Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:41 PM, wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit into the lawsuit against MUM brought by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: I could easily have been guilty of the same negligence Joel Wysong displayed while watching the guy. I suspect he was in the other room

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: I could easily have been guilty of the same negligence Joel Wysong

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:07 AM, authfriend wrote: I don't know Joel, but it's very possible that he's like some people here and convinced that he was not the doer in this whole scenario and thus bears no responsibility for it whatsoever. Amazing. Barry's *still* getting not the doer

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: PErhaps because they DID screw up, to some extent? What perhaps? It

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:07 AM, authfriend wrote: I don't know Joel, but it's very possible that he's like some people here and convinced that he was not the doer in this whole scenario and thus bears no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 1:50 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just *think* how many similar tragedies within the TM movement will get to come out in this lawsuit. Ya got the suicides on TM courses, ya got the guy burning himself to death after having been locked away in a basement room. Not

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: PErhaps because they DID screw up, to some extent? What perhaps? It

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: He

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'd start saying bye-bye to MUM if I were you. If they lose a multi-million-dollar lawsuit in addition to having no students, I'd bet that Fairfield is

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'd start saying bye-bye to MUM if I were you. If they lose a multi-million-dollar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 9:48 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) it would be very sad for Fairfield if MUM went away, don't you agree? Not really. Might be good for it. Something more interesting may take over the university. Fairfield is well established as an eclectic spiritual community

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
Rick sounds like the Bush Administration, wanting to liberate subject peoples. Has it occurred to anyone on this board that people who live at MUM might actually enjoy the experience? That's why they live there! May heaven save us from self-appointed liberators. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'd start saying

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick sounds like the Bush Administration, wanting to liberate subject peoples. Has it occurred to anyone on this board that people who live at MUM might actually enjoy the experience? That's why they live there! May

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that we know more than they do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on campus about why they are there, you will get almost as many answers as there are people. Everyone has their own reasons. Instead of talking about people needing

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread anonyff
The bulk of the people who have chosen to remain in FF, after pretty much having severed their ties to the MIU/MUM way of life are anything but Plain Folks. Following Lady Saints (not that there's anything wrong with that), doing fire yagyas and the like, and the myriad host of other types of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 10:51 AM, feste37 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that we know more than they do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on campus about why they are there, you will get almost as many answers as there are people. Everyone has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Sure, it's just great, Feste. When are you moving there? :) Sal On Mar 14, 2006, at 10:23 AM, feste37 wrote: Rick sounds like the Bush Administration, wanting to liberate subject peoples. Has it occurred to anyone on this board that peopleĀ  who live at MUM might actually enjoy the

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that we know more than they do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on campus about why they are there, you will get almost as many answers as there are people.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread anonyff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the news for those who would go into an orgy of delight if MUM folded is . . . it ain't gonna happen. For those who live in Fairfield, go take a look at the new construction going on there. MUM is in a growth phase.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
I got a good laugh out of this, especially your comment, Since the advent of Stapathya Veda the place reminds me of a Madame Blavatsky convention, a bunch of aged dour looking people. Have you been to Annapurna dining hall recently, Anon? I think you might be surprised at what you find there

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: And the news for those who would go into an orgy of delight if MUM folded is . . . it ain't gonna happen. For those who live in Fairfield, go take a

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The campus itself went stapathya Vedic and now there are like 100 students occupying a 200 acre campus, 2 acres per student. It's a ghost town, soon it will resemble a Hindu Ghost Town, nice buildings run by skinny,

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that we know more than they do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on campus

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit into the lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The suit draws a bigger line

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/06 9:41 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one person is to blame for this tragedy. For example, I imagine that the parents of Sem wish, in retrospect, thatthey had never let him go far from home to go to college when he had a history (didn't he?) of mental illness.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/06 9:41 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one person is to blame for this tragedy. For example, I imagine that the parents of Sem wish, in retrospect, thatthey had never let him go far from

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit into the lawsuit against

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit into the lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The suit draws a bigger line to include other TM organizations besides MUM; the

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/06 9:41 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one person is to blame for this tragedy. For example, I imagine that the parents of Sem wish, in retrospect, thatthey had never let him go far from

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit into the lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He should get counselling. I'm serious. If Joel is feeling any amount of guilt it should only be to the degree that it was his responsibility to follow the code of conduct as published by the university: that is, that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He should get counselling. I'm serious. If Joel is feeling any amount of guilt it should only be to the degree that it was his responsibility

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/06 10:32 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A guy got scratched in the face with a pen in a scuffle. Do you believe that the prof was negligent in turning his back and taking a shower? Obviously, he didn't believe the guy to be any kind of threat. Didn't the scratch require 7

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/06 10:32 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A guy got scratched in the face with a pen in a scuffle. Do you believe that the prof was negligent in turning his back and taking a shower?

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit into the lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The suit draws a bigger

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/06 10:32 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A guy got scratched in the face with a pen in a scuffle. Do you believe that the prof was negligent in turning his back and taking a shower? Obviously,

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could easily have been guilty of the same negligence Joel Wysong displayed while watching the guy. I suspect he was in the other room meditating when Sem stole the knife and left his house. Then he sat and ate

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: PErhaps because they DID screw up, to some extent? What perhaps? It was a clear case of negligence. A guy got scratched in the face with a

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He should get counselling. I'm serious. If Joel is feeling any amount of guilt it should only be to the degree that it was his responsibility

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: He should get counselling. I'm serious. If Joel is feeling any

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and this is where the negligence occurred...and we all know why it occurred: the TMO and MUM did not want to inflate crime figures for a TMing environment that would disprove the Maharishi Effect. Is there

[FairfieldLife] Re MUM lawsuit

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
Someone asked me to post: Re MUM lawsuit Orthey will have to dip into the finances assoc w/ MMY in India...which MMY won't give up a pennyso I will predict.. are you ready are you sure. they will start a donation program to raise money for the legal defense