Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread Denise Evans
I like it.  It's way better than change what you want to become :) --- On Tue, 9/6/11, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote: From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011,

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Video: This is why we fight

2011-09-07 Thread WLeed3
From: listmana...@joemiller.info To: wle...@aol.com Sent: 9/6/2011 4:25:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Video: This is why we fight Joe Miller: Restoring Liberty Palin Assails Hoffa 'Thuggery' for SOB Swipe at Tea Party By Newsmax

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread Denise Evans
I keep saying let's wait and see.  They won't pass anything without as many sucker punches as they can get in first if past behavior is any predictor of future behavior (blah, blah, blah). I think the issue that has really annoyed me and is tipping me over the edge are the flagrant dismissals

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread Denise Evans
That was a great clipthe good ol boys wheelin and dealin. Does anyone think Hillary would have enough activist left in her to take on the important issues and get the nomination?  Is she too rank and file?  Hillary vs Palin; Hillary vs Bachmannh.  She's got an in on the state of our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moving to LA..

2011-09-07 Thread Ravi Yogi
Curtis, I'm going to just respond to your last paragraph, since I am not really interested in debating issues rather than challenging or provoking, neither have I a solution to any problem. I'll describe my predicament below - you are smart and intelligent and I'll let you draw your own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread Denise Evans
Thanks, I will read these. --- On Tue, 9/6/11, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: From: authfriend jst...@panix.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 9:19 PM  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moving to LA..

2011-09-07 Thread Ravi Yogi
Thanks Rory, enjoyed your beautiful response. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Beautifully put, Ravi. Until we internalize absolutely everything in our creation, take full responsibility for all of it, we are in a sense just attempting to whitewash the jail

[FairfieldLife] Hale Columbia

2011-09-07 Thread Buck
Collective consciousness once again saves us! Again a hurricane is turned from our shores. Our Nation's capitol spared. !Om Jai Columbia Namaha, -Buck http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/083815.shtml?gm_track#contents

[FairfieldLife] Blissy vs. Happy

2011-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
Still pondering my reaction to the videos of Adyashanti I've watched recently, I have a question for those who have seen him in person. Is he always this serious, and (dare I say it) seemingly joyless? While I think that much of the content of what he said was interesting, I found *him* almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moving to LA..

2011-09-07 Thread seventhray1
I gotta say, that was the best post I've read here in a while. Thanks for a nice break in the action Ravi! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: I'm going to just respond to your last paragraph, since I am not really interested in debating issues rather than

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alternate titles for this post include: Jealousy: A Whine In 1,430 Words Why Is This Guy Famous And I'm Not? No One Is Paying Any Attention

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Alternate titles for this post include: Jealousy: A Whine In 1,430 Words

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moving to LA..

2011-09-07 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
This was a splendid post Ravi (in response to Curtis). It reminds me of something I read some days ago about the 1970s est training concocted by Werner Erhard. It was the est mission statement which was 'The purpose of est is to transform one's ability to experience living so that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said something like, become the change that you want in the world. Works for me. Sounds like We are the ones we've been waiting for, we are the change that we seek, a line from one of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Video: This is why we fight

2011-09-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@... wrote: snip Thuggish Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa told Obama over the weekend: President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to where we belong. Well, sorta. This is what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blissy vs. Happy

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Still pondering my reaction to the videos of Adyashanti I've watched recently, I have a question for those who have seen him in person. Is he always this serious, and (dare I say it) seemingly joyless? While I think

[FairfieldLife] Movie mini-review: X

2011-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
This is an Australian movie that was made a couple of years ago but only released recently. It's not great but it may have value for you if you enjoy looking at naked or near-naked women. It might even have more value for you if you watched Spartacus and enjoyed the Ilythia character played by

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread WilliamG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: http://onpoint.wbur.org/2008/02/07/from-maharishi-to-yoga-nation Thanks for posting that Rick, enjoyed it...

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: snip And I apologize to you, too, Jo Calderone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QMchMgokCI

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moving to LA..

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: This was a splendid post Ravi (in response to Curtis). It reminds me of something I read some days ago about the 1970s est training concocted by Werner Erhard. It was the est mission statement which

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: snip And I apologize to you, too, Jo Calderone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QMchMgokCI RESPONSE: Thanks, Judy. Jo Calderone was more real than anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blissy vs. Happy

2011-09-07 Thread martyboi
Here's what I observed. I saw him in a local burrito place with his wife. He is a very noticeably healthy in person...that is he appears to have a lot personal vitality the way an athlete might. I watched him go up to the soda fountain to get a drink. He arrived at the fountain at the same

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Marcio: and the advanced techniques First you get yourself initiated by a guru and you get the bija mantra. After that you can meditate on the bija, at least twice a day, for about twenty minutes. Then a little later, you can get some more advanced techniques. It's like a garden. You

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blissy vs. Happy

2011-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: Here's what I observed. I saw him in a local burrito place with his wife. He is a very noticeably healthy in person...that is he appears to have a lot personal vitality the way an athlete might. I watched him go up to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moving to LA..

2011-09-07 Thread emptybill
Very funny claims you've made. Glad you've reclaimed your sense of humor. It is one of the most tragic and unspeakable things to speak to someone who is under the mystical tyranny of Werner Erhard's system. The transformation does in fact occur. But that transformation confuses and deceives the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread authfriend
Thanks, missed it first time around. I'll have a look at these links as well. It's hard to decide which is the worst piece of legislation these cockroaches have gotten passed, they're all so awful; but this is the one that makes me see blazing red. From your earlier link: In Arizona, an

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
H, I didn't read it that way. Instead of feeling as a chosen one to change the world, the expression says to me that if I want to change the world, it is synonymous with changing myself, so that rather than being in opposition to anything in the world, I change myself to come to terms with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moving to LA..

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
As usual, after a fashion, we arrive at a sincere place. Thanks for your response. I keep thinking that we might be able to arrive here quicker without the provocation of calling me a Buddhist or pain-projecting liberal or that I have made a random list of people my idols. Perhaps not.

[FairfieldLife] Joan Tollifson: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 09/07/2011

2011-09-07 Thread Rick Archer
blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif published 09/07/2011 086. Joan Tollifson http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=46388cb659e=16e07f16fe Sep 06, 2011 06:45 pm |

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread WilliamG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Thanks, missed it first time around. I'll have a look at these links as well. It's hard to decide which is the worst piece of legislation these cockroaches have gotten passed, they're all so awful; but this is the one that

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
I've been meaning to discuss her appearance. It seemed as if she is no stranger to the work of our own Andy Kaufman and his alter ego. It will be interesting to see how far she pushes her artistic drama of the absurd. It was a tricky line for Andy to walk. I suspect we are in for some

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Bhairitu: There is a PDF article on mantras available there. Great, but you can't learn tantra yoga from a PDF. In fact, a 'bija mantra' is a bija mantra only when given in an initiation by a guru. You failed to give a definition of bija mantra. Definition of mantra: A mantra is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blissy vs. Happy

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: Here's what I observed. I saw him in a local burrito place with his wife. He is a very noticeably healthy in person...that is he appears to have a lot personal vitality the way an athlete might. I watched him go up

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
raunchydog: He continued idiotic wars... Like joining in a civil war in Libya? Unlike the Iraq invasion where Congress almost unanimously supported President Bush' initiative, this military action was begun by Obama entirely on his own initiative. Remember that, because I'd be surprised if

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
Regardless of Adya's personality, you have made this argument before, that you wouldn't go for enlightenment if it was based on the personalities of Maharishi, or Adya, or some of the posters here. You've also said that you have not awakened to enlightenment, and that the only teacher that you

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said something like, become the change that you want in the world. Works for me. authfriend: Sounds like We are the ones we've been waiting for, we are the change that we seek, a line from one of Obama's campaign speeches. Apparently only 22% of

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Regardless of Adya's personality, you have made this argument before, that you wouldn't go for enlightenment if it was based on the personalities of Maharishi, or Adya, or some of the posters here. ... It leads me to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blissy vs. Happy

2011-09-07 Thread martyboi
I felt a real integrity and naturalness at that moment. His smile made me happy! So I stole it form myself.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/07/2011 08:33 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote: Bhairitu: There is a PDF article on mantras available there. Great, but you can't learn tantra yoga from a PDF. In fact, a 'bija mantra' is a bija mantra only when given in an initiation by a guru. You failed to give a definition of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Video: This is why we fight

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa... authfriend: Well, sorta... Take the S.O.B.s out on a 'date' - I don't think so. People don't vote someone out in the middle of a war with an army! Hoffa should resign! So, most of the mainstreet media missed Hoffa's comments, but the L.A. Times is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blissy vs. Happy

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
turquoiseb: Call me spoiled by Rama -- at least in the early days of his teaching -- but I'm just not attracted to serious... If you enjoyed the funny with the Zen Master Rama, you must have been absolutly in love with the laughing and giggling Maharishi Mahesh Yogi! Obviously, you

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I've been meaning to discuss her appearance. It seemed as if she is no stranger to the work of our own Andy Kaufman and his alter ego. It will be interesting to see how far she pushes her artistic drama

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
There is a PDF article on mantras available there... Great, but you can't learn tantra yoga from a PDF. Bhairitu: Don't be so dense. I've said all along one can't learn tantra from books and that it should be learned from a master of the path. So, why did you send Marcio

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
Ha Ha! Yeah, guess so. So why bother assessing teachers and others in terms of sdomething you have no interest in? Sort of like owning a bicycle and constantly finding fault with auto mechanics. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kevin Smith's Red State

2011-09-07 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/03/2011 10:00 AM, Bhairitu wrote: At least from the trailer it looks like Kevin Smith has knocked another one out of the ball park. It's got a great cast. And it's available now before theatrical release VOD on YouTube, Vudu and I suspect Comcast too.

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
She should just pay you for writing this Robin! She must be something to deserve a fan like you. Really excellent analysis and I had a blast reading it. I am not as sure of Andy's posture of mocking. He seemed so personally vulnerable to me, fragile almost. There was something sweet about

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: I keep saying let's wait and see.  They won't pass anything without as many sucker punches as they can get in first if past behavior is any predictor of future behavior (blah, blah, blah). IMO, the Republicans would

[FairfieldLife] Movie Review: The Tree Of Life

2011-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
Because it's all New Age and thoughtful and all, I suspect most here will see Terence Malick's The Tree Of Life no matter what I say or anyone else says about it. That's good, because it's gonna polarize both critics and audiences. At Cannes, the film was alternately applauded and booed during its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/07/2011 09:17 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote: There is a PDF article on mantras available there... Great, but you can't learn tantra yoga from a PDF. Bhairitu: Don't be so dense. I've said all along one can't learn tantra from books and that it should be learned from a master

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
Just weighing in on the interview, I just watched most of it. Funny how the metaphor for Rick looking so clear in the video and him being fuzzy kind of expressed how I felt a lot of the time. I am left with the impression that these guys require you to meet them a bit more than half way on

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
WilliamG: And there goes the American culture as well... Let foul-mouthed Teamster President Jimmy Hoffa and Vice President Joe Biden know that you won't be intimidated. Purchase your own SOB T-Shirt: http://tinyurl.com/3mz35qu http://tinyurl.com/3mz35qu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread Denise Evans
Yep, while not a Maharishi person, I do think it gets back to that concept of becoming the change you want in the world...or at least, trying a little harder to exemplify it.  At least that is what I tell myself. --- On Wed, 9/7/11, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John jr_...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread Denise Evans
(And there goes the American culture as well)  (btw, how do I get snip to show up...do I type it in?) H...which culture would that be?  Where are your ancestors from?  Are you Native American?   Descended from British invaders? From 0ther immigrants escaping religious persecution or

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: RESPONSE: Yes, she (LG) needs to break free of the rut she is in. Many of her most discerning Little Monsters are telling her this. I felt the truth of your judgment of that last CD. You realize, I am more in

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: snip In American politics, all a candidate has to do is have 51 percent of the voters to elect him. 270 electoral votes, actually. Depending on which candidate won in each state, one candidate could have 51 percent of the popular vote

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: snip Excellent parallel with Andy Kaufman; however, AK was more stingingly satiric, more in-your-face absurd, more I'm- going-to-break-you-down. Andy stretched the metaphysical boundaries more extremely and provocatively

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Just weighing in on the interview, I just watched most of it. Funny how the metaphor for Rick looking so clear in the video and him being fuzzy kind of expressed how I felt a lot of the time. I am left

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread John
That's correct. I just wanted to make a convenient statement for dramatic effect. Talking about the intricacies of the electoral college would have been too verbose, or boring IOW. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Maharishi to Yoga Nation | On Point with Tom Ashbrook

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: snip Excellent parallel with Andy Kaufman; however, AK was more stingingly satiric, more in-your-face absurd, more I'm- going-to-break-you-down. Andy

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Just weighing in on the interview, I just watched most of it. Funny how the metaphor for Rick looking so clear in the video and him being fuzzy kind of expressed how I felt a lot of the time. Bingo. I am

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
So I am trying on another version of nondualism which involves a bit of reductionism that labels the mind body split as an illusion, an artifact of how our brain operates... maskedzebra: Am I all alone in exclaiming how beautifully wise and sober and acute this analysis is?

[FairfieldLife] Anyone know why MMY not advise the mantra om

2011-09-07 Thread Marcio
OM OM Anyone know why MMY not advise the mantra om in their meditation practice? or as part of advanced techniques?

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
So, why did you send Marcio to a David Frawley PDF? Bhairitu: For some information on beej mantras... Who said David Frawley was a 'master' empowered to give out any bija mantra information on the internet? You don't seriously believe that the bija mantras are ten thousand years

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: So I am trying on another version of nondualism which involves a bit of reductionism that labels the mind body split as an illusion, an artifact of how our brain operates... maskedzebra:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/07/2011 12:27 PM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote: So, why did you send Marcio to a David Frawley PDF? Bhairitu: For some information on beej mantras... Who said David Frawley was a 'master' empowered to give out any bija mantra information on the internet? You don't seriously

[FairfieldLife] Self narrative and belief

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
If there is no self-narrative, there can be no belief. Even identified realistically as formlessness, we continue to operate in the world, voice opinions, act and react, think and feel, recount experiences, but there are no beliefs, simply being in the moment. When the self-narrative unravels

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone know why MMY not advise the mantra om

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Marcio: Anyone know why MMY not advise the mantra om in their meditation practice? Yes. The mono-syllable 'OM', by definition, isn't a bija mantra at all, except by courtesy. OM is not esoteric in any way - it's just used as fertilizer, just like 'phat' or any other auspicious utterance.

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Briefly stated, the autochtonous hypothesis proposes that the Aryan speaking people originated in India where they composed the Vedas and then spread out from Kurukshetra over a long period of time beginning in 8000 BCE, to found all the European, Middle Eastern and Mediteranean

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
And Bingo was his name-oh! Hey Barry, I appreciate you wanting to talk cars, since all the cool guys do, but stick with bicycles for awhile. Getting involved with the internal combustion engine right off the bat is clearly taxing you. You are better off first understanding stuff like frames,

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for clarifying. I already figured that despite your very kind support for my post. I am giving Michael Shermer a chance to make his point in The Believing Brain. He is an unabashed reductionist and I am still making up my mind. But I know that I need to input his arguments and the

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
whynotnow7: And Bingo was his name-oh! Hey Barry, I appreciate you wanting to talk cars, since all the cool guys do, but stick with bicycles for awhile. Bingo! In fact, the Cathars are derived from Bogumils; Bogomils are derived from Paulicans; Paulicans from Manicheans; Manicheans

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone know why MMY not advise the mantra om

2011-09-07 Thread Marcio
look at http://www.aypsite.org/188.html OM is paired with SHREE for a reason, and it is second instead of first for a reason. It is paired to maintain polarity between the crown (SHREE) and the rest of the nervous system resonating with OM. This is another dimension of the shiva-shakti

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread martyboi
That's part of what struck me about martyboi's story of the restaurant encounter. We'll never know what was going through his head, of course, but if *he* was thinking that his smile was a gift, it might have been an unwanted one. It appeared to me to be an ordinary, natural moment

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
I Know You Don't Know You are Broke, That is Why The Universe Sent ME To Fix You. Ha-Ha! Funny, Curtis! Though Adyashanti doesn't strike me that way at all. He is there for folks who have legitimate questions, and answers them the best he can. The guy seems genuine enough for what he does. He

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
I think of myself as a Mysterian As in Question Mark and the Mysterians? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgfnCTp3p7U --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@ wrote: So I am

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
I have no reason to challenge his sincerity. Making a buck doesn't always mean a person is a shyster. But one definition of a guru that does hold up is the the money flow is always one way. I think of him as an entertainer and he is giving people something they value, so win win. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: Briefly stated, the autochtonous hypothesis proposes that the Aryan speaking people originated in India where they composed the Vedas and then spread out from Kurukshetra over a long period of

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
Yeah, agreed about this, and the money flow. I guess the question becomes does he entertain enough to earn the bucks he does? Maybe a question of unlocking his creative potential. Is he always entertaining his audience with cover tunes, or coming out with some greatest hits of his own, and

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
People are obviously voting yes to the guy with their time and dollars. And I am not writing off the possibility that he has a lot of human empathy that allows him to help them feel better or gain a better perspective. It is just for me on this exposure, it seems that his main skill is the

[FairfieldLife] Ovi downloads vs. Apple downloads?

2011-09-07 Thread cardemaister
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/09/07/nokia-ovi-store-apps-downloaded-160-more-than-ios-apps/ Ovi (Finnish) = door! :D

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread noah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Just weighing in on the interview, I just watched most of it. Funny how the metaphor for Rick looking so clear in the video and him being fuzzy kind of expressed how I felt a lot of the time. I am left

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone know why MMY not advise the mantra om

2011-09-07 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Marcio: you know any advanced technique MMY..that uses the OM after shree... No. No 'OM' in TM practice; no 'OM' in Sri Vidya tradition; no 'OM'; OM not good for being married house-holder; no. No OM. Not good. Not bija. OM only for dilettantes or readers of online PDFs. OM is made-up

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-07 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/07/2011 01:02 PM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote: Briefly stated, the autochtonous hypothesis proposes that the Aryan speaking people originated in India where they composed the Vedas and then spread out from Kurukshetra over a long period of time beginning in 8000 BCE, to found all the

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
I agree, and I think these spiritual teachers gain a momentum that sustains them. I don't know about the linguistic form thing. Perhaps I will listen to his interview again with that in mind. All I took away from Rick's interview was that Adya was describing states of mind, and the problems

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self narrative and belief

2011-09-07 Thread martyboi
I tell myself this all the time : -) Do you think the self-narrative is gone or just ignored? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: If there is no self-narrative, there can be no belief. Even identified realistically as formlessness, we continue to operate in

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
My response to Robin before the oops was my attempt at the form. If you want a more in depth look check out anything Jone Ginder or Richard Bandler wrote about their modeling work on Milton Erickson. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noah wayback71@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self narrative and belief

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: I tell myself this all the time : -) Ha Ha! Good one! Do you think the self-narrative is gone or just ignored? If it exists, it cannot be ignored. However our self-narratives are very clever, and I suppose we could even

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
Should read John Ginder and one of their intro books is: Trance-Formations: Neuro-Linguistic Programming and the Structure of Hypnosis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: My response to Robin before the oops was my attempt at the form. If you

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
I am typing poorly on an ipad, sorry. Last time: John Grinder. Damn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Should read John Ginder and one of their intro books is: Trance-Formations: Neuro-Linguistic Programming and the Structure of Hypnosis

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
You forgot to add, sent from my i-Pad at the bottom of your post...I think I'll add a signature line on all my emails that says, Not sent from my i-Phone since I don't own one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I am typing poorly on an ipad,

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WilliamG wgm4u@... wrote: Rush Limbaugh calls illegal immigrants, 'undocumented democrats', so how does it feel to be in illustrious company Judy? And why do illegal immigrants vote for democrats?, because the democrats pander better and give away the

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread noah
Will check out Grinder etc. i agree with you in many ways and do expect that neuroscience is going to figure out just what is going on and where in the brain it goes on when people are enlightened or awakened. That does not necessarily mean that the change in functioning was caused by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread authfriend
Is this what you saw? Be the change you wish to see in the world. It's usually attributed to Gandhi, but it's a misquote. Here's what he actually said: If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world

[FairfieldLife] Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-07 Thread William
For what it is worth, the most trusted yoga scholar I know is Dr. Georg Feurstein and according to him bija mantras are first found in the brahmanas, where they are associated with specific deities (Georg Feurstein, Tantra: Path of Ecstasy, 16.)

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
if they could go back and forth between Enlightenment and normal everyday unawakened being, what would they choose and for how long? And how would their family and peers rate them in both states, if they did not know which was which? Great questions! The first one is so obvious, as I remember

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-09-07 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Sep 03 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Sep 10 00:00:00 2011 436 messages as of (UTC) Thu Sep 08 00:14:46 2011 31 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 28 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com 28 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 27

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
Yep, that was the one, and it *was* attributed to Gandhi, written in that calligraphy style of brown characters on parchment white that is meant to denote individual artistic effort vs. cold, mass-produced thought - lol. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-07 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/07/2011 05:09 PM, William wrote: For what it is worth, the most trusted yoga scholar I know is Dr. Georg Feurstein and according to him bija mantras are first found in the brahmanas, where they are associated with specific deities (Georg Feurstein, Tantra: Path of Ecstasy, 16.) What

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Democrats can do about Obama

2011-09-07 Thread whynotnow7
(btw, how do I get snip to show up...do I type it in?) Yep. Like this: snip, or snippus gigantis, or snippity-snip-snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: (And there goes the American culture as well)  (btw, how do I get snip to show up...do I type it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-07 Thread William Parkinson
Not too muchm sadly. I am still learning everything I can about MMY and TM. The only other interesting thing I found out that most do not know is that according to Donovan, the singer who was there with the Beatles in India (as I know you know already), MMY divided up longer mantras to reduce

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