On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 08:08:26AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> Thanks. Causality has enormous importance, especially
> if you can differentiate it from correspondence.
>
> I sometimes think that the rise of the stock market is
> causally related to the price of gold.
Hi Russell Standish
Thanks. Causality has enormous importance, especially
if you can differentiate it from correspondence.
I sometimes think that the rise of the stock market is
causally related to the price of gold. Or the value of the dollar.
Historical inflation of the value of the dollar
en
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Time: 2012-11-07, 19:15:17
Subject: Re: Detecting Causality in Complex Ecosystems
On 11/7/2012 11:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Stephen P. King
>
> The machine or program that made
On 11/7/2012 11:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The machine or program that made the calculation
doesn't have to be real, it's purely an a priori,
a given.
Hi Roger,
Given how? How can a computation occur without access to something
real? Can we get knowledge for free?
assumption, and looking
> out on the universe, I see no disharmony-- it
> all works just fine.
>
>
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
> 11/7/2012
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>
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Time: 2012-11-07, 10:35:45
Subject: Re: Detecting Causality in Complex Ecosystems
On 11/7/2012 9:24 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
I don't know (nor do I suspect that Leibniz knew)
how one could calculate such a univers
On 11/7/2012 9:24 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
I don't know (nor do I suspect that Leibniz knew)
how one could calculate such a universe in
perfect harmony in advance, but there's no need
for that. It is simply an assumption, and looking
out on the universe, I see no disharmony-- it
all works just fi
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From: Russell Standish
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Time: 2012-11-06, 15:34:30
Subject: Re: Re: Detecting Causality in Complex Ecosystems
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:54:00AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> According to Leibniz's idealistic metaphy
On 06 Nov 2012, at 21:34, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:54:00AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Russell Standish
According to Leibniz's idealistic metaphysics, nothing is causal,
things just appear to happen by cause. Their motions instead
occur according to a pre-establis
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 03:46:32PM -0500, John Mikes wrote:
> < 'life' is only partial and an artificial way to produce it may NOT lead to
> the real thing (no matter how close we may get to our in-model
> descriptions).>>
This doesn't follow at all. ALife is more about "growing" software
than wri
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:54:00AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> According to Leibniz's idealistic metaphysics, nothing is causal,
> things just appear to happen by cause. Their motions instead
> occur according to a pre-established (a priori) harmony.
>
>
This is not
ially near the end." -Woody Allen
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From: Russell Standish
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Time: 2012-11-06, 01:01:59
Subject: Re: Detecting Causality in Complex Ecosystems
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 04:45:55PM -0500, John Mikes wrote:
> Dear
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 04:45:55PM -0500, John Mikes wrote:
> Dear Russell,
>
> I have my doubts about "causality" as a *complete* term: our 'systems', cf:
> ecosystem etc. include the up-to-date inventory of knowables as in our
> existing "MODEL" of the world - which grows over the millennia
> st
Dear Russell,
I have my doubts about "causality" as a *complete* term: our 'systems', cf:
ecosystem etc. include the up-to-date inventory of knowables as in our
existing "MODEL" of the world - which grows over the millennia
stepwise. (The 'cause' of the lightning is no more the "ire" of Zeus).
Wh
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