Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compose Html Templates

2020-03-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 05:40 +0100, Axel Huizinga wrote:
> how can I start do develop a template editor or is anyone already
> working on one?
> For now I tried to reuse templates created with thunderbird and I can
> save them well in the templates folder but on use embedded images are
> lost.

There is some template support in Evolution:
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-composer-message-templates

If something with embedded images does not work in some templates
folder in some Evolution version, then maybe provide more info.
Or why some "Template Editor" is needed for something somewhere.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] A probelm with evolution software 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1

2019-12-04 Thread Andre Klapper
[This would be better suited on evolution-list@ if you don't plan to
work on code.]

On Wed, 2019-12-04 at 15:16 +0100, Régis Ramel wrote:
> Since I updated my computer from ubuntu 16.04 to ubuntu 18.04 and so
> updated the software evolution, I 've seen this problem :
>
> Appointments displayed on the monthly view of the calendar doesn't
> mention the appointments of the current day. So when you look at
> eleven in the morning for example, you don't see the appointments in
> the afternoon of the current day. You see only appointments beginning
> the day after.
> It's a regression which is really uncomfortable.

Cannot reproduce the problem in 3.34.2.

Feel free to report a bug in the issue tracker of your distribution if
your distribution still supports version 3.28, and please include if
this problem is about a local or a remote calendar.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] About the anti-Spam-functionality

2019-07-24 Thread Andre Klapper
[This looks like a support question not about performing code
development yourself, so this is likely on the wrong mailing list.]

On Wed, 2019-07-24 at 08:13 +0200, Andreas Wagner wrote:
> as far as I remember, Evolution has a Spam-Filter which uploads e-mails
> to a Spam-List-Server, when marked as "Spam".

Once upon a time there was a plugin called "evolution-rspam", but I am
not aware of any such built-in functionality.

Feel free to provide references for your statement. :)

> I'm sure many people don't see, that they're uploaded and believe,
> they train their personal Spam-filter.

I still believe that I train a local spam filter.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] hang when attaching images (3.32.1-2)

2019-05-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 20:37 +0200, Lukas Pirl wrote:
> whenever I attach an image to an email, Evolution 3.32.1-2 hangs completely,
> so that it needs to be killed. Other attachments (e.g., zip archives) work
> flawlessly.
>
> Which debug information can I supply? Everything written on
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging didn't seem appropriate for
> this kind of bug.

Run evolution under "gdb" and when Evolution hangs, get a stacktrace:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/Bugzilla/GettingTraces/Details
Make sure to have debug packages installed / debug symbols compiled.

This sounds like a question better suited for evolution-list@.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Gmail TLS problem

2019-04-25 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 16:20 +0200, Sasa Ostrouska wrote:
> Error while Retrieving folder list for 'x...@gmail.com'.
> Error reading data from TLS socket: The specified session has been
> invalidated for some reason.

For the records there was a longer thread about it last month:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2019-March/msg00077.html

IMHO this is not a development related question so it should go to the
evolution-list and not to evolution-hackers.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] single-key keyboard shortcuts

2019-04-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2019-04-09 at 16:15 +0200, Lukas Pirl wrote:
> tl;dr: How to achieve keyboard shortcuts which work w/o modifiers?

That makes me wonder first why you cannot / don't want to use a
modifier?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Crash starting evolution

2019-02-16 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sat, 2019-02-16 at 11:15 +0100, Helmut Bardeli wrote:
> I use evolution with opensuse leap 15 for a long time.
> 
> After several updates evolution does not start and crash
> 
> Thread 1 "evolution" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0x7fffda33ec5d in ?? () from
> /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libdconfsettings.so
> 
> Can you give me any help ?

Please obtain a complete stacktrace, including debug symbols for all
used libraries and applications, plus provide Evolution version info:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/Bugzilla/GettingTraces/Details#obtain-a-stacktrace
 

This would be more appropriate on the Evolution mailing list, as I do
not see any question among Evolution hackers in this email thread.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Building the Latest Source of Evolution

2019-01-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Mon, 2019-01-21 at 22:32 -0500, Dr. Jason Amerson wrote:
> I am trying to build Evolution Data Server and Evolution using the method 
> outlined in the Wiki. 

Do you mean https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building ?

> I was able to successfully get through the 
> instructions for Evolution Data Server. I have stalled on the part to 
> configure the build before make && make install. I am being told that the 
> packages libebook-1.2 and libecal-1.2 are not found. 

https://packages.ubuntu.com/ allows searching for package names that
the "Ubuntu" distribution uses. I entered "libecal" on that website and
it listed "libecal1.2-dev" for development. Is that package installed?

> I have searched for 
> them and cannot find them. These are required packages. Up until now, I 
> have been able to fix my own errors but now I need help. I am using Ubuntu 
> 18.04 with the latest updates.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Request

2019-01-08 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 09:38 +0100, terraformer291166 via evolution-
hackers wrote:
> 
> Ich brauche HILFE

Please ask and include clear and sufficient information. Also note that
this mailing list is for developers' topics (not for user support).

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] privat request

2018-09-24 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Michael,

On Tue, 2018-09-25 at 01:05 +0200, Michael Ratkovic wrote:
> Sorry,ich brauche Bitte ihre Unterstützung für dieses  DELL phone.

If you do not plan to discuss specific code you're request/question
might be better suited for evolution-l...@gnome.org instead.

Please also provide Evolution version information, Linux distribution
information, clear steps to reproduce the problem, the current outcome,
and the expected outcome, what "support for this DELL phone" means, and
how this is related to the GNOME Evolution software.

Also note that this mailing list is NOT private.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Markdown support in evolution's message composer

2018-08-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2018-08-14 at 17:21 +0200, Thomas Flori wrote:
> The idea is to write in markdown. In the message compose options you
> choose "WYSIWYG" or "MarkDown" and when you write a message you just
> get a text box (above the quoted emails). When you send the message
> the message gets converted to html before it gets send.

Evolution uses Webkit (and WebkitGTK) for its composer. 
Does Webkit support converting markdown input into HTML?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Add support for pretty Easy privacy (p≡p)

2018-07-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Hej hej,

On Mon, 2018-07-30 at 10:56 +0200, Anna Marei wrote:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Easy_privacy
> https://www.pep.security/docs/
> 
> Can you please implement this?

Feel free to file a feature request (and adding the label "Feature") at
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Support alternative concepts to organise mail communication?

2018-01-22 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2018-01-22 at 09:27 +0100, Anna Marei wrote:
> I couldn't find anything useful about
> the "unified inbox" thingy in Evolution's help :(

See https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/unstable/mail-search-folders.html

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Support alternative concepts to organise mail communication?

2018-01-19 Thread Andre Klapper
[Please don't top-post and please remove unneeded full quotes. Thanks!]

On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 16:22 +0100, Anna Marei wrote:
> Hi Milan, i am not familiar with the way how GNOME develop it's apps.
> I thought that hackers seem to be the one who do the programming
> stuff and take care of the code. And users are user who report bugs
> or propose new Evolution features. So could you please explain why
> sending it to the evolution-list would be more productive?

Some of the features you seem to be interested in might already exist
in one way or another. 'How to achieve X?' questions are support
requests and it is best to discuss them first with other users and
developers on the users mailing list.

If you have questions about specific parts of the source code base and
hack on code, evolution-hackers@ is a possible venue.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Support alternative concepts to organise mail communication?

2018-01-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 11:33 +0100, Anna Marei wrote:
> I guess (e-mail) communication has changed over the last decades.
> So why not overhaul Evoultions way of dealing with it?

Your fork and complete rewrite is welcome. 
Just do it. :)

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Mailing list moderators wanted

2015-04-27 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sun, 2015-04-26 at 23:31 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 I am the only person listed as moderator of evolution-list@ and
 evolution-hackers@. And that's not good if I go on offline holidays.
 
 It's important to have more than one moderator per mailing list, so I'm
 looking for someone to help with moderation. It's pretty low maintenance
 (declining spam  accepting postings of folks who are not subscribed).

Thanks for your answers.

As a random criterion I looked at the activity of the last four years.
And the sheer number of postings by Patrick O'Callaghan and Adam Tauno
Williams is highly impressive, so they are now list moderators. :)

But thank you to *everybody* who volunteered! 
I really appreciate the help!

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[Evolution-hackers] Mailing list moderators wanted

2015-04-26 Thread Andre Klapper
Hey,

I am the only person listed as moderator of evolution-list@ and
evolution-hackers@. And that's not good if I go on offline holidays.

It's important to have more than one moderator per mailing list, so I'm
looking for someone to help with moderation. It's pretty low maintenance
(declining spam  accepting postings of folks who are not subscribed).

If you've seen a Mailman instance before (though not a hard requirement)
and are interested in helping out, please drop a short reply (and
explicitly CC me on it just to be on the safe side).

Thanks,
andre

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Sieve application for filtering mail [was: Re: Evolution custom email message]

2014-03-26 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 21:08 +0530, Vanya Jauhal wrote:
 I'm sorry sir. It won't happen again.

There is no need to apologize. We all learn. :)

 I wanted to know what exactly the
 evolution team expects the application to perform

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216959#c0 implies that RFC
3028 should be implemented. Somehow. :)

Have you looked at existing implementations, for example, maybe
Thunderbird (client-side) or existing mail servers? Have you looked at
Evolution/evolution-data-server's mail filtering implementation and also
its current UI? That's stuff where I'd start.

  and what I can contribute
 towards it as a mail filter can work on many different levels and the
 criterion of classification may also differ.

Please provide examples of different levels and criterion of
classification to make sure we talk about the same things.

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[Evolution-hackers] FYI: Some changes in Evolution default assignees/QA in GNOME Bugzilla

2012-06-27 Thread Andre Klapper
= IN SHORT: WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO? =

Nothing and you can ignore this email, if you do not follow groupwise
bug reports in the product evolution-groupwise.

= PROBLEM =
Andrea Veri (sysadmin) wrote that there are problems sending mails to
the ximian domain. 130.57.5.70 is down, no idea if forever or just
temporarily. 
This creates some avoidable server load. The big majority is triggered
by @ximian.com default assignees/QA contacts for bug reports in
Evolution, Evolution-Data-Server, GtkHtml, GAL, Evolution Exchange,
evolution-mapi, evolution-ews, and evolution-groupwise.

= SOLUTION =

I have changed affected @ximian.com accounts in GNOME Bugzilla to use
@gnome.bugs instead and marked them as virtual accounts (ismailinglist
group membership with Bugmail disabled flag, but that means they can
still be followed by using the User Watching function).

= LONG VERSION: WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO? =

All this should not have any influence if you follow one of these
accounts via User Watching under
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email - it all gets
automatically updated, with one exception: I moved all open tickets
under the product evolution-groupwise from evolution-mail-maintainers@
as default QA and maintainer to (already existing)
evolution-groupwise-maintainers@. If you explicitly want to still follow
evolution-groupwise tickets, you must add
evolution-groupwise-maintain...@gnome.bugs under User Watching at the
bottom of https://bugzilla.gnome.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email !

= LONG VERSION: BORING DETAILS (skip it!) =

I transfered the following non-personalized accounts:

* connector-maintai...@ximian.com- 
connector-maintainers@gnome-bugs
* connector...@ximian.com- connector...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-addressbook-maintain...@ximian.com   - 
evolution-addressbook-maintain...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-calendar-maintain...@ximian.com  - 
evolution-calendar-maintain...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-executive-summary-maintain...@ximian.com - 
evolution-summary-maintain...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-groupwise-maintain...@ximian.com - 
evolution-groupwise-maintain...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-mail-maintain...@ximian.com  - 
evolution-mail-maintain...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-plugin-maintain...@ximian.com- 
evolution-plugin-maintain...@gnome.bugs
* evolution...@ximian.com- evolution...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-shell-maintain...@ximian.com - 
evolution-shell-maintain...@gnome.bugs
* evolution-tri...@ximian.com- 
evolution-tri...@gnome.bugs
* product-design-b...@ximian.com - 
evolution-product-design-b...@gnome.bugs

The account tri...@ximian.com was merged into existing 
evolution-tri...@gnome.bugs.
The account gtkhtml-maintain...@ximian.com was merged into existing 
gtkhtml-maintain...@gnome.bugs.


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Request: New function in evolution-data-server 3.4.3

2012-05-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 13:37 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
 I'd like to add this to the 3.4.3 release of EDS. Since it's just a new
 function, there should be no compatibility issues... but I believe I
 need permission from the release team...

GNOME promises API/ABI stability for its stable versions.

Quoting Dave from IRC: dwmw2 it's not an API that's deliberately made
available for the public to use, although yes it's public.

However the performance improvement clearly outweighs this very local
API addition, so another +1.

I wonder if this should come with an SONAME bump and a notification to
distributor-list@ just to be on the safe side (to avoid a distro
packagers mob with forks and torches in front of your house), but if I'm
just paranoid and don't understand the use of soname well enough (/me
not being a developer), please ignore me. :)

andre

PS: The coding style of the commit looks slightly inconsistent
[function_name(param) vs function_name (param)] but that's not my
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org

2009-09-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Dear Nirav,

my two questions still stand.
Can you please answer them?

Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2009, 12:54 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: 
 So have you tried creating a new account on go-evolution.org? 
 If so, please share the steps. Because I fail. Removing the very basic
 features of a wiki (participation) is not what I'd call a solution.

Am Donnerstag, den 23.07.2009, 12:22 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:
 Am Donnerstag, den 23.07.2009, 00:54 -0600 schrieb Nirav Kumar:
 Migrating Wiki to live.gnome.org/evolution may be difficult with the
 high data content that evolution wiki holds.

 Please provide exact numbers.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org

2009-08-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Nirav,

any news here?

http://www.go-evolution.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchangesdays=7

andre

Am Donnerstag, den 23.07.2009, 19:20 -0600 schrieb Nirav Kumar:
 On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 14:48 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 12:17 -0600, Nirav Kumar wrote:
   As such any takers for revamping wiki on a continuous basis?
  
  Define revamping.
 To revise(make changes) or reconstruct 
  
  
   Probably i can give a try for a resource for revamping Wiki and for
   installing captcha and updating drupple for go-evolution.org.
  
  Do you mean Drupal?  That would answer my earlier question.
 Yes
  live.gnome.org uses MoinMoin, go-evolution.org uses Drupal?
 Mostly Drupal gets used.I am catching up with IST on details.Will
 confirm.
  
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org

2009-07-15 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes:
 I don't know how feasible this is, but what do you guys think about
 eventually migrating the wiki to live.gnome.org/evolution.

I am all for it.

 I have no idea who has admin rights to the wiki

According to Parag Srini has sysop rights.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] GnomeDruid migration

2009-01-10 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2007, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Gilles
Dartiguelongue:
 I looked at the sources to get a feel of how easy it would be to migrate
 from GnomeDruid to GtkAssistant.

I've now filed http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567260 about
porting from GnomeDruid to GtkAssistent.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution bugzilla summary broken

2008-11-24 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 24.11.2008, 18:51 + schrieb Matt Davey:
 I have been unable to bring up the Evolution summary page in bugzilla
 for a while now:
 
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=Evolution

We've got a 60 seconds time out for such queries to reduce Bugzilla
server load. For me it often takes a 2nd or 3rd try, but works after
that.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Hide main window plugin

2008-10-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 28.10.2008, 12:04 +0100 schrieb Jeroen Wouters:
 to have the status icon permanently in the system tray

GNOME does not have a system tray. It is a notification area. ;-)

You know about existing 3rd party solutions like Alltray?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Instant Messaging information on Evolution Contacts

2008-09-23 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 19.09.2008, 17:48 -0300 schrieb Fabio Rafael da Rosa:
 I'm implementing synchronization with google contacts for instant
 messaging information on conduit. While implementing, i noticed that
 evolution does not have entries for some IM's like google talk and
 skype. First I thought on implementing some kind of transalation(for
 google talk is easier, because it's jabber anyway... ), but, for things
 like skype, for example, it's a problem, so now I think it's better if a
 try to create it on evolution(create a patch for evo).
 But, I would like to hear from an evo developer what's better in this
 case. 

I'm not a developer, but with regard to any *potential* API changes or
code additions, feel free to also consider improving integration of
Evolution with the telepathy/empathy framework that we now have in GNOME
2.24.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 23:48 -0400 schrieb Martin Owens:
 For consideration I present Cheese, a very nice tool for using
 web-cams to take photos with weird disfiguring effects. The problem as
 I see it is that Cheese stores each of the photos in it's ~/.cheese
 directory which makes them hidden from the user. Instead I propose
 that Cheese use a standard directory (possibly configurable) such as
 ~/Photographs/Cheese or ~/Documents/Cheese which is accessible to user
 browsing.

Just FYI, this has been fixed three months ago:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509475

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...

2008-08-28 Thread Andre Klapper
After getting explicitly asked for this:
Permission granted for any pieces of code I've produced.

andre klapper

Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 04:21 -0600 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan:
 We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like :
 
   * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the 
 future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution 
 and we wanted to drop it.
   * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with 
 Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the 
 new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007.
  
 So here is the plan :
 
   * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to 
 contribute to Evolution
   * Move Evolution licensing to  LGPL v2 and LGPL v3 to let us re-use 
 the code more easily around the platform.  This also moves us closer to 
 Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. 
 
 We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in 
 Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all 
 of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code 
 ownership situation.
 
 It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with 
 permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of 
 Evolution code  object.
 
 We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution 
 a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution 
 to great heights.
 
 Thanks for your contributions and support.
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] bug fixing in stable 2.22.x branch

2008-08-19 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,
I'm not speaking on behalf of Evo maintainers or distributors, just my
personal opinion.

Am Dienstag, den 19.08.2008, 18:41 +0200 schrieb Patrick Ohly:
 I have a question primarily to the maintainers of the various Linux
 distributions

...that would be the distributor-list (it's not really well-known).
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/distributor-list

  which include Evolution 2.22.x (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, Debian
 Lenny), but also to the Evolution hackers: the latest stable release,
 2.22.3.1, still contains bugs.

So do the latest released $MODULE tarballs for GNOME 2.20 or GNOME
2.14...

  There are different ways to deal with
 this:
  1. Evolution upstream continues to apply bug fixes to the 2.22.x as
 long as important distributions use that.

...and to 2.20 or 2.14 (remember Debian?).
Next problem: What is important?
For example, Ubuntu's 8.04 (GNOME 2.22) provides 3 years support for
desktop versions and 5 years for server versions. That means 2013, if
we'd continue with our versioning system (we won't), this would mean
working on GNOME 2.41 while still maintaining 2.22.

IMO it's up to the distros to decide on their business models. Don't
outsource the costs of additional support to upstream, please. :-)

  2. Maintainers of packages apply patches locally, without or with
 help by Evolution upstream. Upstream could help with bug
 tracking.
 
 What's the current practice? It seems that upstream has already stopped
 updating the 2.22 branch and bug fixes are only applied to trunk [1].

GNOME 2.22.3 was the last planned GNOME release. After that it doesn't
happen too often that maintainers (or distros) will ship another tarball
from SVN. Applying patches to stable branch too is often considered too
much work in SVN.
For very important GNOME issues I sometimes sent a list of bugs 
patches to the distributor-list (though I've become a bit lazy in the
last months due to work).

So from my point of view you either want to ask the evolution
maintainers for a 2.22.4 release, or ask the distributor-list to apply
the patches locally and ship package updates for their users.

I agree that the timezone bug you listed is important and should be
dealt with.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Future of eds bindings

2008-08-15 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 11:17 +0100 schrieb Ross Burton:
 On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 12:09 +0200, Muelli wrote:
   a DBUS interface to the e-d-s
  That has already been done: http://labs.o-hand.com/embedded-eds/
  
 It's actually faster than EDS-ORBit.

Do we have stats, and also tests with addressbooks with, say, 300,000
entries?

Two questions not necessarily aimed at Ross, and I remember asking this
two years ago already:
What's blocking/missing to get eds-dbus into 2.26?
Can we agree on some plan to commit this into gnome's eds (if there's
objections, then having optional support by some configure option) early
in the next release cycle?

The impression of standstill annoys me.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Filters failure / mal-sorting

2008-08-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Dan,

for future reference: Evolution-hackers mailing list is for code
discussion, you may want to post other questions to the evolution
mailing list instead:
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

I wonder whether a mailing list maintainer (CC: akhil?) could set
descriptions for these lists so they get displayed at
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo , currently it IS confusing
because both lists miss a description.

Am Freitag, den 01.08.2008, 14:52 -0500 schrieb Daniel L. Johnson:
 How does one re-constitute, re-establish, or resuscitate Evo filters?
 How does one re-establish the unread folder?
 
 I have just been upgraded by my son to Foresight Linux, with evolution
 upgraded to 2.22.3.1  This change did not correct problems that had been
 occurring in the previous version.
 
 The previous installed version was Evolution 2.4.1, installed when it
 was current, previously upgraded in August, 2005 from 1.0.0 to 2.2.2,
 with some difficulties due to database changes (I have upgraded very
 rarely d/t a need to avoid support and for system stability). As I
 recall, I had to rebuild my files/filters structure.

Basically
http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_transfer_all_my_Evolution_data_between_computers.2Fto_a_new_partition.2Fto_a_new_computer.3F
 explains what to do *in advance* before installing a new version. Probably too 
late now. :-/

 Malfunction 1: default folder deletion
 
 A few months ago, my unread mail folder (a default folder)
 mysteriously vanished during a mouse click intended for some other
 purpose. Poking around in the menu structure and surveying the help file
 didn't reveal a solution on how to resurrect it; in any case, it's an
 inconvenience, not a show-stopper. But I'm curious how to get it back.

I don't understand what you mean by default folder. What kind of email
account is this about - POP or IMAP? If you refer to a Search folder (or
vFolder as it was called in former releases), displaying all unread mail
in Evolution in just one virtual folder no matter where it is
physically located, I'd propose to just recreate it (Edit - Search
Folders - Add - Status | is not | Read).
Search folders are displayed at the bottom of the folder list in the
left side bar.

 Malfunction 2: 
 Folder/filter unwanted deletion
   and
 Incoming Mail misdirection
 
 Several folders mysteriously vanished on May 4th, and perhaps filters
 also. 
 
 At the same time, all incoming mail began to fail to sort to the Inbox.
 After a search I found it is sorting into /Search Folders/Unmatched/
 (Currently holding 30057 messages).

Search Folders are only virtual. You can right-click at the column
headers in the message list pane of the Unmatched search folder and
choose Add Column - Location. This will show you in which folder
those messages are really located as a hint.
There can be several reasons why mail does not get displayed though it
must be present somewhere. See
http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#I_cannot_see_some_emails.2C_but_they_must_be_there.
 for potential reasons.

If you think that your filters do not work, see
http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Why_do_my_mail_filters_not_work.3F .
If you want to know what your filters are exactly doing, you could also
tell Evolution to log its filter activities. See
http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_see_what_my_filters_are_doing.3F for 
more information.

Hope that helps,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Conduits

2008-07-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 28.07.2008, 18:44 +0200 schrieb Oliver Sampson:
 This list seems to be pretty low traffic. Is there someplace else the
 evolutionaries hang out?

#evolution channel on GIMPnet IRC.
most developers' office times are in UTC+0530.

 (And as I just learned, why is the reply-to for this list not set to
 being the list?)

Just use control+L to answer in Evolution. ;-)
In general: http://producingoss.com/en/mailing-lists.html#reply-to 

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Installation import from previous disk

2008-07-21 Thread Andre Klapper
For future reference: This is a question for the users list, not the
hackers list.

Am Sonntag, den 20.07.2008, 21:44 -0400 schrieb Ian Chapman:
 Hi, I've just moved up to a 500G drive from an 80G.  I've re-installed
 Ubuntu AMD64 from the CD onto my new drive.  I can see the 80G drive
 okay.  What I would like to do is to import the contacts list and if
 possible my old emails.  I hope that you can help.  Regards Ian.

Either use the Backup/Restore plugin in Evolution, or read about the old
way at
http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_transfer_all_my_Evolution_data_between_computers.2Fto_a_new_partition.2Fto_a_new_computer.3F

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[Evolution-hackers] today's evolution userdocs update.

2008-06-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Dear Evolution Team.

Thanks for not testing the integrity of the changed userdocs file.
Thanks for removing too much markup, though required to compile.
Thanks that this means 2.22.3 does not compile out of the box, see
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540918 .
Thanks for not testing the tarballs you release. It's not the first
time.
Thanks for getting the docs update committed to svn 5 hours before
tarballing, so no translators could update their translations.
Again, thanks for not proofreading anything in evolution.xml - thanks
for keeping the error rate constant, and people in work. Translators
love to update their translations frequently everytime you commit some
spelling fixes and introduce some new ones.

I'm pretty fed up with wasting my time and repeating the same stuff
over and over again, and getting answered that it won't happen again.

Now one may come up with other conclusions, but Novell IS capable to
handle the user docs. I was told that in
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435942#c41 . That is a good
feeling that lets me sleep warm and comfortable, without any worries.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Yours sincerely,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Contact component in Evolution source code

2008-06-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 12:33 +0530, svalbard colaco wrote:
 Is it something to do with mini-cards ?
 
 What are these e-minicards in Evolution.

Choosing View  Current View  Address cards will display them in the
Contacts window.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Elderly Evolution confused on filters

2008-06-03 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 29.05.2008, 09:23 -0500 schrieb Daniel L. Johnson:
 I realize that this makes my situation potentially uninteresting
 because
 I'm so far behind, but I report it to you in case it reveals something
 that could be of current interest.

is there any output when you start evolution from a terminal window?
also see
http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_see_what_my_filters_are_doing.3F

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] ERROR** Cannot connect to Gnome Pilot Daemon. when clicked on Edit -- Synchronization option

2008-05-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 28.05.2008, 15:25 +0530 schrieb svalbard colaco:
 I have evolution on DirectFB ; when i click on Edit --
 Synchronization option in the toolbar ; I get an error message stating
 
 ERROR** Cannot connect to Gnome Pilot Daemon.
 
 What colud be the reason ? Do i have to install some  additional
 package?

i went to http://www.google.com (quite useful), entered the term
gnome pilot daemon and the first result was
http://live.gnome.org/GnomePilot .

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[Evolution-hackers] Error storing summary.

2008-05-09 Thread Andre Klapper
OK, so i managed to fuck up my POP Inbox for the third time in a few
weeks, means: every time i switch to another folder i now get an Error
storing summary (or something like that). i've seen some reports about
this in bugzilla, e.g.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532049 . the last time i ran
into this psankar told me to manually edit the mbox file and remove the
offending email that misses the From line. this is not fun anymore when
having a 600MB inbox file. a normal user is not willing to learn vim and
emacs, me neither. if nobody's working on a fix i should consider
switching to thunderbird.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution exchange-2.12.3 fails to compile.............Plz need urgent help....

2008-04-25 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 25.04.2008, 19:24 +0530 schrieb svalbard colaco:
 Thanks for your inputs..
 
 Yup i have installed OpenLDAP-2.2.6...

devel-packages, or self-compiled? distro?

 It got installed successfully but as mentioned earlier gave errors in
 evolution-exchange-2.12.3 compilation.
  And OpenLDAP-2.3 and higher compilation itself fails

error?

 Any idea what i should be doing..?
 
 Thanks,
 sv

and your dot key seems to be broken, it is triggered several times when
you hit it.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Request for a new EPlugin hook in composer windowI would like to modify the Evolution Composer windo

2008-04-14 Thread Andre Klapper
ahoj,

Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 15:55 -0400 schrieb Gary Ilijevich:
 I would like to modify the Evolution Composer window.  I would like to
 add a button to the window that, when pressed, checks the entered text
 for unallowed words (DirtyWords).  I would also like to do this check
 when the user presses the Send button.  

sounds basically like what the attachment reminder plugin already does
(when clicking Send, check the text for some dirty words like attach
and when there's no attachment show a warning)?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] EPlugin newbie query

2008-03-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 14.03.2008, 17:09 +0800 schrieb Johan Jonathan Nugraha:
 I've read the EPlugin manual docs and I've written my own code and XML
 files. I tried to compile but It seems my plugin is not working.

what does is not working mean? what does tried to compile mean?

 After searching more I found out that i need to use
 --enable-plugins=all . 
 May I know how to use this option?

when you run configure/autogen.sh, you add --enable-plugins=all to the
command.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] unsubscribe

2008-01-22 Thread Andre Klapper
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http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers .

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Warning: careful rebuilding with my makefile!!

2008-01-17 Thread Andre Klapper
[answering this to have a solution in the mail archives]

Am Dienstag, den 15.01.2008, 17:53 -0500 schrieb Paul Smith:
 gcc -g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes 
 -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -D_REENTRANT -o .libs/context-test 
 context-test.o test-utils.o  ../libsoup/.libs/libsoup-2.4.so  -Wl,--rpath 
 -Wl,/opt/evo/lib
 ../libsoup/.libs/libsoup-2.4.so: undefined reference to 
 `g_cancellable_is_cancelled'

just ran into the same issue, a clean checkout of libsoup fixed this.
also see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510216 .
also, there is now an additional check for glib = 2.15 in libsoup
trunk:
http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/libsoup/trunk/configure.in?r1=1041r2=1044 

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Badness in latest SVN

2007-12-19 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 19.12.2007, 10:24 -0500 schrieb Paul Smith:
 Every time I click on a new message the
 entire window is readjusted up, then down again, by a few pixels

this has happened due to the initial work on non-intrusive errors (bug
24737). it is a known problem of 2.21.4.

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[Evolution-hackers] future of evolution user docs.

2007-12-11 Thread Andre Klapper
for a long time, several people have been unhappy with the current state
of the evolution user docs[1]. me too, but most of my rantings have been
on irc so i can't link to them. ;-)

when evolution 2.0 became an official part of GNOME 2.8, aaron was
working full-time on the evolution docs. now my impression is that
updates get written in a hurry without any proof-reading.

it has happened twice to me that svn changes have been overwritten[2,3],
because novell uses its own user documentation management for evolution
(read: apply changes to an adobe framemaker document and then try to get
them into svn. somehow). dropping code, instead of merging. cathedral,
instead of bazaar. that's not really how open source works.
it means that patches cannot get easily committed because they would get
overwritten by novell's next commit.
also, me and other folks have spent quite some time to discuss and
explain basic gnome doc workflow stuff to the assigned writers[4].

the docs are still very novell-specific. red carpet is still
mentioned, for additional help you are told to visit
http://support.novell.com, sometimes it is Novellreg;
Evolutiontrade; and in general the documentation conventions haven't
been changed to gnome's conventions (markup[5], terminology).
also, lots of explanations are just of the read the interface back to
you type (but this is not an evolution specific problem).

when i translated the majority of the evolution user guide to german, i
have found a lot of errors[6]. some of them have been fixed, some of the
fixes have introduced new errors (did i say proof-reading already?).


summary: there are two problems. the modus operandi of novell's doc
team and the quality of the docs.


proposals:
1) novell's doc team shall use the gnome svn version as the base version
for changes and rework the doc to follow gnome's conventions. novell,
like any other distributor, may of course derivate from the gnome svn
doc as they wish to provide their own, enhanced evolution user
documentation that provides a much better desktop experience with
novell's/(open)suse's desktop.
2) if we cannot find a consensus, fork. novell may have its own branch
for the docs, and we can port and backport changes between branches.

the gnome documentation team does not have enough manpower to update the
user documentation by itself, so i would still prefer to see the first
proposal happen. the question is whether we want to have a clean and
typo-free (but obsolete) doc, or a more-or-less up-to-date (but
error-prone and non-gnome-compliant) doc. having both
would be the best choice, of course.

andre


[1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2007-August/msg00051.html
[2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411255
[3] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56#c4
[4] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435942
[5] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404234
[6] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438479
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution progress for 2.22

2007-12-04 Thread Andre Klapper
hi srini,
thanks for the status report.

Am Dienstag, den 04.12.2007, 10:41 +0530 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan:
 Till now in 2.22 cycle, we have done
   * Google Calendar suppport
   * Support for external editors as composers
   * New Tango icons look
   * lots of bug fixes.
 
 I'm hoping to get the following things for 2.22 cycle.
 * Exchange Smartcard support (Mostly done and GAL is still pending)
 * Non-Intrusive error reporting (Prototype patch is there, not started
 yet)
 * Matt's new-look composer

cool, looks like http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap is more or less uptodate.

to keep up a tradition, i'd like to list those issues i've been always
proposing for the last cycles:
  * 213072 - summary mismatch (74 duplicates, 6 in the last 30
days)
  * 352287 - share weather locations with libgweather as far as
possible
  * 233035 - support central deployment
  * make evo realize that it crashed when getting restarted
(mbarnes)
  * 347471 looks like already work in progress.
  * 335923 - lockdown support (i hope that federico is working on
this?)

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Ical (WebDAV) Web-Calendar read-only!?

2007-11-30 Thread Andre Klapper
hi artur,

Am Freitag, den 30.11.2007, 11:31 +0100 schrieb Artur Mücke:
 does anyone know if there is a plan when web-calendars will be
 implemented as writable in Evolution?

web calendars are, by definition, read-only. it's the same with web
pages when using your browser. ;-)
what you want is CalDAV, and a complaint to OpenXChange to support it.

 Does anyone know if/when iCal calendars will be writable in Evolution!?

ical is just a file format and has nothing to do with this i'd say.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] 2.21.1 still does not seem to have smart card authentication for exchange?

2007-11-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Samstag, den 03.11.2007, 12:22 -0500 schrieb John H.:
 2.21.x was supposed to have smart card authentication for
 exchange/owa.  I still had a secmod.db or whatever in my ~/.evolution
 dir that calls on my smart card reader when I go in evolution
 preferences, prompting me for my PIN.

 Am I missing something?

smartcard support is not yet supported, otherwise it would be included
in the Changelog. :-)
bharath is working on this, probably included in version 2.21.3.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Request for improved svn commit messages

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Klapper
ahoj,

though srini has already done a good(TM) decision on this, my two cents:

Am Freitag, den 05.10.2007, 10:38 +0200 schrieb Frederic Crozat:
 Second, being self-contained (and therefore, ease of use for external
 maintainers / lurkers / packagers / release-team). You are only thinking
 of svn log when using viewcvs. But if you are, just like me, subscribed
 to svn-commit mailing list, it is really much easier to see directly
 what it a commit purpose (fix a typo, a bug, etc) without having to rely
 on another tool / website. Same apply when using svn log command
 directly.

for me it makes easier to search in the codebase whether a crasher bug
has been perhaps already fixed in svn by searching through the changelog
for potential fixes (if a crasher bug report is about an old version, or
if one source file has received a lot of changes, you can't use the line
numbers of the stacktrace to look up the source area anymore). i've
done this several times within the nautilus code and it can save some
time to work that way, with evo it's sometimes really hard because you
have to look up and read the bug reports all the time, yepp.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Synching Evolution/GNOME version

2007-10-03 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 03.10.2007, 13:43 +0200 schrieb Jules Colding:
 Does it really matter? But, well, I doesn't care so please go ahead...

it does. it's annoying that i have to remember which version corresponds
to which gnome release for gtk+, glib, evofriends and other modules
(i'm happy that atk, at-spi  gail already switched to the gnome
versioning a few months back), both from a bugsquad and a release-team
point of view.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-09-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 06.09.2007, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Murray Cumming:
 So this has nothing to do with asking for the timezone in evolution's 
 first-use wizard?
 Why does evolution do that instead of using the system timezone?

according to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229132#c3 the
default is set to the current timezone configured in the system, at
least.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] installing Mac OSX Evolution

2007-09-06 Thread Andre Klapper
hi roger,

Am Mittwoch, den 05.09.2007, 03:05 +1000 schrieb Roger S:
 Any idea how to install OSX Novell Evolution.
 On the thread, 

which thread?
i mean: if there's any problems, all of them are explained on that
website, you know? ;-)

 Is the Mac version of Evolution just not ready for use at the moment?

http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Does_a_version_for_Apple.28R.2CTM.2CC.2Cwhatever.29_Mac_OS.28R.2CTM.2CC.2Cwhatever.29_exist.3F

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] libeshell.so not installed for evolution's make install

2007-08-18 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

Am Samstag, den 18.08.2007, 02:49 -0400 schrieb Jawaad Ahmad:
 Everything worked fine until I tried to run sudo make install for
 evolution itself. It looks like libeshell.so was not installed
 to /opt/evo/lib/evolution2.12, causing a link error when
 libevolution-test.so is built.

workaround: configure with --enable-test-component=no

the test component is broken, i had the same issue here, though
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444289 has been fixed it's
still impossible to install the test component for me.
does anyone of the evohackers actually set --enable-test-component=yes ?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] adding an Instant Messenger to evolution to offer it to openoffice

2007-08-18 Thread Andre Klapper
ahoj,

that's been a confusing email, mixing up sylpheed and evolution. :-)

Am Samstag, den 18.08.2007, 18:50 +0200 schrieb Michael Schmidt:
 I want to request to add an instant messenger to sylpheed mail client.
 there is a serverless one out here:
 http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=618174

no, what we definitely don't need in the (wider) GNOME platform is
*another* instant messenger.

 Please can you add it, so that online and offline communication meet
 under one gui?

no. currently evolution supports syncing with pidgin/gaim. furthermore,
improved general IM integration is discussed.

 That done, we could offer it to open office as a component:

i have no idea what this has to do with evolution at all...

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] EvOOolution-Communicator [was: adding an Instant Messenger to evolution to offer it to openoffice]

2007-08-18 Thread Andre Klapper
ahoj,

Am Sonntag, den 19.08.2007, 01:46 +0200 schrieb Michael Schmidt:
 So two ideas come here:
 (1) open office needs definately an email client and maybe an IM client.

...and a kitchensink. in short: no, it does not. it perhaps just needs
improved integration.

 Retroshare is a cool Instant Messenger and Evolution is a cool Email client 
 too.
 Both could merge

no. ever tried to merge totally different codebases? hey, just take a
look how kde does it and copy the code, eh?

  and the atempt for this mail is, to bring both to
 OpenOffice as a new Component.

oh my god. if you have hundreds of developers with you and want to spend
another three years like the netscape 4 - 6 rewrite, please go ahead.
and lose any market share in that time. 

 Would be nice to hear, that there is a (technical) way to port
 Evolution to Windows 

evolution IS available for windows.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] EvOOolution-Communicator [was: adding an Instant Messenger to evolution to offer it to openoffice]

2007-08-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 19.08.2007, 02:44 +0200 schrieb Michael Schmidt:
 hey, Fine, thats why it is of interest. So you need only to bring the
 RS core library to 5 frames (login/create account / friendslist,
 personal chat, filebrowse, options for router)  in the gui of linux
 and win.

evolution is NOT only available on linux and win.

 Why has EvOOolution Communicator not a QT-crossplatform Gui?

i don't know of EvOOolution Communicator, please ask the authors.

with regard to evolution itself: patches are accepted if they have a
reasonable goal. good luck.
full stop.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Data storage question

2007-08-10 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 09.08.2007, 00:33 -0400 schrieb administrator:
 I'm trying to write a php script that will create mail accounts in
 evolution.

vague, but if it's about deploying evolution, there are already some
tools available. should be listed somewhere on http://go-evolution/FAQ .

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] No Reply All for Evolution (3) ?

2007-06-22 Thread Andre Klapper
ahoj,

Am Freitag, den 22.06.2007, 07:13 +0200 schrieb Martin Jeppesen:
 Many novice users don't understand the Reply and Reply All buttons

looking into the message menu, you have the reply to sender (this is
the long term for reply) and reply to all options, which should
pretty clearly explain what this is about. it's also explained in the
documentation. 

so if you deploy evolution, you can patch it by changing the file
/$PREFIX/share/evolution/2.x/ui/evolution-mail-message.xml that includes
 placeholder name=MailMessageToolbar
   toolitem name=MessageReplySender verb=
_label=Reply priority=1
pixtype=pixbuf/
perhaps this could be a workaround for you.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail+iTunes GUI suggestion for Evolution 3

2007-05-27 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

Am Sonntag, den 27.05.2007, 19:15 +0200 schrieb Louise Hoffman:
 A bit off topic. But I saw some mocku ps at planet.gnome.org for an UI
 for Evolution 3.
 
 Are there any official UI work going on for Evolution 3?

i haven't seen *any* sentence somewhere that a version 3 of evolution is
planned, so i wonder where that term/number comes from...
development of the exiting version 2 of course exists, and there is also
some planning, but not for a radical rewrite of the user-interface, as
far as i know.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail+iTunes GUI suggestion for Evolution 3

2007-05-27 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 27.05.2007, 19:32 +0200 schrieb Louise Hoffman:
 I can't remember his name, but I have uploaded the 4 screenshots at
 http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005543859649485106
 
 Click on next in the top right corner for the other 3 screenshot.
 
 I though it was someone from this mailinglist that had posted them?

ah yeah, it's from dave's blog, see this article:
http://davelargo.blogspot.com/2007/03/evolution-30.html

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail+iTunes GUI suggestion for Evolution 3

2007-05-27 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

Am Sonntag, den 27.05.2007, 21:11 +0200 schrieb Louise Hoffman:
  ah yeah, it's from dave's blog, see this article:
  http://davelargo.blogspot.com/2007/03/evolution-30.html
 Yes, that them! =)
 Are the any weight behind these mock ups? I mean, is he a key Novell person?

no, dave is a customer. he does not work for novell.

 I assume Novell controls the development of Evolution?

most of the evo maintainers work for novell, but evolution has also
maintainers working for redhat and openedhand.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Patches in need of review (E-D-S)

2007-04-03 Thread Andre Klapper
posting again those patches that are not committed/reviewed yet.

Am Montag, den 29.01.2007, 10:55 +0100 schrieb Kjartan Maraas:
 Following up on the list I made for Evolution. This time e-d-s:
 
 Bug 359806 – Non-ascii characters generate trash in address lists
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359806
 
 Bug 394567: ical file ends \r\n and fbtypes
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394567
 
 Bug 331099: evolution allocates 65GB of memory then pages to death on
 amd64
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331099

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [Evolution] ANNOUNCE: Evolution 2.10.0, Evolution-Data-Server 1.10.0, GtkHTML 3.14.0 and Evolution Exchange 2.10.0

2007-03-13 Thread Andre Klapper
PLEASE DO NOT CROSSPOST.
neither the release-team nor the announce-list are interested in your
question. evolution-hackers is for code related questions only. thanks.

Am Dienstag, den 13.03.2007, 13:13 -0400 schrieb Reid Thompson:
 Where can I find instructions for doing this?..
  It was never so easy to subscribe to Public folders on your Exchange
  account 

have you already taken a look into the help file?
copy and paste says:
Subscribe to Public Folders
You can subscribe to public folders available on the Exchange server.
Click Folder gt; Subscriptions.
Select the Exchange account.
Check the folders you want to scubscribe to.
Click OK.
The folders you have subscribed to appear in the folder list at the left.
To view contents of a folder, click it.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] bugs.

2007-03-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Samstag, den 03.03.2007, 21:34 +0100 schrieb guenther:
  harish, can i get a new features in 2.10-list and a really
  definitely(TM) planned stuff for 2.20-list? (...nagging...)
 
 As discussed on IRC already, l.g.o should hold the list of major new
 features / changes -- exactly as it has been requested.
 
 http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointSeventeen/ReleaseNotes?action=diffrev2=57rev1=56

nice.

i knew about that, but there's been always something like a welcome to
evolution email in the inbox, for new users, which would probably look
better if it would list more than three items.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] bugs.

2007-03-01 Thread Andre Klapper
perhaps even more important thean my list is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413268 which is about being
unable to delete an empty folder. probably many users will run into this
for evo 2.10.
varadhan, sankar?

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[Evolution-hackers] bugs.

2007-02-28 Thread Andre Klapper
now that i have found out the aim of the 2.9.x evo series (= stability),
i'd love to present you a list of crasher reports. it is also available
at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/duplicates.cgi?sortby=countreverse=1maxrows=50openonly=1product=Evolution



Evolution crashes when closing main window
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334966
174 duplicates. NEEDINFO state.

crash in camel-mime-part-utils.c:71
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352284#c8
93 duplicates, and an inviting stacktrace.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348149#c79
82 duplicates.
can somebody (varadhan? sankar?) please comment on comment 79?

Crash in ETable a11y code
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330728
61 duplicates.
can evolution developers please run their desktops with accessibility
enabled, to also run into this issue 5 times a day, like i do?
srini, can the patch please go in for 2.10?



and of course there are lots of crashers with good traces available,
e.g. 387143, 271693, 411018, 410750, 349913, 411885, 412582, 412565,
405777, to list only a few. would be nice to fix some of them before
branching for evolution 2.19 (we will switch to the gnome version naming
system to reduce confusion, won't we?  ;-)

harish, can i get a new features in 2.10-list and a really
definitely(TM) planned stuff for 2.20-list? (...nagging...)

thanks a lot folks,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Where to put UI items for templates (Bug #127529)

2007-02-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 22.02.2007, 00:38 -0700 schrieb Sankar P:
 If all you need is just a non-deleting draft, you can use Edit as new
 message. I have felt that this shouldn't be restricted to Sent-items
 alone as we allow configurable sent-folders. IIRC, there is a bug for
 this as well. 
 
 Srini: Shall we make this available on all folders ?

at least make it available for the Sent folders that are defined in the
preferences (for each[!] account), and subfolders of those Sent folders
(because i still think that one cannot re-send something that has
never been sent before). bug 205728.

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Where to put UI items for templates (Bug #127529)

2007-02-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 22.02.2007, 00:38 -0700 schrieb Sankar P:
 If all you need is just a non-deleting draft, you can use Edit as new
 message.

err, well. this sounds as intuitive as possible to me, a kind of draft
feature (where i probably will always have to remove some email text
because i abuse a sent email as a draft), hidden as edit as new in
some obscure context menu...
i think that it will be you who will have to add this feature to the
FAQ, if this proposal was really meant seriously.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Where to put UI items for templates (Bug #127529)

2007-02-10 Thread Andre Klapper
may a developer answer this, or shall matthew ask for a third time on
this list, after waiting for six weeks for some feedback?

andre


Am Freitag, den 26.01.2007, 16:59 -0600 schrieb Matthew Martin:
 I'm working on templates for evolution. I need to know where to put all
 the UI items for templates. There would need to be a save template,
 default new mail, and default reply items. I read some of the HIG and
 stuck them in there so I could write the code. Here's a link to the
 patches. http://mtt.martin.googlepages.com/ The first one is for
 evolution, and the second is for evolution-data-server.
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] String additions to 'evolution.gnome-2-16'

2007-01-27 Thread Andre Klapper
hej,

Am Samstag, den 27.01.2007, 09:40 +0200 schrieb Tomas Kuliavas:
  There have been following string additions to module
  'evolution.gnome-2-16':
 
  +  Message from 
  +  The User 
  + has shared a folder with you\n\n

 I suspect that string is separated into two separate translations with
 variable (username) between them.

indeed, it is the crappiest l10n code that i have *ever* seen.
i filed a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401288 .

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[Evolution-hackers] String and UI Announcement Period.

2007-01-27 Thread Andre Klapper
String and UI Announcement Period means that new strings and new UI
should be ANNOUNCED, for example if a IMAP Headers feature is suddenly
added, without letting anybody of your translators know.
And marking UI-visible strings as translatable would also be a nice
benefit.

also see http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointSeventeen .

fighting with windmiles, i know. just for future reference.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Requests

2007-01-03 Thread Andre Klapper
hi björn,

fur future reference, please post this to the evolution users list at
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
this list is for code discussion only.

@evo hackers: adding a meaningful description for both evolution-list
and evolution-hackers list at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/
could be useful, heh? harish? ;-)

Am Mittwoch, den 03.01.2007, 15:14 +0100 schrieb Björn Fay:
 1. Don't load attachments by default. Load them if I click on them, this
 saves bandwith.

if just all servers would understand this... ;-)

 2. It's good to be able to modify the view of the mailfolder, but it
 would be even better if I could change the view at once for many
 folders, without clicking on each and select the saved view. Or make the
 default changeable.

iirc, this is already filed as a feature request in bugzilla.gnome.org.

 The temporary file to open an attachment should be saved with read/write
 access not read only.

no, definitely not, because evo would save a file in evolution's temp
folder when clicking on the save button of the external application the
attachment was opened with, so the user will never find that changed
file again. read-only mode was done by purpose, and it's good to have.

 When I write a mail, I want to write more than one address (per hand),
 which is not in my addressbook. I am used to it from thunderbird and
 it should not be a big deal.

i don't get the point here. what *exactly* are you used to, what are you
missing?

 There is an option for export an calendar via SSH. Why not make an
 entier SSH-calendar, so you could have an easy
 light-weight-calendar-server. Could not be so difficult, I think.

please not. evolution is not a server application, but a client. just
use server applications if you need server applications, or use
CalDAV... :-)

 A greater wish would be an interface for eGroupware, perhaps per SyncML
 or so. There are external programs already, but it's still a bit
 complicated.

yes, there's an syncml plugin available, as far as i know - it is
possible already. what's exactly complicated here?

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Visual indication of online/offline?

2006-12-06 Thread Andre Klapper
hej srini,

Am Mittwoch, den 06.12.2006, 17:20 + schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan:
 I have some plans on the intrusive error dialogs stuff.

any mockups or code to test attached to
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247373 would be gladly
welcome, once it exists. :-)

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[Evolution-hackers] sorting out bugs by taking a look at the dup count

2006-10-19 Thread Andre Klapper
namaste folks,

okay, let's try to find some urgent stuff to fix by taking a look at the
duplicates count (since this is an easy way to identify stuff that bites
people):

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350981
assertion crash in gtkhtml's htmlgdkpainter.c
21 duplicates, stacktrace with line numberssymbols available

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312348
e-d-s calendar/orbit2 memory corruption
19 duplicates, stacktrace with line numberssymbols available
363102 seems to be unrelated, but could also be addressed as it seems to
be a similar problem.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330157
mailer crash
16 duplicates, stacktrace with line numberssymbols available at 360352

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204029
wants to receive encrypted mail contacts option enhancement request
22 duplicates, does somebody work on this for 2.9? is this planned?

would be great if the crashers could be addressed for evo 2.8.2 and if
somebody (devashish?) would work on the last issue.

feedback most welcome, especially bug assignments. :-)

thanks in advance for caring,
andre

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[Evolution-hackers] gnome-2-16 branch

2006-10-14 Thread Andre Klapper
namaste,

it looks like there is a gnome-2-16 branch in cvs, but i haven't seen
any email announcing the branching and the plans for version 2.10.

http://live.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner :
When you branch, please remember to let release-team,
desktop-devel-list, gnome-doc-list, and gnome-i18n know. It is
especially important that translators and documenters know, so
they can concentrate on the stable branches during the run up to
the final release, and afterwards when further stable releases
will be made. If you've created a branch for stable GNOME
release, please, include in your mail a plan for your project
for the next release cycle. Note that many people would like to
know what will happen in next release.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [PATCH 3/3] Add some missing includes

2006-08-19 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 15.08.2006, 11:41 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: 
 If only partial APIs are going to be #include'd in Evolution source
 files, then can I ask that the -Werror-implicit-function-declaration
 flag be used for compilation?  That would reduce the need for future
 patches like the one Pavel is proposing here.

let's get matthew's patch at bug 351332 in and from that on, we should
compile always with -Werror-implicit-function-declaration and
G_LOG_LEVEL_CRITICAL enabled to both avoid problems on other platforms
and unusable 2.7.4 releases.
harish, poornima?

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Adding documentation to Evolution's code

2006-08-10 Thread Andre Klapper
hej mayank,

Am Mittwoch, den 09.08.2006, 17:43 +0530 schrieb Mayank Jain:
 With that in mind, I would like to add more documentation, comments
 (with whatever knowledge I have) to the code.

as you already noted, being a newbie and trying to code on evolution is
very hard, therefore any additional documentation is highly appreciated!
matthew already posted about gtk-doc which would be imo the best way to
do this. i'd prefer to have a bug report for each component and to
attach patches (cvs diff -pu) to them.

thanks,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] lost connection to evolution exchange backend process

2006-07-12 Thread Andre Klapper
hi tim,

On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 11:09 -0500, TimD Smith wrote:
 Anybody know the fix for this error?  Evolution crashes on me about 30
 times a day with this message.  I have to kill evolution-data-storage
 and evolution violently for it to start working again.

please post user questions to the evolution users mailing list:
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

evolution-hackers is for code discussion only.

thanks,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Commandline configuration

2006-05-15 Thread Andre Klapper
hi jared,

Am Montag, den 15.05.2006, 14:14 -0500 schrieb Jared Jennings:
 Is there a way to configure evolution using autoyast or some sort of
 scripting method?
 
 The end result would be that they user would be prompted for their
 exchange username and password after the hardware had been imaged and
 they were authenticating for the first time.

the only easy way that i know of to set up evolution's configuration
information on many computers is using Evolution GConf Tools, which have
been written in the hope of automating mass deployments of evolution.
a tarball should be available at
http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/evolution-gconf-tools, also check
http://live.gnome.org/Evolution_2fGConfTools for more information.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [ANNOUNCE] Unstable - Evolution 2.7.1, Evolution-Data-Server 1.7.1, Evolution-Exchange 2.7.1 and GtkHTML 3.11.1

2006-04-25 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 24.04.2006, 22:50 +0530 schrieb Harish Krishnaswamy:
 You can download the following :
 [...]
 http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/libsoup/2.2/libsoup-2.2.6.1.tar.bz2

guess this should better be
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/libsoup/2.2/libsoup-2.2.92.tar.bz2  :-)

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] evolution shortcut keys review (II).

2006-04-20 Thread Andre Klapper
hi srini,

Am Donnerstag, den 20.04.2006, 08:43 +0530 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan:
  HeadingNormal *Ctrl*0bug 339093  - Control+9 ? 
 
  TextZoomReset *Control*0bug 339093
 
 Is this the only conflict? I guess both of these are in different views
 and wont conflict at all IMO. The user can use C+0 in both views and do
 the respective task.

no, they both apply to the composer, otherwise i wouldn't have marked
them as a conflict. ;-)

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] evolution shortcut keys review (II).

2006-04-20 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

sorry for answering to myself.

Am Donnerstag, den 20.04.2006, 11:49 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:
 no, they both apply to the composer, otherwise i wouldn't have marked
 them as a conflict. ;-)

i was wrong. i'moving further discussion to bug 339093.

cheers  thanks for correcting,
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[Evolution-hackers] evolution shortcut keys review (II).

2006-04-19 Thread Andre Klapper
hej hej,

once again, i collected the shortcuts used within evolution (cvs head)
at
http://go-evolution.org/Shortcut_Keys_Review

the changes done for 2.5.4 were great - seems like we have only one
existing shortcut conflict. srini, comments?

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Logs

2006-04-03 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

Am Montag, den 03.04.2006, 14:21 +0100 schrieb neelu dhiman:
 Can anyone please tell me if Evolution Logs are generated or not ?

on what? if you want so, they are created. :-)
kindly check out http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/bugs.shtml for
more information on how to get logs.

 If we have some problem in executing the Evolution Plugins , then are
 any logs generated ?
 I am using Evolution 2.2.2.

if you write code yourself, it's generally always better to compile it
against the current codebase (=CVS Head).
evolution 2.2.2 is nearly a year old.

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Don't forget to write ChangeLog entries!

2005-12-31 Thread Andre Klapper
hi tor,

Am Samstag, den 31.12.2005, 11:18 +0200 schrieb Tor Lillqvist:
 Hey, it's very irritating to do a cvs update and notice stuff like:
 
 P mail/em-folder-properties.c
 P mail/evolution-mail.schemas.in.in
 P mail/mail-session.c
 P mail/mail.error.xml

 Notice: no update to mail/ChangeLog.

seems like this is my fault. i don't know what led me to this (perhaps
guenther had put some real beer into those bottles with non-alcoholic
labels when we both met? ;-) ), but i somehow stupidly assumed that my
commit comments would be merged to the corresponding ChangeLog files.

however, i'm going to add my missing ChangeLogs entries after grepping
for my commits, big thank you for pointing me on this.

 All this IMHO, of course.

i do share your opinion.

thanks,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] exchange connector question

2005-11-30 Thread Andre Klapper
hi ron,

you can find some general information on the evolution data server
architecture at http://go-evolution.org/EDS_Architecture

cheers,
andre

Am Mittwoch, den 30.11.2005, 23:40 +0530 schrieb chen:
 You can do that through Evolution-data-server. There was some discussion
 regarding communication with EDS, you can find those mail threads here
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2005-October/msg00070.html.
 
 thanks, Chenthill.
 
 On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 16:21 +0100, Ron Arts wrote:
  Hello all,
  
  We need to build a linux commandline program that can plan a
  meeting in an exchange server calendar, given a startdate,
  and report back the date/time that the meeting will take place.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Sending mails using disabled accounts

2005-11-29 Thread Andre Klapper
hi philip,

Am Mittwoch, den 30.11.2005, 00:38 +0100 schrieb Philip Van Hoof:
 It looks like current CVS does not allow sending E-mails uing disabled
 accounts.
 
 I very often disable E-mail accounts to make it possible to choose
 between multiple of my E-mail addresses. 
 
 Why is this possibility blocked?

hmm, seems like somebody fixed
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243241. there are about seven
duplicates in bugzilla (which have been mostly closed as notabug instead
of having marked them as duplicates).
so the point is if disabled means do not receive or if it also means
and do not send. :-/

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] share filters ont many machines

2005-09-04 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

this is the evolution-hackers list. this is for code discussion only.
please post user questions to evolution-list@gnome.org.

Am Samstag, den 03.09.2005, 21:31 +0200 schrieb Rakotomandimby Mihamina:
 I would like to copy the filters from one computer to another.
 The problem is I dont know what to copy.
 Would you help me? Thank you.

the file is located at ~/.evolution/mail/filters.xml, it contains the
filters you have set up.

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