Re: Gödel and the unreality of time

2018-05-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 15 May 2018, at 21:52, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 10:52:51 AM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote: > https://edwardfeser.blogspot.fr/2018/05/godel-and-unreality-of-time.html >

Re: Gödel and the unreality of time

2018-05-15 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 10:52:51 AM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote: > > https://edwardfeser.blogspot.fr/2018/05/godel-and-unreality-of-time.html > The Gödel universe is a net rotating universe. The whole spacetime is rotating, which means the Kerr effect dominates over standard gravitation.

Gödel and the unreality of time

2018-05-14 Thread Telmo Menezes
https://edwardfeser.blogspot.fr/2018/05/godel-and-unreality-of-time.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-20 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:30 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/31/2012 10:48 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The problem is to explain also why the entropy of the early universe was so low. If you just accept that this is the case and also don't bother about the very distant

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Aug 2012, at 01:43, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Evgnii,. The question is that the mind is not the brain in the same way that Microsoft Word running in a computer ins not the computer. The intuitive notion of location of our self, our mind behind de eyes and thus inside the skull is not

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Alberto, I have one more question. On 31.07.2012 11:08 Alberto G. Corona said the following: Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona said the following: ... Let us say that there is some conglomerate of atoms. When it

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Evgenn I have not much time this week. I just added a paragraph below. I will ask this with more detail later: 2012/8/2 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru Alberto, I have one more question. On 31.07.2012 11:08 Alberto G. Corona said the following: Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Evgnii,. The question is that the mind is not the brain in the same way that Microsoft Word running in a computer ins not the computer. The intuitive notion of location of our self, our mind behind de eyes and thus inside the skull is not a mere derivation of the fact that the brain is located

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread meekerdb
On 8/2/2012 4:43 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: We think thar our self is in the head because in this way we control better ourselves and we can react to inmediate dangers better.( That is why fighter pilots, that need heavy feedback and agile movements fly with their machines, while the spy and

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona said the following: What do you mean by the world of the mind is different form the phisico-mathematical world? Is this as by Descartes res cogitans vs. res extensa? As you said, it

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote: On 7/30/2012 2:19 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The Boltzman brains , according with what i have read, are completely different beasts. Boltzman pressuposes, that , since no random arrangement of matter is statistically impossible, and Boltzman

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread David Nyman
On 31 July 2012 10:08, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: Materialism is a monism but has a hidden dualism that is converted back into monism by the process of avoiding delicate questions, for example the nature of perceptions and the nature of the suppossedly external phenomenons

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread smitra
Citeren Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote: On 7/30/2012 2:19 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The Boltzman brains , according with what i have read, are completely different beasts. Boltzman pressuposes, that , since no random arrangement of matter is

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Alberto, On 31 Jul 2012, at 11:08, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona said the following: What do you mean by the world of the mind is different form the phisico-mathematical world? Is this

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Thnks Bruno, Specially your agreement on dualism make me feel more confident. 2012/7/31 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be Hi Alberto, On 31 Jul 2012, at 11:08, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The problem is to explain also why the entropy of the early universe was so low. If you just accept that this is the case and also don't bother about the very distant future, there is no problem. But if you assume that time goes on from the infinite distant past and/or to the infinite distant

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread meekerdb
On 7/31/2012 8:36 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: Citeren Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote: On 7/30/2012 2:19 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The Boltzman brains , according with what i have read, are completely different beasts. Boltzman pressuposes,

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread meekerdb
On 7/31/2012 10:48 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The problem is to explain also why the entropy of the early universe was so low. If you just accept that this is the case and also don't bother about the very distant future, there is no problem. But if you assume that time goes on from the

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Alberto, Thank you for your answers. I will make one comment now. I plan to read Schneider on molecular machines (thanks for the link) and then I may make more comments. On 31.07.2012 11:08 Alberto G. Corona said the following: Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30 Evgenii

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-31 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2012/7/31 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net On 7/31/2012 10:48 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The problem is to explain also why the entropy of the early universe was so low. If you just accept that this is the case and also don't bother about the very distant future, there is no problem. But if

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-30 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Evgenii : I thank you for your questions, since It helps me to re-examine and clarify my position. 2012/7/29 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru On 29.07.2012 11:28 Alberto G. Corona said the following: These psycho-philosophical arguments like the one of John Ellis are what in evolutionary

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-30 Thread meekerdb
On 7/30/2012 2:19 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The Boltzman brains , according with what i have read, are completely different beasts. Boltzman pressuposes, that , since no random arrangement of matter is statistically impossible, and Boltzman demonstrated it in certain conditions (ergodic

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-30 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona said the following: Evgenii : I thank you for your questions, since It helps me to re-examine and clarify my position. 2012/7/29 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 29.07.2012 11:28 Alberto G. Corona said the following: These psycho-philosophical arguments

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-29 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
actually proved was not the unreality of time; for Reality is what which is incontrovertible to all intercommunicating observers. What McTaggart proved was the non-existance of an observational stance that might allow all moments of time to be apprehended simultaneously. His work can be seen

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-29 Thread Stephen P. King
cast aspersions upon McTaggart, but what he actually proved was not the unreality of time; for Reality is what which is incontrovertible to all intercommunicating observers. What McTaggart proved was the non-existance of an observational stance that might allow all moments of time to be apprehended

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-29 Thread Alberto G. Corona
PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... Now I have found the original paper by McTaggart in Internet: http://www.ditext.com/mctaggart/time.html ... Dear Evgenii, Never would I cast aspersions upon McTaggart, but what he actually proved was not the unreality of time; for Reality is what which

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-29 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 29.07.2012 11:28 Alberto G. Corona said the following: These psycho-philosophical arguments like the one of John Ellis are what in evolutionary Psychology is called an explanation based on proximate causes. I guess that science is based on observation and hence it might be good to define

The Unreality of Time

2012-07-28 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
John Ellis McTaggart The Unreality of Time Mind: A Quarterly Review of Psychology and Philosophy 17 (1908): 456-473 I have learned about the McTaggart's A- and B-series from John Yates. http://www.ifsgoa.com/ Now I have found the original paper by McTaggart in Internet: http://www.ditext.com

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-07-28 Thread Stephen P. King
On 7/28/2012 4:23 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: John Ellis McTaggart The Unreality of Time Mind: A Quarterly Review of Psychology and Philosophy 17 (1908): 456-473 I have learned about the McTaggart's A- and B-series from John Yates. http://www.ifsgoa.com/ Now I have found the original paper