Re: Thorium Nuclear Clocks

2023-06-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sorry, I obsess. If I'd have my druthers, I'd druther have the lads at RIKEN in Japan create a fail-safe Thorium 232/U233 reactor to power civilization for the next 10 millennia, then a nice, atomic clock. Moreover, some years ago, the Canadians left their original Candu reactor (Th232-->U233) i

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-22 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:40 PM, meekerdb wrote: > > A thorium, liquid salt reactor does make Pu239, and it gets a lot of > it's energy from Pu239 fission. The difference is that it essentially > "burns" the plutonium as fast at it's made. > >From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuc

RE: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-22 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
very sound technical reasons. There is a wide variety of reasons, and they cannot all be lumped under the rubric of irrational opposition as you seem to imply. -Original Message- From: meekerdb To: everything-list Sent: Tue, May 20, 2014 1:24 am Subject: Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
: Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't On 5/19/2014 9:30 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Atthe risk of re-starting the Thorium wars <grin> thisis a current article on the wh

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-21 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:28 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > What about the waste tails he alludes to. > A Thorium reactor only produces about 1% as much waste as a conventional reactor simply because Thorium has a atomic number of only 90

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-21 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:52 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:30 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > At the risk of re-starting the Thorium wars this is a current >> article on the why NOTS of Thorium. It addresses the

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-21 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:30 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > At the risk of re-starting the Thorium wars this is a current > article on the why NOTS of Thorium. It addresses them point by point. > > > http://thebulletin.org/thorium-won

RE: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-21 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:13 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't On 5/20/2014 11:45 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 20

RE: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-21 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Quentin Anciaux Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:45 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't 2014-05-20 18:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb : On

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
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Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-20 Thread meekerdb
On 5/20/2014 11:45 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-20 18:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>: On 5/19/2014 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: These are valid criticisms that are very much not administrative nature but cut right to the core [pun intended] of a wo

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-20 Thread John Mikes
Chris, Brent and other Th-savants: (I am not one) Whatever "radiates" is suspect to me. Humans' world is vulnerable. Bombs? We must WANT peace very much (si vis pacem, para bellum). Suppose: someone discovers a 'good'way to make a Th-bomb (a different route from the old one) - on historical example

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-20 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-05-20 18:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb : > On 5/19/2014 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > These are valid criticisms that are very much not administrative nature > but cut right to the core [pun intended] of a world in which a multitude of > thorium U233 breeder reactors proliferate widely. There

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-20 Thread meekerdb
On 5/19/2014 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: These are valid criticisms that are very much not administrative nature but cut right to the core [pun intended] of a world in which a multitude of thorium U233 breeder reactors proliferate widely. There is a risk that this unintentionally leads to a

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-20 Thread Quentin Anciaux
14 11:49 PM > > *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't > > > > > > > > 2014-05-20 8:28 GMT+02:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com>: > >

RE: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-20 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Quentin Anciaux Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:49 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't 2014-05-20 8:28 GMT+02:00 'Chris d

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-19 Thread Quentin Anciaux
ff the bat. > > How do you think the issues raised can be addressed? Or if you feel these > are not valid issues then could you explain your reasoning for feeling this > way. > > Chris > > > > *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everything-list@google

RE: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Subject: Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't On 5/19/2014 9:30 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: At the risk of re-starting the Thorium wars this is a current article on the why NOTS of Thorium. It addresses them point by point. http://thebulletin.org/thor

Re: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-19 Thread meekerdb
On 5/19/2014 9:30 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: At the risk of re-starting the Thorium wars this is a current article on the why NOTS of Thorium. It addresses them point by point. http://thebulletin.org/thorium-wonder-fuel-wasnt7156 A mishmash of criticism most of whi

RE: Thorium: the wonder fuel that wasn't

2014-05-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
At the risk of re-starting the Thorium wars this is a current article on the why NOTS of Thorium. It addresses them point by point. http://thebulletin.org/thorium-wonder-fuel-wasnt7156 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To

Re: Re: Thorium!

2012-09-19 Thread Roger Clough
everything-list Time: 2012-09-18, 13:43:40 Subject: Re: Thorium! On 9/18/2012 9:44 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:59 AM, meekerdb wrote: > I think most reactors using Hastelloy plumbing (one of several nickel > alloys). The containment vessels are steel and concrete. T

Re: Thorium!

2012-09-18 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/18/2012 12:44 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:59 AM, meekerdb > wrote: > I think most reactors using Hastelloy plumbing (one of several nickel alloys). The containment vessels are steel and concrete. They differ a lot depending on

Re: Thorium!

2012-09-18 Thread meekerdb
On 9/18/2012 9:44 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:59 AM, meekerdb > wrote: > I think most reactors using Hastelloy plumbing (one of several nickel alloys). The containment vessels are steel and concrete. They differ a lot depending on

Re: Thorium!

2012-09-18 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:59 AM, meekerdb wrote: > > > I think most reactors using Hastelloy plumbing (one of several nickel > alloys). The containment vessels are steel and concrete. They differ a > lot depending on whether they are pressurized water reactors, boiling water > reactors, sodium

Re: Thorium!

2012-09-15 Thread meekerdb
On 9/15/2012 10:13 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: I like this conversation! I am interested in the materials required for the vessel and the plumbing. Some kind of ceramic coated titanium or zirconium? Alumina reinforced steel

Re: Thorium!

2012-09-15 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/16/2012 12:20 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Sep 15 meekerdb > wrote: > in the present case there is no mystery about where the CO2 comes from and whether it's a natural cycle - it's us. Probably, but I'm not terribly concerned about it, the increase in