with a drug and not be >> woken up

Re: What day is it?

On 9/6/2015 4:59 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 9/6/2015 4:38 PM, Jason Resch wrote: You may not be certain, but you know what the possibilities are, and I would argue, what the probabilites are as well. Knowing possibilities isn't enough. Probability requires a measure. Of course you're

Re: What day is it?

You may not be certain, but you know what the possibilities are, and I would argue, what the probabilites are as well. What would you consider to be the minimum fair pay out X if you had to pay $1 on each of the days, and would be awarded $X if you guessed correctly which day it was? Jason On

Re: What day is it?

Yes, to clarify you are aware of the entire protocol before going into it. And also you are provided no external clues or hints as to which day it is. Jason On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Terren Suydam wrote: > You don't say whether the subject is aware of the

Re: What day is it?

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 9/6/2015 4:59 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 9/6/2015 4:38 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > You may not be certain, but you know what the possibilities are, and I > would argue, what the probabilites are as well. >

Re: What day is it?

On 9/6/2015 7:20 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Brent Meeker > wrote: $2, because you can just say "Monday" each time you're asked. It has nothing to do with probabilities. It's a good analogue of the

Re: What day is it?

On Monday, September 7, 2015, Jason Resch wrote: > You will undergo the following experiment: > > 1. During the weekend you will be put to sleep with a drug and not be > woken up until Monday. > 2. On monday you will be woken up and asked what day it is. *How do you >

Re: What day is it?

Q #3 is irrelevant, after Q #2. The answer is "I DUNNO" unless you detect indications for a better one. JM On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > You will undergo the following experiment: > > 1. During the weekend you will be put to sleep with a drug and not

Re: What day is it?

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > $2, because you can just say "Monday" each time you're asked. It has > nothing to do with probabilities. It's a good analogue of the MWI problem; > when everything is deterministic and everything happens there's no >

Re: What day is it?

$2, because you can just say "Monday" each time you're asked. It has nothing to do with probabilities. It's a good analogue of the MWI problem; when everything is deterministic and everything happens there's no objective measure. Brent On 9/6/2015 4:38 PM, Jason Resch wrote: You may not be

What day is it?

You will undergo the following experiment: 1. During the weekend you will be put to sleep with a drug and not be woken up until Monday. 2. On monday you will be woken up and asked what day it is. *How do you answer?* 3. You are then given a drug to put you to sleep again and also given a drug

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

On 04 Sep 2015, at 20:26, meekerdb wrote: On 9/4/2015 7:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Sep 2015, at 20:26, meekerdb wrote: On 9/3/2015 8:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Sep 2015, at 22:48, meekerdb wrote: On 9/2/2015 8:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So now you agree with me that

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

On 06 Sep 2015, at 02:52, Pierz wrote: On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 1:35:50 AM UTC+10, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Sep 2015, at 22:48, meekerdb wrote: On 9/2/2015 8:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So now you agree with me that there are different kinds and degrees of consciousness;

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

On 04 Sep 2015, at 19:53, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​​>> ​If arithmetic is more fundamental than physics as you say then we should be able to write a program that would get the computer wet, and yet we can't and your