[FairfieldLife] That1Guy in Iowa

2007-01-28 Thread suziezuzie
That1Guy, that1guy.com will be performing on February 8, 2007 - Cedar Rapids, IA - CSPS. He's my brother's kid who invented this wacky instrument and performs all over the world to large and small venues-- instead of pursuing the career of a world class jazz bass player which he was trained to

[FairfieldLife] Interesting brahma-suutras: mechanism of transmigration?

2007-01-28 Thread cardemaister
BS III.1.1 (292) tadantarapratipattau ramhati saMparisSvaktaH prashna-niruupanaabhyaam Without sandhi: tat; antara-pratipattau... Glossary tat that antara mf(%{A}) n. being in the interior , interior ; near , proximate , related , intimate ; lying adjacent to ; distant ; different

[FairfieldLife] That1Guy

2007-01-28 Thread suziezuzie
THAT 1 GUY CSPS debut | Mike Silverman (aka That 1 Guy) is a classically trained bassist. From the age of 15, this gifted musician seemed destined for a musical career his parents could be proud of: playing bass in promising ensembles, winning a Dave Brubeck Jazz Scholarship competition,

[FairfieldLife] KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 11

2007-01-28 Thread cardemaister
Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11. Suutra I.1.11 shrutatvaacca (shrutatva-at; ca: being_learned-from; and) Glossary: zrutatvan. the being taught or learnt S3am2k. ca and S's tr: And because it is directly stated in the Sruti (therefore the all-knowing Brahman

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [TMTrue] My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused

2007-01-28 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Yes John-boy, I read the website and yes indeedee, it is all true. :-) The only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba

2007-01-28 Thread nablusos108
Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi (South India) was arrested and charged with murder. To protest against his arrest, Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some Hindu monks say there is fear of `trial by media'. (1) Behind the case of Shankaracharya's arrest, are

[FairfieldLife] The Paradox of Brahman (was My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused)

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote (about Vaj): What is this incoherent mess trying to say? More crap from the faux-Buddhist little Vajee? Buddha spits in his face. What a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultural history of vegetarianism

2007-01-28 Thread Jason Spock
In the Pre-Civilisation days 10,000 years ago, Canibalism was rampant throughout the World. Tribes living in isolation were more likely to kill and eat anyone not a part of their tribe. Then as Settlements became more organised and defined, Human Sacrifices were rampant all over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Indian economy bigger than U.S. in 2050

2007-01-28 Thread Jason Spock
India can do better than that. But even india finds it difficult to compete with China's subsidised manufacturing. But in the Long term only two countries have the heft to challenge US. Russia and Brazil. Russian economy is bouncing back. India and China have to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/24/07 6:22:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bush didn't even mention any of the disasters of the last year in his speech. What a dumb and ignorant sod. Weren't they the year before last?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Paradox of Brahman (was My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused)

2007-01-28 Thread Jason Spock
Jim needs to perform his Vedic Horse Sacrifice.! Vaj is a Spiritual Giant.! Jim is an Intellectual Pygmy.! TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:52:07 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Paradox of Brahman (was My first post: Please help me,

[FairfieldLife] Young Indian-American Student Achieves Medical Breakthrough

2007-01-28 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.aegis.org/news/voa/2007/VA070115.html Young Indian-American Student Achieves Medical Breakthrough Voice of America - January 23, 2007 Erika Celeste Columbus, Mississippi Click to download/open (MP3) Click to download/open (Real Audio) What could be a life-saving breakthrough in the

[FairfieldLife] interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread george_deforest
How to use a Mantra in Yoga Practice by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati http://www.swamij.com/mantra-use.htm this strikes me as a good un-biased overview, and btw, TM manages to hit all the high points... confirming that technique-wise, maharishi got it right! (Swami J is American-born, yet ordained

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread Jason Spock
You should walk into many of the Mosques in Europe, America and India and hear for yourself, the Sermons and Probaganda these Imams and Clerics preach. Most of these Clerics openly speak of smuggling Heroin and Cocaine into America to destroy the American economy and American

[FairfieldLife] The Belief Tank

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
A highly relevant Doonesbury: http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20070128 or http://tinyurl.com/2mf8s5

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The funny Carrot these morons hold out is that, 'each man will get 72 pornstars in Heaven and a Palace with all Luxuries. But the Same Islam also states that 99% percent of women will go to Hell.!! It's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba

2007-01-28 Thread Peter
--- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi (South India) was arrested and charged with murder. To protest against his arrest, Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some Hindu monks say there is fear of `trial by media'. (1)

[FairfieldLife] The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread kaladevi93
From the TM Free blog: Why TM is Dangerous and Blocks the Path to Liberation Meditate on any mantra long enough and you will awaken kundalini. Add some breathing exercises and some asanas and it makes it even more likely. If that doesn't work, one can use an occult yogic technique like samyama.

[FairfieldLife] 'Swift Boater-Jerome Corsi-JoinsTo Attack Hillary'

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Gimbel
Jerome Corsi, co-author of the 2004 campaign book Unfit for Command attacking Sen. John Kerry's war record, joined up Tuesday with the organization intended to similarly undermine Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton, in the 2008 campaign... While much has been written about the identity and history of

[FairfieldLife] A fun thing to do while Yahoo is spastic

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really enjoying this latest snafu on Yahoo. It's provided me with a fun and interesting lesson in awareness. As far as I can tell, the delay between when you send your post and when it appears is about ten hours. So I'm just now seeing posts I made this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Young Indian-American Student Achieves Medical Breakthrough

2007-01-28 Thread llundrub
Young Indian-American Student Achieves Medical BreakthroughBows - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Young Indian-American Student Achieves Medical Breakthrough

[FairfieldLife] Re: That1Guy in Iowa

2007-01-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for posting this, I love this guy. He will own the college market if he doesn't already. He had the crowd in a frenzy, what an excellent entertainer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That1Guy, that1guy.com will be performing on February 8,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Benjamin Creme

2007-01-28 Thread Lsoma
I agree with Charlie Lutes. When I asked Ariel A seventh dimensional teacher if Lord Matreya was the next world savior. His response A world manipulator would be a more truthful explanation. I miss Charlie. Lsoma.

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan] three states of living

2007-01-28 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I consider myself fortunate to have worked with Fred Lenz (Rama),

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan] three states of living

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [TMTrue] My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Yes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
Well said, Mark. I wouldn't touch the last lines with a ten-foot pole :-), but I sure am interested to hear the response. The problem with believing that you know the Absolute Truth is that it all too often goes hand in hand with believing that you have the right (or worse, the God-given duty)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the TM Free blog: Why TM is Dangerous and Blocks the Path to Liberation Meditate on any mantra long enough and you will awaken kundalini. Add some breathing exercises and some asanas and it makes it even

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Paradox of Brahman (was My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused)

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote (about Vaj): What is this incoherent mess trying to say? More crap from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Mark. I wouldn't touch the last lines with a ten-foot pole :-), but I sure am interested to hear the response. Since Barry already knows quite well what my response would be, this is (surprise!) just a bit

Re: [FairfieldLife] interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:58 AM, george_deforest wrote: How to use a Mantra in Yoga Practice by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati http://www.swamij.com/mantra-use.htm this strikes me as a good un-biased overview, and btw, TM manages to hit all the high points... confirming that technique-wise, maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Swift Boater-Jerome Corsi-JoinsTo Attack Hillary'

2007-01-28 Thread peterklutz
Thank you Robert for this enlightening info - it tells just about everything an observer needs to know about the Enemy of Man at this time. Perhaps all that is missing is an understanding of just how far these characters are willing to take the world to satisfy their Hell-bent egos. The answer

[FairfieldLife] Re: interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:58 AM, george_deforest wrote: How to use a Mantra in Yoga Practice by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati http://www.swamij.com/mantra-use.htm this strikes me as a good un-biased overview, and btw,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should walk into many of the Mosques in Europe, America and India and hear for yourself, the Sermons and Probaganda these Imams and Clerics preach. Most of these Clerics openly speak of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultural history of vegetarianism

2007-01-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Pre-Civilisation days 10,000 years ago, Canibalism was rampant throughout the World. Tribes living in isolation were more likely to kill and eat anyone not a part of their tribe.

Re: [FairfieldLife] interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:58 AM, george_deforest wrote: How to use a Mantra in Yoga Practice by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati http://www.swamij.com/mantra-use.htm this strikes me as a good un-biased overview, and btw, TM manages to hit all the high points... confirming that

[FairfieldLife] Charlie Lutes on TM: The teaching is valid even if the master isn’t present.

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
As far as faith in the meditation was concerned, that really wasn't necessary. It didn't really call for faith. Suddenly, we were all experiencing more energy, and were calmer, peaceful and happier. In a nutshell, we were experiencing more bliss. The teaching was effective. Being around him,

[FairfieldLife] Charlie Lutes on Maharishi making money

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
People would always say that Maharishi was out in the world to make all the money he could. It boils down to how people see the world themselves. What is their motivation? By and large it is money. The basic motivation of mankind is money, gain, financial worth. And of course many said

[FairfieldLife] Did Mike Love initiate both G.H.W. Bush G.W. back in the 70's?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Psychology Today, May, 2001 by Robert Epstein Interview with Mike Love Recently, PT editor-in-chief Robert Epstein, Ph.D., traveled to Lake Tahoe, Nevada, and visited with Beach Boy Mike Love to talk above Love's long-time devotion to transcendental meditation. Wearing a flowered silk shirt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:58 AM, george_deforest wrote: How to use a Mantra in Yoga Practice by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati http://www.swamij.com/mantra-use.htm this strikes me as a good un-biased

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/23/07 11:09:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't get why when Ahmadinejad says the US and Israel will be destroyed, invariably someone misquotes him as saying Iran will destroy them. He has not said that-- at

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread cardemaister
What are the signs of an incorrect rising? They are many and they vary depending on the specific path kundalini takes. But a few would include obsessive or personality disorders which go away when one stops meditating but return when one continues, depression, fascination with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Brother?

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI The connection is slow to making it in effect impossible to view FFL in Europe. US servers seem to be okay but from Barry1's (hint) posting their European servers are still having problems. Not true. Today's

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread rmy108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 no_reply@ wrote: From the TM Free blog: Why TM is Dangerous and Blocks the Path to Liberation Meditate on any mantra long enough and you will awaken

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 1:10:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I agree! I saw a documentary called Obsession a few months ago which showed what the average person in the middle east sees on TV and it looked as hate filled as any Ku Klux Klan rally you could

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 1:10:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I agree! I saw a documentary called Obsession a few months ago which showed what the average person in the middle east sees on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 2:45:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think that the run-of-the-mill citizen sees most of that money? People tout the USA as being lop-sided in how its wealth is distributed, but I suspect that the oil-rich Middle East countries

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 2:45:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think that the run-of-the-mill citizen sees most of that money? People tout the USA as being lop-sided in how its wealth

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 2:45:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think that the run-of-the-mill citizen sees most of that money? People tout the USA as being lop-sided in how its wealth

Re: [FairfieldLife] Benjamin Creme

2007-01-28 Thread llundrub
Yep, he could fart gold bubbles with the best day dreamers. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Benjamin Creme I agree with Charlie Lutes. When I asked Ariel A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Mike Love initiate both G.H.W. Bush G.W. back in the 70's?

2007-01-28 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Psychology Today, May, 2001 by Robert Epstein Interview with Mike Love Recently, PT editor-in-chief Robert Epstein, Ph.D., traveled to Lake Tahoe, Nevada, and visited with Beach Boy Mike Love to talk above

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan] three states of living

2007-01-28 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@

[FairfieldLife] Re: interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:58 AM, george_deforest wrote: How to use a Mantra in Yoga Practice by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati http://www.swamij.com/mantra-use.htm this strikes me as a good un-biased overview, and btw,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Mike Love initiate both G.H.W. Bush G.W. back in the 70's?

2007-01-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
Jonathan Chadwick wrote: Did Mike Love initiate both G.H.W. Bush G.W. back in the 70's? Apparently so, and Al Gore as well. Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: pundit_moderator Date: 18 May 2006 12:37:04 -0700 Local: Thurs, May 18 2006 1:37 pm Subject: Re: Have some more Kool-Aid,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:41 PM, sparaig wrote: Leaving aside your implicit praising of 'Swami Rama (why the quotes, BTW?) There's some question as to whether or not he was really a swami. In fact it's known that the Swami has at least one son. Not to mention the fact the guy took sexual

[FairfieldLife] Yahoo's server is sick again

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
Just as a note for those who are compulsive about timestamps, it appears that Yahoo's server has another virus or is otherwise ill again. Yesterday it was down entirely for a couple of hours, to the point that you couldn't reply using the Web viewer, and today it seems that posts made using it are

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan] three states of living

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the TM Free blog: Why TM is Dangerous and Blocks the Path to Liberation [snip] Sound familiar anyone? Actually, no. Nothing about that resonates with my TM experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 no_reply@ wrote: From the TM Free blog: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a jerk! Whoever posted this, and other anti TM posts I've read on Fairfield Life, always have this, I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme

2007-01-28 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember being at a Charles Lutes meeting back in the 70s when the Benjamin Creme phenomena was really taking off and there was talk of the end of the world from his group. Nothing came of this prediction but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 3:15:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably not, but that is not OUR problem. That is the problem between the governments and their people. We can't dictate to a government how they spend their money, It's not *their* money we're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 3:22:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: individuals create their own wealth of which the government is supposed to take just enough to take care of government business and no more. Heh. So one someone steals from you , the government

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 1:10:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I agree! I saw a documentary called Obsession a few months ago which showed what the average person in the middle east sees

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba

2007-01-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Who cares what some astral being is telling Creme, esp since he's been wrong on all his predictions since the 70s. Yea, but he's accurately predicted 11 of the last 4 bear markets. Lurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 3:15:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably not, but that is not OUR problem. That is the problem between the governments and their people. We can't dictate to a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love ?

2007-01-28 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Jonathan, these are real interesting posts you are contributing. Thanks for coming on to FFL and posting them. This is about as simple as it gets said: ML: The history of mankind is a history of war. Think about the Protestants and the Catholics, or the Shiites and the Sunnis, or the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Comments at the bottom; --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the TM Free blog: Why TM is Dangerous and Blocks the Path to Liberation Meditate on any mantra long enough and you will awaken kundalini. Add some breathing exercises and some asanas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:25 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Vaj, Barry, and 'kalidevi' are all perfect examples of how the ego acts Actually, they're all the same person. Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 5:17:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What countries do you speak of that we have brought hell to? Afghanistan, or Iraq? Hell was already there long before we set foot there. The rest of the middle eastern countries, we have just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love ?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
I thought it was just great having Mike Love and Co. on campus in 1977-78. I remember one time in particular seeing Brian and Dennis Wilson in the lounge in Building 150 watching a Larry Holmes fight on television. I remember thinking – they are the only guys “on campus” with beards! But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 5:23:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We *prop up* those corrupt governments. That's one of the reasons why their people hate us. When we buy their oil, it becomes their money! When we give aid such as to the Palestinians, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember being at a Charles Lutes meeting back in the 70s when the Benjamin Creme phenomena was really taking off and there was talk of the end of the world from his group. Nothing came of this prediction but Lutes

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 5:23:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We *prop up* those corrupt governments. That's one of the reasons why their people hate us. When we buy their oil, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love ?

2007-01-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
Melinda was supernaturally hot. (of course Mike's choice in women would narrow the genetic pool a bit!) I remember her well. So out of place in guruville. She got me backstage tickets to see her dad in Iowa City. Did she go on to become a model? Eventually Mike scooped up one of the young

[FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question along to Fairfield Life: What criteria would convince you that someone you met was enlightened? Because I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: interesting article on generic mantra meditation for yoga students

2007-01-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:41 PM, sparaig wrote: Leaving aside your implicit praising of 'Swami Rama (why the quotes, BTW?) There's some question as to whether or not he was really a swami. In fact it's known that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 3:22:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: individuals create their own wealth of which the government is supposed to take just enough to take care of government business and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
Brilliant topic. I will weigh in by tomorrow after some thought. It goes to the core of all our beliefs about spirituality. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliant topic. I will weigh in by tomorrow after some thought. It goes to the core of all our beliefs about spirituality. Does it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme

2007-01-28 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: I remember being at a Charles Lutes meeting back in the 70s when the Benjamin Creme phenomena was really taking off and there was talk of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question along to Fairfield Life: What criteria would convince you that someone you met was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultural history of vegetarianism

2007-01-28 Thread Jason Spock
In the Pre-Civilisation days 10,000 years ago, Canibalism was rampant throughout the World. Tribes living in isolation were more likely to kill and eat anyone not a part of their tribe. Then as Settlements became more organised and defined, Human Sacrifices were rampant all over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question along to Fairfield Life: What

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: snip I think everyone here has misread Harris's viewpoints,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliant topic. I will weigh in by tomorrow after some thought. It goes to the core of all our beliefs about spirituality. I thought you didn't believe in enlightenment, period.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
If you have a term in your spiritual vocabulary enlightened, then yes I think it does. However, I am not a spiritual person, so I am happy to be corrected if this is not the case. I think most of the people here use the term with some sense of meaning and this is important to their epistemology.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
(BTW, this is the response to Mark that I posted a couple days ago, just showing up now.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Brilliant topic. I will weigh in by tomorrow after some thought. It goes to the core of all our beliefs about spirituality. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Brilliant topic. I will weigh in by tomorrow after some

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:25 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Vaj, Barry, and 'kalidevi' are all perfect examples of how the ego acts Actually, they're all the same person. And all of us are really Rick.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Do or do not. There is no try. Yoda. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question along to Fairfield

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Trying is the first step towards failure. Homer Simpson. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Before enlightenment, I chopped wood and carried water. After enlightenment, I chopped wood and carried water. Zen proverb. Laughter relieves us of superfluous energy which, if it remained unused, might become negative, that is, poison. Laughter is the antidote. Gurdjieff TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
I've been digging the Sam Harris discussion. I haven't had the time to be generative, but I have enjoyed checking in and seeing some detailed thoughts on his debate. I look forward to your definitions in this discussion. I do believe in different ways of people's functioning so I have to give

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:35 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:25 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Vaj, Barry, and 'kalidevi' are all perfect examples of how the ego acts Actually, they're all the same person. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2007, at 7:35 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:25 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Vaj, Barry, and 'kalidevi' are all perfect examples of how the ego acts Actually, they're all the same person. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 6:09:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wrong, I never said anybody had to be grateful to us for spending our money there or giving aid, That was the implication in context--that they were wrong to hate us because we were giving them all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love ?

2007-01-28 Thread bob_brigante
Just Say Om [This article from Time 27 July 2003 does seem to imply Gore does TM.]. Al Gore did learn TM, but he was not instructed by Mike Love (who ususually did initiations of famous people, so that the TM teacher was not overwhelmed by the celebrity of the initiate, and

[FairfieldLife] 'Bush Needs Deferment from Iraq'

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Gimbel
President Bush's father Bush senior is concerned; About the mental health of his son, as he is being attacked; And ridiculed throughout the world. Perhaps it is time for President Bush to step down. In the interest of the nation. With his 'Shock Awe', attack and destruction; Of Iraq,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the TM Free blog: Why TM is Dangerous and Blocks the Path to Liberation [snip] Sound familiar anyone? Actually, no. Nothing about that resonates with my TM

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