date:20050909

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> 
> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> > Gillam" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> > Gillam" 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or
> > karmic 
> > ramifications 
> > > > > of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money
> > for their own 
> > > > > purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where
> > entire nations are 
> > > > > subject to instant karma, shouldn't the
> > nephews be burning 
> > > > > in hell or something? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > If they're not suffering, can we presume that
> > (1) karma isn't 
> > > > instant, or (2) they didn't take the money?
> > > > 
> > > > And the evidence for this is...
> > > 
> > > What is the evidence that MMY's nephews have made
> > off with 
> > > money? I'm not sure what you're asking, Lawson.
> > Sorry.
> > 
> > Yes, what is the evidence that they made off with
> > the money?
> 
> Ah, the fact that millions has been raised over the
> last 12 years for various projects, AND THERE IS
> NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT? Where the hell did it go? You
> can pretend that everything is okay, but when you take
> your head out of the AofE cake you realize that a con
> game is going on. I know it's unpleasant, but that is
> exactly what is  going on.





Bottom line: at the very least, you get to ask these very pertinent 
questions...and demand an answer.

It's not supposed to be a cult.  There is SUPPOSED to be 
accountability...




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread Peter

--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> Gillam" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> Gillam" 
> > > > 
> > > > Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or
> karmic 
> ramifications 
> > > > of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money
> for their own 
> > > > purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where
> entire nations are 
> > > > subject to instant karma, shouldn't the
> nephews be burning 
> > > > in hell or something? 
> > > > 
> > > > If they're not suffering, can we presume that
> (1) karma isn't 
> > > instant, or (2) they didn't take the money?
> > > 
> > > And the evidence for this is...
> > 
> > What is the evidence that MMY's nephews have made
> off with 
> > money? I'm not sure what you're asking, Lawson.
> Sorry.
> 
> Yes, what is the evidence that they made off with
> the money?

Ah, the fact that millions has been raised over the
last 12 years for various projects, AND THERE IS
NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT? Where the hell did it go? You
can pretend that everything is okay, but when you take
your head out of the AofE cake you realize that a con
game is going on. I know it's unpleasant, but that is
exactly what is  going on.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > > 
> > > The Luck of the World
> > > 
> > > Global Press Conference,  24.8.05
> > > 
> > > MAHARISHI:  
> > > 
> > > We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are
> > > trying
> > > to gather (big groups)
> > > very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t
> > > allow
> > > us to light the big
> > > lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep
> > > darkness
> > > simply disappears. It
> > > is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But
> > > still I am hopeful. I am
> > > continuing...
> > 
> > Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE
> > MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG
> > GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. I love you
> > MMY, but you're a big ass con artist and crook. Let's
> > call a spade a spade, okay?
> 
> I remain unconvinced of this.

  The details may not be correct but the eternal question here is not
about enlightenment, but where are the pundits, the groups of 8000,
and how come King Tony doesn't live in the house that he needed in
such a hurry in Iowa? Where are the TM Mall Stores? Why aren't the
full time recerts getting paid? Long ago there were enough dollars for
the 1st 3 of these items and not only haven't they happened - they
haven't even been attempted. Instead we have a teaching organization
that doesn't teach with 20,000 former teachers, a real estate
business, and the 'Luck of the world'.  What more do you need? 

JohnY

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

Sounds like a species in Star Wars...

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> >  I suspect it's one of his
> > quasi-gnomic statements
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> I love this. "Quasi-gnomic."

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread lurkernomore20002000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> No one has ever said karma is instant that I recall hearing,

snip 

Well ain't that sweet.  Dissing John L. when he doesn't have a chance 
to respond.

lurk





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[FairfieldLife] Former press secretary for MMY has big plans

2005-09-09 Thread Stokes and Barbara Dickins






Jakob von Uexkull
Biography & Resources


  From what is enlightenment?

Jakob von Uexkull is the president of the World Future Council 
Initiative, a forum for debate and action which aims for a global 
membership of wise thinkers, practical pioneers, and young leaders. 
He is also the founder and chair of the Right Livelihood Award 
Foundation, which he started in 1980 when he sold his holdings of 
rare postage stamps to provide an initial endowment of about one 
million U.S. dollars. The Right Livelihood Award was conceived as an 
alternative to the Nobel Prize, and is intended to "recognize the 
efforts of those who are tackling [the great challenges facing 
humanity] directly, coming up with practical answers to such 
challenges as the pollution of our air, soil, and water, the danger 
of nuclear war, the abuse of basic human rights, the destitution and 
misery of the poor, and the over-consumption and spiritual poverty of 
the wealthy." The Award exists to strengthen the positive social 
forces that its recipients represent and to provide the support and 
inspiration needed to make them a model for the future.

Von Uexkull is also the cofounder of TOES - The Other Economic Summit 
(1984) and founder of The Estonian Renaissance Award (1993). He is a 
former trustee of the New Economics Foundation (London), patron of 
Friends of the Earth International, and a member of the Global 
Commission to Fund the United Nations. He has served on the Board of 
Greenpeace, Germany. As a Minister of the European Parliament 
(1984-89), he served on the Political Affairs Committee and the 
Science and Technology Committee. He is currently on the Council of 
Governance of Transparency International.


organizational affiliations

Right Livelihood Award Foundation
http://www.rightlivelihood.org/

TM is a discipline he continues to practice to this day.  "It takes 
away a roughness, develops my sense of inner peace.  And it has given 
me a conviction that we are part of a larger whole." 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> > What is the evidence that MMY's nephews have made off with 
> > money? I'm not sure what you're asking, Lawson. Sorry.
> 
> Yes, what is the evidence that they made off with the money?

Truthfully, I have seen none. All I have to go by is the fact 
that, despite millions being donated to establish pundit 
groups, Maharishi seems to have little or nothing to show 
for it.

In other words, the evidence that the money has been 
taken is simply that there is no money.

My remarks played off Peter Sutphen's, who said Maharishi 
took the money. 

> Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL
> ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR
> PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY
> GOTTEN TOGETHER.

But the scuttlebutt I've picked up -- and that's all it is, 
scuttlebutt -- is that his nephews control the dough and 
keep a generous vig for their trouble.

This, or simple mismanagement, is what sent Earl Kaplan 
over the edge, if the posts here are to be believed.

 - Patrick Gillam

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[FairfieldLife] Desperately poor cannot adapt to emergencies

2005-09-09 Thread shukra69


Parts of the U.S.A. are as Poor as the Third 
World

"For half a century the US has seen a 
sustained decline in the number of children 
who die before their fifth birthday. - But 
since 2000 this trend has been reversed. The 
infant mortality rate in the US is now the 
same as in Malaysia"

By Paul Vallely
The Independent [UK], 08 September 2005
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article311066.ece


Parts of the United States are as poor as 
the Third World, according to a shocking 
United Nations report on global inequality.

Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid 
bare a growing racial and economic divide in 
the US have, until now, been rejected by the 
American political establishment as 
emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN 
report provides statistical proof that for 
many - well beyond those affected by the 
aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great 
American Dream is an ongoing nightmare.

The document constitutes a stinging attack 
on US policies at home and abroad in a 
fightback against moves by Washington to 
undermine next week's UN 60th anniversary 
conference which will be the biggest 
gathering of world leaders in history.

The annual Human Development Report normally 
concerns itself with the Third World, but 
the 2005 edition scrutinises inequalities in 
health provision inside the US as part of a 
survey of how inequality worldwide is 
retarding the eradication of poverty.

It reveals that the infant mortality rate 
has been rising in the US for the past five 
years - and is now the same as Malaysia. 
America's black children are twice as likely 
as whites to die before their first birthday.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

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> quasi-gnomic statements

I love this. "Quasi-gnomic." 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
> > > 
> > > Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic 
ramifications 
> > > of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own 
> > > purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are 
> > > subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning 
> > > in hell or something? 
> > > 
> > > If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't 
> > instant, or (2) they didn't take the money?
> > 
> > And the evidence for this is...
> 
> What is the evidence that MMY's nephews have made off with 
> money? I'm not sure what you're asking, Lawson. Sorry.

Yes, what is the evidence that they made off with the money?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Let's assume you're correct, although I don't think you are.  
> 
> They why do you object to people being free to take a job or not, 
> depending on what they're offered?
> 
> If not enough is offered, the rebuilding won't happen.  If enough
> is offered, it will.  I do not understand your objection at all.
>  

Whatever they offer, they will get takers, sot he rebuilding WILL take 
place, regardless. There are questions of quality, timeliness, as well 
as pumping money into the local economy naturally, rather than as 
direct handouts, that arise when you pay lower-than-normal wages for 
this kind of thing.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
> > 
> > Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications 
> > of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own 
> > purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are 
> > subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning 
> > in hell or something? 
> > 
> > If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't 
> instant, or (2) they didn't take the money?
> 
> And the evidence for this is...

What is the evidence that MMY's nephews have made off with 
money? I'm not sure what you're asking, Lawson. Sorry.

 - Patrick

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- Cliff wrote:
> No one has ever said karma is instant that I recall hearing, 

No, not in so many words. But there's a tendency in 
TM World to say that anything bad befalling the United 
States is payback for our bullying the rest of the world. 

Maharishi, for example, said during our bombing campaign 
in Bosnia that bombs would fall in the U.S. in retribution. 
Sure enough, when the September 11 attacks hit, people 
recirculated those statements of Maharishi's to remind us 
of his prescience.

That tendency to assign tit for tat suggests to me that 
instant karma is a lively belief in the TM universe.

> and in 
> any case, all actions are possible to justify if one tries hard enough.

I think this explanation might be closer to how the universe actually works.

 - Patrick Gillam

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'

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> Could be a very emotional experience! 
>  
> And good harmony, hopefully.

I'll out of my way to miss it.

Maudlin, self-congratulatory, full of superlatives, hyperbole and 
platitudes rhetoric from the politically-correct Hollywood In-Crowd 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Grace of Guru only...Was[Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?]

2005-09-09 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hanumanhoffman9 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

the universe is too vast for there to be an "only means".  And
> > the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way.
> 
> If there is only One Almighty, then it seems there would be only 
one door to enter His 
> domain, therefore just one keyhole with which only one key would 
fit. Who's going to give 
> you that key?
> 
> God is Guru..Guru is God.

As You are God, too,
As You are your Guru, too. No real difference.
> 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart

LOL!!   Did they deliver staplers as well?

Sorry, couldn't resist...   :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for 
> the work they did during the hurricane.  Appears that Wal-Mart has 
> such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get 
> staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies 
> weren't.

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[FairfieldLife] Hero Wal-Mart

Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for 
the work they did during the hurricane.  Appears that Wal-Mart has 
such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get 
staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies 
weren't.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Grace of Guru only...Was[Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?]

Sorry, but *One Almighty* neither implies one door, nor His, nor one keyhole, 
nor one key.  

Even though there might be one ocean, there are many different rivers that flow 
into it, 
and an infinite number of places one can enter those many rivers, and a wide 
variety of 
completely acceptable craft to navigate the rivers on the journey.  Your drone 
of *one and 
only* gives me even more pause than the original quote.

Your logic is faulty.  Pretensions to supreme knowledge dressed up in 
profound-sounding 
words only end up being words, in the end.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hanumanhoffman9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now
> > is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?"  Then,
> > "Was he asking for donations in the next breath?"
> 
> This feeling of sour stomach is one of the sad results from one such as the 
> leader of the 
> TMO.
> Disbelief in all what Veda has laid down.
> 
> > 
> > Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an "only means".  And
> > the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way.
> 
> If there is only One Almighty, then it seems there would be only one door to 
> enter His 
> domain, therefore just one keyhole with which only one key would fit. Who's 
> going to 
give 
> you that key?
> 
> God is Guru..Guru is God.
> 
> Who gets anything other that what they deserve?
> Perhaps someday a Divine antacid will come your way.
> 
> Hari Om Tat Sat
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Grace of Guru only...Was[Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?]

2005-09-09 Thread hanumanhoffman9

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now
> is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?"  Then,
> "Was he asking for donations in the next breath?"

This feeling of sour stomach is one of the sad results from one such as the 
leader of the 
TMO.
Disbelief in all what Veda has laid down.

> 
> Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an "only means".  And
> the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way.

If there is only One Almighty, then it seems there would be only one door to 
enter His 
domain, therefore just one keyhole with which only one key would fit. Who's 
going to give 
you that key?

God is Guru..Guru is God.

Who gets anything other that what they deserve?
Perhaps someday a Divine antacid will come your way.

Hari Om Tat Sat

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

Let's assume you're correct, although I don't think you are.  

They why do you object to people being free to take a job or not, 
depending on what they're offered?

If not enough is offered, the rebuilding won't happen.  If enough
is offered, it will.  I do not understand your objection at all.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high 
> minimum-
> > wage guidelines are enforced.  This will be particularly helpful in 
> getting
> > teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at 
> least some
> > useful work.
> > 
> 
> No teenagers or low-skill workers are going to be involved in 
> rebuilding a disaster-area. You need your very best to handle the 
> demands. I mean, they're going to be buildingin a contaminated swamp 
> where living quarters will likely be miles from theworksite. you 
> don't do OJT in emergency conditions.
> 
> 
> > I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics 
> behind
> > it.  Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush proposed 
> it?  
> 
> Is it possible you've missed that this is a disaster relief and 
> rebuilding effort, not a $500 million pork-bridge in Alaska?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > >  And we are finding our way to create big groups even
> > > > so it is not happening
> > > > so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our
> > > > efforts but lack of
> > > > the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So
> > > > we hide behind the
> > > > logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it
> > > > is not going so fast.
> > > > There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have
> > > > a logic, it is the
> > > > luck of the world.
> > > > 
> > > In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY 
is 
> > > talking about when he says, "We have to hide somewhere. So we 
> > > hide behind the logic..."? Sounds crazy to me.
> > 
> > Caught my eye too.  I suspect it's one of his
> > quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple
> > interpretations.  The way I read it, he's saying
> > there's an explanation that makes sense (the "logic"),
> > but at the same time, in characterizing it as 
> > "hiding," he's also suggesting that it's an excuse.
> > 
> > As in: Some of you are mature enough to take
> > responsibility for the failure without being crushed,
> > and you don't need the excuse; those of you who
> > who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide
> > behind.
> > 
> >  And the whole tone of the 
> > > message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in
> > > his movement. Or am I missing something?
> > 
> > He's being more explicit about the failure than
> > I've seen before, actually, but for whatever
> > reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it.
> 
> Benevolent of him, since the failure is his.

On the other hand, "we" includes him.  (In fact, one
might even read it as the "royal we," referring to
himself alone.  He frequently uses "we" to mean
himself.)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---Peter wrote:
> > 
> > --- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Note: forwarded message attached.
> >> 
> >> The Luck of the World
> >> 
> >> Global Press Conference,  24.8.05
> >> 
> >> MAHARISHI: 
> >> 
> >> We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather 
(big groups) 
> >> very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to 
light the big 
> >> lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply 
disappears. It 
> >> is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am 
hopeful. I am 
> >> continuing...
> >> 
> > Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL 
> > ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR 
> > PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY 
> > GOTTEN TOGETHER.
> 
> Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications 
> of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own 
> purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are 
> subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning 
> in hell or something? 
> 
> If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't 
instant, 
> or (2) they didn't take the money?
> 

And the evidence for this is...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > 
> > The Luck of the World
> > 
> > Global Press Conference,  24.8.05
> > 
> > MAHARISHI:  
> > 
> > We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are
> > trying
> > to gather (big groups)
> > very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t
> > allow
> > us to light the big
> > lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep
> > darkness
> > simply disappears. It
> > is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But
> > still I am hopeful. I am
> > continuing...
> 
> Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE
> MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG
> GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. I love you
> MMY, but you're a big ass con artist and crook. Let's
> call a spade a spade, okay?

I remain unconvinced of this.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Very cool:
> > 
> > http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/
> 
> Europe > Estonia:
> 
> Õu mai gaad mis beibed!  LOL
> 
> (Oh my God what babes!)

Heavy sigh. 

Reminds me of my cute neighbor who came in to model part of her work 
costume to drum up business for the annual "haunted house walk."

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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
[...]
> >
> >Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?!  You'd
> >better run before I call down the wrath of Dog 
> >on you!
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> And here I thought it was because it was Yat Suga.

Scarily enough, I read that as Sat Yuga the first time.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cliff wrote:
>  The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first 
> > feared..., 
> >
> But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the
> governor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into the
> thousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the death
> toll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit the
> mainland?

What are we supposed tob e doing concerning waiting for the rescues and 
so on to be completed, again?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Vaj wrote:
> > > "All of these problems are the gathering of karma."
> > >
> > So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in 
the 
> > Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? If 
the 
> > theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by 
an 
> > earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans?
> > 
> > Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it?
> 
> Karma doesn't require that you get payback THIS lifetime...

In fact, the perfect karma for some assholes
might just be having to spend about 10,000 
more incarnations as an asshole.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Gillam wrote:
> > Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police
> > vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic.
> > 
> From This is London:
> 
> He told the Liverpool Daily Post: "I couldn't describe how bad the 
> authorities were. Just little things like taking photographs of us,
> as we are standing on the roof waving for help, for their own 
little 
> snapshot albums.
> 
> "At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel 
> saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what 
> you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When 
the 
> girls refused, they said 'Fine' and motored off down the road in 
> their boat."
> 
> 'Penn accuses Bush amid rescue chaos'
> This is LONDON
> http://tinyurl.com/95q7b

Do you catch the difference between reward for extra attention and 
requirement of payment for rescue?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
> > "All of these problems are the gathering of karma."
> >
> So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the 
> Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? If the 
> theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an 
> earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans?
> 
> Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it?

Karma doesn't require that you get payback THIS lifetime...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > > > FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on 
> Thursday -- 
> > > $50 
> > > > billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion 
> for 
> > > its 
> > > > rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 
> million 
> > > to 
> > > > dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees 
in 
> New 
> > > > Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states.
> > 
> > Lots coming out on Brown, the head of FEMA, who will be in charge 
> of
> > that $50 billion.  As most know, he's been derided as a "horse 
> lawyer"
> > with no emergency management experience (he was a lawyer for the
> > Arabian Horse Association from which he was ousted).  More on his
> > official resume posted at FindLaw:
> > 
> > - his law school is not accredited and is regarded as a joke
> > - he states he was on the Dean's List at his college in OK, but 
the
> > college says NO he never was
> > - he states he was given the award "outstanding political science
> > professor" at his college, but the college says he was never a
> > professor at all, much less an outstanding one
> > -  he states he was Director of a christian nursing home, but the
> > nursing home has never heard of him
> > - he was let go from his first law job,
> 
> 
> 
> Well, at least that indicates he passed the bar, no?  Assuming you 
> can't get a "law job" without being a lawyer.  So how bad could it 
> be getting your law degree at an unaccredited school?
> 

Can you "pass the bar" without an accredited degree? Just because he 
works as a "lawyer" doesn't mean he's licensed to practice law 
anywhere.





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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: 'Katrina Fuels Debate on Global Warming'

2005-09-09 Thread Robert Gimbel




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high 
minimum-
> wage guidelines are enforced.  This will be particularly helpful in 
getting
> teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at 
least some
> useful work.
> 

No teenagers or low-skill workers are going to be involved in 
rebuilding a disaster-area. You need your very best to handle the 
demands. I mean, they're going to be buildingin a contaminated swamp 
where living quarters will likely be miles from theworksite. you 
don't do OJT in emergency conditions.

> I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics 
behind
> it.  Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush proposed 
it?  

Is it possible you've missed that this is a disaster relief and 
rebuilding effort, not a $500 million pork-bridge in Alaska?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall

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wrote:
> Called putting your assets to good use...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > from the New York Times:
> > 
> > Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the 
> > distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French 
> > Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a 
> > unusual way to make sure that police officers 
> > regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a 
> > bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles 
> > that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic.
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/dshvd

Strong in the knowledge, even in New Orleans...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time

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> Very cool:
> 
> http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/

Bookmarked.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

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wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at
> > > > > each other has become the norm.
> > > > 
> > > > Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think
> > > > that.
> > > 
> > > Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look
> > > at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post
> > > 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598.
> > 
> > You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two 
digits. 
> > What are you, dyslexic?
> 
> Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?!  You'd
> better run before I call down the wrath of Dog 
> on you!

You misspelled "doG," fool.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

I like to think of myself as an observer and commentator, but not an
apologist.  I try to describe what I see and experience and draw 
conclusions from the same, not paying too much attention to what 
the *accepted wisdom* is on any given topic.

I think our ability to work together in large organizations
is critical to much of what we, as a species, have come to enjoy.  It's also
produced many of our most difficult challenges.

But humans overwhelmingly vote for what only large, stable, long-lived
organizations (business, education, government, etc.) can provide.  And we
have for thousands of years.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you're a big business apologist. :) 
> 
> Cliff wrote:
> 
> >There are many corporations of much larger than 200 people who can
> >trace their existence back hundreds of years.  Your implication that only
> >a *fool* or a *megalomaniac* would ever take on the task of leading such
> >an entity betrays your intense anti-business bias, I would suggest, and has
> >very little to do with reality.
> >  
> >
> I've been a manager in company, have you?   I know the reality very 
> well.  Company size was an issue of intense discussion.   We watched as 
> the company CEO fell out of control when it was taken public and grew to 
> over 400 people.  We also saw this happen with other companies.
> 
> In my case I wound up with 24 people in my group to manage.  Now anyone 
> who knows anything about management that it is difficult to manage a 
> group of any more than 8 people.  This has been recognized in the 
> military for years.  I had to create yet another layer of management 
> with 3-4 managers under me  of those 24.   But it is also a good idea to 
> keep the number of layers low.  In its better days Hewlett-Packard was 
> considered a great place to work because they only had 3 levels of 
> hierarchy. 
> 
> >If big business is so horrible and run by such truly awful people, why do
> >you drive a car?  Why do you fly in airplanes?  Why do you use dish-washers
> >and vacuum cleaners?  Why do you shop in grocery stores rather than pluck
> >your own weeds?  Every day you willingly, gladly and completely unthink-
> >ingly use thousands of products which could only have been produced by
> >long-lived, stable, efficient companies of vastly more than 200 people.
> >
> >  
> >
> These days a lot of these things are assembled from stuff supplied by 
> smaller companies.  It's been that way for some time.  I'm not saying 
> that every large business does that but  many do. 
> 
> Also when we have smaller companies then they employ more people and 
> employment becomes less of a problem.  People enjoy working in smaller 
> companies than large ones as the retain their identity and know more of 
> the people they work with.
> 
> Then we have the issue of corporations which have become psychopathic 
> and destructive to the society and the environment.  It would be far 
> better to limit corporation size, rights and life span as we did in the 
> US prior to the Civil War.
> 
> Some of this psychopathic behavior is due to companies going public.  
> They begin to work for the investor and not the customer.  Often doing 
> so they lose what made them successful in the first place.  There is a 
> saying, "before going public you work for dollars.  After going public 
> you work for quarters."
> 
> Have a nice time working at Wal-Mart. ;-)
> 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Founders Day September 12, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "George DeForest"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Founders Day September 12, 2005.
> 
> 
>   Dear Alumni and Friends,
> 
>   This Monday marks the 34th anniversary of the founding of
Maharishi University of Management and as many of us remember,
Maharishi International University. How can we ever begin to thank
Maharishi for all the love, precious wisdom, and great patience he has
bestowed upon us throughout the years?

Nothing like advanced planning. Must have been on the top of the
priority list ... 

JohnY

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

2005-09-09 Thread Bhairitu

So you're a big business apologist. :) 

Cliff wrote:

>There are many corporations of much larger than 200 people who can
>trace their existence back hundreds of years.  Your implication that only
>a *fool* or a *megalomaniac* would ever take on the task of leading such
>an entity betrays your intense anti-business bias, I would suggest, and has
>very little to do with reality.
>  
>
I've been a manager in company, have you?   I know the reality very 
well.  Company size was an issue of intense discussion.   We watched as 
the company CEO fell out of control when it was taken public and grew to 
over 400 people.  We also saw this happen with other companies.

In my case I wound up with 24 people in my group to manage.  Now anyone 
who knows anything about management that it is difficult to manage a 
group of any more than 8 people.  This has been recognized in the 
military for years.  I had to create yet another layer of management 
with 3-4 managers under me  of those 24.   But it is also a good idea to 
keep the number of layers low.  In its better days Hewlett-Packard was 
considered a great place to work because they only had 3 levels of 
hierarchy. 

>If big business is so horrible and run by such truly awful people, why do
>you drive a car?  Why do you fly in airplanes?  Why do you use dish-washers
>and vacuum cleaners?  Why do you shop in grocery stores rather than pluck
>your own weeds?  Every day you willingly, gladly and completely unthink-
>ingly use thousands of products which could only have been produced by
>long-lived, stable, efficient companies of vastly more than 200 people.
>
>  
>
These days a lot of these things are assembled from stuff supplied by 
smaller companies.  It's been that way for some time.  I'm not saying 
that every large business does that but  many do. 

Also when we have smaller companies then they employ more people and 
employment becomes less of a problem.  People enjoy working in smaller 
companies than large ones as the retain their identity and know more of 
the people they work with.

Then we have the issue of corporations which have become psychopathic 
and destructive to the society and the environment.  It would be far 
better to limit corporation size, rights and life span as we did in the 
US prior to the Civil War.

Some of this psychopathic behavior is due to companies going public.  
They begin to work for the investor and not the customer.  Often doing 
so they lose what made them successful in the first place.  There is a 
saying, "before going public you work for dollars.  After going public 
you work for quarters."

Have a nice time working at Wal-Mart. ;-)

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[FairfieldLife] Fw: Founders Day September 12, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread George DeForest

Title: Founders Day September 12, 2005

Dear Alumni and
Friends,This Monday marks the 34th anniversary of the founding of Maharishi
University of Management
and as many of us remember, Maharishi International University. How can we
ever begin to thank Maharishi for all the love, precious wisdom, and great
patience he has bestowed upon us throughout the years?Let's
celebrate together this coming Monday evening, September 12. Plans are still in the works. We are hopeful to
connect with Holland or at least have some inspirational words. Locally, I
would like to invite all those who wish to share in the "yagya" of
thanksgiving to our Founder, to help bake sweets and treats and bring them
to the Dome Monday evening, bring flowers or plants to help decorate the
stage, and any other ideas you may have. Maharishi had organized
such a magnificent celebration of thanks honoring Guru Dev this recent
Guru Purnima Celebration that it would be so wonderful to return that
thanks to Maharishi. Please call me or email me with your thoughts and
let's all plan a beautiful evening together, beginning with large group
program.Jai Guru DevJennine
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

There are many corporations of much larger than 200 people who can
trace their existence back hundreds of years.  Your implication that only
a *fool* or a *megalomaniac* would ever take on the task of leading such
an entity betrays your intense anti-business bias, I would suggest, and has
very little to do with reality.

If big business is so horrible and run by such truly awful people, why do
you drive a car?  Why do you fly in airplanes?  Why do you use dish-washers
and vacuum cleaners?  Why do you shop in grocery stores rather than pluck
your own weeds?  Every day you willingly, gladly and completely unthink-
ingly use thousands of products which could only have been produced by
long-lived, stable, efficient companies of vastly more than 200 people.

Bashing big business is so sophomoric.  You would prefer the Middle Ages,
I assume?  For what - the fresh air?  Outside of cities, perhaps, but the
stench and filth in cities came WAY before big business.  For the educational
opportunities?  Big smile on that one.  For the simplicity of life?  Well, 80%
of people dying by age 5 and most of the rest dying by age 30 does cut down
on the number of choices one has to make, so life was simpler in that respect.

Yes, there are many examples of bad apples in big business.  There are even
more examples of bad apples who are loners.  So what?  Look what you
choose by essentially every action you take, including looking at this website
which involves the intense cooperation of hundreds of different large business
entities, and see what your actions say about your feelings.  Drop the
posturing, please.  It's sort of like Maharishi nattering on about how horrible
western medicine is when he would have died multiple times already without it.
Totally undercuts the argument.

There is ALWAYS something that can be improved in any situation.  Always.  I
think that focusing on that makes way more sense than bitching about things
that obviously work so well that you perpetually choose them.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  From what I've seen it is pretty difficult to manage a company much 
> larger than 200.  Beyond that things seem to spin out of control.  
> However, we seem to have lots of fools and megalomaniacs that are 
> willing to attempt the chore.
> 
> Cliff wrote:
> 
> >You've clearly never run even a small corporation, Robert, much
> >less a large one.  Otherwise you'd realize what a crushing
> >sense of responsibility that is for any CEO who takes their
> >job seriously.
> >
> >Learn before commenting.  Otherwise you sound pretty dumb...
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>George must think, he's a CEO of a large corporation;
> >> 
> >>And that he's really not responsible for anything:
> >>  
> >>Because in a corporation, you can pass the buck, literally,
> >> 
> >>And quite easily,
> >> 
> >>Right?
> >> 
> >>Robert Gimbel
> >>
> >>
> >>-
> >> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
> >>
> >>

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[FairfieldLife] 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

No one has ever said karma is instant that I recall hearing, and in 
any case, all actions are possible to justify if one tries hard enough.

*Well, since you all are so stupid as to keep giving us money when 
we've clearly lied to you over and over again, we don't get bad karma
from doing this.  We're just the agents of your own karma trying to
teach you to pay attention and quit believing con men and frauds.  We
promise that once you finally wake up and figure out what's been 
happening that we won't ever do it again.* 

*But we will keep the money.*

*Part of the process of making sure you REALLY understand the lesson...*

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> ---Peter wrote:
> > 
> > --- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Note: forwarded message attached.
> >> 
> >> The Luck of the World
> >> 
> >> Global Press Conference,  24.8.05
> >> 
> >> MAHARISHI: 
> >> 
> >> We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big 
> >> groups) 
> >> very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big 
> >> lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. 
> >> It 
> >> is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I 
> >> am 
> >> continuing...
> >> 
> > Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL 
> > ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR 
> > PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY 
> > GOTTEN TOGETHER.
> 
> Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications 
> of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own 
> purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are 
> subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning 
> in hell or something? 
> 
> If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't instant, 
> or (2) they didn't take the money?
> 
>  - Patrick Gillam

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > Note: forwarded message attached.
> >  And we are finding our way to create big groups even
> > > so it is not happening
> > > so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our
> > > efforts but lack of
> > > the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So
> > > we hide behind the
> > > logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it
> > > is not going so fast.
> > > There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have
> > > a logic, it is the
> > > luck of the world.
> > > 
> > In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is 
> > talking about when he says, "We have to hide somewhere. So we 
> > hide behind the logic..."? Sounds crazy to me.
> 
> Caught my eye too.  I suspect it's one of his
> quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple
> interpretations.  The way I read it, he's saying
> there's an explanation that makes sense (the "logic"),
> but at the same time, in characterizing it as 
> "hiding," he's also suggesting that it's an excuse.
> 
> As in: Some of you are mature enough to take
> responsibility for the failure without being crushed,
> and you don't need the excuse; those of you who
> who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide
> behind.
> 
>  And the whole tone of the 
> > message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in
> > his movement. Or am I missing something?
> 
> He's being more explicit about the failure than
> I've seen before, actually, but for whatever
> reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it.

Benevolent of him, since the failure is his.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note: forwarded message attached.
>  And we are finding our way to create big groups even
> > so it is not happening
> > so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our
> > efforts but lack of
> > the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So
> > we hide behind the
> > logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it
> > is not going so fast.
> > There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have
> > a logic, it is the
> > luck of the world.
> > 
> In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is 
> talking about when he says, "We have to hide somewhere. So we hide 
> behind the logic..."? Sounds crazy to me.

Caught my eye too.  I suspect it's one of his
quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple
interpretations.  The way I read it, he's saying
there's an explanation that makes sense (the "logic"),
but at the same time, in characterizing it as 
"hiding," he's also suggesting that it's an excuse.

As in: Some of you are mature enough to take
responsibility for the failure without being crushed,
and you don't need the excuse; those of you who
who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide
behind.

 And the whole tone of the 
> message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in
> his movement. Or am I missing something?

He's being more explicit about the failure than
I've seen before, actually, but for whatever
reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now
> is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?"  Then,
> "Was he asking for donations in the next breath?"
> 
> Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an "only means".  And
> the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way.

Well said.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now
is, "And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that?"  Then,
"Was he asking for donations in the next breath?"

Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an "only means".  And
the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...

That's been my point for a while - touting HUGE numbers of deaths is a
great political play, particularly when you're trying desperately to point the
blame finger away from yourself.  More input:

Katrina death toll still a question

Sep 8, 10:34 PM (ET)

By Jim Loney

BATON ROUGE, La., Sept 8 - Estimates of the death toll from Hurricane Katrina 
have run as 
high as 10,000 but the actual body count so far is much lower and officials who 
feared the 
worst now hope the dire predictions were wrong.

The recovery of Katrina's victims speeded up in the last two days. As of 
Thursday, 
Mississippi had recorded 201 deaths and Louisiana 118, while other affected 
states had 
much lower numbers.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Cliff wrote:
>  The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first 
> > feared..., 
> >
> But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the
> governor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into the
> thousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the death
> toll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit the
> mainland?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

2005-09-09 Thread Bhairitu

 From what I've seen it is pretty difficult to manage a company much 
larger than 200.  Beyond that things seem to spin out of control.  
However, we seem to have lots of fools and megalomaniacs that are 
willing to attempt the chore.

Cliff wrote:

>You've clearly never run even a small corporation, Robert, much
>less a large one.  Otherwise you'd realize what a crushing
>sense of responsibility that is for any CEO who takes their
>job seriously.
>
>Learn before commenting.  Otherwise you sound pretty dumb...
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>George must think, he's a CEO of a large corporation;
>> 
>>And that he's really not responsible for anything:
>>  
>>Because in a corporation, you can pass the buck, literally,
>> 
>>And quite easily,
>> 
>>Right?
>> 
>>Robert Gimbel
>>
>>  
>>-
>> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
>>
>>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note: forwarded message attached.
 And we are finding our way to create big groups even
> so it is not happening
> so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our
> efforts but lack of
> the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So
> we hide behind the
> logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it
> is not going so fast.
> There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have
> a logic, it is the
> luck of the world.
> 
In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is 
talking about when he says, "We have to hide somewhere. So we hide 
behind the logic..."? Sounds crazy to me. And the whole tone of the 
message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his 
movement. Or am I missing something?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread hanumanhoffman9

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >> So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of 
> >> Sri Vidya didn't exist prior?
> >>
> Sri Vidya, the Audicious Wisdom, has existed since the dawn of human
> conciousness, however as a tantric cult it dates from the eight
> century in India durng the time of the Sahajyas and mahasiddhas.
>  
> > The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.
> > 
> That's tantra - but it's very difficult to find a true guru in this
> age, that's why the tantras were prepared and desciminated.

There is a TRUE guru walking the planet. The Adiguru Lord Dattatreya's Avatara 
Sri 
Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji.
Greater scholars than those perported in this forum have attempted to prove 
otherwise.
Wanna make and attempt?
Dattatreya must be familiar to you? 

> > From His mouth these ears heard the following words,"Practice of
> > tantra keeps one tied to the earth, Swamiji's way is Vedic way 
> > not tantric."
> > 

> So, Swamiji doesn't agree with the Shankaracharya of Sringeri?

You can read for yourself what the Shankaracharya of Sringeri said when the 
Shankaracharya visited Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji in Mysore.
Note who visited who.
http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/latest/2002/april/sringeri/report.htm

> 
> >> People nowadays can't read or write Sanskrit and thus they 
> >> can't access the  scriptures; 
> > 
> > This is not true.
> >

> So you're a Sanskrit reader and you can read the tantras. Why then
> would you need a guru if you're already literate?

The answer I gave does not make the claim that I could read Sanskrit.
I do see written above your claim that people can't read it.

According to Shankara one needs initiation from Guru in order to gain 
liberation.

>  
> >> real gurus are hard to find; 
> > 
> > This is true. REAL gurus find their devotees at the proper time.
> >  
> >> and hardly anyone gets a shaktipat anymore; all we have 
> >> now are the tantric techniques.
> > 
> > Again believe what you will.
> > 
> >> Everyone meditates on something - that's why they call it
> >> meditation.
> > 
> > Point is what is to meditate upon when Fullness is the reality?
> >

> According to Shankaracharya of Sringeri, sadhaks should meditate on
> the Sri Vidya bija-mantras.

I thought we were talking about Sri Brahamananda Saraswati's meditations.
No denial about the sadhakas.
> 
> > Then again, what do I know.
> > 
> >> So, yes I do believe, based on the available evidence, that 
> >> Swami Brahmanand Saraswati probably meditated on the Sri 
> >> Chakra, just like all of the other Dasanamai Saraswati 
> >> Sannyasins do.
> >> 
> > This I do not doubt. Does it mean that an ordinary Joe gains
> > liberation from performing this puja?
> >

> Meditation and puja or any other technique does not bring liberation -
> they only provide the opportunity for transcending.
> 
> > It is doubtful that anyone but these swamis can properly perform
> > such, and if a Joe attempted would likely bring about more
> > disasterous results than positive.
> >

> Anyone who can think can meditate using the tantric bija-mantras.

Again, the point was about proper (improper) performance of puja and not 
meditating.

> 
> > His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Then what
> > is the use? All these are a waste.
> > 

> Most of us don't live in India, therefore we can't sit at the feet of
> your Swamiji and get the shaktipat.

Your statement is a very revealing one.
Guru cannot be limited to the physical form.

The sloka says: "His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru."

Sri Swamiji has been around the world over 65 times. It wasn't in India where 
He became 
available to this sadhaka. He is available through His music and thousands of 
songs 
containing these bijas to which you refer. His music is most beautiful, His 
voice divine, so 
many songs to Devi. 

Tantra...Veda...  the line is definitely very very thin.

Dattatreya's ways are very tricky and not for everyone.

Jaya Guru Datta
Hari Om Tat Sat

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

---Peter wrote:
> 
> --- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Note: forwarded message attached.
>> 
>> The Luck of the World
>> 
>> Global Press Conference,  24.8.05
>> 
>> MAHARISHI: 
>> 
>> We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) 
>> very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big 
>> lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It 
>> is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am 
>> continuing...
>> 
> Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL 
> ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR 
> PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY 
> GOTTEN TOGETHER.

Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications 
of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own 
purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are 
subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning 
in hell or something? 

If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't instant, 
or (2) they didn't take the money?

 - Patrick Gillam

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread Peter

--- Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Note: forwarded message attached.
> 
> The Luck of the World
> 
> Global Press Conference,  24.8.05
> 
> MAHARISHI:  
> 
> We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are
> trying
> to gather (big groups)
> very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t
> allow
> us to light the big
> lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep
> darkness
> simply disappears. It
> is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But
> still I am hopeful. I am
> continuing...

Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE
MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG
GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. I love you
MMY, but you're a big ass con artist and crook. Let's
call a spade a spade, okay?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters

2005-09-09 Thread bostonbob53

 
> The guy admits to being a racist. He admits that his politics come
> straight out of the Aryan Nation.   So what?  What are the rest of
> you, the members of this snake pit called FFL?  
> 
> Don't bother calling me a racist.  I proclaim that I am one.  Now what
> are you going to do about it?  Call me on it?  I am proud to proclaim
> that I am one.  Do you think calling me one discredits anything else I
> write in this snake pit?  It certainly doesn't shame me to call me
> what I freely admit to being.  Proudly admit to being.

So let me get this straight Tom.  In this forum of about 1,000 members of FFL, 
you are saying "Yes, I hate Jews, I hate Blacks and other minorities. I'm glad 
for the suffering in New Orleans and it is a shame that the whole place wasn't 
wiped off the earth with all its inhabitants".   

That is what you are saying proudly?

When you see photos of kids who lost their parents and parents who lost their 
kids in the flood, you feel what.a little compassion for their pain, or 
that they 
got what they deserved?

Admittedly I don't know much about yagyas, yajnas, or whatever.  But I know 
they are a form of prayer.  I'm just wondering how you have the balls to ask 
god in whatever form you believe in, to help you,  to support your life and 
what 
you want to make of it.  

A word of advice Tom, keep your head down and don't go out when there is a 
chance of lightning.  




  




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time

2005-09-09 Thread cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very cool:
> 
> http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/

Europe > Estonia:

Õu mai gaad mis beibed!  LOL

(Oh my God what babes!)

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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005

2005-09-09 Thread Ron F

Note: forwarded message attached.

The Luck of the World

Global Press Conference,  24.8.05

MAHARISHI:   ...sometimes we begin to feel to be angry
on these people
(government). Then we compromise and say, those who
can not think properly
how can we be angry on them. Their brain is
functioning distorted. So how
can we be angry on them. They have been drugged in
their early stages. They
are not eating proper food. In the name of medicine
they are eating poison
for new diseases to come up. How you can expect them
to be sensible to
themselves or sensible to others...

So the conclusion in my mind is, do what we ourselves
can do. Do what we
can do and don`t think much of anything. Whatever
coherence we can create in
any country, that will be our contribution for
creating that coherence in
the national consciousness. Governments are not in the
position to hear...

We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying
to gather (big groups)
very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow
us to light the big
lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness
simply disappears. It
is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But
still I am hopeful. I am
continuing...

It is not necessary to be angry on them because, if a
man is rushing on to
the hell, you can`t stop him. He is running and
rushing to get into the
gates of hell. What you can do?  But inform him before
he starts in that
direction. Tell him you are divine inside, you are
cosmic inside, you are
universal inside. Your soul is a unified field. You
are bliss inside. You
are a flow of bliss. You are a flow of total Natural
Law. You are
invincible. You are powerful. You are integrated...

It is just a matter of the total atmosphere which has
a great influence on
the individual. And the total atmosphere we are aiming
at,  purifying the
total atmosphere. Harmony, positivity in the national
consciousness of every
country, in the world consciousness. Big groups, big
groups.

And we are finding our way to create big groups even
so it is not happening
so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our
efforts but lack of
the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So
we hide behind the
logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it
is not going so fast.
There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have
a logic, it is the
luck of the world.

But it is enjoyable, this way or that way. We are on
the right way.

Maryanne Lee-Hartman




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The Luck of the World

Global Press Conference,  24.8.05

MAHARISHI:   ...sometimes we begin to feel to be angry
on these people
(government). Then we compromise and say, those who
can not think properly
how can we be angry on them. Their brain is
functioning distorted. So how
can we be angry on them. They have been drugged in
their early stages. They
are not eating proper food. In the name of medicine
they are eating poison
for new diseases to come up. How you can expect them
to be sensible to
themselves or sensible to others...

So the conclusion in my mind is, do what we ourselves
can do. Do what we
can do and don`t think much of anything. Whatever
coherence we can create in
any country, that will be our contribution for
creating that coherence in
the national consciousness. Governments are not in the
position to hear...

We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying
to gather (big groups)
very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow
us to light the big
lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness
simply disappears. It
is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But
still I am hopeful. I am
continuing...

It is not necessary to be angry on them because, if a
man is rushing on to
the hell, you can`t stop him. He is running and
rushing to get into the
gates of hell. What you can do?  But inform him before
he starts in that
direction. Tell him you are divine inside, you are
cosmic inside, you are
universal inside. Your soul is a unified field. You
are bliss inside. You
are a flow of bliss. You are a flow of total Natural
Law. You are
invincible. You are powerful. You are integrated...

It

[FairfieldLife] Re: White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President

2005-09-09 Thread akasha_108

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > How politically-incorrect is that?
> > 
> > Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what Hollywood 
> > would have you believe.  Both Sidney Pollack ("Havana") and Francis 
> > Ford Coppola ("Godfather II") portrayed Fulgencio Batista as white 
> > Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic
> > 
> > http://images.google.com/images?
> > svnum=10&hl=en&c2coff=1&q=fulgencio+batista&spell=1
> 

More articles on Bastista and his regime

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_176-200/doc0190.html

Batista's brother-in-law controlled all 10,000 slot machines in Cuba,
which contributed million to the regime's bank account.  The slot
machines, symbols of the ousted leader, were especially sought out by
the mobs.

The government was to get $25,000 for license plus twenty percent of
the profits from each casino.  What Batista and the "in group" got has
never been certified.  It was rumored that to get a license a fee for
$250,000 and sometimes more was required under the table.  Periodic
payoffs were requested and received by the corrupt politicians.

http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/archieve/oct15/cuba2.htm

With the U.S. government's full support, including arms, bombers, and
fighter planes, Batista's forces fought to suppress the revolution
and, during the course of the war, killed almost 20,000 Cubans. But
the Cuban people had had enough of Batista, the Mafia, political
corruption, tortures, and murders as well as the U.S. government's
support of it all. The Cuban poor joined up with Castro's forces.

http://www.thescreamonline.com/essays/essays4-1/batista.html

THE COVER OF TIME MAGAZINE (April 9, 1952) showed a photo of Batista
with a Cuban flag behind him, and the caption: "Cuba's Batista: he got
past Democracy's sentries." Ironically, that was not the first time
that Batista had bypassed the process of Democracy, with the full
blessing and encouragement of its self-appointed guardians. Twenty
years earlier Batista had become the strongman that would come to
symbolize the heart and soul of Roosevelt's "Good Neighbor Policy."
...
 Batista opened the way for large-scale gambling in Havana, and he
reorganized the Cuban state so that he and his political appointees
could harvest the nation's riches. He announced that his government
would match, dollar for dollar, any hotel investment over $1 million,
which would include a casino license, and Lansky became the center of
the entire Cuban gambling operation.
...
 Due to popular unrest, and to apiece his U.S. friends, Batista held a
mock election in which he was the only legal candidate. He won,
becoming president of Cuba in 1954. Cubans, however, had learned not
to trust him, and were demanding new, legitimate elections.

...
 By late 1955 student riots and anti-Batista demonstration had become
frequent. These were dealt with in the violent manner his military
police had come to represent. Students attempting to march from the
University of Havana were stopped and beaten by the police, and
student leader José A. Echeverría had to be hospitalized. Another
popular student leader was killed on December 10, leading to a funeral
that became a gigantic political protest with a 5-minute nationwide
work stoppage.

Instead of loosening his grip, Batista suspended constitutional
guarantees and established tighter censorship of the media. His
military police would patrol the streets and pick up anyone suspected
of insurrection. By the end of 1955 they had grown more prone to
violent acts of brutality and torture, with no fear of legal
repercussions. 

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0599a.asp

Before the Cuban revolution, Cuba's mercantilist economic system was
similar to those found in other Latin American countries, with the
state controlling, regulating, and taxing economic activity for the
benefit of those who were politically privileged. Today, the term
would be "crony capitalism." 
...

Among Batista's favorite cronies were Mafia bosses, who moved their
operations to Havana when their casinos in Florida were shut down.
With Batista's full blessing and assistance, the Mafia made Cuba its
base of operations, not only for gambling, but for heroin and cocaine
distribution into the United States as well. Of course, the Mafia
bosses, in turn, kicked back nice sums of money to Batista.

Batista was the U.S. government's "man in Havana," even though U.S.
officials knew that he was a brutal, antidemocratic, corrupt tyrant in
full partnership with Mafia murderers and drug dealers. None of this
mattered to Washington policymakers. What mattered was that as "our
man in Havana," when Batista received orders from Washington, he obeyed. 

http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw33/pgs_20-30/cuba.html

Batista formed a partnership with the Mafia. Ciudad La Habana became
the best little narco-trafficking base, money laundering center

[FairfieldLife] Re: White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > How politically-incorrect is that?
> > 
> > Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what 
Hollywood 
> > would have you believe.  Both Sidney Pollack ("Havana") and 
Francis 
> > Ford Coppola ("Godfather II") portrayed Fulgencio Batista as 
white 
> > Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic
> > 
> > http://images.google.com/images?
> > svnum=10&hl=en&c2coff=1&q=fulgencio+batista&spell=1
> 
>





Interesting article, Akasha.

The first part, however, contrasts sharply with the last part.






 
> 
> 
> 
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Archives/CA_Show_Article/0,23
22,217,00.html
> Excerpts
> 
> The Batista-Lansky Alliance
> How the mafia and a Cuban dictator built Havana's casinos
> By Matthew Reiss
> 
> It was December 31, 1958. Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista raised a
> New Year's Eve toast to his cabinet members and senior military
> officers and wished them hasta la vista. After seven years of 
building
> Havana's tourism industry by inviting gangsters such as Meyer 
Lansky
> to construct casinos, helping to fund their enterprises and taking 
a
> large chunk of the proceeds for himself, Batista knew his 
presidency
> was over. His plundering had weakened Cuba's treasury and 
demoralized
> the army. He filled three cargo planes with all he could carry and 
was
> on his way to the Dominican Republic before the sun came up on 
1959.
> 
> ...But while Castro could close the casinos, arrest the gangsters 
and
> deport or imprison Batista's henchmen, he could not bury the
> skyscrapers that had drained the wealth of the island. Castro
> inherited from Batista a Havana of overt poverty and ostentatious
> wealth, where the haves of the world's richest nations had come to
> exploit the have-nots; where statues of Lenin and Marx would be
> dwarfed by glass and stone monuments to the Mob; where the nation's
> architectural landmarks would be a constant reminder of the days 
when
> criminals were in charge and the Mafia roamed free.
> 
> ...
> But until that last day of 1958, the only revolution that mattered 
to
> Mafia financier Lansky involved a roulette wheel. During the 
Batista
> years, Cuba was a place where a crooked man could make an honest
> living. After a half century on the wrong side of the law in the
> United States, the celebrated gangster was legit. America's high
> rollers and celebrities were living large in the casino of Lansky's
> luxury hotel, the Riviera, and the drinks were on the house.
> 
> In the mid-1930s, a Cuban army sergeant named Fulgencio Batista 
took
> advantage of political chaos in the former Spanish colony and 
formed
> his own government. At the time, the island republic was 
foundering,
> as was its gambling industry. Years before, Havana's nightlife had
> attracted wealthy entertainers from the United States, such as 
Sarah
> Bernhardt and Enrico Caruso. But Cuba's gaming industry had become
> mired in cheating and corruption by the 1930s. So, in 1939, Batista
> recruited a New England racetrack owner named Lou Smith to revive
> Havana's Oriental Park track and Meyer Lansky to clean up the 
casinos.
> 
> 
> Two months before the 1952 presidential elections, Batista snatched
> control of the government that he had relinquished, and quickly put
> gambling back on track. Once again, the dictator contacted Lansky, 
but
> this time he gave him an annual salary of $25,000 to serve as an
> unofficial gambling minister.
> 
> 
> In 1955, the Batista government passed a law granting a gaming 
license
> to anyone who invested $1 million in a hotel or $200,000 in a new
> nightclub. And that meant anyone. Unlike the procedure for 
acquiring
> gaming licenses in Vegas, this provision exempted venture 
capitalists
> from background checks. As long as they made the required 
investment,
> they were provided with public matching funds for construction, a
> 10-year tax exemption and duty-free importation of equipment and
> furnishings. Although Batista's ostensible aim was to create new 
jobs,
> he gutted the labor laws to allow casino owners to bring their
> American croupiers.
> 
> Under the Batista-Lansky administration, Havana was ripe for 
foreign
> investment, especially for the glut of illegal earnings that Lansky
> and his cronies had accumulated from bootlegging, numbers and other
> rackets. The FBI was developing new ways of tracking down dirty 
money;
> to gangsters with loads of tainted cash, Havana looked like a 
stable
> offshore depository. The climate was so attractive that Lansky 
decided
> to build his own hotel, the Riviera, on the Malecón, Havana's wide
> boulevard along the seawall. In 1957 it rose over the horizon like 
a
> beacon, advertising the city as a refuge from the law.
> 
> ...
> 
> During the same period, however, the people of Cuba suffered.
> Government corrupti

[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jstein wrote:
> > Are you asking me, or Sparaig?
> > 
> I'm asking both of you

No, I was asking Cliff who he was asking, not you.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President

2005-09-09 Thread akasha_108

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> How politically-incorrect is that?
> 
> Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what Hollywood 
> would have you believe.  Both Sidney Pollack ("Havana") and Francis 
> Ford Coppola ("Godfather II") portrayed Fulgencio Batista as white 
> Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic
> 
> http://images.google.com/images?
> svnum=10&hl=en&c2coff=1&q=fulgencio+batista&spell=1

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Archives/CA_Show_Article/0,2322,217,00.html
Excerpts

The Batista-Lansky Alliance
How the mafia and a Cuban dictator built Havana's casinos
By Matthew Reiss

It was December 31, 1958. Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista raised a
New Year's Eve toast to his cabinet members and senior military
officers and wished them hasta la vista. After seven years of building
Havana's tourism industry by inviting gangsters such as Meyer Lansky
to construct casinos, helping to fund their enterprises and taking a
large chunk of the proceeds for himself, Batista knew his presidency
was over. His plundering had weakened Cuba's treasury and demoralized
the army. He filled three cargo planes with all he could carry and was
on his way to the Dominican Republic before the sun came up on 1959.

...But while Castro could close the casinos, arrest the gangsters and
deport or imprison Batista's henchmen, he could not bury the
skyscrapers that had drained the wealth of the island. Castro
inherited from Batista a Havana of overt poverty and ostentatious
wealth, where the haves of the world's richest nations had come to
exploit the have-nots; where statues of Lenin and Marx would be
dwarfed by glass and stone monuments to the Mob; where the nation's
architectural landmarks would be a constant reminder of the days when
criminals were in charge and the Mafia roamed free.

...
But until that last day of 1958, the only revolution that mattered to
Mafia financier Lansky involved a roulette wheel. During the Batista
years, Cuba was a place where a crooked man could make an honest
living. After a half century on the wrong side of the law in the
United States, the celebrated gangster was legit. America's high
rollers and celebrities were living large in the casino of Lansky's
luxury hotel, the Riviera, and the drinks were on the house.

In the mid-1930s, a Cuban army sergeant named Fulgencio Batista took
advantage of political chaos in the former Spanish colony and formed
his own government. At the time, the island republic was foundering,
as was its gambling industry. Years before, Havana's nightlife had
attracted wealthy entertainers from the United States, such as Sarah
Bernhardt and Enrico Caruso. But Cuba's gaming industry had become
mired in cheating and corruption by the 1930s. So, in 1939, Batista
recruited a New England racetrack owner named Lou Smith to revive
Havana's Oriental Park track and Meyer Lansky to clean up the casinos.

Two months before the 1952 presidential elections, Batista snatched
control of the government that he had relinquished, and quickly put
gambling back on track. Once again, the dictator contacted Lansky, but
this time he gave him an annual salary of $25,000 to serve as an
unofficial gambling minister.

In 1955, the Batista government passed a law granting a gaming license
to anyone who invested $1 million in a hotel or $200,000 in a new
nightclub. And that meant anyone. Unlike the procedure for acquiring
gaming licenses in Vegas, this provision exempted venture capitalists
from background checks. As long as they made the required investment,
they were provided with public matching funds for construction, a
10-year tax exemption and duty-free importation of equipment and
furnishings. Although Batista's ostensible aim was to create new jobs,
he gutted the labor laws to allow casino owners to bring their
American croupiers.

Under the Batista-Lansky administration, Havana was ripe for foreign
investment, especially for the glut of illegal earnings that Lansky
and his cronies had accumulated from bootlegging, numbers and other
rackets. The FBI was developing new ways of tracking down dirty money;
to gangsters with loads of tainted cash, Havana looked like a stable
offshore depository. The climate was so attractive that Lansky decided
to build his own hotel, the Riviera, on the Malecón, Havana's wide
boulevard along the seawall. In 1957 it rose over the horizon like a
beacon, advertising the city as a refuge from the law.

...

During the same period, however, the people of Cuba suffered.
Government corruption was endemic, while in Havana's streets
prostitution and poverty were rampant. In the countryside, the
peasants were suffering as well; Batista poured the nation's wealth
into the capital. He gave the gangsters millions in government funds
for hotel construction and spent millions more reclaiming valuable
waterfront real estate from the sea. Construction of Lansky's Riviera
went for about $18 milli

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread tazarmfune

> The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.

Believe what you will.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

jstein wrote:
> Are you asking me, or Sparaig?
> 
I'm asking both of you - why aren't you reporting that the Louisiana
Department of Homeland Security wouldn't let the Red Cross and the
Salvation Army in to take food and water to the people stranded at the
Superdome in New Orleans? Why are you withholding information from the
group? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands. 

>From Radio Blogger:

MG: But they couldn't get in to meet those needs. They asked to get
in. They were prepared with their...the Salvation Army has these
ever-familiar portable kitchen canteens, is what they call them. They
can actually make food, produce food on spot, and distribute it there.
People line up. We've seen that at hurricanes and other natural
disasters. They were ready. Not allowed in. At first, it was this idea
that we don't want to create a magnet at the evacuation site.
Secondarily, it became an issue of well, there's lots of water, and we
can't assure your safety, so on and so forth. Here's another key
point, Hugh. I was very specific with the American Red Cross,
president and CEO Marty Evans, and said wait. Tell me clearly. Were
you prepared to go in before the levees broke? Before water became an
issue of any kind? She said absolutely. Were you denied access before
the levees broke? She said we were denied access from minute one.

Read more:

Major Garrett updates us on the Red Cross AND the Salvation Army being
blocked from helping by Louisiana state officials:

http://www.radioblogger.com/#000970

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

2005-09-09 Thread Bhairitu

TurquoiseB wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>
>>
>wrote:
>  
>
>>>--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  
>>>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at
>each other has become the norm.
>  
>
Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think
that.


>>>Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look
>>>at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post
>>>5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598.
>>>  
>>>
>>You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two digits. 
>>What are you, dyslexic?
>>
>>
>
>Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?!  You'd
>better run before I call down the wrath of Dog 
>on you!
>
>
>  
>
And here I thought it was because it was Yat Suga.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...

Cliff wrote:
 The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first 
> feared..., 
>
But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the
governor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into the
thousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the death
toll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit the
mainland?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

>> So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of 
>> Sri Vidya didn't exist prior?
>>
Sri Vidya, the Audicious Wisdom, has existed since the dawn of human
conciousness, however as a tantric cult it dates from the eight
century in India durng the time of the Sahajyas and mahasiddhas.
 
> The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.
> 
That's tantra - but it's very difficult to find a true guru in this
age, that's why the tantras were prepared and desciminated.

> From His mouth these ears heard the following words,"Practice of
> tantra keeps one tied to the earth, Swamiji's way is Vedic way 
> not tantric."
> 
So, Swamiji doesn't agree with the Shankaracharya of Sringeri?

>> People nowadays can't read or write Sanskrit and thus they 
>> can't access the  scriptures; 
> 
> This is not true.
>
So you're a Sanskrit reader and you can read the tantras. Why then
would you need a guru if you're already literate?
 
>> real gurus are hard to find; 
> 
> This is true. REAL gurus find their devotees at the proper time.
>  
>> and hardly anyone gets a shaktipat anymore; all we have 
>> now are the tantric techniques.
> 
> Again believe what you will.
> 
>> Everyone meditates on something - that's why they call it
>> meditation.
> 
> Point is what is to meditate upon when Fullness is the reality?
>
According to Shankaracharya of Sringeri, sadhaks should meditate on
the Sri Vidya bija-mantras.

> Then again, what do I know.
> 
>> So, yes I do believe, based on the available evidence, that 
>> Swami Brahmanand Saraswati probably meditated on the Sri 
>> Chakra, just like all of the other Dasanamai Saraswati 
>> Sannyasins do.
>> 
> This I do not doubt. Does it mean that an ordinary Joe gains
> liberation from performing this puja?
>
Meditation and puja or any other technique does not bring liberation -
they only provide the opportunity for transcending.

> It is doubtful that anyone but these swamis can properly perform
> such, and if a Joe attempted would likely bring about more
> disasterous results than positive.
> 
Anyone who can think can meditate using the tantric bija-mantras.

> His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Then what
> is the use? All these are a waste.
> 
Most of us don't live in India, therefore we can't sit at the feet of
your Swamiji and get the shaktipat.





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[FairfieldLife] White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President

How politically-incorrect is that?

Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what Hollywood 
would have you believe.  Both Sidney Pollack ("Havana") and Francis 
Ford Coppola ("Godfather II") portrayed Fulgencio Batista as white 
Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?

2005-09-09 Thread hanumanhoffman9

Comments interspersed


> >> Are you suggesting that one should believe that worship of 
> >> Sri Vidya didn't start until this point in time and that it 
> > started as a Buddhist practice?
> >
"Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 
It's not a belief, it's history - the Sri Vidya cult arose at about
> the same time as the Bengali Shajiyas and the eighty-four mahasiddhas.
> The Nath cult is the Western Transmission of the Tantric Buddhists -
> first to Kashmere, then to Tibet, and later to South India.

So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of Sri Vidya didn't exist 
prior?

> 
> >> Lord Hayagriva at the command of Lalita Devi gave this knowledge
> >> of Sri Vidya to Rishi Agastya and was made responsible for
> >> revealing TRUE WORSHIP of Mother through it.
> >>
> Rishi Agastya taught the Sri Vidya to Guadapada, who passed it on to
> Govinda, who taught it to Shankara who installed the Sri Chakra and
> then composed the Saundaryalari for our understanding. There is no
> higher knowledge that Sri Vidya, the Auspicious Wisdom.

No higher knowledge, indeed. Sri Mata Rajarajeshwari rules it.

http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/tours/2003/vijayawada_devi_temple/feb6/feb6.html

> 
> >> According to Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji of Mysore, 
> >> India Liberation from the cycle of birth and death does not result 
> >> through Tantra practices.
> >
> All the Shankaracharyas practice tantric techniques. We do not know
> exactly why or when the Shankarites adopted Shaktism, we only know
> that at some point in time, they did so. 

There is someone who knows.

>The tantras are for everyone they are the only means of liberation in this 
>age. 

Strong statement. Believe what you will. 
The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru.

Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji of Mysore, India is revered throughout 
India and by  
Shankaracharyas as well as the foremost exponent of Sri Vidya and Worship of 
Mother.

>From His mouth these ears heard the following words,"Practice of tantra keeps 
>one tied to 
the earth, Swamiji's way is Vedic way not tantric."

http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/festivals/navaratri2003/navaratri2003.html

He has put the entire knowledge of Sri Chakra into the cd entitled "Tripura" 
for everyone to 
benefit. It is beautiful.

>People nowadays
> can't read or write Sanskrit and thus they can't access the
> scriptures; 

This is not true.


>real gurus are hard to find; 

This is true. REAL gurus find their devotees at the proper time.
 
and hardly anyone gets a
> shaktipat anymore; all we have now are the tantric techniques.

Again believe what you will.

> 
> > So, from the above observations, it is probable that Guru Dev
> > meditated on bija-mantras contained within the Sri Yantra, a diagram
> > or mnemonic device for transcending.
> 
> >> Does anyone here really believe that Sri Brahmananda Saraswati 
> >> Jagadguru of Jyotir Math as the living example of Veda had to 
> >> meditate on anything?
> >>
> Everyone meditates on something - that's why they call it meditation.

Point is what is to meditate upon when Fullness is the reality?
Then again, what do I know.

> But we have an eyewitness account, Swami Rama of the Himalayas, who
> met Brahmanand Saraswati in the Vindhya mountains one time. In his
> book, Living With the Himalayan Masters, Swami Rama recounts how
> Brahmananda showed him a Sri Yantra and explained the Sri Vidya to
> him.
> 
> So, we have an eyewitness account by Swami Rama; we have the fact that
> Brahmanand's guru was Swami Krishanand Saraswati of Sringeri; we have
> the fact that the Sringeri matha, founded by Shankara, is the seat of
> the Sri Chakra; and we have the Saundaryalahari composed by
> Shankaracharya, which describes the worship of Tripurasundari and
> enumerates the Sri Vidya bija-mantras. So, yes I do believe, based on
> the available evidence, that Swami Brahmanand Saraswati probably
> meditated on the Sri Chakra, just like all of the other Dasanamai
> Saraswati Sannyasins do.

This I do not doubt. Does it mean that an ordinary Joe gains liberation from 
performing 
this puja? It is doubtful that anyone but these swamis can properly perform 
such, and if a 
Joe attempted would likely bring about more disasterous results than positive.


Here is a verse from Shankara's Guru Ashtakam with commentary from Sri 
Ganapathi 
Sachchidananda Swamiji

Shadangaadhi Vedo Mukhe Shastra Vidhyaa
Kavitva aadhi Gadhyam Supadhyam Karoti
Guro Ranghri Padme Manasche Na Lagnam
Tatah kim Tatah kim Tatah kim Tatah kim

Shadangas, Vedas, Shastras, many studies are on the tip of one's tongue. 
He can lecture on them eloquently. He can instantaneously say poetry. He gets
many praises and titles. His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Then what
is the use? All these are a waste.

Hari Om Tat Sat





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen

2005-09-09 Thread Vaj

On 9/9/05 12:49 PM, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Vaj wrote:
>> "All of these problems are the gathering of karma."
>> 
> So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the
> Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma?

I don't recall him saying "ALL the problems" were caused by karma, I think
you are generalizing. I like the naiveté of "imbalanced water element" as
the cause of floods--hell even a hydrologist or meteorologist might agree
with that! 

>If the 
> theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an
> earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans?
> 

Because karma is not a linear or simple phenomenon. Perhaps I should post my
obligatory karma FAQ again...even a seed needs certain conditions if it is
to spring into manifestation as a plant...karma is more like that. Was this
"crop of people" sharing some common karmic causes? Perhaps.

> Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it?

I'm sorry, that's extra.

The intent was to send something to Lhundrub which happened to be by someone
he cared dearly about, one of his teachers. If he cracks even a dim smile,
my intent was served.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

2005-09-09 Thread anonymousff

Actually, it's good internet etiquette to do a little snipping, so 
that others don't have to reread the same posts over and over again 
to get to your point. For example, I've done a little snipping 
below. I'm sure that you will see that it makes the whole thing much 
more readable.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
[SNIP]
> > > > Snipping at each other has become the norm.
> > > 
> > > Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think
[SNIP]
> > 
> > Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!!
[SNIP]
> 
> HA!  It is you who is without clue!
[SNIP]
> As I pointed out in my post 3.1415[SNIP]846,
> and in several other posts in which I thoroughly
> demolished your arguments and pointed out the flaws
[SNIP]
> to Langley
[SNIP TO END]
***
BTW, after you pointed out the flaws to Langley, what did she [;->] 
do about it? [SNIP] [SNIP] [SNIP] [SNIP]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen

They did get hit by a quake, Richard.  Sometime in the mid-1970's.  Killed
somewhere between 250,000 and 750,000 people, but was well covered up
by the Communist government.

Shit happens.  Karma happens.  Ends up pretty much the same.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
> > "All of these problems are the gathering of karma."
> >
> So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the 
> Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? If the 
> theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an 
> earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans?
> 
> Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

jstein wrote:
> Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece
> about the heroic price-gougers:
> 
So now you want to play the Stossel card?

So, why didn't the mayor and the governor evacuate the city BEFORE 
the storm hit? They had an evacuation plan - why didn't they follow 
it? Why is this question so difficult for you to answer?

>From the Los Angeles Times:

The floodwaters reached the bottom shelf, seeping up through the 
dense pages. Just a week before the storm, the state had sought a 
contract to scan and digitize 12 million pages.

Read more:

'Lives and History Adrift on a Soggy Paper Trail' 
By Alan Zarembo and Thomas H. Maugh II 
The Los Angeles Times, September 9, 2005 
http://tinyurl.com/artco

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[FairfieldLife] New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...

New Orleans death toll may not be "catastrophic"
Sep 09 12:31 PM US/Eastern
 

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as 
first 
feared, the top Homeland Security official there said on Friday.

"There's some encouragement in the initial sweeps. Some of the catastrophic 
deaths some 
people have predicted may not have occurred," Col. Terry Ebbert, director of 
Homeland 
Security for the city of New Orleans said at a news conference.

"The numbers so far are relatively minor as compared with the dire predictions 
of 10,000."





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall

Patrick Gillam wrote:
> Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police
> vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic.
> 
>From This is London:

He told the Liverpool Daily Post: "I couldn't describe how bad the 
authorities were. Just little things like taking photographs of us,
as we are standing on the roof waving for help, for their own little 
snapshot albums.

"At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel 
saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what 
you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the 
girls refused, they said 'Fine' and motored off down the road in 
their boat."

'Penn accuses Bush amid rescue chaos'
This is LONDON
http://tinyurl.com/95q7b

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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

TurquoiseB wrote:
> ...not to mention your tiny dick), 
>
Very impressive - but you would know this how, Uncle Tantra? And what 
exactly, is your head doing up his pants anyway?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience

markmeredith wrote: 
> Even the New Republic is after him!!
>
So you want to play the blame game? How long has Brown been the 
Director of FEMA?

Another question: Why wasn't New Orleans evacuated BEFORE the storm? 
Why is this question so difficult for you to answer, Mark?

>From the New York Times:

Apparently Mike Brown was General counsel, then deputy director and 
finally, since 2003, director of FEMA.

He has overseen the response to 164 presidentially declared 
disasters, he said, including California wildfires, a rash of 
tornadoes in the Midwest several years ago and the four Florida 
hurricanes last year.

'Michael DeWayne Brown: Facing Blame in a Disaster'
By Scott Shane
The New York Times, September 7, 2005
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/national/nationalspecial/07brown.ht
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'We've Been Disgraced!'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Thought he and his wife, try so hard to appear graceful; 
> 
> By wearing the proper clothes washed and well mated. 
> 
> And getting the proper excersize, keeping the heart rate down. 
> 
> All of this for the good of the public image. 
> 
> And image is what we want, we really do, want a; 
> 
> Good looking Pres. and First Lady right? 
> 
> But anyhow; 
> 
> Look what's happened, in the meantime; 
> 
> To how the United States has become: 
> 
> At home and abroad, people wonder; 
> 
> What happened to the "Good 'OLE U.S. of A. 
> 
> What happened is this:
> 
> We've lost our "Grace".
> 
> And
> 
> We've been disgraced!
> 
If you don't like the way things are in this country, why don't you 
leave and go to a better place? Or, at least vote.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

anonymousff wrote:
> I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has
> become the norm.
> 
Well, I guess now you're part of the norm. ROTFL!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen

Vaj wrote:
> "All of these problems are the gathering of karma."
>
So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the 
Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? If the 
theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an 
earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans?

Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Saved Through Dzogchen

2005-09-09 Thread Vaj

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Saved Through Dzogchen

Saw this and thought of dear Lhundrub. The Will to Love is the Law to Live - Best Wishes – V.

The Attitude to Take for Overcoming Natural Disasters
His Holiness Penor Rinpoche

7/1/2132--September 4, 2005

The present world is modernized and it is very easy for countries to communicate with each other. This has good -- and bad -- results. Everyone tells their own history and tries to explain events their way, according to internal political or religious pressures. At the same time, many religions exist in this world, as well as many qualified teachers. Anyone who is truly following their religion is thinking about how to solve the problems of this world. Meanwhile, most of the previously realized teachers have already shown us how to solve these problems for all of the beings in the universe.

But the times are now degenerating. Some of those following these religions and some who follow certain politics have gotten used to thinking and acting in a negative way. So it will not make a difference whether an individual is a good person or a bad person; we will be caused to suffer from difficulties because of our collective negative thoughts and actions. Of all these negative thoughts and actions, selfishness will create more difficulty than anything else.

That is why all the different kinds of religions are based on the benefit of all sentient beings and not focused on selfishness -- no matter what religion. Religions are for the benefit of peace and compassion for sentient beings, especially in the case of Buddhism. For us, we take vows to be helpful for all beings, without exception. We pray that we will not even use the space of one hair in a selfish way.

We already see that bad karma has the result of causing suffering. So then, of course, if we behave in a positive way, there will be benefit and fruition. If everyone -- no matter Buddhist or not, whether black or white -- prays and wishes for the same things, for happiness and peace on earth, then definitely things can be solved in a positive way.

Floods are the result of an imbalanced water element. There are also imbalances in the earth [such as earthquakes], fire [volcanoes] and air [tornados, typhoons and hurricanes]. If we are all living in harmony in the world, then naturally the elements will be balanced. Once harmonious, no imbalances will arise. [Tr. note: Rinpoche is referring to the example of sentient beings held like the objects in the pot of the elements. Once the inside is in balance, the pot will also be in balance].

When problems arise, like the Tsunami in Asia, or the flood in the United States, I personally feel very sad. It is physically hard to do anything to help.

We Tibetans also have recently faced so many problems. For example, for us, Guru Rinpoche and so many high lamas predicted we would encounter the problems we have met. They told us the method and how to solve the problems. But, because of degenerating times, collectively many of us had difficulty believing these predictions, which are hundreds, and sometimes thousands of years old. Because we collectively had difficulty believing in the truth, this came to be a difficult time for the Tibetans. Then, when the result came about, many people said, "Oh, we really made a big mistake." And a few even said, "Of course this was going to happen because we did not believe this prediction and follow the instructions."

So for us Tibetans, when we suffered, we suffered almost like a physical hell. Even still, we never gave up belief in the Three Jewels [Buddha, Dharma and Sangha].

All of these problems are the gathering of karma. [They are the consequences of our previous actions]. There is not anything to rejoice in or to regret because these are not one or two people's results, but all people's results. [Known as gathering or collective karma; Tib: Chin Thun]. Because of our past lifetimes in which we accumulated negative karma collectively, we must all collectively suffer the results. These results cannot be suffered by just one or two people.

We know that in the future we don't want this kind of suffering. So it doesn't matter what religion or color, we can build the positive collective karma together by loving each other and having compassion towards all sentient beings. This will make things better in the future so the positive result will come from the positive attitude.

COLOPHON

May the Guru remain in the world for a long time to come, may the light of His teachings pervade the sky of mind and bring happiness to all. We requested this teaching on the attitude to take in the cases of natural disasters from the compassionate one, Kyabje Drubwang Pema Norbu Rinpoche, who responded to our request with enthusiasm. The teaching was translated by Lama Lobsang Chophel and took place on September 4, 2005. May these efforts serve to awaken the absolute reality of Guru Padmasambhava in the hearts of all beings.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> > > FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on 
Thursday -- 
> > $50 
> > > billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion 
for 
> > its 
> > > rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 
million 
> > to 
> > > dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees in 
New 
> > > Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states.
> 
> Lots coming out on Brown, the head of FEMA, who will be in charge 
of
> that $50 billion.  As most know, he's been derided as a "horse 
lawyer"
> with no emergency management experience (he was a lawyer for the
> Arabian Horse Association from which he was ousted).  More on his
> official resume posted at FindLaw:
> 
> - his law school is not accredited and is regarded as a joke
> - he states he was on the Dean's List at his college in OK, but the
> college says NO he never was
> - he states he was given the award "outstanding political science
> professor" at his college, but the college says he was never a
> professor at all, much less an outstanding one
> -  he states he was Director of a christian nursing home, but the
> nursing home has never heard of him
> - he was let go from his first law job,



Well, at least that indicates he passed the bar, no?  Assuming you 
can't get a "law job" without being a lawyer.  So how bad could it 
be getting your law degree at an unaccredited school?



> according to his boss "there
> was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow".
> 
> and there's more at The New Republic and Time 
> http://tnr.com/user/nregi.mhtml?i=20050919&s=campos091905
> http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html
> 
> Even the New Republic is after him!!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at
> > > > > each other has become the norm.
> > > > 
> > > > Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think
> > > > that.
> > > 
> > > Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look
> > > at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post
> > > 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598.
> > 
> > You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two 
digits. 
> > What are you, dyslexic?
> 
> Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?!  You'd
> better run before I call down the wrath of Dog 
> on you!

...which reminds me of my favourite reality show "Dog the Bouty 
Hunter" who claims that he got the nickname "Dog" because it's "God" 
spelled backwards.

For those of you who love dysfunctional born-again bounty-hunting 
families, check out the show.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: I met Gurudev yesterday

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > He was a client...from India...first name: Gurudev.  Sikh from the 
> > Punjab.  Lives in a $1 million home in North West Phoenix.
> > 
> > I almost greeted him with a Movement-honed "Jai Guru Dev".
> 
> Naah-nakh?

No, no pictures of Guru Nanak on the walls that I saw...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high
> minimum-wage guidelines are enforced.  This will be particularly 
> helpful in getting teenagers or early-20s people who have little 
> skills back to at least some useful work.
> 
> I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics 
> behind it.  Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush 
> proposed it?

Are you asking me, or Sparaig?

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >  
> > > It gets ever more-insane. Hey Bush defenders, what's the
> > > rationale for THIS one?
> > > 
> > > http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?
> > > type=globalNews&storyID=2005-09-
> > 08T233912Z_01_SPI885129_RTRUKOC_0_US-
> > > BUSH-WAGES.xml&archived=False
> > > 
> > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an 
executive 
> > > order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in 
the 
> > > aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage.
> > 
> > Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece
> > about the heroic price-gougers:
> > 
> > "If this were a totalitarian country, the government might just 
order 
> > a bunch of tradesmen to go to New Orleans. But in a free society, 
> > those tradesmen must be persuaded to leave their homes and 
families, 
> > leave their employers and customers, and drive from say, 
Wisconsin, 
> > to take work in New Orleans. If they can't make more money in 
> > Louisiana than Wisconsin, why would they make the trip?
> > 
> > "Some may be motivated by a desire to be heroic, but we can't 
expect 
> > enough heroes to fill the need, week after week; most will travel 
> > there for the same reason most Americans go to work: to make 
money. 
> > Any tradesman who treks to a disaster area must get higher pay 
than 
> > he would get in his hometown, or he won't do the trek. Limit him 
to 
> > what his New Orleans colleagues charged before the storm, and 
even a 
> > would-be hero may say, "the heck with it."
> > 
> > "If he charges enough to justify his venture, he's likely to be 
> > condemned morally or legally by the very people he's trying to 
help. 
> > But they just don't understand basic economics. Force prices 
down, 
> > and you keep suppliers out. Let the market work, suppliers come --
 
> > and competition brings prices as low as the challenges of the 
> > disaster allow. Goods that were in short supply become available, 
> > even to the poor."





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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high minimum-
wage guidelines are enforced.  This will be particularly helpful in getting
teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at least some
useful work.

I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics behind
it.  Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush proposed it?  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> > It gets ever more-insane. Hey Bush defenders, what's the rationale 
> > for THIS one?
> > 
> > http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?
> > type=globalNews&storyID=2005-09-
> 08T233912Z_01_SPI885129_RTRUKOC_0_US-
> > BUSH-WAGES.xml&archived=False
> > 
> > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an executive 
> > order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the 
> > aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage.
> 
> Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece
> about the heroic price-gougers:
> 
> "If this were a totalitarian country, the government might just order 
> a bunch of tradesmen to go to New Orleans. But in a free society, 
> those tradesmen must be persuaded to leave their homes and families, 
> leave their employers and customers, and drive from say, Wisconsin, 
> to take work in New Orleans. If they can't make more money in 
> Louisiana than Wisconsin, why would they make the trip?
> 
> "Some may be motivated by a desire to be heroic, but we can't expect 
> enough heroes to fill the need, week after week; most will travel 
> there for the same reason most Americans go to work: to make money. 
> Any tradesman who treks to a disaster area must get higher pay than 
> he would get in his hometown, or he won't do the trek. Limit him to 
> what his New Orleans colleagues charged before the storm, and even a 
> would-be hero may say, "the heck with it."
> 
> "If he charges enough to justify his venture, he's likely to be 
> condemned morally or legally by the very people he's trying to help. 
> But they just don't understand basic economics. Force prices down, 
> and you keep suppliers out. Let the market work, suppliers come -- 
> and competition brings prices as low as the challenges of the 
> disaster allow. Goods that were in short supply become available, 
> even to the poor."





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall

Called putting your assets to good use...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> from the New York Times:
> 
> Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the 
> distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French 
> Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a 
> unusual way to make sure that police officers 
> regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a 
> bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles 
> that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/dshvd

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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

LOL!!  Great literature in the making...   :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at
> > > > each other has become the norm.
> > > 
> > > Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think
> > > that.
> > 
> > Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look
> > at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post
> > 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598.
> 
> HA!  It is you who is without clue!  You left off 
> the ' in "doesn't."  How can anyone put any faith 
> in what someone says who can't even spell?  You are
> obviously a CIA stooge planted here to foment dissat-
> isfaction in the TM ranks...we can tell because of
> your fondness for capital letters...probably a habit
> developed in a bureaucracy that thinks in acronyms.
> 
> As I pointed out in my post 3.14159265358979323846,
> and in several other posts in which I thoroughly
> demolished your arguments and pointed out the flaws
> in your logic and exposed your phoniness, your incon-
> sistency and your lies (not to mention your tiny dick), 
> you are not a relable source of information.  Go back 
> to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: "The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here"

You've clearly never run even a small corporation, Robert, much
less a large one.  Otherwise you'd realize what a crushing
sense of responsibility that is for any CEO who takes their
job seriously.

Learn before commenting.  Otherwise you sound pretty dumb...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> George must think, he's a CEO of a large corporation;
>  
> And that he's really not responsible for anything:
>   
> Because in a corporation, you can pass the buck, literally,
>  
> And quite easily,
>  
> Right?
>  
> Robert Gimbel
> 
>   
> -
>  Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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[FairfieldLife] Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Archer

Title: Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time





Very cool:

http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/ 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It gets ever more-insane. Hey Bush defenders, what's the rationale 
> for THIS one?
> 
> http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?
> type=globalNews&storyID=2005-09-
08T233912Z_01_SPI885129_RTRUKOC_0_US-
> BUSH-WAGES.xml&archived=False
> 
> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an executive 
> order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the 
> aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage.

Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece
about the heroic price-gougers:

"If this were a totalitarian country, the government might just order 
a bunch of tradesmen to go to New Orleans. But in a free society, 
those tradesmen must be persuaded to leave their homes and families, 
leave their employers and customers, and drive from say, Wisconsin, 
to take work in New Orleans. If they can't make more money in 
Louisiana than Wisconsin, why would they make the trip?

"Some may be motivated by a desire to be heroic, but we can't expect 
enough heroes to fill the need, week after week; most will travel 
there for the same reason most Americans go to work: to make money. 
Any tradesman who treks to a disaster area must get higher pay than 
he would get in his hometown, or he won't do the trek. Limit him to 
what his New Orleans colleagues charged before the storm, and even a 
would-be hero may say, "the heck with it."

"If he charges enough to justify his venture, he's likely to be 
condemned morally or legally by the very people he's trying to help. 
But they just don't understand basic economics. Force prices down, 
and you keep suppliers out. Let the market work, suppliers come -- 
and competition brings prices as low as the challenges of the 
disaster allow. Goods that were in short supply become available, 
even to the poor."

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> from the New York Times:
> 
> Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the 
> distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French 
> Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a 
> unusual way to make sure that police officers 
> regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a 
> bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles 
> that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/dshvd

Since many police departments, including the one
from New Orleans, have a specially-trained unit
called the Tactical Assault Team who are on duty 
in emergency situations such as this one, I think 
her strategy could be termed "tit for TAT."







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[FairfieldLife] Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall

from the New York Times:

Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the 
distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French 
Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a 
unusual way to make sure that police officers 
regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a 
bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles 
that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic.

http://tinyurl.com/dshvd




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[FairfieldLife] Another poem (was Re: what a snippy group)

Perfect!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strangely, I probably had a faint memory of this poem 
> somewhere in the back of my mind when I wrote the poo-
> poo head line.  Billy, before he was Poet Laureate, 
> went to the same college I did.  We used to get stoned 
> together.  He was funny then, and he's funny now.  :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > you are not a relable source of information.  Go back 
> > > to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head!
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/d4hoc
> > 
> > Child Development, by Billy Collins
> > 
> > As sure as prehistoric fish grew legs
> > and sauntered off the beaches into forests
> > working up some irregular verbs for their
> > first conversation, so three-year-old children
> > enter the phase of name-calling.
> > 
> > Every day a new one arrives and is added
> > to the repertoire. You Dumb Goopyhead,
> > You Big Sewerface, You Poop-on-the-Floor
> > (a kind of Navaho ring to that one)
> > they yell from knee level, their little mugs
> > flushed with challenge.
> > Nothing Samuel Johnson would bother tossing out
> > in a pub, but then the toddlers are not trying
> > to devastate some fatuous Enlightenment hack.
> > 
> > They are just tormenting their fellow squirts
> > or going after the attention of the giants
> > way up there with their cocktails and bad breath
> > talking baritone nonsense to other giants,
> > waiting to call them names after thanking
> > them for the lovely party and hearing the door close.
> > 
> > The mature save their hothead invective
> > for things: an errant hammer, tire chains,
> > or receding trains missed by seconds,
> > though they know in their adult hearts,
> > even as they threaten to banish Timmy to bed
> > for his appalling behavior,
> > that their bosses are Big Fatty Stupids,
> > their wives are Dopey Dopeheads
> > and that they themselves are Mr. Sillypants.
> > 
> > www.bigsnap.com




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[FairfieldLife] Another poem (was Re: what a snippy group)

Strangely, I probably had a faint memory of this poem 
somewhere in the back of my mind when I wrote the poo-
poo head line.  Billy, before he was Poet Laureate, 
went to the same college I did.  We used to get stoned 
together.  He was funny then, and he's funny now.  :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > 
> > you are not a relable source of information.  Go back 
> > to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head!
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/d4hoc
> 
> Child Development, by Billy Collins
> 
> As sure as prehistoric fish grew legs
> and sauntered off the beaches into forests
> working up some irregular verbs for their
> first conversation, so three-year-old children
> enter the phase of name-calling.
> 
> Every day a new one arrives and is added
> to the repertoire. You Dumb Goopyhead,
> You Big Sewerface, You Poop-on-the-Floor
> (a kind of Navaho ring to that one)
> they yell from knee level, their little mugs
> flushed with challenge.
> Nothing Samuel Johnson would bother tossing out
> in a pub, but then the toddlers are not trying
> to devastate some fatuous Enlightenment hack.
> 
> They are just tormenting their fellow squirts
> or going after the attention of the giants
> way up there with their cocktails and bad breath
> talking baritone nonsense to other giants,
> waiting to call them names after thanking
> them for the lovely party and hearing the door close.
> 
> The mature save their hothead invective
> for things: an errant hammer, tire chains,
> or receding trains missed by seconds,
> though they know in their adult hearts,
> even as they threaten to banish Timmy to bed
> for his appalling behavior,
> that their bosses are Big Fatty Stupids,
> their wives are Dopey Dopeheads
> and that they themselves are Mr. Sillypants.
> 
> www.bigsnap.com




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[FairfieldLife] Another poem (was Re: what a snippy group)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> you are not a relable source of information.  Go back 
> to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head!

http://tinyurl.com/d4hoc

Child Development, by Billy Collins

As sure as prehistoric fish grew legs
and sauntered off the beaches into forests
working up some irregular verbs for their
first conversation, so three-year-old children
enter the phase of name-calling.

Every day a new one arrives and is added
to the repertoire. You Dumb Goopyhead,
You Big Sewerface, You Poop-on-the-Floor
(a kind of Navaho ring to that one)
they yell from knee level, their little mugs
flushed with challenge.
Nothing Samuel Johnson would bother tossing out
in a pub, but then the toddlers are not trying
to devastate some fatuous Enlightenment hack.

They are just tormenting their fellow squirts
or going after the attention of the giants
way up there with their cocktails and bad breath
talking baritone nonsense to other giants,
waiting to call them names after thanking
them for the lovely party and hearing the door close.

The mature save their hothead invective
for things: an errant hammer, tire chains,
or receding trains missed by seconds,
though they know in their adult hearts,
even as they threaten to banish Timmy to bed
for his appalling behavior,
that their bosses are Big Fatty Stupids,
their wives are Dopey Dopeheads
and that they themselves are Mr. Sillypants.

www.bigsnap.com

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[FairfieldLife] God Bless Canada

2005-09-09 Thread markmeredith2002

Canadians Arrived In New Orleans Five Days Before The U.S. Military

http://www.halifaxlive.com/artman/publish/canadians_080905_660.shtml




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience

2005-09-09 Thread markmeredith2002

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on Thursday -- 
> $50 
> > billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion for 
> its 
> > rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 million 
> to 
> > dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees in New 
> > Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states.

Lots coming out on Brown, the head of FEMA, who will be in charge of
that $50 billion.  As most know, he's been derided as a "horse lawyer"
with no emergency management experience (he was a lawyer for the
Arabian Horse Association from which he was ousted).  More on his
official resume posted at FindLaw:

- his law school is not accredited and is regarded as a joke
- he states he was on the Dean's List at his college in OK, but the
college says NO he never was
- he states he was given the award "outstanding political science
professor" at his college, but the college says he was never a
professor at all, much less an outstanding one
-  he states he was Director of a christian nursing home, but the
nursing home has never heard of him
- he was let go from his first law job, according to his boss "there
was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow".

and there's more at The New Republic and Time 
http://tnr.com/user/nregi.mhtml?i=20050919&s=campos091905
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html

Even the New Republic is after him!!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at
> > > > each other has become the norm.
> > > 
> > > Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think
> > > that.
> > 
> > Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look
> > at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post
> > 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598.
> 
> You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two digits. 
> What are you, dyslexic?

Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?!  You'd
better run before I call down the wrath of Dog 
on you!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at
> > > each other has become the norm.
> > 
> > Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think
> > that.
> 
> Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look
> at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post
> 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598.

HA!  It is you who is without clue!  You left off 
the ' in "doesn't."  How can anyone put any faith 
in what someone says who can't even spell?  You are
obviously a CIA stooge planted here to foment dissat-
isfaction in the TM ranks...we can tell because of
your fondness for capital letters...probably a habit
developed in a bureaucracy that thinks in acronyms.

As I pointed out in my post 3.14159265358979323846,
and in several other posts in which I thoroughly
demolished your arguments and pointed out the flaws
in your logic and exposed your phoniness, your incon-
sistency and your lies (not to mention your tiny dick), 
you are not a relable source of information.  Go back 
to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head!

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