I was reacting to the last sentence "Their motions instead occur according to a pre-established (a priori) harmony."
Not knowing specifically what you mean by "harmony", I assumed it meant that the universe was being orchestrated by a supreme "conductor". Whilst this view might be tenable in a classical Newtonian universe, it it not in a quantum one. And with deference to Bruno, not in a COMP one either - I think we were simply talking past each other. But then, maybe you mean something different by "harmony" - physical law perhaps? These are usually in the form of symmetry constraints. If that is what you meant, then I can see why you say it is acausal. On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 09:24:32AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > > Both Leibniz and quantum physics are acausal, > meaning, at least in Leibniz's world, that things > are what they are, they happen as they happen, > whether this be deterministic or probabilistic, > or even eschatollogically caused. > > The only constraint Leibniz placed on such actions > is that they be "harmonious", meaning to me, at least > that whatever happens is harmonious with its > environment. Otherwise, it could not happen. > > I don't know (nor do I suspect that Leibniz knew) > how one could calculate such a universe in > perfect harmony in advance, but there's no need > for that. It is simply an assumption, and looking > out on the universe, I see no disharmony-- it > all works just fine. > > > Roger Clough, [email protected] > 11/7/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Russell Standish > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-11-06, 15:34:30 > Subject: Re: Re: Detecting Causality in Complex Ecosystems > > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:54:00AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > > Hi Russell Standish > > > > According to Leibniz's idealistic metaphysics, nothing is causal, > > things just appear to happen by cause. Their motions instead > > occur according to a pre-established (a priori) harmony. > > > > > > This is not compatible with quantum physics, so I don't think so. > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
