On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Jesse Mazer wrote:
Norman Samish wrote:
If the universe started contracting, its entropy would get smaller,
which nature doesn't allow in large-scale systems. This seems to me an
argument in support of perpetual expansion.
From what I've read, if the universe began
Norman Samish wrote:
If the universe started contracting, its entropy would get smaller,
which nature doesn't allow in large-scale systems. This seems to me an
argument in support of perpetual expansion.
From what I've read, if the universe began contracting this would not
necessarily ca
an?
Why? How can 10^119 particles at an extremely hot temperature originate
from nothing?
So many questions - so little time.
Norman
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Norman Samish wrote:
This scenario that you are discussing reminds me of this interview with
Julian Barb
Hi Saibal,
Hi Bruno,
Patric has already explained Barbour's position (I didn't read his
book).
Separating space from time is not very natural...
I agree. If only because of special relativity. But the very notion of
space is quite complex. It is a reason why I find "loop gravity" more
co
Le 01-juin-05, à 18:49, Patrick Leahy a écrit :
I read his book a year or so ago, so may be a bit hazy, but:
Pour Bruno: he definitely does not want to talk about space-time
capsules. Partly this is motivated by his metaphysical ideas about
time, partly by the technicalities of the 3+1 (i.e
phenomena.
Saibal
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Subject: Re: objections to QTI
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:24:56 +0200
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> Le 01-juin-05, à 15:00, Saibal Mitra a écrit :
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> > Hi Norman,
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> > I entirely
Norman Samish
This scenario that you are discussing reminds me
of this interview with Julian Barbour where
he proposes that "time" is an illusion.
This reminds me of a good paper by Carlo Rovelli
(about quantum gravity, GR, space-time, etc.)
http://ws5.com/copy/time2.pdf in which he
suggests
Hi All:
In my view life is a component of the fastest path to heat death
(equilibrium) in universes that have suitable thermodynamics. Thus there
would be a built in "pressure" for such universes to contain life. Further
I like Stephen Gould's idea that complex life arises because evolution
Hi All:
In my view life is a component of the fastest path to heat death
(equilibrium) in universes that have suitable thermodynamics. Thus there
would be a built in "pressure" for such universes to contain life. Further
I like Stephen Gould's idea that complex life arises because evolution
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Hi Hal,
Remember that the chain of events that must lead you to be 1000 years
old must be perfectly logical and consistent. A good science fi
I read his book a year or so ago, so may be a bit hazy, but:
Pour Bruno: he definitely does not want to talk about space-time capsules.
Partly this is motivated by his metaphysical ideas about time, partly by
the technicalities of the 3+1 (i.e. space+time, not persons!) approach to
GR and the
Le 01-juin-05, à 15:00, Saibal Mitra a écrit :
Hi Norman,
I entirely agree with Julian Barbour. A fundamental notion of time would act as a pointer indicating what is real (things that are happening now) and what was real and what will be real. Most of us here on the everything list believe tha
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Hi Saibal and Stathis,
This scenario that you are
discussing reminds
Hal,
It is possible that "miracles" will be as uncommon and surprising in your
QTI-guaranteed future as they seem to be today. If you live to 1000,
unlikely as it sounds at present, shouldn't you expect it to happen in the
*least* unlikely way? This may involve advances in medicine initially,
Hi Brent,
There's no doubt that my imagination is not up to the task of coming up
with reasonable explanations of all that I see. I could never imagine
relativity, quantum mechanics, black holes, singularities, the Big Bang,
infinite space, the multiverse, and "Günter Wächtershäuser's recip
Norman Samish wrote:
[Responding to Russell Standish]
This article, as you point out, asserts "that the rapidity of biogenesis on
Earth suggests that life is common in the Universe." This assertion is
shown to be probably correct with some reasonable assumptions. One of the
assumptions is tha
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>Dear Prof. Standish,
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>Thanks for the quibbles, which sound reasonable. However,
Hi Hal,
Remember that the chain of events that must lead you to be 1000 years
old must be perfectly logical and consistent. A good science fiction
writer would have no problem weaving a plot that could bring you to such
a situation. One could evoke living in a simulator, or the appearance of
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 11:46:08PM -0700, Norman Samish wrote:
> Dear Prof. Standish,
>
> Thanks for the quibbles, which sound reasonable. However, I'm going to
> stand my ground.
>
> You gave this reference about life's origins. (I found it at
> http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0209/02
Dear Prof. Standish,
Thanks for the quibbles, which sound reasonable. However, I'm going to
stand my ground.
You gave this reference about life's origins. (I found it at
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0209/0209385.pdf)
This article, as you point out, asserts "that the rapidity of bio
I should have said, "you could *not* just take any files from any folder and
cobble together an individual history..." For example, the version of me
that got this sentence right the first time has split off and spawned a
whole new set of files/OM's, none of which can be incorporated into the
h
Saibal Mitra wrote:
I think that your example below was helpful to clarify the disagreement.
You say that randomly sampling from all the files is not 'how real life
works'. However, if you did randomly sample from all the files the result
would not be different from the selective time ordered s
Minor quibbles, which don't actually detract from your argument:
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 01:19:28PM -0700, Norman Samish wrote:
> 1) How did life originate if not through a miraculous circumstance? In
> other branches of the multiverse, perhaps most of them, there is no life.
There is evidence
7;d like to hear why.
http://www.science-spirit.org/article_detail.php?article_id=183
Norman Samish
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Norman Samish
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Let me pose the puzzle like this, which is a form we have discussed
before:
Suppose you found yourself extremel
Let me pose the puzzle like this, which is a form we have discussed
before:
Suppose you found yourself extremely old, due to a near-miraculous set
of circumstances that had kept you alive. Time after time when you were
about to die of old age or some other cause, something happened and you
were a
Hi Saibal and Stathis,
This scenario that you are discussing
reminds me of this interview with Julian Barbour where he proposes that "time"
is an illusion. If you agree or disagree with Barbour, I'd like to
hear why.
http://www.science-spirit.org/article_detail.php?article_id=183
Norma
Hi Stathis,
I think that your example below was helpful to clarify the disagreement.
You say that randomly sampling from all the files is not 'how real life
works'. However, if you did randomly sample from all the files the result
would not be different from the selective time ordered sampling yo
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