Thee could wonder that
were there a theocratic municipality election held in the larger meditating
community if these TM Rajas, their TM king and prime minister could survive a
confidence vote. While they're not doing so well at gathering folks back to
meditate on the one hand it's
Practically, they are still a long way from reconciling with their old
meditators and succeeding here in Fairfield.
For instance, most people in town here likely never been to a Movement yagya or
anything puja with the pundits even up in Vedic City. Of course, you'd have to
have had a current
Thee could wonder that
were there a theocratic municipality election held in the larger meditating
community if these TM Rajas, their TM king and prime minister could survive a
confidence vote. While they're not doing so well at gathering folks back to
meditate on the one hand it's gotten to
Maharishi restored the crucial understanding and proper practice that the Vedic
mantras should be projected from the Para (Transcendental) level of speech,
where the link between sound and formbetween desire and fulfillment of
desireis enormously powerful.
While Yogic
Maharishi's National Yagya Program is a powerful application of the technology
of Yagya on a national scale to prevent problems and improve the fortune of an
entire nation. National Yagyas involve especially large groups of Maharishi
Vedic Pandits located at the Brahmasthan (the geographic
These National Yagyas continue over many days or even weeks, depending on the
size of the desired effect and the magnitude of the problem being averted or
defused,
Maharishi's National Yagya Program is a powerful application of the
technology of Yagya on a national scale to prevent
Maharishi personally engineered this most powerful application of Yagya to
produce the largest possible impact on an entire nation. Maharishi trained tens
of thousands of Vedic Pandits in order to achieve these massive results, and he
built a beautiful campus at the Brahmasthan of India to
Today, the United States TM organization (Maharishi Foundation USA), in
conjunction with the Brahmananda Saraswati Foundation USA, created by Maharishi
in 2008 for this very purpose, and in collaboration with our sister
organizations in India, is directly overseeing the highly professional,
Today, the United States TM organization (Maharishi Foundation USA), in
conjunction with the Brahmananda Saraswati Foundation USA, created by
Maharishi in 2008 for this very purpose, and in collaboration with our sister
organizations in India, is directly overseeing the highly
We especially recommend giving
on a recurring monthly basis
to perpetuate these great
blessings for the world.
Today, the United States TM organization (Maharishi Foundation USA), in
conjunction with the Brahmananda Saraswati Foundation USA, created by
Maharishi in 2008 for this
Your monthly donations will not only bring profound benefits to our country,
they will also provide vital support for the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in the
U.S. and India.
We especially recommend giving
on a recurring monthly basis
to perpetuate these great
blessings for the world.
Buck, do you support this National Yagya Program yourself? Do you contribute
money to it? Or are you relaying this information more tongue-in-cheek than
serious?
***
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
We especially recommend giving
on a recurring monthly
Marek, I'm just a guy on the street but I can tell you this is sea-changing
that also looks like it comes with an under-tow. Of course, this being
FairfieldLife and more essentially about Fairfield and TM here, these memos
should be highly noteworthy right now to anybody living here in
Marek, I'm just a guy on the street but I can tell you this is sea-changing
that also looks like it comes with an under-tow. Of course, this being
FairfieldLife and more essentially about Fairfield and TM here, these memos
should be highly noteworthy right now to anybody living here in
The TM Rajas seem mighty bent on staking the movement on this bet now.
Marek, I'm just a guy on the street but I can tell you this is sea-changing
that also looks like it comes with an under-tow. Of course, this being
FairfieldLife and more essentially about Fairfield and TM here,
Om, certainly does seem this is the pet project now of the few Rajas.
Seems also it's kind of being foist on folks.
The TM Rajas seem mighty bent on staking the movement on this bet now.
Marek, I'm just a guy on the street but I can tell you this is
sea-changing that also looks
the worry could also be that they might need to figure things out better with
the meditating community here before they launch themselves (and us)
logistically off again. It's getting to be a pretty small circle inside there
to be 'letting' money on this scale from whoever is left standing.
Yep, well if the BODirectors of the TM-movement's SBSTrust or the BOTrustees of
the university ever wanted to do something really productive with the
meditating community, they proly should ought to 'retire' the University
President and give that position and its job to someone who has a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
Here's another idea -
open up a separate
place in Ffld to do Program
(Probation Hall) for all those
banned people who would really
like to meditate in the Domes.
Let them meditate and contribute
to world peace etc,
Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM
Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together.
Seems saddening to see that the dome numbers with the meditator community are
not working out for the tru-believers and that the Invincibility courses
So, are the Rajas actually canceling the Invincibility courses?
And what exactly are Invincibility Courses - the courses you can sign up for to
round in the Domes that Settle helps underwrite?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Is a shame to see the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM
Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together.
Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their
own,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an
end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers
of meditators
Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the
folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this.
Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program (Probation
Hall) for all those banned people who would really like to meditate in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an
end
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM
Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM
Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together.
No need to feel sorry. When everything is moved to India you will be sure to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the
folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this.
Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program
(Probation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the
folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this.
Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program
(Probation
Xenophaneros Anartaxius said:
What we see here on the forum is people that
are in various stages of breaking away from that misguided logic, and trying to
come to terms with existence as it is, not as we think it ought to be, or more
particularly, as someone else thinks we ought to think it to be.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the
folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of
Maharishi's National Yagya Program is a powerful application of the technology
of Yagya on a national scale to prevent problems and improve the fortune of an
entire nation. National Yagyas involve especially large groups of Maharishi
Vedic Pandits located at the Brahmasthan (the geographic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Agreed, just as scientists have been able to extend the range of their senses
by invention, we need finer instrumentation, and a way to filter out the
grosser vibrations to be able to sense these other phenomena. By
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Agreed, just as scientists have been able to extend the range
of their senses by invention, we need finer instrumentation,
and a way to filter out the
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge
of positivity for the general well-being of society, Yagyas create a
very focused, concentrated influence of positivity designed to
neutralize specific threats. Like the threats that are looming
Today the United States TM® organization (Maharishi Foundation USA) is
launching this Maharishi National Yagya Program in a major way. In conjunction
with the Brahmananda Saraswati Foundation USA, we are directly overseeing the
highly professional, cost-efficient management of this program to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
This post is an epistemological field day! It brings up many questions about
how we can be confident about what we know.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
snip
There have been a number of large well-designed studies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
This post is an epistemological field day! It brings up many questions about
how we can be confident about what we know.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
This post is an epistemological field day! It brings up many questions about
how we can be confident about what we know.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
What I want to know is, to whom was Nabby addressing this
remark? It appeared to be in response to my follow-up
post quoted immediately above it. That seems unlikely, but
it also seems unlikely with regard to either
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
Many of these things/ideas will eventually hold up to scrutiny as you put it.
But it may take time. Like Maharishi suggested it could take 400 years.
Awesome, then sign me up for 50 yagyas and I'll pay in 400 years.
If the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
What I want to know is, to whom was Nabby addressing this
remark? It appeared to be in response to my follow-up
post quoted immediately above it. That
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
What I want to know is, to whom was Nabby addressing this
remark? It appeared
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
snip
There have been a number of large well-designed studies
recently, such as the Templeton study, of 'intercessionary
prayer', which
...Yagyas and intercessory prayer are different but they both seem to rely on
'action at a distance' through some kind of non-physical intervention via the
human mind and experience. The philosophical conundrum here is how does
something that is non-physical affect a physical entity. A
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
...Yagyas and intercessory prayer are different but they both seem to rely
on 'action at a distance' through some kind of non-physical intervention via
the human mind and experience. The philosophical conundrum here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@
could be. I'm willing to go either way. I recall I was predisposed to finding
esoteric bits in spiritual books at the time, and found precious few in
Maharishi's stuff. Having said that, I read the book in 1977...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
...Yagyas and intercessory prayer are different but they both seem to rely
on 'action at a distance' through some kind of non-physical
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
...Yagyas and intercessory prayer are different but
Seems saddening to see that the dome numbers with the meditator community are
not working out for the tru-believers and that the Invincibility courses should
be supplanted and let go this way. The potential was so great, except the
Rajas could not bring themselves to figure out a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
snip
There have been a number of large
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Houston, we detect a Yagya gap.
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge
of positivity for the general well-being of society, Yagyas create a
very focused, concentrated influence of positivity designed to
neutralize specific threats. Like
Om,
Mission Control,
does this mark the end of the group Yogic-Flying Invincible Programs?
Houston, we detect a Yagya gap.
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge
of positivity for the general well-being of society, Yagyas create a
In the dark of the winter night, just
what is Sweden doing buying so many Maharishi National Yagyas?
Om,
Mission Control,
does this mark the end of the group Yogic-Flying Invincible Programs?
Houston, we detect a Yagya gap.
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a
In the dark of the winter night, just
what is Sweden doing buying so many Maharishi National Yagyas?
Yep, those dang hegemonic Swedes. Something is up. Keep an eye on them.
Om,
Mission Control,
does this mark the end of the group Yogic-Flying Invincible Programs?
Germany right now is way ahead of the Brits and Yanks in National Yagyas.
In the dark of the winter night, just
what is Sweden doing buying so many Maharishi National Yagyas?
Yep, those dang hegemonic Swedes. Something is up. Keep an eye on them.
Om,
Mission Control,
Winston Churchill counseled for the Brits to stick with the Americans, there's
a sound place now in this new and shifting world order for an old alliance of
National Yagya. East against west.
Germany right now is way ahead of the Brits and Yanks in National Yagyas.
In the
And with this announcement we enter the realm of the testable. Let's break it
down:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge of
positivity for the general well-being of society,
Actually sidhis themselves included many testable behaviors. But that didn't
Although your arguments for scientific validation are valid, I am not sure it
makes a lot of difference whether the sutras and yagyas are provable
scientifically. While I can see Maharishi's attempts to bridge science and yoga
as necessary to bring his message to the West initially, now that so
Good stuff Buck. The most powerful way to help the family, community, town,
city, state and country is to establish oneself in liberation.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed
Although I did use some scientific terms because I believe that this kind of
claim could meet such a threshold in principle, it makes just as much sense
through the perspective in this sentence:
practical and solitary nature of the TM practice eventually won out.
You felt results so you
Yeah, I can see the marketing problem it presents for the TMO if they discount
scientific or demonstrable results. Since the TMO has always set scientific
validity as a key objective, wrt marketing and fundraising, it remains an
ongoing tussle for the TMO between putting enough scientific
I thought your confidence in TM was in the practical results you have received
not devotion. You have been the poster child here for not just believing in TM
but for people to practice it long enough that they get the results you have,
right?
So it is not hoisting the movement on its own
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
Although I did use some scientific terms because I believe that this kind of
claim could meet such a threshold in principle, it makes just as much sense
through the perspective in this sentence:
practical
Maybe one day the TMO will schism into two sects, the rationalists and the
bhaktis, each will seize a Dome, and its on!
Each would teach the same basic technique, same puja, only the atmosphere would
be quite different for each sect at initiation time:
Rationalist TM:
The TM Center is in an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
I thought your confidence in TM was in the practical results you have
received not devotion. You have been the poster child here for not just
believing in TM but for people to practice it long enough that
I thought your confidence in TM was in the practical results you have received
not devotion. You have been the poster child here for not just believing in TM
but for people to practice it long enough that they get the results you have,
right?
Hi Curtis, Just to clarify, it is hard for me to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
I thought your confidence in TM was in the practical results you have
received not devotion. You have been the poster child
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 01/15/2012 04:58 AM, Buck wrote:
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge
of positivity for the general well-being of society, Yagyas create a
very focused,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
Big success for the TMO, but difficult to understand for souls dictated by
their intelligence, they simply do not understand the connection.
I couldn't agree more, intelligence is the biggest block to buying into the
On 01/15/2012 11:02 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On 01/15/2012 04:58 AM, Buck wrote:
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge
of positivity for the general well-being of society,
Thank you!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
On 01/15/2012 04:58 AM, Buck wrote:
All area Satsangs:
While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
Big success for the TMO, but difficult to understand for souls
dictated by their intelligence, they simply do not understand
the
*Very* funny. Well done.
Someone has put up two pictures on the wall, one is Maharishi
and next to him Jimi Hendrix.
LOL. Excellent.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Maybe one day the TMO will schism into two sects, the rationalists and the
bhaktis,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
snip
There have been a number of large well-designed studies
recently, such as the Templeton study, of 'intercessionary
prayer', which seem a lot like yagyas. These studies failed
to show any effect.
Is
Ha-ha! It was fun!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
*Very* funny. Well done.
Someone has put up two pictures on the wall, one is Maharishi
and next to him Jimi Hendrix.
LOL. Excellent.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
snip
There have been a number of large well-designed studies
recently, such as the Templeton study, of 'intercessionary
prayer', which
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
snip
There have been a number of large well-designed studies
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