[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
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> And, in other news, today marks ten years of sobriety for me.

Congratulations.  More of an achievement than 
most of the realization experiences discussed
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique? (a double-edge sword?)

2005-12-29 Thread John
Peter, Judy and all,

In my waking consciousness today, I went to see an Egyptian exhibit 
at the new De Young Museum in San Francisco, CA.  The dream last 
night was some kind of a premonition of what was to come later on the 
day.

The zombies appear to have represented the various Egyptian statues 
and artifacts, including a sarcophagus, that I saw at the museum.

The young girl and the mother in the dream represented all the 
families that packed the museum floor.  Any of them could have come 
from various parts of the country, including Virginia.

By the way, for those who are planning to visit San Francisco in the 
near future, you should definitely see the De Young Museum.

Regards,

John R.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > To all members:
> > 
> > Witnessing your dreams can be a double-edged sword. 
> > Last night, I 
> > had a scary and heart-thumping dream (in full
> > technicolor) of zombies 
> > hiding behind metal panels and who disappeared,
> > leaving their mortal 
> > clothes behind, when a minister flashed a crucifix
> > in their breasts.  
> > This was a unique version of the Dracula movies.
> > 
> > Then, on the next dream, I met a beautiful young
> > woman who was 
> > willing to be my girlfriend and met her mother who
> > was living in a 
> > dilapidated house in Virginia, near Washington DC.
> > 
> > Are there any dream readers in this forum?  If so,
> > please let us know 
> > what you think about this story.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > John R.
> 
> I think it means you need more heavy metals in your
> diet ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > 
> > > > on 12/29/05 11:10 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Rick Archer
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I actually got two night techniques, one at
> > Estes Park as my 
> > 2nd  
> > > >>> technique, one on my 6-month course. Neither
> > of them was what 
> > you  
> > > >>> described, but one of them could have been a
> > simple version of 
> > it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes. That's why I suspect they may be teaching
> > it. If you want 
> > to  
> > > >> witness deep sleep, rest your awareness in your
> > heart center or  
> > > >> feel your mantra there gently and go to sleep.
> > > >>
> > > > I'm reluctant to describe my night techniques,
> > because I respect  
> > > > the bit about the privacy of personal
> > instruction, but once, in  
> > > > front of about 300 people, Maharishi told me to
> > meditate half an  
> > > > hour before sleep. I've been doing that most
> > nights ever since.
> > > 
> > > I think it's sufficient to mention the general
> > principles of what 
> > it  
> > > is and let people find what works for them. I know
> > I was very 
> > happy  
> > > to know what these things were about and where
> > they came from--it  
> > > made me happy and was reassuring. Then knowing
> > that, if it wasn't  
> > > explained well enough, at least you had the bigger
> > picture...and  
> > > perhaps the freedom to experiment.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mention of "new" night technique

2005-12-29 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> It's a steal.  I wonder if there's a money-back gurantee if it doesn't 
> work.
> 
> Sal
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Vaj wrote:
> 
> > The Maharishi Vedic Vibration consultations fees in the U.S. are:
$900 
> > for each standard disorder. Payment is by credit card only (Visa, MC, 
> > Discover or American Express). 
> >  
> > NOTE: First-time consultations for Cancer, Paralysis and Full-body 
> > Whiplash require 12 sessions - $3,600 for the non-standard 12-session 
> > consultation for one disorder.
> >  
>

I wonder if 'full body whiplash' is related to what happens when hear
the price?

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Do You or a Friend Have Diabetes?

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Do You or a Friend Have Diabetes?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweet Dreams Are Made of Cheese

2005-12-29 Thread bbrigante
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> Sweet Dreams Are Made Of Cheese
> 
> The age old myth that cheese gives you nightmares has finally been 
> laid to rest this week following the release of a new study 
carried 
> out by the British Cheese Board. 
> 
> The in-depth Cheese & Dreams study, a first of its kind, reveals 
that 
> eating cheese before bed will not only aid a good night's sleep 
but 
> different cheeses will in fact cause different types of dreams
> 



http://www.www.mapi.com/en/newsletters/toxin_detoxification.html

"The most important thing is to eat your main meal at noon, when the 
sun is strongest and the digestive fire reflects that strength. If 
you eat too much at night, or eat heavy foods such as meat or cheese 
then, the food will sit in your stomach and create ama. Eat light at 
night and your food will be easily digested before you go to sleep." 






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[FairfieldLife] How to bypass phone trees, get a real human

2005-12-29 Thread purushaz
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This useful website has phone code numbers which will enable you to
bypass robot phone trees and get a real human on the line.
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[FairfieldLife] Sweet Dreams Are Made of Cheese

2005-12-29 Thread authfriend
Sweet Dreams Are Made Of Cheese

The age old myth that cheese gives you nightmares has finally been 
laid to rest this week following the release of a new study carried 
out by the British Cheese Board. 

The in-depth Cheese & Dreams study, a first of its kind, reveals that 
eating cheese before bed will not only aid a good night's sleep but 
different cheeses will in fact cause different types of dreams

Different Cheeses for Different Dreams 

Red Leicester proved to be brilliant for helping participants to get 
a good night's sleep – one quarter slept well every single night of 
the study, and 83% of all nights under the influence of Red Leicester 
were good sleep experiences. As for dreams, Red Leicester is the 
cheese to choose if you are feeling nostalgic about your past – over 
60% of participants eating this cheese revisited their schooldays, or 
long-lost childhood friends, or previous family homes and hometowns.
 
Stilton-eating participants enjoyed their sleep too – over two thirds 
had good sleep experiences during five out of the seven nights. 
However, if you want some vivid or crazy dreams, the King of British 
cheeses is the one for you – particularly if you are female. While 
75% of men in this category experienced odd and vivid dreams, a 
massive 85% of females who ate Stilton had some of the most bizarre 
dreams of the whole study – although none were described as bad 
experiences. Highlights included talking soft toys, lifts that move 
sideways, a vegetarian crocodile upset because it could not eat 
children, dinner party guests being traded for camels, soldiers 
fighting with each other with kittens instead of guns and a party in 
a lunatic asylum.
 
British Brie caused all participants to sleep very well, but dreams 
varied between males and females; women tended to experience very 
nice dreams, such as Jamie Oliver cooking dinner in their kitchens, 
or relaxing on a sunny beach. By contrast, the men who ate Brie 
experienced rather odd, obscure dreams, such as driving against a 
battleship, or having a drunken conversation with a dog.
 
If you are thinking of changing career, or just suspect there could 
be a slightly more ideal job out there, snack on a lump of creamy 
Lancashire before bed and you might get some guidance; two thirds of 
all Lancashire participants had a dream about work – but only 30% of 
these involved the participants' real-life occupations. One ambitious 
dreamer saw herself as a successful Prime Minister - one of her 
popular reforms involved teaching useful finance in schools, 
including how to choose the right mortgage.
 
Cheddar -eating participants tended to dream of celebrities, ranging 
from the participant's family sitting in a pub with Jordan, to a 
Glaswegian old firm football match with Gazza and Ally McCoist. 
Ashley from Coronation Street also featured, as did the cast of 
Emmerdale - and one lucky girl helped to form a human pyramid under 
the supervision of Johnny Depp.
 
However, if you just want a good night's sleep without too many 
dreams, then choose lovely crumbly Cheshire . In this category, over 
half of all nights were dreamless, while participants stated that 76% 
of all Cheshire-induced sleeps were either "quite good" or "very 
good".

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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
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> And, in other news, today marks ten years of sobriety for me.

Happy Soberversary!  Congratulations.  That's a real
achievement.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 12/29/05 9:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Widespread alcoholism is probably more destructive
> > > > of the social fabric than a small percentage of
> > > > murderous nutters.
> > > 
> > > We've got plenty of both. And meth use is now epidemic. 6 months
> > > of it does as much damage as many years of hard drinking.
> > 
> 
> 
> > The Faces of Meth:
> > 
> > http://www.lifeormeth.com/facesofmeth
> >
> 
> *
> 
> http://www.dpft.org/sciencenotes.htm#note2
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique? (a double-edge sword?)

2005-12-29 Thread Peter


--- John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To all members:
> 
> Witnessing your dreams can be a double-edged sword. 
> Last night, I 
> had a scary and heart-thumping dream (in full
> technicolor) of zombies 
> hiding behind metal panels and who disappeared,
> leaving their mortal 
> clothes behind, when a minister flashed a crucifix
> in their breasts.  
> This was a unique version of the Dracula movies.
> 
> Then, on the next dream, I met a beautiful young
> woman who was 
> willing to be my girlfriend and met her mother who
> was living in a 
> dilapidated house in Virginia, near Washington DC.
> 
> Are there any dream readers in this forum?  If so,
> please let us know 
> what you think about this story.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John R.

I think it means you need more heavy metals in your
diet ;-)




> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > > on 12/29/05 11:10 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Rick Archer
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I actually got two night techniques, one at
> Estes Park as my 
> 2nd  
> > >>> technique, one on my 6-month course. Neither
> of them was what 
> you  
> > >>> described, but one of them could have been a
> simple version of 
> it.
> > >>
> > >> Yes. That's why I suspect they may be teaching
> it. If you want 
> to  
> > >> witness deep sleep, rest your awareness in your
> heart center or  
> > >> feel your mantra there gently and go to sleep.
> > >>
> > > I'm reluctant to describe my night techniques,
> because I respect  
> > > the bit about the privacy of personal
> instruction, but once, in  
> > > front of about 300 people, Maharishi told me to
> meditate half an  
> > > hour before sleep. I've been doing that most
> nights ever since.
> > 
> > I think it's sufficient to mention the general
> principles of what 
> it  
> > is and let people find what works for them. I know
> I was very 
> happy  
> > to know what these things were about and where
> they came from--it  
> > made me happy and was reassuring. Then knowing
> that, if it wasn't  
> > explained well enough, at least you had the bigger
> picture...and  
> > perhaps the freedom to experiment.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > on 12/29/05 9:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > Widespread alcoholism is probably more destructive
> > > of the social fabric than a small percentage of
> > > murderous nutters.
> > 
> > We've got plenty of both. And meth use is now epidemic. 6 months
> > of it does as much damage as many years of hard drinking.
> 


> The Faces of Meth:
> 
> http://www.lifeormeth.com/facesofmeth
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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sri. Brigante, if Britain is ScorpionLand, 
> > > then, is America a Centipede-Land.??
> > > Take India for example, One out of 
> > > every 10 child in india is Sexualy abused.
> > > http://www.childrensrightsindia.org/Help_girl%20child.htm
> > >
> > >   OriginalMessage-
> > >   From: "bbrigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:12:43 - 
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] "New disease" in Scorpionland 
> > > 
> > > "The media is full of images and stories of Britain's 
> > increasing culture of heavy boozing - particularly among young 
women. 
> > >   
> > >   Tony Blair has labelled it as "a new British disease"And 
if 
> > you're left thinking that my five-night-a-week binge was 
extreme, 
> > remember, 
> > > it's only what 8.2 million people do in Britain every week."
> > >   
> > >   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4550362.stm 
> > 
> > A few girls throwing up in the streets at 2.00am
> > is not good, bbrigante. But they don't carry 
> > hand guns. This is the 25th anniversary of John 
> > Lennon's death. We have nutters. They don't carry 
> > guns. Nobody does. (A tiny percentage of criminals
> > do, I suppose).
> > You have pushed out the boundaries of foolishness,
> > bbrigante. You haven't a clue.
> > Uns.
> 


> Britain got on MMY's shitlist when blair got reelected, which upset
> MMY because blair supported the iraq war.  Of course, bush and the 
US
> were the prime movers of that war (with blair-britain along for the
> allied ride), which means the US should really be at the top of the
> shitlist, which it isn't because the US is still supplying MMY with
> most of his million dollar course participants and Britain isn't.
> 
> It's so embarrassingly stupid that people are actually thinking
> britain has suddenly become some evil country, cherrypicking 
negative
> stories from the mass media and ignoring similar stories from every
> other country in the world.
>

***

The fact that MMY raised the price of instruction for TM in all 
countries but India really indicates that he regards all countries 
other than India as "scorpionland" -- the singling out of the UK is 
just symbolic -- all countries in the Kaliyuga are countries of 
evil, but it is India alone that can manage the phase transition to 
coherent national consciousness:

In his press conference of 13Apr2005 at mou.org, Maharishi said 
that "As Indian national consciousness rises in coherence -- which 
is the basis of invincibility for the nation then world 
consciousness will rise in coherence which is the basis of permanent 
world peace...One sun rises, but its innumerable rays spread light 
everywhere...So it's natural for the influence of coherence to 
spread from India to the whole world." In the mou.org Press 
Conference 26 June 2002, Maharishi said: "India is the only country 
which can assume a parental role for every country of the world with 
this knowledge of the Veda, with this total knowledge of Natural 
Law, the Will of God. And everything is possible under the 
protective nature of the Will of God, invincible God." 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique? (a double-edge sword?)

2005-12-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To all members:
> 
> Witnessing your dreams can be a double-edged sword.  Last night, I 
> had a scary and heart-thumping dream (in full technicolor) of
> zombies hiding behind metal panels and who disappeared, leaving 
> their mortal clothes behind, when a minister flashed a crucifix in 
> their breasts.
>
> This was a unique version of the Dracula movies.
> 
> Then, on the next dream, I met a beautiful young woman who was 
> willing to be my girlfriend and met her mother who was living in a 
> dilapidated house in Virginia, near Washington DC.
> 
> Are there any dream readers in this forum?  If so, please let us 
> know what you think about this story.

I'm not a dream reader, but I read something once
that made instant sense to me and that has helped
me have some very useful insights into my own
dreams:

Every character (and significant object) in a dream
should be understood as symbolic of--a metaphor for--
some aspect of yourself.  (The sole exceptions are
members of your immediate family, who "play
themselves.")

I don't know whether this is "right" or not, but it
seems eminently plausible.  In any case, it's not
clear that there is any "right" interpretation of a
dream, or rather that any interpretation you make is
"right" in some sense: it isn't the dream, in other
words, that is meaningful, so much as what you make
of it.






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[FairfieldLife] Happy Kwanzaa everybody!

2005-12-29 Thread shempmcgurk
Kwanzaa: A Holiday from the FBI  
By Ann Coulter
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 29, 2005

President Bush's 2005 Kwanzaa message began with the patently absurd 
statement: "African-Americans and people around the world reflect on 
African heritage during Kwanzaa." 

I believe more African-Americans spent this season reflecting on the 
birth of Christ than some phony non-Christian holiday invented a few 
decades ago by an FBI stooge. Kwanzaa is a holiday for white 
liberals, not blacks. 

It is a fact that Kwanzaa was invented in 1966 by a black radical 
FBI stooge, Ron Karenga, aka Dr. Maulana Karenga. Karenga was a 
founder of United Slaves, a violent nationalist rival to the Black 
Panthers and a dupe of the FBI. 

In what was probably ultimately a foolish gamble, during the madness 
of the '60s the FBI encouraged the most extreme black nationalist 
organizations in order to discredit and split the left. The more 
preposterous the organization, the better. Karenga's United Slaves 
was perfect. In the annals of the American '60s, Karenga was the 
Father Gapon, stooge of the czarist police. 

Despite modern perceptions that blend all the black activists of 
the '60s, the Black Panthers did not hate whites. They did not seek 
armed revolution. Those were the precepts of Karenga's United 
Slaves. United Slaves were proto-fascists, walking around in 
dashikis, gunning down Black Panthers and adopting 
invented "African" names. (That was a big help to the black 
community: How many boys named "Jamal" currently sit on death row?) 

Whether Karenga was a willing dupe, or just a dupe, remains unclear. 
Curiously, in a 1995 interview with Ethnic NewsWatch, Karenga matter-
of-factly explained that the forces out to get O.J. Simpson for 
the "framed" murder of two whites included: "the FBI, the CIA, the 
State Department, Interpol, the Chicago Police Department" and so 
on. Karenga should know about FBI infiltration. (He further noted 
that the evidence against O.J. "was not strong enough to prohibit or 
eliminate unreasonable doubt" – an interesting standard of proof.) 

In the category of the-gentleman-doth-protest-too-much, back in 
the '70s, Karenga was quick to criticize rumors that black radicals 
were government-supported. When Nigerian newspapers claimed that 
some American black radicals were CIA operatives, Karenga publicly 
denounced the idea, saying, "Africans must stop generalizing about 
the loyalties and motives of Afro-Americans, including the 
widespread suspicion of black Americans being CIA agents." 

Now we know that the FBI fueled the bloody rivalry between the 
Panthers and United Slaves. In one barbarous outburst, Karenga's 
United Slaves shot to death Black Panthers Al "Bunchy" Carter and 
Deputy Minister John Huggins on the UCLA campus. Karenga himself 
served time, a useful stepping-stone for his current position as a 
black studies professor at California State University at Long 
Beach. 

Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black 
racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa praise 
collectivism in every possible arena of life – economics, work, 
personality, even litter removal. ("Kuumba: Everyone should strive 
to improve the community and make it more beautiful.") It takes a 
village to raise a police snitch. 

When Karenga was asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy 
underlying Kwanzaa, from "classical Marxism," he essentially 
explained that under Kawaida, we also hate whites. While taking 
the "best of early Chinese and Cuban socialism" – which one assumes 
would exclude the forced abortions, imprisonment for homosexuals and 
forced labor – Kawaida practitioners believe one's racial 
identity "determines life conditions, life chances and self-
understanding." There's an inclusive philosophy for you. 


(Sing to "Jingle Bells")
Kwanzaa bells, dashikis sell
Whitey has to pay;
Burning, shooting, oh what fun
On this made-up holiday! 


Coincidentally, the seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same 
seven principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another charming 
invention of the Least-Great Generation. In 1974, Patricia Hearst, 
kidnap victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the banner of her 
alleged captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snake head stood for one 
of the SLA's revolutionary principles: Umoja, Kujichagulia, Ujima, 
Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba and Imani – the same seven "principles" of 
Kwanzaa. 

With his Kwanzaa greetings, President Bush is saluting the 
intellectual sibling of the Symbionese Liberation Army, killer of 
housewives and police. He is saluting the founder of United Slaves, 
who were such lunatics that they shot Panthers for not being 
sufficiently insane – all with the FBI as their covert ally. 

It's as if David Duke invented a holiday called "Anglika," and the 
president of the United States issued a presidential proclamation 
honoring the synthetic holiday. People might well stand up and take 
notice if

[FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique? (a double-edge sword?)

2005-12-29 Thread John
To all members:

Witnessing your dreams can be a double-edged sword.  Last night, I 
had a scary and heart-thumping dream (in full technicolor) of zombies 
hiding behind metal panels and who disappeared, leaving their mortal 
clothes behind, when a minister flashed a crucifix in their breasts.  
This was a unique version of the Dracula movies.

Then, on the next dream, I met a beautiful young woman who was 
willing to be my girlfriend and met her mother who was living in a 
dilapidated house in Virginia, near Washington DC.

Are there any dream readers in this forum?  If so, please let us know 
what you think about this story.

Regards,

John R.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > on 12/29/05 11:10 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
> >>
> >>> I actually got two night techniques, one at Estes Park as my 
2nd  
> >>> technique, one on my 6-month course. Neither of them was what 
you  
> >>> described, but one of them could have been a simple version of 
it.
> >>
> >> Yes. That's why I suspect they may be teaching it. If you want 
to  
> >> witness deep sleep, rest your awareness in your heart center or  
> >> feel your mantra there gently and go to sleep.
> >>
> > I'm reluctant to describe my night techniques, because I respect  
> > the bit about the privacy of personal instruction, but once, in  
> > front of about 300 people, Maharishi told me to meditate half an  
> > hour before sleep. I've been doing that most nights ever since.
> 
> I think it's sufficient to mention the general principles of what 
it  
> is and let people find what works for them. I know I was very 
happy  
> to know what these things were about and where they came from--it  
> made me happy and was reassuring. Then knowing that, if it wasn't  
> explained well enough, at least you had the bigger picture...and  
> perhaps the freedom to experiment.
>






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/29/05 11:10 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote:I actually got two night techniques, one at Estes Park as my 2nd technique, one on my 6-month course. Neither of them was what you described, but one of them could have been a simple version of it. Yes. That's why I suspect they may be teaching it. If you want to witness deep sleep, rest your awareness in your heart center or feel your mantra there gently and go to sleep.I’m reluctant to describe my night techniques, because I respect the bit about the privacy of personal instruction, but once, in front of about 300 people, Maharishi told me to meditate half an hour before sleep. I’ve been doing that most nights ever since. I think it's sufficient to mention the general principles of what it is and let people find what works for them. I know I was very happy to know what these things were about and where they came from--it made me happy and was reassuring. Then knowing that, if it wasn't explained well enough, at least you had the bigger picture...and perhaps the freedom to experiment.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?





on 12/29/05 11:10 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

I actually got two night techniques, one at Estes Park as my 2nd technique, one on my 6-month course. Neither of them was what you described, but one of them could have been a simple version of it. 

Yes. That's why I suspect they may be teaching it. If you want to witness deep sleep, rest your awareness in your heart center or feel your mantra there gently and go to sleep.

I’m reluctant to describe my night techniques, because I respect the bit about the privacy of personal instruction, but once, in front of about 300 people, Maharishi told me to meditate half an hour before sleep. I’ve been doing that most nights ever since.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote:I actually got two night techniques, one at Estes Park as my 2nd technique, one on my 6-month course. Neither of them was what you described, but one of them could have been a simple version of it. Yes. That's why I suspect they may be teaching it. If you want to witness deep sleep, rest your awareness in your heart center or feel your mantra there gently and go to sleep.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Mention of "new" night technique

2005-12-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
It's a steal.  I wonder if there's a money-back gurantee if it doesn't work.

Sal


On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Vaj wrote:

The Maharishi Vedic Vibration consultations fees in the U.S. are: $900 for each standard disorder. Payment is by credit card only (Visa, MC, Discover or American Express). 
 
NOTE: First-time consultations for Cancer, Paralysis and Full-body Whiplash require 12 sessions - $3,600 for the non-standard 12-session consultation for one disorder.
 

[FairfieldLife] JFAN meeting Jan 3 to sign petition

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
Title: JFAN meeting Jan 3 to sign petition





-- Forwarded Message
From: JFAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:02:29 -0800
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: JFAN meeting Jan 3 to sign petition

Dear JFAN friends:
 
On this Tuesday, January 3rd, there will be a meeting at 7:15 pm at the Fairfield Public Library.  We urge you to attend to sign a petition against large-scale, corporate-owned factory farms. This petition is being coordinated with six other state-wide groups.  It will be presented to Governor Vilsack and other state officials within a week.  
 
Other lobbying procedures will also be discussed, such as direct letter writing to elected state office-holders, the making of a video on factory farms, a new Local Control campaign coordinated with Jefferson County officials, and more. Important updates on other JFAN activities will also be presented.
 
Please come! We need your signature and informed participation. Let’s change our legislators’ thinking about factory farms in Iowa.
 
All are welcome. We hope to end by 8:30 pm. Please pass this email on to your friends and neighbors. If you have any questions, call us at 209-6600 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
Sincerely,
JFAN Board
P.S. Please note these two important updates:
 
1.    On December 27, the Jefferson County Board of Supervisors unanimously approved another year of the Matrix guidelines that regulate large CAFOs. While limited in scope, this regulation is very important for local citizens. It is the only opportunity for local comment or information on CAFOs planned in the area.
 
2.    A few weeks ago, 80 of you responded to our suggestion to contact the EPC/DNR regarding proposed rules for ground water pollution control for CAFOs.  Jefferson County was responsible for the vast majority of the emails sent to the EPC/DNR. That’s fantastic! Thank you!

The DNR decided not to ask the EPC for an emergency ruling, but EPC/DNR decided on a 60-day period for public comment. At the December meeting, about 20 citizens spoke in favor of the new rules. Several of the “big guns” from the pork industry and the Iowa Farm Bureau “passed” on their opportunity to comment. It is quite obvious they are marshalling their support to defeat the proposal.  Many comments from the public will be needed to outweigh the heavily funded campaign they will be presenting. The next EPC meeting is Jan. 17 and it is VERY important that citizens contact/support the EPC on this new rule regarding licensing requirements. We will be contacting you in the near future about actions you can take. 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?





on 12/29/05 10:29 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Ingegerd wrote:


What is Gaudapada?
 

Shankara's masters master (his "grandmaster").

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Ingegerd wrote:What is Gaudapada? Shankara's masters master (his "grandmaster").





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:Too much techniqianity for me. I'd rather eat the carrots. Then keep it simple.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > on 12/29/05 9:33 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >> The oral tradition of Gaudapada contains a nighttime technique/ 
> >> upaya for facilitating and integrating CC (turiyatita). It's in  
> >> the tradition of Shankaracharyas, the Holy trad. We've talked  
> >> about it here before.
> >>
> > Can you remind us what the technique is, or is it private?
> 
> It's basically learning to integrate the witness of sleep, the  
> witness of dreaming and the witness of deep sleep as one through  
> understanding where those events occur in the pranic body. Once that 
 
> integration is complete you can control sleep. In other words, you  
> can decide "I will go to sleep for two hours" and then do that, by  
> your will. Waking is associated with head centers, dreaming the  
> throat and deep sleep the heart center.  The extent to which you can 
 
> get the prana to enter in the innermost subtle channel is the extent 
 
> to which you will be successful.
> 
> In some traditions this is facilitated by actually sleeping in your  
> meditation posture.
> 
> This is not instruction for practice, but just a general
> description.

Too much techniqianity for me. I'd rather eat the carrots.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> on 12/29/05 7:47 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > I just got the advert on the new night technique now being 
taught.
> 
> In what form did you get it? Can you post it?
> > 
> > Anyone know what this one is?
> > 
> > Maybe they're going to finally teach Gaudapada?
> 
> What does that mean? The first advanced technique used to be a 
night
> technique.

What is Gaudapada?
Ingegerd
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/29/05 9:33 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The oral tradition of Gaudapada contains a nighttime technique/upaya for facilitating and integrating CC (turiyatita). It's in the tradition of Shankaracharyas, the Holy trad. We've talked about it here before.Can you remind us what the technique is, or is it private? It's basically learning to integrate the witness of sleep, the witness of dreaming and the witness of deep sleep as one through understanding where those events occur in the pranic body. Once that integration is complete you can control sleep. In other words, you can decide "I will go to sleep for two hours" and then do that, by your will. Waking is associated with head centers, dreaming the throat and deep sleep the heart center.  The extent to which you can get the prana to enter in the innermost subtle channel is the extent to which you will be successful.In some traditions this is facilitated by actually sleeping in your meditation posture.This is not instruction for practice, but just a general description.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:01 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  The Faces of Meth:  http://www.lifeormeth.com/facesofmeth  Powerful statement.  I once saw a set of "Before  and After" photos that someone had put together  of people who practiced channeling.  Same kind  of degradation, same time frame. Yes exactly--extreme vata exacerbation, and addiction to that process of exacerbation. Having to release your own life force to let something else "enter" or "come through" ain't good for the stability of your own life force!I remember doing the sidhi program and having this spontaneously happen. At first I didn't know what was going on, as my mind would go completely blank. Then I began to hear the lingering echo in the room (we had a cathedral ceiling) when I "came to". It was that loud. Scary coz it wasn't "me" talking.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] The new night technique?





on 12/29/05 9:33 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

The oral tradition of Gaudapada contains a nighttime technique/upaya for facilitating and integrating CC (turiyatita). It's in the tradition of Shankaracharyas, the Holy trad. We've talked about it here before.

Can you remind us what the technique is, or is it private?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/29/05 9:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi
>>> prescribed it
 for that reason too, in certain contexts.
 
>>> 
>>> That might be, but I doubt he had FFL in mind as one of those
>>> contexts!
>> 
>> Does FFL have to be "officially approved" in order to be a
>> legitimate place to discuss experiences?
> 
> Jeez, Rick, *you* cited MMY's approval "in certain
> contexts" to support the discussion of experiences.
> If you didn't think that lent some legitimacy, why
> did you even mention it?

That's a good point, but I said that to have some influence on Lawson. For
me, whether Maharishi would consider a particular "context" appropriate or
not is no longer an issue.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Faces of Meth:
> 
> http://www.lifeormeth.com/facesofmeth

Powerful statement.  I once saw a set of "Before 
and After" photos that someone had put together 
of people who practiced channeling.  Same kind 
of degradation, same time frame.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 12/29/05 9:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Widespread alcoholism is probably more destructive
> > of the social fabric than a small percentage of
> > murderous nutters.
> 
> We've got plenty of both. And meth use is now epidemic. 6 months
> of it does as much damage as many years of hard drinking.

The Faces of Meth:

http://www.lifeormeth.com/facesofmeth






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Re: [FairfieldLife] The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/29/05 7:47 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I just got the advert on the new night technique now being taught.  In what form did you get it? Can you post it?  Anyone know what this one is?  Maybe they're going to finally teach Gaudapada?  What does that mean? The first advanced technique used to be a night technique. The oral tradition of Gaudapada contains a nighttime technique/upaya for facilitating and integrating CC (turiyatita). It's in the tradition of Shankaracharyas, the Holy trad. We've talked about it here before.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/29/05 9:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Widespread alcoholism is probably more destructive of the social fabric than a small percentage of murderous nutters.  We've got plenty of both. And meth use is now epidemic. 6 months of it does as much damage as many years of hard drinking. Has anyone ever considered that because of the neuroplastic nature of the cortex/brain that long term practice of the TMSP actually causes brain damage? I mean it brings up a good question, what types of changes are *good changes*. What if a teacher propounded a teaching that was completely against the grain of his own tradition but people still fell for it? Certainly long term use would cause changes, but would they be *good or beneficial changes*? Or could they cause delusions and anxiety?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi
> > > >> prescribed it for that reason too, in certain contexts.
> > > > 
> > > > That might be, but I doubt he had FFL in mind as one of those
> > > > contexts!
> > > 
> > > Does FFL have to be "officially approved" in order to be a 
> > > legitimate place to discuss experiences?
> > 
> > Well, actually, yes.  That IS, after all, the real
> > issue.  The official movement Kool-Aid says that
> > Bad Things will happen to you if you do anything
> > that they have not approved.  Those who drank the
> > Kool-Aid actually believe that.
> 
> Right, because, of course, no TMO pre- or proscription
> has any validity whatsoever, simply *because* it's
> promulgated by the TMO.
> 
> Therefore, any such pre- or proscription can be
> dismissed out of hand; no need to evaluate it on its
> own terms.

Those who drank the Kool-Aid also often feel
irrationally threatened when anyone challenges
the Kool-Aid dogma.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 12/29/05 9:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Widespread alcoholism is probably more destructive
> > of the social fabric than a small percentage of
> > murderous nutters.
> 
> We've got plenty of both. And meth use is now epidemic.
> 6 months of it does as much damage as many years of hard
> drinking.

As I said (and you snipped), the U.S. has lots of
problems that the U.K. does not have.

However, from what I've been reading, the U.K.'s current
problem with alcoholism is significantly more severe
than that in the U.S.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi
> > >> prescribed it for that reason too, in certain contexts.
> > > 
> > > That might be, but I doubt he had FFL in mind as one of those
> > > contexts!
> > 
> > Does FFL have to be "officially approved" in order to be a 
> > legitimate place to discuss experiences?
> 
> Well, actually, yes.  That IS, after all, the real
> issue.  The official movement Kool-Aid says that
> Bad Things will happen to you if you do anything
> that they have not approved.  Those who drank the
> Kool-Aid actually believe that.

Right, because, of course, no TMO pre- or proscription
has any validity whatsoever, simply *because* it's
promulgated by the TMO.

Therefore, any such pre- or proscription can be
dismissed out of hand; no need to evaluate it on its
own terms.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/29/05 9:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Widespread alcoholism is probably more destructive
> of the social fabric than a small percentage of
> murderous nutters.

We've got plenty of both. And meth use is now epidemic. 6 months of it does
as much damage as many years of hard drinking.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >> I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi
> >> prescribed it for that reason too, in certain contexts.
> > 
> > That might be, but I doubt he had FFL in mind as one of those
> > contexts!
> 
> Does FFL have to be "officially approved" in order to be a 
> legitimate place to discuss experiences?

Well, actually, yes.  That IS, after all, the real
issue.  The official movement Kool-Aid says that
Bad Things will happen to you if you do anything
that they have not approved.  Those who drank the
Kool-Aid actually believe that.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >> I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi
> > prescribed it
> >> for that reason too, in certain contexts.
> >> 
> > 
> > That might be, but I doubt he had FFL in mind as one of those
> > contexts!
> 
> Does FFL have to be "officially approved" in order to be a 
> legitimate place to discuss experiences?

Jeez, Rick, *you* cited MMY's approval "in certain
contexts" to support the discussion of experiences.
If you didn't think that lent some legitimacy, why
did you even mention it?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/29/05 7:47 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I just got the advert on the new night technique now being taught.

In what form did you get it? Can you post it?
> 
> Anyone know what this one is?
> 
> Maybe they're going to finally teach Gaudapada?

What does that mean? The first advanced technique used to be a night
technique.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How I learned TM

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/29/05 8:05 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> on 12/28/05 6:08 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did he ever go 12-step? TM is wonderful, yadda,
>> yadda, but MMY often
>>> (always?) added that it was good to address
>> specific illnesses with
>>> medicine (and other treatments) rather than use TM
>> as a cure-all (at
>>> least inthe short-run).
>> 
>> He might have gone to one or two AA meetings but he
>> never really
>> acknowledged that he had a problem, although he had
>> a serious one.
> 
> Rick, when did your dad pass away? I have a vague
> memory of him when I used to come over to your house
> to fill out TM posters.

About 10 years after that. Early 80's. He was living in Denver at the time
an I was at MIU on Purusha.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


Hehe. I'm doing carrot juice, so maybe I'm already doing the essence of the practice :-).They're hyping it as  “This nighttime technique will convert nighttime into the path of enlightenment.”Sure sounds like Gaudapada to me. They didn't say how much.On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:I think it has something to do with eating carrots.  Sal 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread authfriend
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sri. Brigante, if Britain is ScorpionLand, 
> > then, is America a Centipede-Land.??
> > Take India for example, One out of 
> > every 10 child in india is Sexualy abused.
> > http://www.childrensrightsindia.org/Help_girl%20child.htm
> >
> >   OriginalMessage-
> >   From: "bbrigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:12:43 - 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] "New disease" in Scorpionland 
> > 
> > "The media is full of images and stories of Britain's 
> increasing culture of heavy boozing - particularly among young 
women. 
> >   
> >   Tony Blair has labelled it as "a new British disease"And if 
> you're left thinking that my five-night-a-week binge was extreme, 
> remember, 
> > it's only what 8.2 million people do in Britain every week."
> >   
> >   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4550362.stm 
> 
> A few girls throwing up in the streets at 2.00am
> is not good, bbrigante. But they don't carry 
> hand guns. This is the 25th anniversary of John 
> Lennon's death. We have nutters. They don't carry 
> guns. Nobody does. (A tiny percentage of criminals
> do, I suppose).

Widespread alcoholism is probably more destructive
of the social fabric than a small percentage of
murderous nutters.

Caveat for the TNBs: I'm commenting only on the
relative harm to a society of the two problems,
not defending MMY's rejection of Great Britain.
The U.S. has a lot of other problems as well that
Great Britain does not have.


> You have pushed out the boundaries of foolishness,
> bbrigante. You haven't a clue.
> Uns.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO legal savvy

2005-12-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 29, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> 

> > I agree that he's riding the TMO's coat-tails, but I still think 
what
> > he's done, although stretched to the limit, falls under 
advertising
> > that mentions a competitor and makes a comparison. As far as I 
know,
> > that is perfectly legal.
> 
> But not just a little sleazy--esp. if these people are really  
> teaching TM as learned from the movement. While I do believe the  
> tradition of TM-style meditation is widespread without ever being  
> called "TM", to take something actually formulated by M and his  
> teachers and present as your own just by changing the name is rather 
> dishonest.

When it comes to free speech issues (and that's what I regard this as
), I'm always in favor of the very least amount of restriction, even 
in cases where the speech is extremely distasteful and inflammatory, 
like Neal Horsley's Nuremberg Files, which I thought should be 
allowed. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi
> prescribed it
>> for that reason too, in certain contexts.
>> 
> 
> That might be, but I doubt he had FFL in mind as one of those
> contexts!

Does FFL have to be "officially approved" in order to be a legitimate place
to discuss experiences?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
I think it has something to do with eating carrots.

Sal


On Dec 29, 2005, at 7:47 AM, Vaj wrote:

I just got the advert on the new night technique now being taught.

 Anyone know what this one is?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO legal savvy

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj   The other day I clicked on an ad for meditation instruction that came up with a Google search, and the site is being harassed by the TMO's lawyer. Is it legal savvy to claim trademark infringement where there is none?  The guy is really riding on the TM coat-tails. He's using TM to promote his technique by saying it's "just as good" and then including various TM studies. I completely understand why the TMO is going after him and agree with them from a legal perspective. He's the guy who doesn't have a leg to stand on legally.   I agree that he's riding the TMO's coat-tails, but I still think what he's done, although stretched to the limit, falls under advertising that mentions a competitor and makes a comparison. As far as I know, that is perfectly legal. But not just a little sleazy--esp. if these people are really teaching TM as learned from the movement. While I do believe the tradition of TM-style meditation is widespread without ever being called "TM", to take something actually formulated by M and his teachers and present as your own just by changing the name is rather dishonest.However I can see some benefit in taking TM-style meditation beyond it's commercialized and marketed form and returning to the purity of what it originally was (and still is). In order to do that many poseurs like Mahesh might be exposed, and that's bound to be uncomfortable to some.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sri. Brigante, if Britain is ScorpionLand, 
> > then, is America a Centipede-Land.??
> > Take India for example, One out of 
> > every 10 child in india is Sexualy abused.
> > http://www.childrensrightsindia.org/Help_girl%20child.htm
> >
> >   OriginalMessage-
> >   From: "bbrigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:12:43 - 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] "New disease" in Scorpionland 
> > 
> > "The media is full of images and stories of Britain's 
> increasing culture of heavy boozing - particularly among young women. 
> >   
> >   Tony Blair has labelled it as "a new British disease"And if 
> you're left thinking that my five-night-a-week binge was extreme, 
> remember, 
> > it's only what 8.2 million people do in Britain every week."
> >   
> >   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4550362.stm 
> 
> A few girls throwing up in the streets at 2.00am
> is not good, bbrigante. But they don't carry 
> hand guns. This is the 25th anniversary of John 
> Lennon's death. We have nutters. They don't carry 
> guns. Nobody does. (A tiny percentage of criminals
> do, I suppose).
> You have pushed out the boundaries of foolishness,
> bbrigante. You haven't a clue.
> Uns.

Britain got on MMY's shitlist when blair got reelected, which upset
MMY because blair supported the iraq war.  Of course, bush and the US
were the prime movers of that war (with blair-britain along for the
allied ride), which means the US should really be at the top of the
shitlist, which it isn't because the US is still supplying MMY with
most of his million dollar course participants and Britain isn't.

It's so embarrassingly stupid that people are actually thinking
britain has suddenly become some evil country, cherrypicking negative
stories from the mass media and ignoring similar stories from every
other country in the world.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO legal savvy

2005-12-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> 
> > > 
> > > The other day I clicked on an ad for meditation
> > > instruction that came
> > > up with a Google search, and the site is being
> > > harassed by the TMO's
> > > lawyer. Is it legal savvy to claim trademark
> > > infringement where there
> > > is none?
> 
> The guy is really riding on the TM coat-tails. He's
> using TM to promote his technique by saying it's "just
> as good" and then including various TM studies. I
> completely understand why the TMO is going after him
> and agree with them from a legal perspective. He's the
> guy who doesn't have a leg to stand on legally. 

I agree that he's riding the TMO's coat-tails, but I still think what
he's done, although stretched to the limit, falls under advertising
that mentions a competitor and makes a comparison. As far as I know,
that is perfectly legal.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] TMO legal savvy

2005-12-29 Thread Peter

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

> > 
> > The other day I clicked on an ad for meditation
> > instruction that came
> > up with a Google search, and the site is being
> > harassed by the TMO's
> > lawyer. Is it legal savvy to claim trademark
> > infringement where there
> > is none?

The guy is really riding on the TM coat-tails. He's
using TM to promote his technique by saying it's "just
as good" and then including various TM studies. I
completely understand why the TMO is going after him
and agree with them from a legal perspective. He's the
guy who doesn't have a leg to stand on legally. 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How I learned TM

2005-12-29 Thread Peter


--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 12/28/05 6:08 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > 
> > Did he ever go 12-step? TM is wonderful, yadda,
> yadda, but MMY often
> > (always?) added that it was good to address
> specific illnesses with
> > medicine (and other treatments) rather than use TM
> as a cure-all (at
> > least inthe short-run).
> 
> He might have gone to one or two AA meetings but he
> never really
> acknowledged that he had a problem, although he had
> a serious one.

Rick, when did your dad pass away? I have a vague
memory of him when I used to come over to your house
to fill out TM posters.




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[FairfieldLife] Aishwarya & Madhurya

2005-12-29 Thread Peter
>From SSRS:
"Usually in places where there is aishwarya (lordship)
there is no madhurya (sweetness), and where there is
madhurya there is no aishwarya. Where life has
blossomed fully, there is both. Aishwarya means
ishvaratvaa-lordship of that which 'Is.'...Can love
and authority co-exist? Only in a fully blossomed
being is there both lordship and sweetness. There was
aishwarya in Sri Rama, but only glimpses of madhurya.
In Paraashram's life there is only lordship, but no
madhurya. Bhudda manifested more madhurya (the
sweetness), and less authority. But Krishna manifested
both and so did Jesus. There is lordship when they
say, 'I am the way!' And there was sweetness in their
expressions of prayer and love."





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[FairfieldLife] The new night technique?

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj
I just got the advert on the new night technique now being taught.

Anyone know what this one is?

Maybe they're going to finally teach Gaudapada?


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
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> The only value in hearing about others' experiencing
> is that it is entertaining and it can clarify certain
> concepts that pertain to higher states of
> consciousness. Having a quiver of these concepts at
> your ready is helpful so the mind won't go insane when
> it starts to experience realization. 

I'm not convinced that hearing the experiences of 
other people helps in any way to prepare you for
having similar experiences.  I'm more interested
in hearing experiences that are similar in some
way to experiences I have already *had*.  In those
cases, sometimes the other person's way of expres-
sing things or phrasing things can give me more
insight into my own variant of those experiences.

Plus, there are certain types of experiences that
cannot, almost by definition, be remembered fully.
For example, experiences of alternate states of
consciousness that one had originally in dreaming.  
But when someone else speaks of those experiences, 
sometimes hearing their attempt at remembrance can 
act as kind of a trigger to help one remember the 
essence of one's own experience, even though the 
details of that experience can never be fully 
remembered in the waking state or expressed in 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread Peter


--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick
> Gillam" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- sparaig wrote:
> > >
> > > Being without expectations becomes less and less
> easy the more 
> you 
> > > hear your own and other's experiences,
> especially in a casual 
> context.
> > 
> > If I'd reading you right, Lawson, you're saying
> it's better 
> > to be innocent, without expectations fostered by
> hearing 
> > other people's experiences. If that's the case,
> why do you 
> > hang out in a forum like this, where people
> describe 
> > their experiences in and out of meditation? So you
> > quickly close such posts before reading them, or
> what?
> >
> 
> I often skim over the experiences part. Its like
> reading my mantra: 
> my eyes are trained to not dwell on it in general
> because I become 
> uncomfortable for one reason or another. Likewise
> with experiences, 
> although MY experiences during/after TM have swung
> so widely and 
> wildly over the years that I don't put much stock in
> any experience, 
> my own or anyone else's.

The only value in hearing about others' experiencing
is that it is entertaining and it can clarify certain
concepts that pertain to higher states of
consciousness. Having a quiver of these concepts at
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Re: [FairfieldLife] request for info- transcripts/vodeo- MMY referring to zero

2005-12-29 Thread Vaj


On Dec 29, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Ron F wrote:Does anyone have transcripts or video reference of Maharishi referring to Zero ?  Thanks I know in Maharishi Vedic Science there is a discussion on the four aspects of non-existence (anyonyabhava, etc.). I believe his is also discussed in MIU/MUM math courses. There was an article on it in the Journal of Vedic Science or whatever it was called. They are him just talking about some observations which exist in Nyaya and Advaita Vedanta. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
> > "The media is full of images and stories of Britain's 
> > increasing culture of heavy boozing - particularly among 
> > young women. 
> >   
> > Tony Blair has labelled it as "a new British disease"And if
> > you're left thinking that my five-night-a-week binge was 
> > extreme, remember, 
> > it's only what 8.2 million people do in Britain every week."
> >   
> >   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4550362.stm 
> 
> A few girls throwing up in the streets at 2.00am
> is not good, bbrigante. But they don't carry 
> hand guns. This is the 25th anniversary of John 
> Lennon's death. We have nutters. They don't carry 
> guns. Nobody does. (A tiny percentage of criminals
> do, I suppose).
> You have pushed out the boundaries of foolishness,

I would say instead that Bob was committed to
the desperate path of trying to find something,
*anything* in the world to justify his continuing
belief in Maharishi.  If he were to admit that
Maharishi has gone 'round the bend and is acting
like a lunatic, it might indicate that he (Bob)
has wasted his time, energy and money for decades
by believing in him.  Can't have that.  Better to
scour the Internet for something, *anything* to
justify his by-now irrational belief in Maharishi
and allow it to go on one more day...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: "New disease" in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Sri. Brigante, if Britain is ScorpionLand, 
> then, is America a Centipede-Land.??
> Take India for example, One out of 
> every 10 child in india is Sexualy abused.
> http://www.childrensrightsindia.org/Help_girl%20child.htm
>
>   OriginalMessage-
>   From: "bbrigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:12:43 - 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] "New disease" in Scorpionland 
> 
> "The media is full of images and stories of Britain's 
increasing culture of heavy boozing - particularly among young women. 
>   
>   Tony Blair has labelled it as "a new British disease"And if 
you're left thinking that my five-night-a-week binge was extreme, 
remember, 
> it's only what 8.2 million people do in Britain every week."
>   
>   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4550362.stm 

A few girls throwing up in the streets at 2.00am
is not good, bbrigante. But they don't carry 
hand guns. This is the 25th anniversary of John 
Lennon's death. We have nutters. They don't carry 
guns. Nobody does. (A tiny percentage of criminals
do, I suppose).
You have pushed out the boundaries of foolishness,
bbrigante. You haven't a clue.
Uns.






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[FairfieldLife] request for info- transcripts/vodeo- MMY referring to zero

2005-12-29 Thread Ron F
Does anyone have transcripts or video reference of Maharishi referring to Zero ?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 12/28/05 8:55 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- sparaig wrote:
> >> 
> >> Being without expectations becomes less and less easy the more 
you
> >> hear your own and other's experiences, especially in a casual 
context.
> > 
> > If I'd reading you right, Lawson, you're saying it's better
> > to be innocent, without expectations fostered by hearing
> > other people's experiences. If that's the case, why do you
> > hang out in a forum like this, where people describe
> > their experiences in and out of meditation? So you
> > quickly close such posts before reading them, or what?
> 
> I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi 
prescribed it
> for that reason too, in certain contexts.
>

That might be, but I doubt he had FFL in mind as one of those 
contexts!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO legal savvy

2005-12-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> From the website:
> 
> "Scientific research has shown that the most
> beneficial meditation is Maharishi's Transcendental
> Meditation. The striking reduction of stress and
> anxiety caused by TM is 3 to 4 times greater than that
> achieved by most meditation or relaxation methods."
> 
> Does anyone recall the TMO making this claim before?
> 
> Even if these studies were done, I'm sure they were
> done many decades ago. Maybe the TMO ought to compare
> TM with the myriad meditation techniques that have
> become available in the last ten years. Might get some
> of them on a faster path.
> 

A meta-analysis of 500+ studies on the effects of anxiety due to 
various kinds of meditation was done some years ago. 

And how do you know that there is a "better path" than TM given that 
you're not aware of any more recent research?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- sparaig wrote:
> >
> > Being without expectations becomes less and less easy the more 
you 
> > hear your own and other's experiences, especially in a casual 
context.
> 
> If I'd reading you right, Lawson, you're saying it's better 
> to be innocent, without expectations fostered by hearing 
> other people's experiences. If that's the case, why do you 
> hang out in a forum like this, where people describe 
> their experiences in and out of meditation? So you
> quickly close such posts before reading them, or what?
>

I often skim over the experiences part. Its like reading my mantra: 
my eyes are trained to not dwell on it in general because I become 
uncomfortable for one reason or another. Likewise with experiences, 
although MY experiences during/after TM have swung so widely and 
wildly over the years that I don't put much stock in any experience, 
my own or anyone else's.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: [old?] Free Jyotisha software?!

2005-12-29 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > ttp://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/index.htm
> >
> 
> Hupsankeikkaa! I mean:
> 
>  http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/index.htm
>

Maharishi is in the database, or whatever.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- sparaig wrote:
> >
> > Being without expectations becomes less and less easy the more you 
> > hear your own and other's experiences, especially in a casual 
> > context.
> 
> If I'd reading you right, Lawson, you're saying it's better 
> to be innocent, without expectations fostered by hearing 
> other people's experiences. If that's the case, why do you 
> hang out in a forum like this, where people describe 
> their experiences in and out of meditation? So you
> quickly close such posts before reading them, or what?

It's a PC thang..."politically correct," that is.
Have you ever been to Colorado?  They're PC crazy
there.  The mindset is, "We've been told that X is
unhealthy for us.  Therefore we don't do X and we're
going to do our best to keep you from doing X, too.
The more you try to do X, the more we'll try to
stop you, because we know how to live better than
you do."  :-)

Just kidding, but not really.  What Lawson is 
describing here is nothing more than WHAT HE WAS
TOLD by TM teachers who were only repeating WHAT
THEY WERE TOLD.  Lawson bought into it, and now 
feels that there is actually something *wrong* 
with discussing one's experiences.  He's trying
to get others to buy into that mindset, so that
it doesn't look so weird on him.  :-)  







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