[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Karma is what tradition would state, not stress. Actually, stress in MMY's lingo refers to samskaras, [restoring snipped portion] impressions left in the mind of past experiences (in this or previous lives). In the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm hardly the only person to have made this observation (and I made it independently, before learning that others had made it as well, just on the strength of the similarities). It seems rather strange, Vaj, that

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Robert Gimbel wrote: Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was considered to be a whore, and I'm not sure that anyone would respect a Rabbi who

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Robert Gimbel wrote: Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Robert, again no disrespect intended, but you should get a few books on the Bible and read up before you spout off. There is not ONE WORD in the Bible that characterizes Mary Magdalene as a whore. Not one. This is

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I know that many people don't like to consider this, and find some comfort or inspiration in believing that Christ was NOT human, and that he was somehow divine and the literal Son Of God. Actually, Christian

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times, that the TM myth of physical stress release from the physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress is

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip There are two people here: you mention Mary of Magdala, This is a different person than Mary Magdalene. No, same lady. Magdalene means of Magdala (just as Nazarene means of Nazareth). From the New Testament,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times, that the TM myth of physical stress

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I know that many people don't like to consider this, and find some comfort or inspiration in believing that Christ was NOT human, and that he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread Vaj
On May 28, 2007, at 11:50 AM, cardemaister wrote: On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times, that the TM myth of physical stress release from the physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress is being

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The word saMskaara is actually almost the same as Sanskrit in, well, Sanskrit -- which is saMskRta. That word, saM-s-kRta, consists of the perfect participle of the root kR (to do, etc), with the prefix sam

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I know that many people don't like to consider this, and find some comfort or

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread tanhlnx
--No need to separate out one body from another. It's a package deal. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 28, 2007, at 11:50 AM, cardemaister wrote: On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This just verifies what I've stated here

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Uh, with all due respect, the only thing Jesus has ever been accused of, and in some of the Gospels excised from the Bible, no less, was that he was

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-27 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was considered to be a whore, and I'm not sure that anyone would respect a Rabbi who married a whore. You remember that in that period of history, her fate would have been death, if Jesus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2007, at 6:36 PM, qntmpkt wrote: ---Vaj, I know you're heavily into tradition but there's something called new knowledge; And you feel the blossoming of new knowledge isn't part of or hasn't happened in a tradition before? There's little new under the sun. Tradition is merely

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-27 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-27 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Gimbel wrote: Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was considered to be a whore, and I'm not sure that anyone would respect a Rabbi who married a whore. You remember that in that period of history, her fate

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread qntmpkt
--Question below: did I stray from TM while (during the period) Muktananda dug his fingers into my eyeballs, giving me Shaktipat? Ans: Nope...not straying, just continuing my overall research into various Gurus. I've always practiced TM since 1967 but wanted to confirm if there was anything

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ambition (among other things), is to find out what makes ordinary people -i.e. not on the Spiritual path - tick in terms of their reluctance to practice any type of Spiritual Sadhana. For the most part, I blame

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When reading the following passage from Swami Muktananda's Satsang with Baba, Volume III (August 18, 1972, page 122), I thought that it was another explanation of the mechanics of stress release; that is, that

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Perhaps a dazzing display of Sidhis would turn such people on. What do you think? snip Wow! I think you should consider writing a book on your various experiences with all these paths and gurus. It might reach a

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread matrixmonitor
---It's quite true that many people not doing any Sadhana are highly evolved; but it's also true (imo) that they can be MORE highly evolved by taking up some type of meditation practice, or perhaps chanting.. Your opinion differs from that of MMY - since he clearly, at one time believe in and

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-26 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: When reading the following passage from Swami Muktananda's Satsang with Baba, Volume III (August 18, 1972, page 122), I thought that it

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. And Bill Clinton brutally raped Juanita Broderick. So what? Whether it's true

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 24, 2007, at 8:53 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: When reading the following passage from Swami Muktananda's Satsang with Baba, Volume III (August 18, 1972, page 122), I thought that it was another explanation of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 24, 2007, at 8:53 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: When reading the following passage from Swami Muktananda's Satsang with Baba, Volume III (August 18, 1972, page 122), I thought that it was another explanation of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times, that the TM myth of physical stress release from the physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress is being released is in the pranic body or vajra body. It is the pranic body

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times, that the TM myth of physical stress release from the physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times, that the TM myth of physical stress release from the physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2007, at 10:25 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: utterly fallacious and misleading? Methinks you doth protest too much. It's just an innoculous way of saying the same thing to make it palatable to another audience. Methinks thou art brainwashed. Sorry, they are not the same thing, despite

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread qntmpkt
---Vaj, I know you're heavily into tradition but there's something called new knowledge; but ultimately, the idea is to seek the truth, whether from tradition, authorities, Scriptures, one's own experience, heresay evidence;...better yet, everything together with one's own experience at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. Yes, so

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When reading the following passage from Swami Muktananda's Satsang with Baba, Volume III (August 18, 1972, page 122), I thought that it was another explanation of the mechanics of stress release; that is, that

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-24 Thread qntmpkt
---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. Looks like a mismatch between speech and action! He initiated me into Shaktipat in 1980. (dug his fingers into my eyeballs and a brilliant image of himself

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. Yes, so I've heard. Still a nice insight, and I appreciate Shemp's posting it.