[FairfieldLife] Re: request for cardemaister

2007-10-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eki, i saw this durga yantra, covered in sanskrit; i am hoping you might translate for me? TIA! http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/coolpraks/durgayant.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Again, I think we're back to the issue of you not valuing I don't know and

[FairfieldLife] Re: request for cardemaister

2007-10-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: eki, i saw this durga yantra, covered in sanskrit; i am hoping you might translate for me? TIA!

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my perspective, it seems that the premise that God is doing all the doing has absolutely *zero* implications for behavior, including how one thinks. It's just a theoretical metaphysical point that's fun to play

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Again, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-21 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 10/20/07 6:41:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, do.rflex@ writes: He also fails to acknowledge that Congress isn't a 'Democratic'

[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 10/20/07 6:41:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, do.rflex@ writes:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread Vaj
On Oct 20, 2007, at 12:51 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I think we're back to the issue of you not valuing I don't know and both Curtis and I valuing it a lot. We find some of our inspiration *in* not knowing. You

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip This is one of my all-time favorite jokes. One person asks the other: What do you think is worse in our society today, the general level of

[FairfieldLife] Re: About the story The attentions of monks.

2007-10-21 Thread Duveyoung
Billy, Woo, nice dense writing. Good on ya. But, though I wrote it up as a romantic fable of sorts, don't you think that this story has something very important for all spiritual adherants to eventually get? It is one thing for the universe to suddenly make the monk robot sweep the woman up in

[FairfieldLife] TMr on top rated on YouTube

2007-10-21 Thread off_world_beings
TMr's voice on a top rated video on YouTube http://youtube.com/watch?v=wIIz0U5x6N0 OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip Again, I think we're back to the issue of you not valuing I don't know and both Curtis and I valuing it a lot. We find some of our inspiration *in* not knowing. You seem to be more inspired by the belief that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
T wrote: It seems that the main point of a rationalist atheist is, that he will not believe what cannot be proven. So his rationale is that he will only adopt a belief, if there is a proof. Thats his ethics. He believes in a reality that has to be proven. I was throughout the whole post referring

[FairfieldLife] Spiritual Jokes (was Re: Who is in control of our lives?)

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip This is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me: I think a perfectly rational atheist is as much a myth as a person who just believes everything. We are all a mix of mental abilities and this is necessary to live in the world. None of us just believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me,when I adopt a belief, I don't need a proof. Its therefore okay, if I'm 'wrong'. ... It seems that the main point of a rationalist atheist is, that he will not believe what cannot be proven. So his rationale is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About the story The attentions of monks.

2007-10-21 Thread billy jim
Yep, it is a nice story and your telling is much richer than most I have heard. I certainly agree with you about its value for every/any one since we all tend to carry rules-based social conduct as an interpretive register. And I would agree that such a social syndrome leads us to perpetuate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
My sense is that the appeal or lack thereof of a particular belief comes first, and evaluation second; and that the evaluation is designed to reinforce or reject the belief on the basis of whether it does or does not have appeal to the individual. When we reject a long-held belief, it's

[FairfieldLife] Kasparov - Chess Master - for President of Russia

2007-10-21 Thread off_world_beings
Gary Kasparov runs against Putin: Awesome interview: http://youtube.com/watch?v=LQYyPooETcI OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's this suspending the need for further proof thing that interests me in all these conversations lately about knowing. It's all well and good to say that each knowing just reveals a new mystery, Oops. Looks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
But there is a huge vast sliding scale of probabilistic hierarchy and ranking of beliefs and disbeliefs. Excellent addition to the discussion New, probability ranking. That is closer to how we really live with our belief disbelief continuum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-21 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/20/07 5:31:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/20/07 6:41:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also fails to acknowledge that Congress isn't a 'Democratic' Congress. Sixty votes are required to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, your comment (below) seems very right on to me. Similarly, do you think that your chronic criticism of Barry might be related as much to something about his personality or style that really rankles you as much

[FairfieldLife] Re: request for cardemaister

2007-10-21 Thread george_deforest
eki, thank you for giving it a try; if it is too difficult, just forget about it; i only was curious, no other purpose. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george.deforest@ wrote: eki, i saw this durga yantra, covered in sanskrit; i am hoping you might translate for me? TIA!

[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You whine and complain about Republican obstructionism now and say they are standing in the way of the will of the people when Democrats have done the very same thing since '94. Nope. The Republicans are doing it *far

[FairfieldLife] Re: request for cardemaister

2007-10-21 Thread george_deforest
t3rinity wrote: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/coolpraks/durgayant.jpg The center-hexagram contains a quite known Chamunda mantra: 'Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vichhe' 'Om Aim hrim klim' being in the center and the sylables starting from 'Cha' at the bottom triangle clockwise

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread new . morning
Using a sliding scale probabilistic belief system (instead of a dichotomous I believe vs I don't believe facilitates regular if not constant updating and comparison of strength of belief. Lots of little incremental, easy updates -- not some HUGE a BIG decision like atheist or believer. If one is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sense is that the appeal or lack thereof of a particular belief comes first, and evaluation second; and that the evaluation is designed to reinforce or reject the belief on the basis of whether it does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
Snip ME: To give a personal example, my POV shift on belief in God happened when I went from assuming its reality to asking the question, Why do I believe? I had reasons, but I had not really examined them in the direction of objectivity. Judy: What triggered your asking that question?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I guess you never grew up with a strong belief in God did you? Nope. Still don't have one, at least in the kind of God most people believe in. (At one point when I was still very young I remember asking my

[FairfieldLife] My latest trikking video -- and a new disease.

2007-10-21 Thread Duveyoung
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nLGNNX9ZqDE Is it trollish that I post this here? Probably, but I love the smell of Shemp cookin' on the barbie. On another level, it's not spamming on my part, cuz I'm completely able to defend trikking as a spiritual experience. Now here's a concept: no one here

[FairfieldLife] Re: My latest trikking video -- and a new disease.

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Right now, I'm, like, standing up on my chair and applauding whenever Judy rips Pred a new one. Sigh. And, now watch, she'll write that in no way is she ripping anything -- just clarifying is all. Hee hee. Who's

[FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-21 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: snip You whine and complain about Republican obstructionism now and say they are standing in the way of the will of the people when Democrats have done the

[FairfieldLife] Re: My latest trikking video -- and a new disease.

2007-10-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
Now here's a concept: no one here has yet to get a Trikke, and though I've waxed as eloquent as possible about the thrills of the experience, my words have not gotten to whatever needs getting to in order for a purchase to have happened. I came close to getting one about two years ago. They look

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...But the deeper part of me wanted to face the truth as I saw it no matter where it lead and that part won. Uups,Deeper part, Truth ... don't tell that to Barry ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread TurquoiseB
What triggered your asking that question? ME: It was after I had dropped out of TM. I was doing an epistemological overhaul on myself, and a friend who had shared my journey out of TM told me that he had taped a show on TV called the American Atheist with Madalyn O'Hair. I had no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Judy, your comment (below) seems very right on to me. Similarly, do you think that your chronic criticism of Barry might

[FairfieldLife] Re: My latest trikking video -- and a new disease.

2007-10-21 Thread Duveyoung
Torque the Pred? Unky Punky? The Pain in Spain I've been so enjoying your lastest summations of him, I'm ashamed of myself. ;-) And, yet, there you are psychocuddling with the atheists to an degree I cannot support. They're little coffee clutch chatter has been so telling about how

[FairfieldLife] Today: Vijaya Dashami - Victory Day

2007-10-21 Thread george_deforest
MAHARISHI YAGYA PERFORMANCES AROUND THE YEAR To Create Heaven On Earth In Everyone's Life Vijaya Dashami • Victory Day 21st October 2007 Vijaya Dashami Day to bring victory and success to one's undertakings `Victory Day' brings the nine days of Mother Divine toa glorious conclusion. When the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?

2007-10-21 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/21/07 12:05:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], MDi snip You whine and complain about Republican obstructionism now and say they are standing in the way of

[FairfieldLife] Re: My latest trikking video -- and a new disease.

2007-10-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
And, yet, there you are psychocuddling with the atheists to an degree I cannot support. They're little coffee clutch chatter has been so telling about how subtle they AREN'T when it comes to clarity about identification. This is your contribution to the discussion? clarity about identification?

[FairfieldLife] Identification and saturational clarity (My latest trikking video)

2007-10-21 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, Okay on your breaking rapport chiding -- I'll try harder/better/wiser. Yeah, I was cheap shotting atcha. BUT BUT BUT I've written soo much about identification. Okay, so, I get it. My posts are not convincing anyone, and since I don't claim enlightenment, then, of course, my

[FairfieldLife] Re: My latest trikking video -- and a new disease.

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torque the Pred? Unky Punky? The Pain in Spain I've been so enjoying your lastest summations of him, I'm ashamed of myself. ;-) And, yet, there you are psychocuddling with the atheists to an degree I

[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread biosoundbill
Bhairitu, I meant to ask you as you meditate with a longer mantra effortlessly,are you able to let go completely as in TM where the bija can become very faint,unclear, and barely recognizable.Are you able to allow a longer mantra to become very faint,unclear, and barely recognizable also?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's what happened back on alt.meditation.transcend- ental when Judy caught a whiff of me. One day I was just cruising along, having a good time posting my random thoughts, and then suddenly there she was, IN MY

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread Angela Mailander
Is there any evidence of this? Folks have measured the length of sojourn in TC? Wouldn't that also depend on the individual, on length of practice and predisposition, to name just a few of the possible variables? a Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About $4000.

[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then, what's the difference? the transcendence is the transcendent, right? I think the point is that some are trying to say that what many TMers think is the transcdenant isn't really. I do not choose to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread Vaj
In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the beginning...and it's not truly transcendental consciousness, it's merely a thought-free state. It is however an important sign that practice is ready to go to another level, one where the

[FairfieldLife] Re: My latest trikking video -- and a new disease.

2007-10-21 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it just drives me kookoo Yes...we know. to agree with one person one day and hate their ideas the next. Schizo? Sigh. And, now watch, she'll write that in no way is she ripping anything -- just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-21 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, docu1000 docu1000@ wrote: Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3% 20 ). I wonder what Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the beginning...and it's not truly transcendental consciousness, it's merely a thought-free state. It is however an important

[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the beginning...and it's not truly transcendental consciousness, it's merely a thought-free state. It is however an important

[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the beginning...and it's not truly transcendental

[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is

[FairfieldLife] Any chance rhesus macaques could survive Washington DC's climate?

2007-10-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071021/ap_on_re_as/india_monkey_attack NEW DELHI - Wild monkeys attacked a senior government official who then fell from a balcony at his home and died Sunday, media reported. ADVERTISEMENT New Delhi Deputy Mayor S.S. Bajwa was rushed to a hospital after the attack

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread Vaj
On Oct 21, 2007, at 9:41 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the beginning...and it's not truly transcendental consciousness, it's merely a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread Vaj
On Oct 21, 2007, at 9:43 PM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the beginning...and it's not truly transcendental consciousness, it's merely a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread Vaj
On Oct 21, 2007, at 10:03 PM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread Bhairitu
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Angela Mailander wrote: Is there any evidence of this? Folks have measured the length of sojourn in TC? Wouldn't that also depend on the individual, on length of practice and predisposition, to name just a few of the possible variables? a

[FairfieldLife] Re: I think that the basic TM technique is more powerful than the advanced techn

2007-10-21 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 21, 2007, at 9:43 PM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: In the Hindu yogic tradition I practiced in, the gap or transcendent in TM speak is only just the

[FairfieldLife] Colbert/Stewart 2008

2007-10-21 Thread m2smart4u2000
http://www.colbertnation.com/ http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2209521538 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=118579611 I love the banner Stewart/Colbert... it's time to change the sheets Maybe this will be a re-take on the Jessie Ventura story.