[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's money

2005-05-17 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Fred's (and my) basis in the stock was zero (meaning he had founder's shares), he could give away 100% of it with no tax consequence at all. Bob is (and I'm sure he's grateful for the fact) not a tax specialist.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Cliff
I feel sorry for you, Bob. Your remarks are so venom-laced and closed-minded... You really seem terribly afraid that your tightly constructed fantasy of Maharishi's perfection might come tumbling down. Where would Bob be then? I've spoken with Earl not too long ago. He's not crazy - just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's money

2005-05-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, you mean like George Bush did, not once but many times? I couldn't agree with you more. :) Did George Bush Sr. have that kind of money? I wasn't aware either that Sr. had that kind of money nor that he gave

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not 'Pee-wee's Big Adventure'? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you watched too many Rocky movies (I-V) just before you left. If those were my two only choices,

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
Dr. Pete, you have often written that MMY is a complete mystery to you, and you seemingly want to keep it that way. For years my mother's behaviour was a complete mystery to me too. I must say that I have much easier time with her and also easier to forgive her and love her and appreciate her as

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we need

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel sorry for you, Bob. Your remarks are so venom-laced and closed-minded... You really seem terribly afraid that your tightly constructed fantasy of Maharishi's perfection might come tumbling down. Where would Bob be

Re: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
It came out about two years ago. - Original Message - From: claudiouk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Trustees who have died.

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Does anyone know the names of the most major Moement trustees in the past and how many are still alive? You knw like Kurley King, Skip Arenandar, Doug Henning, etc... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
Bob: If the Kaplans had continued to practice TM, like you do, despite whatever disaffection they had with anybody in the movement, including MMY, and if they were not making the insane claims about vampirism that they do, then I would not say that they are disordered -- but they are, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddha Quote # 1

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
I prefer: x-tad-biggerBelieve nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings --

Re: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
What the hell is the Bell of Eureka? This is insane. What a humiliation! The whole thing is going to fail because some moron is using some misplaced tantric double-talk phrase that will confuse the great peace loving dictators of the world. My God! what a disastor in the making! Ring my bell of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with Buddhists

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 16, 2005, at 11:59 PM, hyperbolicgeometry wrote: -More jewels of wisdom (below). In addition, most Buddhists are nihilists and have been duped into the false idea that after getting Enlightened, dropping the body (and all subtle bodies) is a higher state of evolution than maintaining

[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2005-05-17 Thread FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /ehdddp.zip Uploaded by : llundrub_mamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Heart Drops of Dharmakaya You can access this file at the URL:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with Buddhists

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 1:45 AM, Rick wrote: One more problem with Buddhismit's an ism It's just another bad translation. Real name: Dharma or Buddha-Dharma. Much like Hinduism which is a poor translation of something not so simple. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 16, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The man radiated pure consciousness like a blast furnace. Something profound going on there. How do you differentiate this from a placebo effect? Unless you were in a neutral state, how could the mind judge? Does pure consciousness radiate?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Kaplans had continued to practice TM, like you do, despite whatever disaffection they had with anybody in the movement, including MMY, and if they were not making the insane claims about vampirism that they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Llundrub wrote: He has all the money and power in the world but can't set foot in India or anywhere else on the planet for fear of being hauled into court for one thing or another, most usually tax evasion I always wondered about this--he seems trapped in exile. Is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 4:29 AM, bbrigante wrote: it's a shame that they are unable to expand their awareness through a technique that they practiced happily for years simply because they felt pushed around. TM is just meditation with supports. The support is the mantra. Supports are like

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
If the Kaplans had continued to practice TM, like you do, despite whatever disaffection they had with anybody in the movement, including MMY, and if they were not making the insane claims about vampirism that they do... Sorry, still getting used to the Yahoo editor. The paragraph above

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 7:19 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: My position is that this attitude has been taught so pervasively and so effectively that *most* TMers who react this way to news that someone has left the TM movement do NOT realize that they were TAUGHT to react that way, over and over and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddha Quote # 1

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Yeah, I did search on the previous quote and no one anywhere had the exact scriptural reference. Moreover the quote is so pervasive that it's platitudinal at this point. I like the below better as well. Believing nothing makes Buddha sound nihilist as many think and that's not true or the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 7:19 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: My position is that this attitude has been taught so pervasively and so effectively that *most* TMers who react this way to news that someone has left the TM movement do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
I'd rather focus on more positive things,it was interesting in that the teachers they named were*not* all famous and/or wealthy, so the comments didn'tstrike me as coming from any teacher-vs-teacher jealousyor envy. In fact, these teachers listed some *very*famous and/or well-to-do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Yes. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong On May 17, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Llundrub wrote: He has all the money and power in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Whatever the case, I hope they have good path after leaving this cult called the TMO and truly attain in this lifetime.-For sure. I wish them the best. They tried to be good and they in fact were. They still have pure hearts and a pure interest in the spiritual. How can that ever be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
They claim to be having much better experiences and getting much better results with the sadhana they're now doing. Who's to say they're not? Not only that but what does it say about TM if after 60 years of combined TM practise it results in them becoming the wretched souls

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever the case, I hope they have good path after leaving this cult called the TMO and truly attain in this lifetime. IMO, if the Kaplans are still clinging to the unsubstantiated rumors surrounding Guru Dev's death and the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Llundrub wrote: Maharishi obviously is feeding off the furor of his brashness, and he is probably addicted to making waves. Leaders who do not feed off of others would be those who do not try to get their followers all worked up. Humblle leaders who are into

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 8:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: IMO, if the Kaplans are still clinging to the unsubstantiated rumors surrounding Guru Dev's death Well these aren't unsubstantiated rumors Alex regarding Swami Brahmananda's death. They are quite well known. and the other goofiness in that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 4:29 AM, bbrigante wrote: it's a shame that they are unable to expand their awareness through a technique that they practiced happily for years simply because they felt pushed around. TM is just

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
IMO, if the Kaplans are still clinging to the unsubstantiated rumors surrounding Guru Dev's death and the other goofiness in that letter, then they're still in the same cultist rut, except they have new set of nutters doing the brainwashing This says it all. You're point about the divorce phase

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
Vaj I think you are on to something here, but in this case it may be people who have LOST a sense of emotion or mood and need to have it dispensed by a mood-giver. Sound crazy? It's not--the actual Sanskrit name of Transcendental Meditation, bhavatita dhyana, means transcending mood or beyond

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
Well these aren't unsubstantiated rumors Alex regarding Swami Brahmananda's death. They are quite well known. They are unsubstantiated gossip you raving lunatic. What a nut. There is zero evidence for anything remotely of this nature. Just from nutcase anti-TM'rs like you, and no-one will ever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 8:50 AM, off_program_beings wrote: You really don't seem to have ever learned TM. It is as if you never learned it. I'm not being sarcastic. Any TM'r reading your posts, it is as if you really don't understand the technique. Also, what about the TM-Siddhis? If you knew

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 9:04 AM, off_program_beings wrote: Do you realize how stupid that is? Transcending mood (or feelings) means NOT moodmaking you idiot. Your posts seem to be mainly moodmaking. What's sad is when people lose their moods and emotions and must have them dispensed by a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 8:50 AM, off_program_beings wrote: Or maybe they are just enjoying the bliss after 30 years of TM and have slowed down their evolution. Nothing wrong with that. You might want to consider that they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Your posts seem to be mainly "moodmaking". -I agree, much of the good in the world follows emotion and/or moods. Wow, proper mood is often the antidote to many evils that plague us. Ever woke up in a bad mood? Treated people mean most of the day, caused a lot of bad feelings, many of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/16/05 11:51 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking today that if Bob could spend a week or even a day as a fly on the wall in Maharishi¹s apartment he would be utterly shocked. What he observed would be at complete odds with the concepts he¹s been clinging to all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/17/05 1:53 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Look sport, you really are a pissant, I don't care how much money you have that seems to give a sense of entitlement to talk to people like you do here (not an unusual flaw in the rich -- ask people who have dealt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
Einer flipped out, Rick? I could see that. there was always this schizotypal quality about him. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/17/05 12:11 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I know him. The fool used to try to bilk me when I was a student and patently poor. He

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/17/05 1:58 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good one, Unc. One thing to throw into the equation in pondering who M is and what made him tick is the darshan factor. Couldn't have been my imagination. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
As a kid I was heavily conflicted. At one point after learning TM I sold all my hundreds of occult books to Bodhi Tree Bookstore and with the money (not much) bought Radindranath Tagore and Kahlil Gibran. I kept only my Crowley Books, which I later donated to MIU library. I loved Tagore.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
We'll you fulfilled Cliff's prediction, to no one's surprise. Just becausesome of the Kaplan's claims are far-fetched, does that invalidate them all?They have no proof of astral energy sucking, but they have first-handknowledge of money dealings. Hey, Maharishi has claimed all kinds of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
I also experienced the most profound Darshan with Maharishi, that leaves a deep impression on me. From the first time, I felt in his presence a deep bond and light eminating from him, that surprised me, in it's intensity. Of course, there's the fame factor, and the charisma factor; but

[FairfieldLife] Fw: [SAMVA] Sights and Sounds of Outer Space

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Cool. Thanks David for the link. - Original Message - From: David Hawthorne To: David Hawthorne Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: [SAMVA] Sights and Sounds of Outer Space Dear Friends: You may like this website: http://www.spacesounds.com/home/index.html Not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Bullshit

2005-05-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing t3rinity (if that is her real name) You can look up my profile. My name is written there. doesn't seem to get is that a Nath is all these things. Well, for one thing, Nathists are not Advaitins. They maybe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money on 5/17/05 5:52 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Sorry Bob for lombasting you. It's fairly clear to me now that you're just sort of crochety, but maybe not much more whacked than that. Too late to start over and dall that. That's

Re: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/17/05 6:23 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the hell is the Bell of Eureka? This is insane. What a humiliation! The whole thing is going to fail because some moron is using some misplaced tantric double-talk phrase that will confuse the great peace loving dictators of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/17/05 10:15 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Einer flipped out, Rick? I could see that. there was always this schizotypal quality about him. He flipped out big time at the Manor. Straight jacket stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Bullshit

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Ah nevermind the Voudoun thing. Every time I contemplate it I get bad omens. It's I guess just a very dualistic religion and not of the highest self liberation calibre. I admit I find it fascinating but I Ching tells me, "darkening of the light, do not rely on those with bad intentions."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/17/05 10:33 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also experienced the most profound Darshan with Maharishi, that leaves a deep impression on me. From the first time, I felt in his presence a deep bond and light eminating from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/17/05 10:15 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Einer flipped out, Rick? I could see that. there was always this schizotypal quality about him. He flipped out big time at the Manor. Straight jacket stuff. Too bad. How is he

[FairfieldLife] Mark bullshit was V....

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 11:50 AM, t3rinity wrote: Well, for one thing, Nathists are not Advaitins. They maybe similar, but they are not the same. The despise of the strict logic of a Shankara. Apart from that the Nath sampradaya is a separate Sampradaya from Shankara. You either belong to that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with Buddhists

2005-05-17 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 1:45 AM, Rick wrote: One more problem with Buddhismit's an ism It's just another bad translation. Real name: Dharma or Buddha-Dharma. Much like Hinduism which is a poor translation of something

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Therein appears to lie the issue. What IS Enlightenment, anyway? Let's start with, Enlightenment appears being able to have complete sychronicity with the Universe. What then is the Universe, other than our Enlightened perception of it? So I'll amend the previous statement to read:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/17/05 1:53 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Look sport, you really are a pissant, I don't care how much money you have that seems to give a sense of entitlement to talk to people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/17/05 1:58 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good one, Unc. One thing to throw into the equation in pondering who M is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money Yeah, but what most people think is wry is merely caraway. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The

[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev Sound Project

2005-05-17 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Today an additional .mp3 file has been converted and uploaded to the Gurudev webpage at http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm The file is good sound quality and is a 'missing' file which appears to preceed two other recordings already on the site. It is over half an hour (about 36MB)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mark bullshit was V....

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 1:06 PM, t3rinity wrote: Oh, I missed that.The YS interpretation you used to cite here was from a strict Advaitic scholastic POV. Btw., you still haven't given the source of that book (engl.Title/Publisher/Translator/ISBN if possible)) What book are you referring to?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mark bulls**t was V....

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 1:32 PM, t3rinity wrote: The Yoga-Sutra commentary by Vidyaranya, you were alluding to, not too long ago, when you were trashing the siddhis. I'd like to know the english title of the Book, (if you read it in original sanskrit the original sanskrit title), the Translator,

[FairfieldLife] Stories -- was Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we need

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
I'm glad you liked my story. What I meant when I said Guru Dev implanted a time bomb, was just that he (Guru Dev) imparted very efficient use of correct mantras to Maharishi. How this came about, I don't know. However once Maharishi began to effectively spread the use of these mantras, his

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not have time to answer you and Alex's long patronising monologues. The fact of the matter is that you and Alex don't understand TM. Your posts shine that reality out almost every time. Your ego prevents

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
I agree with much of what you are saying. However with regard to the practice of TM, I have found it to be simple, practical and effective with regard to my dynamic western lifestyle. Without peer, really, given that I can do it 20 mins. 2x a day, anywhere, period, and that it is highly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with Buddhists

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Here's to Bali! Which means 'animal' in Sanskrit. Right after we left they had that act of terrorism right near where we had stayed. Remember the nightclub bombing? Pprior to that, when we had visited Paris right after we left they had that bombing of the tunnel by Algerians. We have been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
The Movement is spreading still, only to the third world where no one has heard your voices of reason. For instance I tried to get the owner of the TM Russia Yahoo group to read our posts but he is adamantly against it, nor will he allow any criticism on his group. We here have started

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
He is a New Age crazy do it all gadfly seeker, and regarding Freemasonry, when I asked him what was it that the Templars hid at Rosslyn he didn't know even where that is. If you know anything about it, you know where that is. I grew up in a freemasonary world, where it was still practiced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/17/05 11:25 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you ought to meet Ammachi. She's got the same juice, IMO. Peter says the same of Sri Shi Ravi Shankar. For me Ravi is smokin', just like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Bullshit

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
I always hated that term. blowing raspberries at you.As for your posts they're all one liners without any real contribution to the flow. What are you some sideline cheerleader? Someday when you decide to have a thought, write it down for us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with Buddhists

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Vaj, Can you please comment or provide your explanation of that Life is suffering phrase we keep hearing about associated with Buddha-Dharma? What is the context for such an expression? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 1:45 AM, Rick

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not have time to answer you and Alex's long patronising monologues. The fact of the matter is that you and Alex don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just Another Cafe 'What If' Story

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/17/05 1:20 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/17/05 11:25 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you ought to meet Ammachi. She's got the same juice, IMO. Peter says the same of Sri

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What evidence could be had? And yet there is the rumour which many believe which itself is evidence of something which pervades some people's mindstreams. The caste system strongly pervades those same mindstreams, and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is a New Age crazy do it all gadfly seeker, and regarding Freemasonry, when I asked him what was it that the Templars hid at Rosslyn he didn't know even where that is. If you know anything about it, you know where

Re: [FairfieldLife] YS commentary

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 2:41 PM, t3rinity wrote: It also talks about Unity Consciousness and it's attainment and qualifications. You were alluding to Videha Mukti as unity before, but most commentators, including Ramana Maharshi regard vidaha mukti, to mean liberation *after* death. Thats not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with Buddhists

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Yeah real bummer about the violence, and now tsunami, in Indonesia. Everyone there was so gentle when I lived there, except of course the Communist attempt at taking over the country a la The year of living dangerously. We left as that was getting underway, though we had soldiers stationed in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just received, re: Kalki Diksha

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Have you ever had the experience of experiencing Unity towards another human being, and yet other times feeling alienated towards an aspect of your personality? What is going on in the brain then I wonder? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread anonymousff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we need any story whatsoever regarding MMY? We can neither

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Just checked it out (her website), and her picture contains lots of power and magnetism, but not much compassion. FWIW. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley That's interesting that you say that, because I came across her website a few years ago, and looking at her picture makes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha Quote # 1

2005-05-17 Thread anonymousff
Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense. ~ Buddha 6th century bce Indian mystic and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YS commentary

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 2:59 PM, t3rinity wrote: Too bad :-( maybe you don't like Maharishis. You like scholars. Not particularly. As in many things I think Ramana is full of it--although I do realize he is an icon among a certain set. Videha-mukti is sometimes misinterpreted as being after

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just received, re: Kalki Diksha

2005-05-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, Sri Mananacharya, a very renowned astrologer I work with in India, the Creator of Paramdhaam, looked at the site ( www.liveinjoy.com), and wrote to me that Bhagavan Kalki was the tenth and last incarnation of

[FairfieldLife] Re: YS commentary

2005-05-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ramana was very well aware of stages with self-realization, ie. after being liberated, according to a friend who came close to one of his very close discoples (Annamallai Swami) Yet he sees Videha Mukti as being after

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just received, re: Kalki Diksha

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Stanley
This is the third diksha thingy to come to my attention in recent months... must be a new spiritual meme in FF. The superstitious skeptic in me wonders if it's not just folks looking to sink their psychic claws into other people for whatever reason. I think I'll pass. To subscribe, send a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Bullshit

2005-05-17 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: I've seen much discussion of these rumors in the dozen years I've been online, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just checked it out (her website), and her picture contains lots of power and magnetism, but not much compassion. FWIW. I must be the same magnetic pole as she is, then, because looking at her pic creates repulsion, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Absolutely agree, the knowledge of the TM mantras continues, per Guru Dev. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However did not inhibit the spreading of the knowledge of TM through thousands of independent teachers who now carry the imprint of Guru

[FairfieldLife] Coming soon

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
JUNE 17, 2005, Friday country: USA town: Fairfield district/suburb: IA 52556 duration: 7-10 pm approx instructor: Freddy Nielsen (with Madeleine Rahm) type: Lecture and diksha address: Morningstar Studio, 51 1/2 South Court Street (on the east side of the town square) contact: Marie 641-472-6948

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
I also felt the same. I would rephrase what you said by saying she reflects that within myself which I don't care for. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must be the same magnetic pole as she is, then, because looking at her pic creates repulsion,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just received, re: Kalki Diksha

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
We store our attachments and aversions in our subtle nervous system, when we approach something that represents one or the other of them to us we enliven those samsaras and they arise. Fine feeling ones like for altruism are easy to bring forth and project onto others. Such feeling of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coming soon What is this ??????

2005-05-17 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JUNE 17, 2005, Friday country: USA town: Fairfield district/suburb: IA 52556 duration: 7-10 pm approx instructor: Freddy Nielsen (with Madeleine Rahm) type: Lecture and diksha address: Morningstar Studio, 51 1/2

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coming soon What is this ??????

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
This is the Kalki diksha thing. I'm not into it but someone sent it to me to forward, as well as the thing I posted earlier today. on 5/17/05 3:09 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JUNE 17, 2005,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also felt the same. I would rephrase what you said by saying she reflects that within myself which I don't care for. That's an interesting way of putting it. Funny thing is, it was seeing Saniel Bonder's picture,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Kaplan Money

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Ah she's just another pratyekabuddha who is into being a God amongst mortals. Megalomaniac doesn't quite describe her. Not a single one of these gurus teaches liberation from samsara. Nirmala, Kalki (sic), Sai baba, Sigh Yada, or Maharishi Yagya Jyotish Ayurveda Sthapatya Veda Mahesh Yogi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Just received, re: Kalki Diksha

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Tell the friend in Oregon that I'll like to read what she says about it next year. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Just received, re: Kalki Diksha From a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Bullshit

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
That pretty much sums up my impression of Vaj also :-)Look in a mirror and tell us what sum you come up with. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely agree, the knowledge of the TM mantras continues, per Guru Dev. Does anyone have a quote from MMY, that he got the TM mantras from Guru Dev? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coming soon What is this ??????

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Straight up charlatan. Kirk's take. Anyone with awakened kundalini can give shakti pat. Try it on someone sometime yourself. Light a candle, burn some incense, chant a mantra and take a feather and touch someones crown chakra and tell them how great they are. They'll transcend I swear it.

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