Re: [FairfieldLife] dear everyone on FFL
Dear Share, whatever are you talking about? Seriously, it's probably my memory, but I have no idea what you are saying - I swear we don't speak the same language! I am sniping nastily at you? What? Can you do me a favor and send me the posts where I am doing that? Do you think it is condescending of you to assume that my position towards you has something to do with what went down personally between you and Robin? My gripe with you in 2012 had to do with the way you treated me and the others you assigned to the cult Share. Remember? You assigned me to a cult and called me all kinds of names and made assumptions about my intentions that were totally incorrect? And, then, after launching the attacks, one after another, you pretended that you weren't, and that we were all abusing you, and then you ran away and stuck your tongue out at us (and me in particular, as I was trying desperately to resolve the situation with you like a good FFL-adult), from behind Steve's back? Remember? Am I missing something? Here you go again, Share. Your MO from the beginning has been to launch missiles and run. And then, get angry and launch more missiles and run again...it's an endless karmic cycle, from what I can see and I have detached fully from letting your behavior bother me in any way. You must have had a bad day today. People who are in denial that they have negative feelings project them sideways and then cover them up with sticky sweetness. Pretty simple and you are a classic example of this. Sorry, but this is an easy one. I hold no animosity towards you at all for your treatment of me. None. Really - believe me. I let it all go Share. I am not being ironic here. In fact, I've been finding your posts refreshingly you, of late, and I told you just this. Did you think I was making fun of you in a mean and nasty way when I said that? Share, you have and continue to try to control people and aspects of this forum that you don't understand. If you don't understand something, just ask. No need to translate whatever it is into something negative that you can then put down and reject. You dissed me fully for playing with your name and that's all you've done recently to others. Just a teensy-weensy bit hypocritical on just that one behavior, don't you think? You try to control responses to your posts by tagging the subject line back to who you want to correspond with - not happening on a public forum, sweet pea. You have some real fear-based control issues Share. Your sense of humor is very literal - you don't understand and therefore misinterpret much of the humor that crosses this forum that isn't literal in nature. Do you recognize that you do this? Is this an accurate assessment of you Share? Is this confrontational enough for you? Is it possible that you have misinterpreted both my intention and the words I've written in my posts? Is it possible that the obvious assumptions you have outlined below are inaccurate? Is it possible that you have incorrectly intuited anything here? I assure you that you have mischaracterized me completely and I am so sorry that you think I think so negatively of you. So not true Share. I forgave you - did I forget to tell you? I am no more confrontational with you than with anyone and in fact, I think accusing me of being confrontational is a judgment on your part - don't own up to it though. And remember Share...running out of money is a non-statement - maybe I just need to catch up on some paperwork and sell some more stock. We all have different comfort zones when it comes to money. If you think that I am stupid enough to allow you to take up time in my real world that I would be spending looking for work, think again, Share. Your statement below tying my purported financial situation to wasting time and energy on carrying a grudge towards you is simply irrational and untrue. I don't tell you how to waste your time - don't tell me how to waste mine. You are behaving in a judgmental way again. There, was that confrontational enough? Warm milk with honey to you m'dear. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] dear everyone on FFL During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at least support the enjoyment of others. As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided to not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too. As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
Tee Hee. Share...do you see how used your characterization of Bob as grumpy boots in a reply back to him as a joke and you see how he responded below? Is this what you mean as sniping nastily to you? It was *your phrase* Share, you said it first. I just thought it was funny. It's that creepy sense of humor of mine, Share, right? Wrong again, BP's sense of humor is way creepier than mine. Ask anyone. From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey now, I think Barry is making a change . ***BP: Famous bridges for sale: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnGsBvFQSI PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTnEyRLMvqk PPS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQGLjBYLUU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4 From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:42:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote: Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later. To be honest, Ravi, I admit to having read some of your posts from this vacation, and I have wanted before to remark that I feel it's done you a world of good. Whether it is a result of being with your family, or having touched base with India again, or just the passage of time, your posts during this pilgrimage have been the most grounded of the entire time I've been exposed to you on the Internet. May this trend continue. Good on you, guy. Â
[FairfieldLife] Mari religion!
Mari people From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Mari Total population 600,000 Regions with significant populations Russia 542,000 Ukraine4,130 [1] Languages Mari, Russian Religion Russian Orthodox Christianity, Mari Traditional Religion The Mari (Russian: #1084;#1072;#1088;#1080;#1081;#1094;#1099;), are a Finno-Ugric ethnic group, who have traditionally lived along the Volga and Kama rivers in Russia. Almost half of Maris today live in the Mari El republic, with significant populations in the Bashkortostan and Tatarstan republics. In the past, the Mari have also been known as the Cheremis in Russian and the Çirme#351; in Tatar. Religion Maris have traditionally practiced a pagan faith that closely connected the individual with nature. According to their beliefs, nature exerts a magical influence over people. They relate to it as a sacred, powerful, and living being outside of which man can not exist. Nature serves as a source of absolute good who always helps man as long as he does not harm or oppose it.[3] The Mari Traditional Religion also possesses a pantheon of gods who reside in the heavens, the most important of whom is known as the Great White God (#1054;#1096; #1050;#1091;#1075;#1091; #1070;#1084;#1086;, Osh Kugu Yumo). Other lesser gods include the god of fire (#1058;#1091;#1083; #1070;#1084;#1086;, Tul Yumo)[agni?? -- card; in Finnish: tuli-yumala] and the god of wind (#1052;#1072;#1088;#1076;#1077;#1078; #1070;#1084;#1086;, Mardezh Yumo)[marut??]. The Mari also believe in a number of half-men, half-gods (#1082;#1077;#1088;#1077;#1084;#1077;#1090;, keremet) who live on earth. The most revered of these gods is Chumbulat (#1063;#1091;#1084;#1073;#1091;#1083;#1072;#1090;), Kubrat [kubera??] or Chumbylat (#1063;#1091;#1084;#1073;#1099;#1083;#1072;#1090;), a renowned leader and warrior.[4] Christianity was adopted by the Mari in the 16th century after their territory was incorporated into the Russian Empire during the reign of Ivan IV the Terrible. Adoption of Christianity was not universal, however, and many Mari today still practice Paganism in syncretic forms, or purer forms adhering to organized Neopagan Mari Traditional Religion organizations. Pagans constitute a significant minority of 25 to 40% of the Mari. Most Mari are members of the Russian Orthodox Church.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
Share, perhaps you can help me out a little. Can you rewrite this to correct both the grammar and the logic? From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) Tee Hee. Share...do you see how used your characterization of Bob as grumpy boots in a reply back to him as a joke and you see how he responded below? Is this what you mean as sniping nastily to you? It was *your phrase* Share, you said it first. I just thought it was funny. It's that creepy sense of humor of mine, Share, right? Wrong again, BP's sense of humor is way creepier than mine. Ask anyone. From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey now, I think Barry is making a change . ***BP: Famous bridges for sale: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnGsBvFQSI PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTnEyRLMvqk PPS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQGLjBYLUU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4 From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:42:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote: Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later. To be honest, Ravi, I admit to having read some of your posts from this vacation, and I have wanted before to remark that I feel it's done you a world of good. Whether it is a result of being with your family, or having touched base with India again, or just the passage of time, your posts during this pilgrimage have been the most grounded of the entire time I've been exposed to you on the Internet. May this trend continue. Good on you, guy. Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc.
Steve...pleasemisses nuance in a remarkable way is a bit more grounded an assessment, IMHO. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: snip Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology. All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime. That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and grounded. Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues. Last I checked, that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit from if it were made a greater priority. That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark. There is no desperation there. Just a desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their environment. (both near and far) negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). I think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some examples, especially of the grounded part. Share? You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite balanced. As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor. Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve. if you are referring to my comment about Matthew (whatever his last name is), what is it that you find at odds with my comment? Do you feel he should be censored? It seems to me that all I said, was that the man should be able to speak his peace. Is that offensive?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Oh my godthe poor man. He's crying out for help. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 wrote: Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream Gee, I don't know. I think anyone who speaks like that and does what he does when he's speaking is a dead giveaway. The guy is seriously a turn off in every possible way. In this case, if you have even a drop of intuition or reason, let alone instinct, this guy would get you running for the door. In fact, I'd bet my life on it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc.
Share, does this exchange qualify as nasty sniping, or is it just funny, or is it shaming you or is it playing on words, or what? If I had had the smarts to come up with these quips, would it then be nasty sniping? Is it me, Share, is it me? From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: This week I've been taking some workshops with Paul Wong artofneutrality. Very wonderful stuff (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Ah, more healing. Gosh, you seem to have an infinite capacity to attend these workshops, it seems to me one of them alone isn't enough. You just can't get good healers these days... Yeah, as feste said, I think we have to give this some more consideration, WB. Perhaps Share after fairly recently joining FFL, is simply trying to figure out the difference between Wright and Wong... See, this is why I could never be mad at you. I am happy to see you appreciate the gravity of this situation, the same as I do...At first I was *barely appalled* at the situation Share was facing, until I became sensitive to the fair field (of) life, bringing her such consternation...(first one to laugh out loud, loses).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: apropos of nothing
Great story. Great memories. I should post some new pictures of Sandy - she actually fit all of my criteria for the dog I didn't know I was looking for :) From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: apropos of nothing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Very cute.  I took the jack to a large park yesterday on Lake Washington yesterday with another person who has large dogs - german shepherd, huskies, a couple of rescues.  They aren't aggressive nor is the jack so we let them run together.  Nothing is more exhilarating than watching a dog go into a full run as part of a pack.  The weather had cleared and the sun was coming out over the field with the lake in the background - they had so much fun and it was a beautiful sight.  She doesn't play much with other dogs but she ran with them like she was a big dog.    Loved hearing about your little dog. It reminds me of all the many park trails I walked with my sweet Miniature Schnauzer, Dolly. I miss her. She was a fine little friend and great trail companion. She knew her way around town, barked like crazy whenever I drove past a park. If I didn't stop the car for a doggie run, she would stop barking, look wistfully back at the park and then disappointedly at me. Dogs have a wonderful way of conveying their feelings with their whole body, especially with ears and tails. Dolly didn't have much of a tail, it didn't wag, it twitched. Her ears were her most expressive feature. When her ears were straight up, alert and shaved after a grooming, if the sun hit them just right they became a lovely pink translucence. I got Dolly from a puppy mill in Nauvoo. Although she would have enjoyed the walk, I probably saved her from a life of helping Mormon missionaries proselytize door to door. Before driving from Fairfield to Nauvoo to pick out a puppy, I'd decided I wanted a miniature Schnauzer with uncropped ears. She was the only puppy in a litter of six that fit my criteria. Apparently, they didn't bother cropping her ears because she wasn't considered show dog quality and the breeders knocked $25 off her price. She was a little bigger and feisty than the others. She was the first one out of the puppy basket and onto the grass to pee. I fell in love and would have gotten her at any price. From: raunchydog To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] apropos of nothing  Baby hedgehog http://www.dailycuteness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/cute-hedgehog.png The Cutest Puppy in the World http://youtu.be/mURoYko9zSs
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know...
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samsara Baraka
Thanks for the kudos LG. :) He who should not be named... chuckle. :D When I posted my thanks for the link you posted, somehow I had ended up at a Baraka Part 1, which only went up to the dark turn in the film, and that is all I had seen. I loved the nature scenes and the indigenous people scenes. I especially loved the monkey in the hot spring at the beginning of the film. Anyway, I clicked your link again and saw that I had missed over half the film. :o Oh my, yes...a dark turn. My internal systems felt revolt once the robotic conditions started. And I don't think I'll ever get the baby chick images out of my head. It's hard to put to words all the different emotions the film evokes and the realities that it drives home. I guess that (hard to put into words) is why there are no words in the film. Speaking of robotic work, I worked in a factory 2 times in my life. Once I lasted 9 days; the other 3 months. Both jobs involved sanding machines. One was sanding arms for chairs; the other was deburring small parts (the same parts) for airplanes. The same thing over and over and over, forty hours a week with a 30 minute lunch break and two 15-minute breaks each day. With the deburring airplane parts I would tell myself that I had to get the burrs off the small parts for the plane to be safe; trying to give more purpose to the work. It was maddening. I know some people spend their entire lives doing stuff like that, and it almost amazes me. I developed a new respect for factory workers after enduring such. Thanks again! Happy 2013... :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: Hi Carol...yes indeed, I remember you, and have enjoying reading your toss ripple blog (great name BTW!). I hope the current situation with he who must not be named comes to some resolution soon. Am glad you enjoyed Baraka. Both movies take that dark turn about halfway through that makes me very uncomfortable (the chickens, the robotic human condition, more chickens, etc.) but then seems to find some resolution at the end. Maybe a statement about how life goes on in an evolutionary direction and once again emerges in spite of the negativity and human failings? A very ambitious, different, and meaningful undertaking by Fricke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Thanks for the link laughinggull. I had not seen Baraka. Thoroughly enjoyed it and have now shared it with some other folks. PS: I'm oneperson from over on blogspot. We interacted a bit previously in the blogosphere. Hope you are well. :) * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: A very similar film (i.e. images alone set to haunting music) by Ron Fricke is Baraka (1992) and is available in it entirety here: http://youtu.be/gEyguwQalCI Samsara (http://barakasamsara.com/#) toured the country for showing at select theaters last summer and I was fortunate to see it on the big screen at one of these showings. And I must agree Barry about some of the Whoa scenes. My two favorites were the lush green India landscape with all the temples at the beginning and the female Thai dancers with all the arms at the end. However, although I enjoyed it, viewing it once was enough for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: As a term, samsara has become associated with the idea that the relative existence that we live in and perceive each day is an illusion. *As* an illusion, say those who coined the term, it is not worth pursuing or paying that much attention to. I suggest humbly to people who believe this that they are fuckin' crazy. Samsara (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770802/ ) the 2011 film by Ron Fricke, should not be confused with Samsara (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0196069/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2 ), the 2001 film by Pan Nalin, also excellent, but in a different way. The new Samsara is basically nothing more (nor less) than a series of images of the relative existence that we live in and perceive each day, set to music. And those images are beautiful. Stunningly beautiful. Breathtakingly beautiful. As is relative existence itself, whatever its ups and downs. Life. Death. Rebirth. LIFE. I really *feel* for those who believe that the relative is somehow inferior to what they consider the Absolute, and thus is something to be avoided or shunned. They're really missing out. This film shows you how much they're missing out ON. There were just so many scenes in which my initial reaction was Whoa! Where the FUCK is that on planet Earth? And why haven't I been there yet? I exceeded my Whoa! quotient within the first fifteen minutes of watching Samsara. I simply don't understand the drive that some people feel to get off the wheel and end
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
I starting laughing when he started talking. :o I can see me in the audience sitting beside a couple good friends who would have the same response as I. We would have to excuse ourselves so as not to be rude. He appears young. I wonder where he will be years from now (in his beliefs, etc.) and what he will think when he looks back at this? I hope he can laugh too...or maybe he already has. Maybe he has learned to giggle like MY. I don't recall a lot from SCI, but I will always remember the flower and the giggle. ;) * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
sorry to hear this but good to know From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at least support the enjoyment of others. As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided to not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too. As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew. Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we were. You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them going. If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience to explain it to you. I don't. Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share. Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too. I hope so. But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every opportunity to snipe nastily at me. They continue to have a confrontational tone towards me, even on the most mundane of topics. Weird! Plus they ignore it when I do post a positive reply to them. You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with her running out of money situation would have better things to do with their time and energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me into the new year. Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and Robin! So IMO there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this grudge into the new year. And I won't be a part of it. I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing. But I will not reply to any posts that are nasty, condescending, confrontational, snide, etc. In other words, grudgy! Who does such exchanges benefit? NO ONE! OTOH thank you to everyone who's made FFL so enjoyable during the holidays and even more recently. You all have shown me that it's possible to have great discussions and good humor without being nasty. love and hugs Share
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Steve Xeno
Thanks again, Steve. Another big part of it for me is finding ways to help my family with their various ailments. My Mom and Dad both are now on so many Western meds that I'd be nervous recommending natural supplements. Though now that my Dad is out of the woods with the killer bacteria, I mentioned echinecea tea as a way to boost his immune system. But even in this instance, I'm a little nervous about how it might combine harmfully with his meds. So I look into any form of energy medicine that comes along. My youngest sister has a rare autoimmune disease. But she is open to and has pursued alternative health care along with allopathic treatments. And just this past year my younger sister had to have part of the bone in her arm removed to be replaced by cement and rods. She continues to be in a lot of pain. I'd hate to see her go on pain meds and she's unlikely to. But if I can find a natural supplement or energy work that can help her with this, that would be great and it's definitely worth my time and money to pursue. To Xeno: The thing is, so many spiritual seeking boomers are now aging. And they see or have seen the problems with allopathic medicine. For the sake of their aging bodies, they search for better ways to deal all this. And yes, most is psychosomatic. I think even allopathic health care practitioners recognize this. I've said before that I think a lot of souls incarnated at this time because it looked like a RELATIVELY easy time to grow and unfold full potential. I agree with you that there is no path, etc. But it's pointless to live that truth simply based on intellectual understanding. I think we're living in an amazing time when there's support to live this truth based on our own experience. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: snip Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology. All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime. That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and grounded. Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues. Last I checked, that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit from if it were made a greater priority. That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark. There is no desperation there. Just a desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their environment. (both near and far) negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). I think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some examples, especially of the grounded part. Share? You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite balanced. As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor. Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve. if you are referring to my comment about Matthew (whatever his last name is), what is it that you find at odds with my comment? Do you feel he should be censored? It seems to me that all I said, was that the man should be able to speak his peace. Is that offensive?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
[FairfieldLife] Ann...horses, Monty Roberts, Buck Brannaman
Dang it...Had typed a post and it went the way of the black hole. So now comes a much shorter post. Ha. Ann, I read in some other posts that you are a horse lover. I grew up with horses from as far back as I can remember until I was 12 years old when I got interested in guys. Should have stuck with horses. Some years back I read Monty Roberts autobiographical book The Man Who Listens to Horses. I saw a documentary of him demonstrating joining up. I later read that his family took issue (a big issue) with Roberts' claim of alleged abuse by his father. The family also stated that Roberts had lied about other claims. (I can't recall it all now.) Last year I saw Buck and learned for the first time about Buck Brannaman. He apparently was abused by his father; the community knew about it at the time. It made me wonder if Roberts had taken part of Brannaman's story and adapted it and capitalized on it. Are you familiar with/have knowledge about these two horseman? If so, what are you thoughts ... if you have time and want to share any? Thanks!
[FairfieldLife] Re: India needs early marriage system or dating system?
In fact, India had the teen-marriage system for thousands of years. This acted as a safety mechanism. But, after the British left in 1947, the age limit was jacked up to 18 for girls and 21 for boys. The problem was no other alternative system was put in place. This led to disasterous behaviour by indian teens. Since, indian politicians hate the dating-system, the only other alternative is to bring back teen-marriage, reduce the marriage age to 16 for girls and 18 for boys. Don't you think the Republicans in the US, who hate teen pregancies would support that idea? --- Share Long wrote: A tantric teacher David Deida once told a group that in ancient times wise cultures had a system whereby widowed or single postmenopausal women initiated the young men of the tribe into the ahem love making arts. Seems like a win win to me (-: From: Jason Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] India needs early marriage system or dating system? Home Opinion We want to have the best of two worlds By V P Thomson Piravom , 28th December 2012 11:47 PM Muvattupuzha, our taluk's capital town, witnessed a bizarre incident a few months ago. A 18-year-old girl was forcibly hugged and kissed by a young man in broad daylight on the public road. Being caught totally off guard, the girl screamed for help. Seeing that a beautiful young lady was crying for help the onlookers who normally turn a blind eye to road accident victims sprang to action and the miscreant was instantly apprehended. Some over-smart Samaritans smacked the boy to pulp to prove a point to the hapless girl. Needless to say, the prey and the predator were both taken to the nearby police station. The first question darted to the girl by the police inspector was, Why donât you dress decently? The plumb girl was wearing a pair of skinny jeans and a low cut top that liberally exposed her cleavage. Incidentally she was on her way to a job interview. Guilt ridden, the boy admitted he couldn't get a grip of himself and just went berserk on seeing her in that attire. The boy and girl were travelling in the same bus but he just freaked out at her sight and though bound elsewhere, he alighted at the same stop where the girl got out. And then, the unimaginable thing in the Indian circumstances happened. The boy was put behind bars and the girl was made to wait at the police station until her elder brother came to take her home. The inspector admonished her brother, Be advised, she needs to get dressed properly in future. After all, indecent exposure is a criminal offence, isn't it? Of late, it is lamented by one and all that, harassment of women has touched an all-time high.The recent New Delhi gang rape has triggered widespread outrage. The fact is that we are trying to blindly ape the West in everything as a show of keeping abreast with changed times. Sadly, we the Indians are under the wrong notion that we can't lag behind the West and need to catch up with them in every respect, be it in food or clothes because that is what is called progress.The West has got a dating system to have a first hand knowledge of the subtle nuances of man-woman relationship. Isn't it true that the Indian psyche still can't stand the sight of a girl with her male friend at odd hours? The Indian male still wants an untouched virgin as his wife. When the testosterone levels of the young people are about to break the barriers of self- control, sanity and civility just go by the board and the primal instincts avariciously take the centrestage. It is ridiculous to assume that we can permanently arrest the onslaught of hormone revolution by rules and regulations. Never judge a book by its cover. We need to delve deep down. We either go back to the old days of child marriages (Of course, with timely innovations and a tight leash on population explosion), or as Kushboo suggested, let us have a healthy taboo-free pre-marital sex culture. The irony is, we want to have the best of two worlds. It is nothing but hypocrisy at its best, to say the least. newindianexpress.com/opinion/article1398602.ece
[FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Steve Xeno
Share...reading some of the comments here brought to mind a blog piece I wrote awhile back entitled 'Carousel of Physicians.' It's a memoir type piece about part of my own search toward healing and wellness from chronic illnesses. Have you ever read Norman Cousins' book Anatomy of an Illness: As Perceived by the Patient? I know there is lots of info out there now on mind/body illness, etc. Anatomy of an Illness was one of the first I read and I still go back to it (in my head) from time to time. Here's a link to the PDF if you (or anyone in your family) is interested: http://playpen.meraka.csir.co.za/~acdc/education/Dr_Anvind_Gupa/Learners_Library_7_March_2007/Resources/books/Anatomy.pdf I realize you may not be the one endeavoring to overcome any chronic health condition(s) and I am not assuming that. I hope your folks and sister are able to find a bit more wellness along the way. Caring for aging parents with illness conditions can be taxing. Best... *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks again, Steve. Another big part of it for me is finding ways to help my family with their various ailments. My Mom and Dad both are now on so many Western meds that I'd be nervous recommending natural supplements. Though now that my Dad is out of the woods with the killer bacteria, I mentioned echinecea tea as a way to boost his immune system. But even in this instance, I'm a little nervous about how it might combine harmfully with his meds. So I look into any form of energy medicine that comes along. My youngest sister has a rare autoimmune disease. But she is open to and has pursued alternative health care along with allopathic treatments. And just this past year my younger sister had to have part of the bone in her arm removed to be replaced by cement and rods. She continues to be in a lot of pain. I'd hate to see her go on pain meds and she's unlikely to. But if I can find a natural supplement or energy work that can help her with this, that would be great and it's definitely worth my time and money to pursue.   To Xeno: The thing is, so many spiritual seeking boomers are now aging. And they see or have seen the problems with allopathic medicine. For the sake of their aging bodies, they search for better ways to deal all this. And yes, most is psychosomatic. I think even allopathic health care practitioners recognize this. I've said before that I think a lot of souls incarnated at this time because it looked like a RELATIVELY easy time to grow and unfold full potential. I agree with you that there is no path, etc. But it's pointless to live that truth simply based on intellectual understanding. I think we're living in an amazing time when there's support to live this truth based on our own experience. From: seventhray27 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: snip Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology. All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime. That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and grounded. Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues. Last I checked, that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit from if it were made a greater priority. That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark. There is no desperation there. Just a desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their environment. (both near and far) negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). I think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some examples, especially of the grounded part. Share? You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite balanced. As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor. Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve. if you are referring to my comment
[FairfieldLife] Re: India needs early marriage system or dating system?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: In fact, India had the teen-marriage system for thousands of years. This acted as a safety mechanism. But, after the British left in 1947, the age limit was jacked up to 18 for girls and 21 for boys. The problem was no other alternative system was put in place. This led to disasterous behaviour by indian teens. Since, indian politicians hate the dating-system, the only other alternative is to bring back teen-marriage, reduce the marriage age to 16 for girls and 18 for boys. This whole line of reasoning is insane, that there needs to be some sort of female slavery system (forced early marriages) to keep boys and men from raping women. There is a much simpler solution to the problem of rape in India. It comes from feminist groups there, and I actually agree with them that, given the attitudes of the society they live in, it might be the only thing that would work. Castrate the rapists, and put a non-removable-for- life tattoo on their foreheads that says RAPIST. That would effectively remove the rape mentality from the gene pool, and the rapists from society.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that, which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/111818
[FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Steve Xeno
Hey Share, there are no proper documented scientific evidence that alternative therapies work. There are no standardized parameters regarding herbal medicines, besides a lot of herbal medicines contain toxins that damage kidneys if used for too long a period of time. However, there are a lot of connections between the mind and the body. Both are interlinked. I forgot the name of that therapy in which you consciously see your body's healing system and immune system healing your body. This has to be done regularly. They have discovered 40 different auto-immune disorders and the most common is diabetes and arthritis in which your immune system destroys the cell lining in your knees. Tell your sister to hang on with grit. With stem cell research, regenerative medicine and other research going on, some path-breaking cure might come any time around. --- Share Long wrote: Thanks again, Steve. Another big part of it for me is finding ways to help my family with their various ailments. My Mom and Dad both are now on so many Western meds that I'd be nervous recommending natural supplements. Though now that my Dad is out of the woods with the killer bacteria, I mentioned echinecea tea as a way to boost his immune system. But even in this instance, I'm a little nervous about how it might combine harmfully with his meds. So I look into any form of energy medicine that comes along. My youngest sister has a rare autoimmune disease. But she is open to and has pursued alternative health care along with allopathic treatments. And just this past year my younger sister had to have part of the bone in her arm removed to be replaced by cement and rods. She continues to be in a lot of pain. I'd hate to see her go on pain meds and she's unlikely to. But if I can find a natural supplement or energy work that can help her with this, that would be great and it's definitely worth my time and money to pursue. To Xeno: The thing is, so many spiritual seeking boomers are now aging. And they see or have seen the problems with allopathic medicine. For the sake of their aging bodies, they search for better ways to deal all this. And yes, most is psychosomatic. I think even allopathic health care practitioners recognize this. I've said before that I think a lot of souls incarnated at this time because it looked like a RELATIVELY easy time to grow and unfold full potential. I agree with you that there is no path, etc. But it's pointless to live that truth simply based on intellectual understanding. I think we're living in an amazing time when there's support to live this truth based on our own experience. From: seventhray27 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: snip Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology. All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime. That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and grounded. Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues. Last I checked, that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit from if it were made a greater priority. That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark. There is no desperation there. Just a desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their environment. (both near and far) negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). I think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some examples, especially of the grounded part. Share? You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite balanced. As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor. Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve. if you are referring to my comment about Matthew (whatever his last name is), what is it that you find at odds with my comment? Do you feel he should be censored? It seems to me that all I said, was that the man should be able to speak his peace.Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that... Actually, I have many memories of him speaking like that, especially after his week of silence periods. As Curtis has pointed out, it's a schtick, a set of developed mannerisms, not a natural speech pattern at all. ...which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. They probably think it makes him sound all inner silent or enlightened or something. I've run across this speech schtick in many New Agey orgs, not just the TMO. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/111818 You are correct about the breathy, whispery thing, and that Maharishi didn't speak that way. I was thinking more of the cadence and the pauses between words and sentences and the way both used their hands to punctuate things. Maharishi's had a flower in it, but otherwise it was the same thing IMO. I get the feeling from his schtick that the guy feels he has attained some level of enlightenment or awakening, but that he feels how FRAGILE and tenuous it is, so his speech reflects his attempts to hold onto it. Either that or he's just another dick trying to sound like what he thinks a holy guy sounds like. He should have just gone on a few Internet talk groups and claimed to be all enlightened while demonstrating how easily his buttons get pushed and then lashing out at those who push them. Worked for Jim. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes to Turq
I disagree - it is no longer ancient history since the David Lynch Foundation as the front organization for TMO is attempting to re-introduce a sanitized TM back into mainstream society via media blitz and celebrity endorsements - I am opposed to them rooking innocent people looking for meditation into being part of this world - it is a different TMO than when I started in 1974 and now more than ever they look at every potential meditator as a potential cash cow. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes to Turq It was not an official sign by the TMO. There was no they involved. The sign was put up by an anonymous someone on the bulletin board in the coat room of the women's Dome where other life transitions such as births and weddings and birthdays and anniversaries are announced. That person was expressing their own opinion about Triguna's death occurring on Jan 1, the day when many are beginning the traditional week of silence. Yes, I know the world I inhabit. And you do NOT know it, Turq. You merely continue to project onto it your own unresolved stuff. Stuff from decades ago. Ok, I have unresolved stuff too. But at least I have the good sense to recognize it and do something about it that I think is benficial. For God's sake, man, get over the TMO already! It's a new year and all that is ancient history. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: There is a sign up in Bagambhrini Dome saying how auspicious it is that he passed on the first day of silence in the new year. OK, commenting not to be nasty or insulting or anything like that, just to see whether you understand the nature of the world you live in, you DO understand, do you not, that they would have said the same thing if Paul McCartney had died on this day, or David Lynch? It's not about auspiciousness. It's about the TMO trying to co-opt *everything* related to a famous TMer to make it All About Us. Triguna died. The Maharishi-invented days of silence started. There is no relationship between the two events. When someone tries to create one, I think it is justified to ask Why?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostate Meditators
This post shows the elitism that Maha started and that easily took hold on the Fourth Reich mentality all of us have to some degree - in this case that if one is not one of the chosen ones, the TM TB'ers then one is nothing and has nothing of value to contribute. Of course Edg and Turq have covered this but I wanted to give my Never Again TM Self the opportunity to speak. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostate Meditators 2013 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Damned apostate meditators. Well, I must admit here in considering this that being practical as an experienced and an old practiced meditator on FFL I find myself sorting by apostasy and deleting through posts for merit to read by whether the writers are meditators or not meditators at all, whether being disciplined practicing meditators or not, being just critical meditators or apostate and non-meditators. It saves a lot of precious time spiritually. For after all what spiritually speaking could non-meditators or even apostate meditators who quit along the way possibly have to say anyway.. Sorting Apostasy and meditators does work on a level. You know, there are meditators and TM-movement meditators and then others. Meditators after all are either for it or against it as apostates. As a conservative meditator I'd just assume delete the fallen away meditator-apostates as non-meditators. That works. Damned apostate meditators anyway. Plainly, I don't understand why non-meditators even get to be members here let alone post here. Let 'em be lurkers but posting members, no. Frankly this list here could be spiritually improved quite a lot if Rick would tighten up and clean-up the membership towards people who are at least actually meditation practitioners. Hasten the day. -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes
the things that have worked well for me have been acupuncture, some ayurvedice herbs, Chinese formulas and TCM (traditional chinese medicine) but you gotta be damn careful where you get the Chinese herbs - I have also seen acupuncture and TCM have a good effect on animals - I would have to include chiropractic with both humans and animals as having good effect - this is from personal experience, chiro on me, and I observed the difference in friend's horses after having a veterinary chiropractor work on them. Oh, one other thing that has worked well with muscle tightness, stiffness or dysfunction of one type or another and that has ben various type of kinesiology (mainly the form called Touch for Health) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Pampering for the worried well is what they call alternative medicine over here. When you aren't well is when to drop it. Excellent. My forays into science writing and having to delve into the verifiable scientific support for different treatment options (and all too often the utter lack thereof) have left me with even a worse opinion of alternative medicine than of traditional medicine. This buzzphrase kinda nails the mindset of those who (in my opinion, of course) pay the big bucks to quacks primarily because they pay attention to *them*. Another great buzzphrase I've heard lately from the UK was the description used in the press for some of the WAY upper-class baby birthing clinics in the UK catering to the uber-rich and specializing in pumping them so full of drugs that they are barely conscious of the actual birth -- Too posh to push.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Year FFL!!!
He might have been referring to me as I have made several references to M and Company riding around in Bentlys which was meant as a metaphor for begging for money to fund all these big important projects and spending it on themselves. Evidently he requires statement of facts in everyone's posts - which is why I am so impressed that he has shared with us the incontrovertible fact that lots of folks are popping into CC all the time on another post - I laughed out loud when I read it. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 4:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Year FFL!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Dear Dr.; there are actually also quite a lot of people here in Fairfield invibed in these very same retirement values. Have Come about it in the same way through the movement and meditating. Most meditators are spiritual and not Rajas. Of course the monied people got all the attention over the years. But the real story is these quiet people living rich lives otherwise. Fairfield that way is an incredibly easy place to live a very good low overhead high quality intentional spiritual life. There is quite a large community of people living quite intentionally like you that way here. You don't actually see them cause they don't necessarily show it. like your Jag in the lean-to. M kept his Bentley's hidden most of the time too. I wonder why the Buddhist keep insisting that Maharishi had Bentley's. It's as if they learned from Goebbels that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes a truth to the ignorant. Maharishi never had a Bentley or RR, never. Not one. Although it is a lot like coals to Newcastle to point out Nabby's bigotry, fear, elitism, and hatred, I shall do so, for the record. Unless Buck has somehow become a Buddhist overnight, I don't think any Buddhist on this forum has ever suggested that Maharishi had a Bentley. That's Nabby's paranoid fantasy, the same one that causes him to see Big Bad Buddhists lurking behind every bush, working diligently to diss the oh-so-superior Maharishi. While invoking the name of fellow German Goebbels, he ACTS LIKE HIM by repeating yet again yet another lie. What kind of abject fear and elitism could cause some- one to *think* like this? How much conditioning and brainwashing were necessary to turn some German twit living in Norway -- who in all likelihood has never met an actual Buddhist in his life -- to fear them so much, to look down on them so much, and to put his bigotry on display for all to see? It almost blows one's mind. On the other hand, I think that Nabby has probably single-handedly done more to turn people OFF of TM and Maharishi than any person ever posting to FFL. *Anyone* with half a brain can see that he is a fanatic, and a rather nasty one at that. His elitism is a classic example of the very WORST that Maharishi ever had to offer, as is the wearing-blinders vision he has of Maharishi, TM, and their relative importance in the cosmic scheme of things. In reality, we all know that -- because of his Off The Program activities with an even *bigger* charlatan than Maharishi, Benjamin Creme, Nabby would never be allowed within a hundred yards of an official TM flying dome. He's FAR more Off The Program than Doug (Buck) ever was. I honestly don't know whether his hateful approach comes from his many years of being subjected to MMY's closeted bigotry, or whether it's just a product of being German. It's a mystery. But wherever it came from, I give thanks for Nabby and his presence here, because NO ONE ON EARTH could read what he writes and come away from it with a positive view of either TM and what it produces in its followers, or of Maharishi and what he produced in his extreme cultists. He's a one-man army, doing battle to turn people away from the very thing he thinks he's promoting. As I've explained to him many times, and has he has *still* failed to understand, I'M NOT EVEN A BUDDHIST. Neither was Vaj, although both of us have studied with Buddhist teachers. But Nabby will have none of it. He's so convinced of the validity of the word Buddhist he uses the same way a Southern bigot uses the word Nigger that he'll keep using it. He's equally convinced that the Dalai Lama has so little to do that he trains people to go out and get TMers. This is a level of paranoia and self- importance that is difficult to fathom. And (other than the German thang), it seems to ALL be the result of a lifetime of indoctrination in Maharishi's teach- ings and example. What a legacy, eh?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes to Turq
I know I can't post this for several days but Oh My God - here is the king of accusing people of making statements with no facts to back them up claiming that people are popping into Cosmic Consciousness from long practice of TM??? You must be popping pills along with your daily TM - what are they peyote? Mescaline? psilocybin tea? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes to Turq --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, I know the world I inhabit. And you do NOT know it, Turq. You merely continue to project onto it your own unresolved stuff. Stuff from decades ago. Ok, I have unresolved stuff too. But at least I have the good sense to recognize it and do something about it that I think is benficial. For God's sake, man, get over the TMO already! It's a new year and all that is ancient history. He can't get over Maharishi, simply can't. Even more than 40 years since he did a stint in the Movement, even studying with other teachers and becoming a Buddhist cannot erase the memory of the TMO and Maharishi to such a extent that he still today, decades after he last saw a video of Maharishi uses the majority of his 50 alotted posts here to try to trash the only real Saint he was ever within a mile of. What an everlasting impression Maharishi must have done to this poor soul ! Well, now you know how TM transforms a person's life! You can add it to the list of movement successes. This is actually a very important observation. Why do a proportion of people who practice TM end up doing what turquoiseb does? Interesting question. 0.1 % ? His hate is unique. Perhaps, and this is only a theory ofcourse; the success of the Movement in countries formerly dominated by Buddhism is one factor. Another is that people obviously are popping in to CC due to long-term practise of TM. The Turq is no fool even though he behaves like one, he is aware of this success and it reminds him that his life was wasted in wasting time making him an angry and bitter old man. Add to the support for David Lynch from a galaxy of Hollywood celebrities and famous directors (many of whom have not yet stepped forward) and the salt is just being rubbed into his open wounds. And I haven't even mentioned the 8000 school-children now doing YF in Central America with perhaps as many as 29000 will practise within the end of this year... The organisation seems to studiously avoid follow-up of its programs to find out how it actually works out with everyone. The only study I have seen that followed up indicated that only 20% of learners meditated regularly, and a similar proportion on occasion, and the rest stopped. Perhaps, perhaps not. Noone really studied this probably because it is far more interesting to focus on the possibilities and new, younger generations. There will always be people who stop TM, like stopping any other practise, for a zillion of reasons. In my case I did not stop, but lately, the last two or three years or so, due to the changes in the quality of my experience, the structure of my meditations has been spontaneously morphing so that, in the strictest sense of its process, I am not doing TM that much anymore, but I still meditate. Perhaps something good is happening ? If you doubt what is happening why not consult someone you trust. There is a Dr.Dumbass here who seems to be pretty much in the know of many things pertaining to the growth of higher states of consciousness, why not discuss it with him ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon....
It's my guess that if that hunk of rock comes crashing down on Earth the Men's Dome will be right in its cross hairs - isn't comforting to know, Buck that you will be feeling Maharishi's Bliss going up your spine as you bounce across the Dome just as the asteroid slams into and flattens everything around you??? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon It would be real nice to get the Dome numbers of people meditating up before this happens. **!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis – a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid – flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth – rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of the sun. Having crossed outside Earth's orbit, Apophis will appear briefly in the night-time sky. Wednesday 9 January will afford astronomers the rare opportunity to bring a battery of telescopes to bear: from optical telescopes to radio telescopes to the European Space Agency's Infrared Space Observatory Herschel. Two of the biggest unknowns that remain to
Re: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube
This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from a demagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 mainstream20...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
Re: [FairfieldLife] A FFL Meditator Survey
I suggest you read Anita Moorjani's Dying to Be Me from cover to cover and see what her perspective might do for your perspective. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 9:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A FFL Meditator Survey Posit, For where two or three (or more) have come together in meditation, the transcendence is there amidst them. That, Over 600 scientific research studies conducted during the past 35 years at more than 250 independent universities and research institutes in thirty-three countries have shown that the practice of transcending benefits all areas of individual life—mind, body, behavior, and society. Included in this research is compelling evidence that even a small group of practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation program—as few as 1% of a population—create a positive influence on society reducing crime, accidents and other negative trends. This overall increase of positivity in societal trends arises from the increasing purity in collective consciousness of the entire population created by hundreds of individuals experiencing the pure silence and peace of Transcendental Consciousness. This phenomenon, first discovered by scientists in 1974, was named the Maharishi Effect in honor of Maharishi who had predicted it more than a decade earlier. The discovery of the Maharishi Effect by modern science established a new formula for the creation of an ideal peaceful society, free from crime and problems. Experientially, For Practicing transcending meditators who post to or lurk here on FFL, Agree: [This is my experience]. Disagree: [This is not my experience]. To respond to this survey, hit 'reply', answer, ' send': 49 doctordumbass@..., non-meditator 36 Emily Reyn non-meditator 34 Carol 33 Share Long 30 turquoiseb Disagree 29 Ann 26 authfriend 21 salyavin808 Agree 21 nablusoss1008 Agree 20 Buck 15 Bhairitu 13 card 12 raunchydog 12 Alex Stanley 9 obbajeeba 7 Bob Price 6 Susan 6 Jason 5 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 5 Duveyoung non-meditator 5 emilymae.reyn 4 feste37 4 John 3 wgm4u 3 seventhray27 3 seekliberation 3 merudanda Agree 3 merlin 2 emptybill 2 azgrey non-meditator 2 Ravi Chivukula 2 Richard J. Williams 1 laughinggull108 1 Rick Archer Agree 1 martin.quickman Agree 1 Dick Mays
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes
I have to admit I agree with you on this, although I have received benefit from some ayurvedic herbs - actually not formulas but single herbs that have helped me with both diabetes and kidney stones - I know that folks are lionizing Triguna and I had no personal experience of him but when I read the stories of people who did like telling Chopra to look at the moon I am thinking this guy was some sort of health wizard?!?!? If he was then Marshy used him to give credibility to the TMO. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Trigunaji 1916- 1 Jan 2013 In honor of Trigunaji's passing, Interesting start to a story that seems to underline the whole ayurveda story to me. It doesn't work. Triguna's herbs were bitter. I managed to get the herbs past my taste buds by mixing them with a small shot of tea, bolting it down and then chasing it with a big cup of tea. Never drink anything is India that isn't boiled. Anyway, the herbs didn't seem to work and I ended up taking Western medicine, which knocked out the bug in my bad bowel. Taking western medicine Raunchy, very shrewd. I've always thought that experimenting with auyrveda (and all alternative health scams) was fine *as long as there is nothing wrong with you* I know people that would still be alive if they hadn't swallowed, hook line and stinker, the whole perfect science of health bit that Marshy via Triguna was plugging. In fact I know someone who is very seriously ill because he eschewed anti-biotics in favour of stone age hopefulness. Upon becoming ill he took himself off to Marshy's favourite ayurveda clinic where, after a predictably large fortune had been spent -and a cure not forthcoming- he was told there must be some doubt in you. Good medicine! Still, there's always the yagya programme to fall back on. Throwing good money after bad IMO but when you truly believe this stuff what else can you do? The TMO abandoned common sense a long time ago, leave it in the hands of the gods! Might as well as spend any more money on ayurveda . My friend will probably die a long slow miserable death and everyone will rationalise it in the usual way and blame it on his planets or rakshasas or something similarly untestable. Sometimes I think a crime is being committed but maybe it's just the crime of stupidity. After all we are intelligent people who are free to make choices based on evidence or beliefs. Seems a shame that an org like the TMO with its proclaimed belief in science has such a shaky superstitious core lying just beneath the surface, they might be in a position to help people by recommending they go to a proper doctor instead of clinging to the dream that they have all the answers by taking your pulse and telling you to stare at the moon. So why all the reverence? Would you really want to live in a world where ayurveda was the only method of healthcare? Anyone? Jai Guru Dev, Trigunaji, rest in peace.
[FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at least support the enjoyment of others. As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided to not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too. As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew. Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too. I hope so. But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every opportunity to snipe nastily at me. They continue to have a confrontational tone towards me, even on the most mundane of topics. Weird! Plus they ignore it when I do post a positive reply to them. You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with her running out of money situation would have better things to do with their time and energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me into the new year. Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and Robin! So IMO there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this grudge into the new year. And I won't be a part of it. I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing. But I will not reply to any posts that are nasty, condescending, confrontational, snide, etc. In other words, grudgy! Who does such exchanges benefit? NO ONE! OTOH thank you to everyone who's made FFL so enjoyable during the holidays and even more recently. You all have shown me that it's possible to have great discussions and good humor without being nasty. love and hugs Share http://youtu.be/iLAic2uVlWo Oh Raunchy, she won't get it but I do. You are one funny woman. I'll be looking you up when I'm next in FF. I think there is some healer named Wombat Mercurio who is coming there in February. His specialty is using corn stalks as symbolic Earth forces to prop up the participants as he performs a ceremonial dance on soybeans. As you can tell, this is infinitely suited to the Iowa setting. He won't even have to bring his own props as there are plenty at hand. Saves on the baggage fees at the airport. I also understand, that for a slightly reduced rate, you can experience this from home via skype, you just need a couple of cans of Green Giant corn niblets and some soy milk; he tells you how to effectively use this modified method to great success from the comforts of your own computer room. I am including a picture of Wombat in case you see him on the street and want his autograph. He is shown with a recent course participant preparing the healing stalks and she is obviously thrilled to be part of the healing preparations. That Wombat, he really attracts the women. I will look you up when I'm in town. I'll be the woman wearing the red feathers in my hair and sporting crystals the size of sugar cubes around my neck - I still have strands and strands of them from when I bought them at the Crest Jewel in FF 30 years ago (no joke).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Culmination of Kumbabishekam, Gowthama Maharishi Temple, Tiruvannamalai
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard wrote: This is a temple on Arunachala's pradakshina route, where Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi would stop and meditate when doing Arunachala girivalam. This shows the actual Kumbabishekam, and the breathing life into the idol to bestow the soul of god. This is the last of a three-part series that provides an in-depth view of the ancient Hindu ceremony. Without this ceremony a Hindu temple would just be some building, rather that the place of the living God. http://richardarunachala.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/culmination-of-kumbabishekam-of-gowthama-maharishi-temple-in-tiruvannamalai/ I have tried to show this event in detail and provide detail on the process. If anyone has corrections and amplifications on this, please let me know. Richard God doesn't necessarily enter the Murthi to start living in a Temple. The God must be attracted to living there and sometimes simply doesn't go. This has happened with very famous indian Temples, known only to Yogis. What God was invited to live there, and have you seen Him/Her ? If not, these are only nice pictures.
[FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at least support the enjoyment of others. As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided to not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too. That's a very good idea, too much nonsense floating around here to bother answering to. Have a nice weekend Share :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. You know, for about two seconds I wondered whether he was trying to imitate Maharishi, then I watched a few more seconds and decided, no, this is his own shtick. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? Even if that's what he was doing, no, it wouldn't be fascinating. What's fascinating is that you would cream your jeans thinking you had an opportunity to put down the people you don't like. A ridiculously bad imitation of somebody one admires is highly unlikely to inspire one to admire the imitator. What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. (In fact, MMY was a skinny little dude.) However funny other people might have found MMY, most of them would have recognized that the way he talked was...uh...the way he talked. It was natural to him. Obviously that wasn't the case with this nitwit. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him Translation: expressed their opinion of him, just as Barry is doing here. It isn't piling on when Barry does it, you see, only when those he doesn't like do it. lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. And if this were true, and if other people would have reacted negatively to MMY, that means we should have reacted the same way? Are you reading what you're writing? Because you are making zero sense. It's just one more instance of Barry desperately needing to put his own critics down, regardless of whether he has anything meaningful to say. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know...
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
are you f*ing kidding me? What utter BS. Based on the dweeb's presence, I wouldn't trust him for directions across the street. He parrots Maharishi's style, but as my wife immediately noticed, when this kid pauses, there's nothing, whereas Maharishi's pauses were full of consciousness, an *obvious* difference. You can throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I'll bet dollars to donuts Maharishi could kick this kid's ass with *both* hands tied behind his back. As for your oft repeated mantra that Marshy was a conman - sour grapes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] First impression review: Seven Psychopaths
This film by Martin McDonough (writer-director of In Bruges) has been called similar to the work of Quentin Tarantino. And that's true, but I liked it almost as much as I liked Django Unchained, which means that I thought it was one of the best films of the year. But many people won't agree, because both the plot and the dialogue will be too quirky for them. Take as an example of the latter an early exchange between a guy named Marty writing a screenplay and his buddy Billy: Billy: How's the Seven Psychopaths coming, Marty? Marty: Slow, slow. I've got the title, y'know...just haven't been able to come up with all the psychopaths yet. Billy: How many you got? Marty: One. And he ain't really much of a psychopath. He's more of a...kind of a Buddhist. Billy: A Buddhist? Marty: Yeah, I'm sick of all these stereotypical Hollywood murderer scumbag type psychopath movies. I don't want it to be one more film about guys with guns in their hands. I want it...overall...to be about love...and peace. But it still has to be about these seven psychopaths, so this Buddhist psychopath, he...he doesn't believe in violence. I don't know what the fuck he's going to do in the movie. Marty later changes his mind, and turns the Buddhist psychopath into a Quaker psychopath, but the movie winds up having a Buddhist in it anyway. Don't ask me to explain how. This is a very quirky movie written by a guy named Marty about a guy named Marty writing a movie, and as such is kind of a cinematic moebius strip. It's also got (to say the least) a great cast, including Sam Rockwell, Colin Farrell, Abbie Cornish, Christopher Walken, Harry Dean Stanton, Tom Waits, and Woody Harrelson. I liked it, but it's WAY too convoluted for me to try to explain to you why, so I'll let Roger Ebert explain why he liked it. He gave it 3-1/2 stars (out of four); I would have gone for four. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121010/REVIE\ WS/121019997/0/wikipedia http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121010/REVI\ EWS/121019997/0/wikipedia
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
Oh, yes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Are you talking about the Livingston Manor facility? From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews  I do not know if it still exists. Beautiful scenery, though the place was already a dump when I lived there in 1978, just after it was turned into a men's facility. There was one functional wing, and that was reserved for the Governors. I lived first in a vermin infested shack, through the snow, down by the lake, then later in a leaky and cold dorm room. We had electricity but no hot water, and for awhile there was no plumbing at all in the entire facility for flushing toilets (except in the functional wing) - awesome smell! The roofs leaked everywhere. There were big rats in the kitchen where all the course food was prepared. The office building was really shaky - three stories tall, and about a hundred years old at the time. I was on the printing crew, and sometimes had to manipulate a forklift with faulty brakes around the basement, careful not to knock any support beams out of place, and bring the building down on top of me. The benefits: Saw the Northern Lights many, many times, and deer also abounded on the property. I also did residence courses (4x4) every month, and rounded 2x2 the rest of the time, so it served its purpose for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I recall this one, rare, time when some bigwigs were coming into La Guardia airport in NYC, and I was on staff at a TM facility in the Catskills. There were a couple of limos there, should Maharishi come to visit, though he never did - Anyway, I was decked out in my khakis and got picked for driver duty, for one of the limos. We were about 2 or 3 hours out from NYC, and probably got a late start, so the director, Tim, riding in the back by himself, told me he was going to do his [meditation] program, and instructed me to drive as fast as I wanted, because, Nature will support. 85 to 90 mph, all the way in - lot's of fun!! And yet, all teachers had been told not to have someone in the car meditating since their transcending could pull the driver's awareness off the road!! This info was also given out in 3 days' checking, I think. All in all, working in the Catskills might have had some benefits and fun times. The place became a mold infested, toxic place once the roof gave way and water leaks were not repaired. I think the town officials literally sealed off sections of the buildings. Is it still there? Driving Movement vehicles was always a blast, like when I'd take this big box truck into the Bowery, or some nearly deserted warehouse in Brooklyn, to drop off copies of the Movement magazine. Could pretty much drive any which way I wanted to, running lights, double parking, as that was the local custom. Helped make up for the $5 a week I made, cash.:-) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Ha! Well, it's nice to be in the younger crowd. hehe I was a cherry picker and dish washer in The Way. :D I seldom got the higher assignments to rub really close shoulders with the higher and more spiritual leadership. But I didn't see the hypocrisy, like you did in the TMO. The hypocrisy was there in The Way, but some I didn't see because it went on behind closed doors and the times I did see what *might be an apparent* (barf) hypocrisy, I chose to rationalize it. After all, the leadership knew what was best for the followers and always had our best interest in mind. (sarcasm) It's a long story of course. We all have those...long stories. To cherry picking, strawberries, and dirty dishes! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Barry.(and me too).lol. I have a theory back from 1981-ish when I did my last staff stint with The Movement. I had a good friend, Jack, who mentioned something, after the last bout of arrogance and power-tripping we were exposed to by A Governor Of The A Of E And Don't You Forget It, aka TM Teacher. Jack turned to me and said, Someone must be telling these guys something [that makes them feel this way]. We were fortunate, that although the construction and farming project had a lot of Governors, aka fundamentalist overlords (though there were one or two decent ones), we were doing hard physical work that kept us grounded, and aware of the hypocrisy. So, my theory is that some of these Governors having been taught
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: snip What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that, which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. Of course Maharishi didn't actually speak like that. He didn't talk like a Westerner, but he didn't insert artificial pauses after every phrase. He did pause occasionally to let something sink in, or to think how best to express something (he was pretty fluent in English, but it wasn't his native language; and he was having to translate concepts that weren't familiar to Westerners). This other dude is a native English speaker. He knew exactly what he was going to say; he didn't need to keep pausing to formulate his thoughts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Hey MJ, you're on quite a roll. You must be feeling much better letting go of that pent up angst. How many more saved up posts do you reckon you have? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
He should have just gone on a few Internet talk groups and claimed to be all enlightened while demonstrating how easily his buttons get pushed and then lashing out at those who push them. Worked for Jim. :-) True. Too bad it hasn't worked for you, though. It was one forum, this one, and I thank all of those who challenged me at the time - It was a big help. As for being stuck in a RUT, and continuing to try and push my buttons now, that says a hell of a lot more about you TB, and your complete lack of progress, since then. As back story, I haven't been a part of any spiritual group, though have continued to do TM. About seven years ago, I popped into CC, what I thought was full enlightenment (it isn't). I shared that info here, and it wasn't well received, which pissed me off, because I felt my integrity was being challenged. It also had the wonderful effect of putting a choice in front of me, regarding the outside world - if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. All in all a wonderful journey of spiritual integration and discovery. The only thing that hasn't changed one bit, is you, Barry. What a shame. Still the same assh*le now, as then. Oh well, enjoy...I guess. I will! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. It's not pure Maharishi, it's pure TMO. MMY doesn't actually speak like that... Actually, I have many memories of him speaking like that, especially after his week of silence periods. As Curtis has pointed out, it's a schtick, a set of developed mannerisms, not a natural speech pattern at all. ...which is why I find it puzzling that people around him would embrace such a ridiculous affectation. They probably think it makes him sound all inner silent or enlightened or something. I've run across this speech schtick in many New Agey orgs, not just the TMO. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/111818 You are correct about the breathy, whispery thing, and that Maharishi didn't speak that way. I was thinking more of the cadence and the pauses between words and sentences and the way both used their hands to punctuate things. Maharishi's had a flower in it, but otherwise it was the same thing IMO. I get the feeling from his schtick that the guy feels he has attained some level of enlightenment or awakening, but that he feels how FRAGILE and tenuous it is, so his speech reflects his attempts to hold onto it. Either that or he's just another dick trying to sound like what he thinks a holy guy sounds like. He should have just gone on a few Internet talk groups and claimed to be all enlightened while demonstrating how easily his buttons get pushed and then lashing out at those who push them. Worked for Jim. :-)
[FairfieldLife] For Those Who Can't Get Enough
http://thewholeness.com/flordemayo/ Check it out, you can even send money. I showed my husband his first video that was posted here (the one in front of the bad rug). He asked me what was wrong with the guy. He asked why he spoke so slowly. He said at the rate the man was talking that lecture would have taken hours. Then he started laughing, I think he still didn't believe the guy wasn't off some SNL skit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
I wasn't able to post since I had used up my post allotment last week From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere Hey MJ, you're on quite a roll. You must be feeling much better letting go of that pent up angst. How many more saved up posts do you reckon you have? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Those Who Can't Get Enough
He is truly living the foolness of life itself!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: http://thewholeness.com/flordemayo/ Check it out, you can even send money. I showed my husband his first video that was posted here (the one in front of the bad rug). He asked me what was wrong with the guy. He asked why he spoke so slowly. He said at the rate the man was talking that lecture would have taken hours. Then he started laughing, I think he still didn't believe the guy wasn't off some SNL skit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere
Right - gives you time to compose. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere I wasn't able to post since I had used up my post allotment last week From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere Hey MJ, you're on quite a roll. You must be feeling much better letting go of that pent up angst. How many more saved up posts do you reckon you have? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah the fact that he was brain buzzed by thousands of hours of exposure to the most successful con man of the 20th century filled him with desire to follow in his footsteps - he is as much of a huckster as Marshy was. From: mainstream20016 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube - the guy's probably sincere  Matthew is probably the son of Walter Reifslager, Jr., a long-time TMer, and grandson of a Walter, Sr., a recently deceased very community-minded and honorable Psychiatrist in Austin. Or a close relative thereof of those two gentlemen. Until proven to be otherwise, or to harm someone, he deserves the opportunity to expound that which he sincerely believes, even if he's deceived himself. Exponents of a new version of reality regularly pay a heavy price. Of course, it's not ironic that FFL's sets such a high threshold for acceptance. If he is an MSAE grad, he's had thousands of hours of exposure to MMYs discourses. IMHO he's contributing to creation of new knowledge. I'm not drawn to it, but may he be given room to try to 'splain it as he sees it. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: He's doing a take-off on some new agish types, right? This is a joke, right? No, it's not a joke. From what I've heard, it's a very messed up cult trip where the guy controls people by telling them, Divine Mother says..., even to the point of people going into debt to support him financially. I watched some of the video, and I'm creeped out by it. There's a sucker born every minute. These creepy gurus are laughing all the way to the bank and man are they getting off on the adulation, big time. Anyone want to go crash the party? It could be a riot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka.  From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by. I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one. Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird. I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves. It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka.  From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
I received a bottle of Don Julio 1942 anejo tequila for the holidays - It isn't as old as that, though produced using the same methods. I enjoy a salt rimmed classic margy any time, or a decent tequila over fresh lemonade, but this stuff, I must sip straight. And it definitely has an unusual effect as you say - more than simply the alcohol - the agave cactus too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. àFrom: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube àObviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
A good recipe for a home made bloody mary: glass one third full of ice add a tbsp. worcestershire sauce about ten drops tabasco or habenero sauce vodka til the ice floats V8 or similar salt to taste coarse ground pepper stir thoroughly --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. àFrom: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube àObviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
I was only there once for the fist block of my sidhis course - Bevan and John Cowhig, TM Sidhi administrators I can't remember the year - it was in the winter and there had just been a big snow/ice storm a few days before - lots of pipes had frozen and supposedly one well pump had been knocked out by lightning - it was one of those snow storms that had thunder and lightning - the staff place 50 gallon drums with water inthem so we could use buckets to dip water to fill the toilet tank to flush the toilet This was the course where when I first walked into the lobby of the facility there was the big poster of Sidha man - the one that no one else seems to remember - with a Superman looking guy replete with blue and red uniform and a big yellow S on his chest (for Sidha-man) and the caption at the bottom saying Be a Superman - Be a Sidhaman! From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews Oh, yes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Are you talking about the Livingston Manor facility? From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews  I do not know if it still exists. Beautiful scenery, though the place was already a dump when I lived there in 1978, just after it was turned into a men's facility. There was one functional wing, and that was reserved for the Governors. I lived first in a vermin infested shack, through the snow, down by the lake, then later in a leaky and cold dorm room. We had electricity but no hot water, and for awhile there was no plumbing at all in the entire facility for flushing toilets (except in the functional wing) - awesome smell! The roofs leaked everywhere. There were big rats in the kitchen where all the course food was prepared. The office building was really shaky - three stories tall, and about a hundred years old at the time. I was on the printing crew, and sometimes had to manipulate a forklift with faulty brakes around the basement, careful not to knock any support beams out of place, and bring the building down on top of me. The benefits: Saw the Northern Lights many, many times, and deer also abounded on the property. I also did residence courses (4x4) every month, and rounded 2x2 the rest of the time, so it served its purpose for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I recall this one, rare, time when some bigwigs were coming into La Guardia airport in NYC, and I was on staff at a TM facility in the Catskills. There were a couple of limos there, should Maharishi come to visit, though he never did - Anyway, I was decked out in my khakis and got picked for driver duty, for one of the limos. We were about 2 or 3 hours out from NYC, and probably got a late start, so the director, Tim, riding in the back by himself, told me he was going to do his [meditation] program, and instructed me to drive as fast as I wanted, because, Nature will support. 85 to 90 mph, all the way in - lot's of fun!! And yet, all teachers had been told not to have someone in the car meditating since their transcending could pull the driver's awareness off the road!! This info was also given out in 3 days' checking, I think. All in all, working in the Catskills might have had some benefits and fun times. The place became a mold infested, toxic place once the roof gave way and water leaks were not repaired. I think the town officials literally sealed off sections of the buildings. Is it still there? Driving Movement vehicles was always a blast, like when I'd take this big box truck into the Bowery, or some nearly deserted warehouse in Brooklyn, to drop off copies of the Movement magazine. Could pretty much drive any which way I wanted to, running lights, double parking, as that was the local custom. Helped make up for the $5 a week I made, cash.:-) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Ha! Well, it's nice to be in the younger crowd. hehe I was a cherry picker and dish washer in The Way. :D I seldom got the higher assignments to rub really close shoulders with the higher and more spiritual leadership. But I didn't see the hypocrisy, like you did in the TMO. The hypocrisy was there in The Way, but some I didn't see because it went on behind closed doors and the times I did see what *might be an apparent* (barf) hypocrisy, I chose to rationalize it. After all, the leadership knew
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: A good recipe for a home made bloody mary: glass one third full of ice add a tbsp. worcestershire sauce about ten drops tabasco or habenero sauce vodka til the ice floats V8 or similar salt to taste coarse ground pepper stir thoroughly Yum, sounds like a meal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka. àFrom: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube àObviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
I don't recall the poster, though it should have showed him carrying a bucket of water [to flush his toilet] - would've been more Zen, too.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I was only there once for the fist block of my sidhis course - Bevan and John Cowhig, TM Sidhi administrators I can't remember the year - it was in the winter and there had just been a big snow/ice storm a few days before - lots of pipes had frozen and supposedly one well pump had been knocked out by lightning - it was one of those snow storms that had thunder and lightning - the staff place 50 gallon drums with water inthem so we could use buckets to dip water to fill the toilet tank to flush the toilet This was the course where when I first walked into the lobby of the facility there was the big poster of Sidha man - the one that no one else seems to remember - with a Superman looking guy replete with blue and red uniform and a big yellow S on his chest (for Sidha-man) and the caption at the bottom saying Be a Superman - Be a Sidhaman! From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews  Oh, yes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Are you talking about the Livingston Manor facility? From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews àI do not know if it still exists. Beautiful scenery, though the place was already a dump when I lived there in 1978, just after it was turned into a men's facility. There was one functional wing, and that was reserved for the Governors. I lived first in a vermin infested shack, through the snow, down by the lake, then later in a leaky and cold dorm room. We had electricity but no hot water, and for awhile there was no plumbing at all in the entire facility for flushing toilets (except in the functional wing) - awesome smell! The roofs leaked everywhere. There were big rats in the kitchen where all the course food was prepared. The office building was really shaky - three stories tall, and about a hundred years old at the time. I was on the printing crew, and sometimes had to manipulate a forklift with faulty brakes around the basement, careful not to knock any support beams out of place, and bring the building down on top of me. The benefits: Saw the Northern Lights many, many times, and deer also abounded on the property. I also did residence courses (4x4) every month, and rounded 2x2 the rest of the time, so it served its purpose for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I recall this one, rare, time when some bigwigs were coming into La Guardia airport in NYC, and I was on staff at a TM facility in the Catskills. There were a couple of limos there, should Maharishi come to visit, though he never did - Anyway, I was decked out in my khakis and got picked for driver duty, for one of the limos. We were about 2 or 3 hours out from NYC, and probably got a late start, so the director, Tim, riding in the back by himself, told me he was going to do his [meditation] program, and instructed me to drive as fast as I wanted, because, Nature will support. 85 to 90 mph, all the way in - lot's of fun!! And yet, all teachers had been told not to have someone in the car meditating since their transcending could pull the driver's awareness off the road!! This info was also given out in 3 days' checking, I think. All in all, working in the Catskills might have had some benefits and fun times. The place became a mold infested, toxic place once the roof gave way and water leaks were not repaired. I think the town officials literally sealed off sections of the buildings. Is it still there? Driving Movement vehicles was always a blast, like when I'd take this big box truck into the Bowery, or some nearly deserted warehouse in Brooklyn, to drop off copies of the Movement magazine. Could pretty much drive any which way I wanted to, running lights, double parking, as that was the local custom. Helped make up for the $5 a week I made, cash.:-) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Ha! Well, it's nice to be in the younger crowd. hehe I was a cherry picker and dish washer in The Way. :D I seldom got the higher assignments to rub really close shoulders with the higher and more spiritual leadership. But I didn't see the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Well, I might try this and report back - after drinking it of course. Ha. Watch out. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube A good recipe for a home made bloody mary: glass one third full of ice add a tbsp. worcestershire sauce about ten drops tabasco or habenero sauce vodka til the ice floats V8 or similar salt to taste coarse ground pepper stir thoroughly --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I love a good bloody mary, but they are hard to come by.  I only drink them once a year and there is only one bartender I've found that makes a really good one.  Really, the only hard alcohol I can drink anymore is a decent tequila - it wakes me up, which is weird.  I once went to a work party in a cool downtown Seattle loft where the guy had amassed a number of specialty tequilas from Mexico that you won't find on the shelves.  It was pretty interesting - he knew everything about the region/locale they were made in, how they were made, who made them, etc.  From: doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: This one agrees - I'm guessing he'd feel better if he downed a few shots of good vodka.  From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  Obviously Finns are good sports (-: From: card To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? Looks like he is finnish ! :-) ROFLOL! http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Yuck! :/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:12 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later. To be honest, Ravi, I admit to having read some of your posts from this vacation, and I have wanted before to remark that I feel it's done you a world of good. Whether it is a result of being with your family, or having touched base with India again, or just the passage of time, your posts during this pilgrimage have been the most grounded of the entire time I've been exposed to you on the Internet. May this trend continue. Good on you, guy. Gee..thanks Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from a demagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube  From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve, About PTSD
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: snip Unstressing as I understand it is the release of stress from the physiology and mind/emotions in an amount or to such a degree that the release is uncomfortable and/or results in unpleasant and sometimes inappropriate manifestation of mental/emotional states and behavior that is detrimental to the individual. That's how the term unstressing is commonly used, but in my understanding, technically it refers to what happens during TM practice automatically. Thoughts that arise in meditation are said to be release of stress, even if they're pleasant. People with PTSD are already in the midst of such non-TM unstressing with flashbacks, intrusive thoughts and nightmares, they donât need a technique that creates more unstressing. I agree. Let me ask you a hypothetical question, though. If TM were to be taught to PTSD sufferers by an independent group of folks trained as TM teachers but no longer loyal to the TMO, just as a mental technique without all the frills, and they had special training in how to minimize uncomfortable unstressing (reducing meditation time, etc.--down to zero, if necessary)--*and* using whatever other techniques had been shown to be helpful--would you be as adamantly opposed?
[FairfieldLife] New Discovery: Largest Structure in the Universe
We wonder how MMY would explain this as part of the human physiology. http://news.yahoo.com/largest-structure-universe-discovered-093416167.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. Back in my drinking days, Skyy was my vodka of choice. I never could understand the hype about Stoli; I tried it once, and it was nasty-ass rotgut.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
I hate to admit this, but I had to stop watching after the first 1/2 a sentence. Felt a lot of pain coming from the guy. From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from a demagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube  From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I hate to admit this, but I had to stop watching after the first 1/2 a sentence.  Felt a lot of pain coming from the guy.  I didn't get any pain from him, just the experience of watching him was painful for me and the first time I watched it was only about three sentences - it was just so EMBARRASSING. Then when more people started posting about it I made myself watch about a minute more to make sure it didn't get any better, or that he didn't suddenly burst out laughing and admit he was having everyone on. But, alas, he didn't. From: seekliberation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from aàdemagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube àFrom TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
I could have been projecting my pain on how out of touch he was. I find people that are completely out of touch extremely painful to observe. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I hate to admit this, but I had to stop watching after the first 1/2 a sentence.  Felt a lot of pain coming from the guy.  I didn't get any pain from him, just the experience of watching him was painful for me and the first time I watched it was only about three sentences - it was just so EMBARRASSING. Then when more people started posting about it I made myself watch about a minute more to make sure it didn't get any better, or that he didn't suddenly burst out laughing and admit he was having everyone on. But, alas, he didn't. From: seekliberation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube  I 'LITERALLY' had to stop watching after the 1st 2 sentances. People like him are the reason we are are never going to get TM to the masses. All you have to do is look at the behaviour of their leaders and many of their followers and you know right away these people couldn't even be trusted to explain to us how to tie our shoes, let alone trust them to teach us how to develop our consciousness. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: This guy is whacked out - again, Marshy's energy - there have been and continue to be guru wannabes who start with TM and go off to start their own schtick. Learn from a demagogue, become a demagogue. Follow a huckster, become a huckster. From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSAE graduate on youtube  From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I received a bottle of Don Julio 1942 anejo tequila for the holidays - It isn't as old as that, though produced using the same methods. I enjoy a salt rimmed classic margy any time, or a decent tequila over fresh lemonade, but this stuff, I must sip straight. And it definitely has an unusual effect as you say - more than simply the alcohol - the agave cactus too. No barbs or criticism in this post, Jim, just an agreement. Don Julio 1942 is a quite accept- able tequila, and I say this as a person who has lived in Santa Fe, where some bars had 140 varieties of tequila or mescal, many of them costing more than the Don Julio, and worth it. I'm writing out of envy. You simply can't get good sippin' tequila here in the Netherlands. The Dutch -- and truth be told most of Europe -- have never developed a taste for the stuff. Therefore there is no perceived market for it, and no importers willing to import it. Sigh. Tequila and mescal are like single-malt Scotches in that they age well, and benefit from the aging. The true aficionados can blind sip a good tequila and tell you what *village* it came from, much less which region. The best I ever tasted was a single-village mescal, made from wild -- as opposed to cultivated -- agave. It was like the difference between wild ginseng and cultivated ginseng -- night and day. It cost $300 a bottle, and people who tasted it were lining up to buy it. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Just thinking of you Ravi. Yes, Alex's post was very perfect. Cyber drama is not important and family drama often warrants attention - in my family at least. Love you, thinking of you, send pictures at your discretion and on your timeline. Take good care. Love, Em. Thank you dear Em - here's a picture just for you :-). My elder sis offered to massage coconut oil on my head and I got very excited and gladly obliged. http://flic.kr/p/dKUvwa -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2013 11:35 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I could have been projecting my pain on how out of touch he was. I find people that are completely out of touch extremely painful to observe. Well put, me too. I remember when Nixon resigned, my two roommates were anxious to watch the speech. We hadn't had dinner yet, and we decided to order in Chinese food. I couldn't bear to see him humiliating himself, much as I loathed him, so I volunteered to go pick up the food, figuring the speech would be almost over by the time I got back. As I walked into the restaurant, I was horrified to find that they had set up a TV set for their dinner customers to watch. It was a tiny place, so I couldn't avoid seeing most of the speech as I waited for the order. It was agonizing, just as I had feared.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we were. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at least support the enjoyment of others. As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided to not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too. As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew. Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we were. You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them going. If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience to explain it to you. I don't. Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share. Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too. I hope so. But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every opportunity to snipe nastily at me. They continue to have a confrontational tone towards me, even on the most mundane of topics. Weird! Plus they ignore it when I do post a positive reply to them. You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with her running out of money situation would have better things to do with their time and energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me into the new year. Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and Robin! So IMO there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this grudge into the new year. And I won't be a part of it. I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing. But I will not reply to any posts that are nasty, condescending, confrontational, snide, etc. In other words, grudgy! Who does such exchanges benefit? NO ONE! OTOH thank you to everyone who's made FFL so enjoyable during the holidays and even more recently. You all have shown me that it's possible to have great discussions and good humor without being nasty. love and hugs Share
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: ** Just thinking of you Ravi. Yes, Alex's post was very perfect. Cyber drama is not important and family drama often warrants attention - in my family at least. Love you, thinking of you, send pictures at your discretion and on your timeline. Take good care. Love, Em. Thank you dear Em - here's a picture just for you :-). My elder sis offered to massage coconut oil on my head and I got very excited and gladly obliged. http://flic.kr/p/dKUvwa Fantastic picture, thanks for sharing that. I also would enjoy a coconut oil head massage. In fact, any massage will do. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2013 11:35 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc.
Ravi, it's just wonderful to see you looking and sounding so happy. Whatever family dramas there are, I hope they resolve quickly and easily. Thank you dear Share - no there's nothing to resolve - from my end anyway, I quite relish dramas. My exaggerated and dramatic displays of irony laden emotions, antics are hopefully being registered. And - as always sincerity is being met with reciprocal sincerity. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Judy, well here in FF I'm at least 19 hours away from the ocean, etc. So 3 hours away is relatively speaking, like living on the beach. Like that like that. Except since you are ON the beach, maybe not. BTW thank you for nugget about TM courses being advances rather than retreats. Ravi, it's just wonderful to see you looking and sounding so happy. Whatever family dramas there are, I hope they resolve quickly and easily. Judy, I didn't pick up that turq was being condescending. I thought he was expressing something mushy the way that guys sometimes do. A little awkwardly. But I really liked that he made the effort. Unlike that Bob Price who is just an old grumpy boots IMHO. Hanging on to old grudges in which he did not even participate! Nabbley, I think Merlin is a boy's name. John, I did vote. Alex, please do not allow the inventor of the bulemia machine to join FFL. Thank you. LaughingG, I tried Matthew's work for about a month. It did not resonate. But I have friends who think he's the cat's meow. Which is a very strange phrase if you ask me. This week I've been taking some workshops with Paul Wong artofneutrality. Very wonderful stuff (-: I'm also reading a very funny book by Ellen DeGeneres. -- *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2013 2:33 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to merudanda --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: And just to throw another ingredient into the stew, DC place of my birth is of course in the Chesapeake Bay watershed. I know this because for 20 years I drove from FF to DC every December and saw the sign, somewhere in WVA declaring this fact which always gave me a big thrill. As for this coastline business, I say it's all relative. Growing up in the Maryland suburbs of DC I definitely thought I had not only a coastline but also a beach and an ocean. Though all 3 hours away by car. Sorry, babe, but three hours away by car is much too relative.
[FairfieldLife] 400,000 galaxies zoomed through at 1,262,304,000,000,000 times speed of light.
This is as profound as far as these experiences can go. Very effective. Two things: First: note the sheer vastness and that each snowflake in this dark winter scene has a hundred million planets. Second: LOOK AT THE SPACE INSTEAD OF THE STARS -- feel your outermost extensions of isness -- AND THEN BEYOND. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=YzaCPKVk8hs The 'camera' in this video is travelling at 1,262,304,000,000,000 times the speed of light. The animation shows less#65279; than 1% of the estimated 170 billion galaxies in the observable Universe. Each galaxy contains between 10 million and 100 trillion stars.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: ** Just thinking of you Ravi. Yes, Alex's post was very perfect. Cyber drama is not important and family drama often warrants attention - in my family at least. Love you, thinking of you, send pictures at your discretion and on your timeline. Take good care. Love, Em. Thank you dear Em - here's a picture just for you :-). My elder sis offered to massage coconut oil on my head and I got very excited and gladly obliged. http://flic.kr/p/dKUvwa Fantastic picture, thanks for sharing that. I also would enjoy a coconut oil head massage. In fact, any massage will do. Thank you dear Ann - it's holiday time here in India, Yet another Hindu New Year/Makara Sankranti/Pongal/Sun's northerly sojourn, transit into Sidereal Capricorn on Jan 14th - schools are off - everyone's around, it's all good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 400,000 galaxies zoomed through at 1,262,304,000,000,000 times speed of light.
Third: Imagine that these images are recorded/ imagined not from a telescope but from a micro- scope, zooming in to an individual atom. Humans are incapable of imagining the universe they live in, because they cannot comprehend that the scale they live on is not universal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: This is as profound as far as these experiences can go. Very effective. Two things: First: note the sheer vastness and that each snowflake in this dark winter scene has a hundred million planets. Second: LOOK AT THE SPACE INSTEAD OF THE STARS -- feel your outermost extensions of isness -- AND THEN BEYOND. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=YzaCPKVk8hs The 'camera' in this video is travelling at 1,262,304,000,000,000 times the speed of light. The animation shows less#65279; than 1% of the estimated 170 billion galaxies in the observable Universe. Each galaxy contains between 10 million and 100 trillion stars.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve, About PTSD
After much thought, I think I would still recommend something other than TM for PTSD relief. TM was always marketed as the be all and end all of meditations and it is not, so with so many alternatives out there that do not carry the blemishes of Marshy, TMO and known unpleasant effects (unstressing) I prefer to see them doing something else. Also from a personal point of view, although some here say they always did TM for the extra rest, or that it made them feel better TM from 1955 to the late 70's, early 80's was always marketed as a way to achieve fullness of life - by gaining enlightenment. I no longer believe that anyone will ever gain enlightenment through practicing TM, there has never been anyone who has that I have ever heard of - those who claim to have been seem to either create their own self aggrandizing cults or become real basket cases. Those who report strong experiences of what came to, in TM speak, be called CC, GC or UC seem to have fallen out of those states after a time. Some teachers like Adyashanti and Eckhart Tolle say that no one will ever become enlightened through ANY kind of meditation since what we consider as the state of enlightenment is our natural state of being, so if the original reason to do TM is not going to happen, why run around shouting TM is good from the rooftops? From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve, About PTSD --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Unstressing as I understand it is the release of stress from the physiology and mind/emotions in an amount or to such a degree that the release is uncomfortable and/or results in unpleasant and sometimes inappropriate manifestation of mental/emotional states and behavior that is detrimental to the individual. That's how the term unstressing is commonly used, but in my understanding, technically it refers to what happens during TM practice automatically. Thoughts that arise in meditation are said to be release of stress, even if they're pleasant. People with PTSD are already in the midst of such non-TM unstressing with flashbacks, intrusive thoughts and nightmares, they don’t need a technique that creates more unstressing. I agree. Let me ask you a hypothetical question, though. If TM were to be taught to PTSD sufferers by an independent group of folks trained as TM teachers but no longer loyal to the TMO, just as a mental technique without all the frills, and they had special training in how to minimize uncomfortable unstressing (reducing meditation time, etc.--down to zero, if necessary)--*and* using whatever other techniques had been shown to be helpful--would you be as adamantly opposed?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc.
I've been running around a lot today. Obviously we have constant miscommunication issues here. Yesterday Judy makes a light hearted correction to one of Barry 2's posts, and he reacts harshly. Then Barry 1 adds a comment about it. Barry makes an observation regarding Ravi's recent postings which was an accurate observation. For whatever reason, Ravi's posts since he has been in India have been mild, and likely perceived as more enjoyable by most people. Judy chooses to characterize it solely as a put down. Ann makes comments about Share's choices in life, that I found condescending, but Ann feels it's all just light hearted banter. Steve feels that Judy reveals next to nothing about herself, but Judy feels she is very forthcoming about her life. In other words, just another day at FFL. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Steve...pleasemisses nuance in a remarkable way is a bit more grounded an assessment, IMHO. From: seventhray27 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: snip Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology. All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime. That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and grounded. Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues. Last I checked, that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit from if it were made a greater priority. That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark. There is no desperation there. Just a desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their environment. (both near and far) negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). I think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some examples, especially of the grounded part. Share? You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite balanced. As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor. Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve. if you are referring to my comment about Matthew (whatever his last name is), what is it that you find at odds with my comment? Do you feel he should be censored? It seems to me that all I said, was that the man should be able to speak his peace. Is that offensive?
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know...
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve, About PTSD
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: After much thought, I think I would still recommend something other than TM for PTSD relief. As would I, having done a bit of research on PTSD in the past year. The condition or syndrome known as post-traumatic stress disorder revolves around an inability to get over experiences and impressions from the past, and live in the present, as if these impressions were no longer a ruling factor. Nothing I have seen in my over-46-year-experience with TM suggests to me that it enables people to do this. To the contrary, I find that most long-term TMers are more locked into and ruled by impressions from the past than normal, everyday, non-meditators. Recent research has shown that there is a one-to-one link between people displaying neurotic behavior and their risk of developing PTSD. Neurotic behavior is defined as a type of personality behavior in which people experience high degrees of anxiety in response to everyday events, and thus tend to overreact to those ordinary events. That seems to me to be almost a definition of the long-term cultic TMer, at least in my experience. How is *cultivating* this behavioral pattern supposed to help those already victimized by it? I personally suspect that PTSD can be best treated by something that enables its sufferers to be as present in each present moment as possible, with as few trigger points reminding them of the past as possible. If TM worked as it was described in its marketing brochures, it would help to do this. But all one has to do to tell whether the marketing brochures were telling the truth or not is to watch what long-term TMers tend to *focus* on. Is it the present, or the past? I rest my case.
[FairfieldLife] Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 The moment you know you know you know. Haunting, enigmatic, simple and beautiful his pensive face projected on to a puppet in Bowies new recording, Where Are We Now?, on his 66th birthday, some may call it with a mesmerizing, enchanting, elegiac tune.His voice sounds older and more world-weary but not frightened to put something new out and he appears to be almost biting back tears as he looks back on his life in Berlin. Didn't he who turned down a knighthood his best work in/about Berlin bringing it now all back, though not in a hackneyed way? His Berlin in a time warp. Berlin as it was then, as it would be now, as if all these weird intervening years had never happened. Does he coming to grips with his own mortality, trying to make a sober assessment of his time on earth and the value of life itself as he approaches an farewell-exit? A shallow fool Major Tom age bracket continue a clueless life in a fog trying to hang on to his youth doing Ziggy Stardust redux..? Is David Bowie back - but where has he been in the rain- a one, brilliant class act that cannot be followed even by himself? Finger are crossed -just in case [http://autoimg.clipfish.de/autoimg/USRV3131/512x288/david-bowie-whe\ re-are-we-now.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: I've been running around a lot today. Obviously we have constant miscommunication issues here. snip Judy chooses to characterize it solely as a put down. It's hard to communicate with people who have trouble reading, or at least remembering what they read. I did not characterize Barry's post to Ravi as a putdown. Go back and read what I wrote again. snip Steve feels that Judy reveals next to nothing about herself, but Judy feels she is very forthcoming about her life. Never said that either. I said I'd revealed as much as most and more than some.
[FairfieldLife] Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 The moment you know you know you know. Haunting, enigmatic, simple and beautiful his pensive face projected on to a puppet in Bowies new recording, Where Are We Now?, on his 66th birthday, some may call it with a mesmerizing, enchanting, elegiac tune. His voice sounds older and more world-weary but not frightened to put something new out and he appears to be almost biting back tears as he looks back on his life in Berlin. Didn't he who turned down a knighthood his best work in/about Berlin bringing it now all back, though not in a hackneyed way? His Berlin in a time warp. Berlin as it was then, as it would be now, as if all these weird intervening years had never happened. Does he try to come to grips with his own mortality, trying to make a sober assessment of his time on earth and the value of life itself as he approaches an farewell-exit? Is he a shallow fool Major Tom age bracket who continues a clueless life in a fog trying to hang on to his youth doing Ziggy Stardust redux..? Is David Bowie back - but where has he been in the rain'- a one, brilliant class act that cannot be followed even by himself? Finger are crossed -just in case [http://autoimg.clipfish.de/autoimg/USRV3131/512x288/david-bowie-whe\ re-are-we-now.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo He's actually participated on FFL. To find his posts, do a search on posts by 'oneradiantbeing'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie
I liked this a lot. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 The moment you know you know you know. Haunting, enigmatic, simple and beautiful his pensive face projected on to a puppet in Bowies new recording, Where Are We Now?, on his 66th birthday, some may call it with a mesmerizing, enchanting, elegiac tune. His voice sounds older and more world-weary but not frightened to put something new out and he appears to be almost biting back tears as he looks back on his life in Berlin. Didn't he who turned down a knighthood his best work in/about Berlin bringing it now all back, though not in a hackneyed way? His Berlin in a time warp. Berlin as it was then, as it would be now, as if all these weird intervening years had never happened. Does he try to come to grips with his own mortality, trying to make a sober assessment of his time on earth and the value of life itself as he approaches an farewell-exit? Is he a shallow fool Major Tom age bracket who continues a clueless life in a fog trying to hang on to his youth doing Ziggy Stardust redux..? Is David Bowie back - but where has he been in the rain'- a one, brilliant class act that cannot be followed even by himself? Finger are crossed -just in case [http://autoimg.clipfish.de/autoimg/USRV3131/512x288/david-bowie-whe\ re-are-we-now.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve, About PTSD
Hey Michael, Thanks for your very thorough reply. I commend you for your efforts to come up with treatments for the PTSD, and I hope that you succeed in getting your ideas implemented. In my opinion, that is where I would focus my attention. I can't say that you come across as any kind of authority of what the efficacy of TM would be in this situation, but I would assume that whatever benefits or detriments that would result from the practice of TM for PTSD would be become apparant and based on that, the program would be continued,or expanded or curtailed or discontinued. Why not the results, or non results speak for themselves? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Bottom line, TM simply is not the best meditation for these folks with PTSD.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
Yep, that's a good one. Ha ha ha - you look pretty funny. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Just thinking of you Ravi. Yes, Alex's post was very perfect. Cyber drama is not important and family drama often warrants attention - in my family at least. Love you, thinking of you, send pictures at your discretion and on your timeline. Take good care. Love, Em. Thank you dear Em - here's a picture just for you :-). My elder sis offered to massage coconut oil on my head and I got very excited and gladly obliged. http://flic.kr/p/dKUvwa From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
You got everyone smiling with you and the sisses on this one Ravi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: ** Just thinking of you Ravi. Yes, Alex's post was very perfect. Cyber drama is not important and family drama often warrants attention - in my family at least. Love you, thinking of you, send pictures at your discretion and on your timeline. Take good care. Love, Em. Thank you dear Em - here's a picture just for you :-). My elder sis offered to massage coconut oil on my head and I got very excited and gladly obliged. http://flic.kr/p/dKUvwa -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2013 11:35 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Nice story! Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: I could have been projecting my pain on how out of touch he was. I find people that are completely out of touch extremely painful to observe. Well put, me too. I remember when Nixon resigned, my two roommates were anxious to watch the speech. We hadn't had dinner yet, and we decided to order in Chinese food. I couldn't bear to see him humiliating himself, much as I loathed him, so I volunteered to go pick up the food, figuring the speech would be almost over by the time I got back. As I walked into the restaurant, I was horrified to find that they had set up a TV set for their dinner customers to watch. It was a tiny place, so I couldn't avoid seeing most of the speech as I waited for the order. It was agonizing, just as I had feared.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube to Barry, Steve, Alex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo Steve, I believe that our Rick Archer has interviewed this guy over at batgap.com. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Your perspective and insights are always interesting to me regardless of whether I ask for them or not. I don't always agree but I enjoy reading them. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know... This Matthew Reifslager guy is fascinating to me in a weird kind of way (maybe like watching a train wreck) because I can't believe that anyone would fall for his shtick. I wonder if it's a whole 'nother ballgame being in his presence? Anyway, upon further googling, I came across the name of Jennine Fellmer who seems to be Director of Expansion for The Wholeness Enterprise. I remember Jennine as one of the die-hards of the TMO at MUM and now her name no longer appears in the MUM directory. Alex (or anyone else in Fairfield), did she defect to Matthew's group?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve, About PTSD
On 01/12/2013 01:30 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: After much thought, I think I would still recommend something other than TM for PTSD relief. As would I, having done a bit of research on PTSD in the past year. The condition or syndrome known as post-traumatic stress disorder revolves around an inability to get over experiences and impressions from the past, and live in the present, as if these impressions were no longer a ruling factor. Nothing I have seen in my over-46-year-experience with TM suggests to me that it enables people to do this. To the contrary, I find that most long-term TMers are more locked into and ruled by impressions from the past than normal, everyday, non-meditators. Recent research has shown that there is a one-to-one link between people displaying neurotic behavior and their risk of developing PTSD. Neurotic behavior is defined as a type of personality behavior in which people experience high degrees of anxiety in response to everyday events, and thus tend to overreact to those ordinary events. That seems to me to be almost a definition of the long-term cultic TMer, at least in my experience. How is *cultivating* this behavioral pattern supposed to help those already victimized by it? I personally suspect that PTSD can be best treated by something that enables its sufferers to be as present in each present moment as possible, with as few trigger points reminding them of the past as possible. If TM worked as it was described in its marketing brochures, it would help to do this. But all one has to do to tell whether the marketing brochures were telling the truth or not is to watch what long-term TMers tend to *focus* on. Is it the present, or the past? I rest my case. We all get impressions from stressful situations. War and battle is particularly stressful. Back in the 1950s people called it shell shock and I had teachers with it. In yoga (i.e. TM) we call these samskaras. They need to be burned out or unstressed. They shouldn't remain in the system or only as at a distant memory. Meditation should be good at doing this and it wouldn't be limited just to TM, of course. TM has no exclusivity over dissolving stress. The best way to deal with this would be to meditate as soon as possible after the stressful event. Neurotic behavior is recognized in ayurveda as vata so some treatments for that imbalance may be useful.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie
May I give you my sun and stars, my night, my day, My seasons, summer, winter, my sweet spring, My autumn song, the church in which I pray, My land and ocean, all that the earth can bring Isn't true love a durable fire, In the mind ever burning, Never sick, never dead, never cold, From itself never turning? [http://designyoutrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/surya-namaskar-2-b\ y-anton-jankovoy567_850.jpg] Rehearsing our dreams Before we dream them It has the mystifying smell Of strange flowers... Aren't we the oceans Aren't we the shores As we solicit the solitude of the moon? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: I liked this a lot. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 The moment you know you know you know. Haunting, enigmatic, simple and beautiful his pensive face projected on to a puppet in Bowies new recording, Where Are We Now?, on his 66th birthday, some may call it with a mesmerizing, enchanting, elegiac tune. His voice sounds older and more world-weary but not frightened to put something new out and he appears to be almost biting back tears as he looks back on his life in Berlin. Didn't he who turned down a knighthood his best work in/about Berlin bringing it now all back, though not in a hackneyed way? His Berlin in a time warp. Berlin as it was then, as it would be now, as if all these weird intervening years had never happened. Does he try to come to grips with his own mortality, trying to make a sober assessment of his time on earth and the value of life itself as he approaches an farewell-exit? Is he a shallow fool Major Tom age bracket who continues a clueless life in a fog trying to hang on to his youth doing Ziggy Stardust redux..? Is David Bowie back - but where has he been in the rain'- a one, brilliant class act that cannot be followed even by himself? Finger are crossed -just in case [http://autoimg.clipfish.de/autoimg/USRV3131/512x288/david-bowie-whe\ \ re-are-we-now.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Right, I think that was during the Bronte Baxter period. I do miss her. I enjoyed David's input during that time as well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo He's actually participated on FFL. To find his posts, do a search on posts by 'oneradiantbeing'
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube to Barry, Steve, Alex
Every so often I listen to one of his videos, or a portion of one. He sounds good, he sounds genuine. Personally I think it's neat that people hang out an enlightenment shingle. If you believe in the idea of enlightenment, as I do, then why not. I mean, I am past having any interest in following a teacher like that, but I think that many may find something useful there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Where do you think he fits in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo Steve, I believe that our Rick Archer has interviewed this guy over at batgap.com. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone? http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine. Your perspective and insights are always interesting to me regardless of whether I ask for them or not. I don't always agree but I enjoy reading them. Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act. What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed, is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO remarkably like the act they fell for and followed for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by the fact that those who piled onto him lack the discrimination to notice that most people in the world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the same act, after all. They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy, or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of saint or holy man. Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME, try going back and listening to this video again, but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on video, especially towards the end of his life when he was already heavily into his King Lear period. Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious minds want to know... This Matthew Reifslager guy is fascinating to me in a weird kind of way (maybe like watching a train wreck) because I can't believe that anyone would fall for his shtick. I wonder if it's a whole 'nother ballgame being in his presence? Anyway, upon further googling, I came across the name of Jennine Fellmer who seems to be Director of Expansion for The Wholeness Enterprise. I remember Jennine as one of the die-hards of the TMO at MUM and now her name no longer appears in the MUM directory. Alex (or anyone else in Fairfield), did she defect to Matthew's group?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie
Is not music one of the most extraordinarily beautiful aspects of being human? The part that touched me most deeply: As long as there's sun, as long as there's sun As long as there's rain, as long as there's rain As long as there's fire, as long as there's fire As long as there's me As long as there's you And then the end of lyrics... Thank you DB and md too for md on a cloudy Jan 12 Happy Birthday Maharishi If you give me your all I will give you my nothing and universes will spring up between these two universes and wild flowers and dump trucks and paper bags and hippopotimie and something we might never imagine in the long lapse of time the long laspse of time turned inside out may we find the long lapse of love as long as there's me as long as there's you I sit on the lap of love I fall through I am caught over and over again or maybe I am the catcher maybe both as long as there's nothing there is everything From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie May I give you my sun and stars, my night, my day, My seasons, summer, winter, my sweet spring, My autumn song, the church in which I pray, My land and ocean, all that the earth can bring Isn't true love a durable fire, In the mind ever burning, Never sick, never dead, never cold, From itself never turning? Rehearsing our dreams Before we dream them It has the mystifying smell Of strange flowers... Aren't we the oceans Aren't we the shores As we solicit the solitude of the moon? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: I liked this a lot. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 The moment you know you know you know. Haunting, enigmatic, simple and beautiful his pensive face projected on to a puppet in Bowies new recording, Where Are We Now?, on his 66th birthday, some may call it with a mesmerizing, enchanting, elegiac tune. His voice sounds older and more world-weary but not frightened to put something new out and he appears to be almost biting back tears as he looks back on his life in Berlin. Didn't he who turned down a knighthood his best work in/about Berlin bringing it now all back, though not in a hackneyed way? His Berlin in a time warp. Berlin as it was then, as it would be now, as if all these weird intervening years had never happened. Does he try to come to grips with his own mortality, trying to make a sober assessment of his time on earth and the value of life itself as he approaches an farewell-exit? Is he a shallow fool Major Tom age bracket who continues a clueless life in a fog trying to hang on to his youth doing Ziggy Stardust redux..? Is David Bowie back - but where has he been in the rain'- a one, brilliant class act that cannot be followed even by himself? Finger are crossed -just in case [http://autoimg.clipfish.de/autoimg/USRV3131/512x288/david-bowie-whe\ re-are-we-now.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie
[;)] it's already 13th but p-tt do not make my birthday public [:D] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Is not music one of the most extraordinarily beautiful aspects of being human? The part that touched me most deeply: As long as there's sun, as long as there's sun As long as there's rain, as long as there's rain As long as there's fire, as long as there's fire As long as there's me As long as there's you And then the end of lyrics... Thank you DB and md too for md on a cloudy Jan 12 Happy Birthday Maharishi If you give me your all I will give you my nothing and universes will spring up between these two universes and wild flowers and dump To the mind that is still the whole universe surrenders Snow in winter. If your mind isn't clouded by unnecessary things,This is the best season of your life. then Ten thousand flowers in spring, the moon in autumn then A cool breeze in summer, and then.. trucks and paper bags and hippopotimie and something we might never imagine in the long lapse of time the long laspse of time turned inside out may we find the long lapse of love as long as there's me as long as there's you I sit on the lap of love I fall through I am caught over and over again or maybe I am the catcher maybe both as long as there's nothing there is everything So you are too A man lost in time near KaDaWe- [:D] http://www.kadewe.de/en/ http://www.kadewe.de/en/ Is Bowie the shape-shifter beautiful but unexpected looking back from a visionary long obsessed with what's next? Or is he confronting the questions that lie beyond? And though the new album's title seems to promise more horizon-scanning, finally celebrating his past? http://virusfonts.com/news/2013/01/david-bowie-the-next-day-that-album-c\ over-design/ http://virusfonts.com/news/2013/01/david-bowie-the-next-day-that-album-\ cover-design/ [http://virusfonts.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bowie_next.jpg] From: merudanda To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are We Now?-just walking the deadBowie  May I give you my sun and stars, my night, my day, My seasons, summer, winter, my sweet spring, My autumn song, the church in which I pray, My land and ocean, all that the earth can bring Isn't true love a durable fire, In the mind ever burning, Never sick, never dead, never cold, From itself never turning? Rehearsing our dreams Before we dream them It has the mystifying smell Of strange flowers... Aren't we the oceans Aren't we the shores As we solicit the solitude of the moon? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: I liked this a lot. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtsV50_-p4 The moment you know you know you know. Haunting, enigmatic, simple and beautiful his pensive face projected on to a puppet in Bowies new recording, Where Are We Now?, on his 66th birthday, some may call it with a mesmerizing, enchanting, elegiac tune. His voice sounds older and more world-weary but not frightened to put something new out and he appears to be almost biting back tears as he looks back on his life in Berlin. Didn't he who turned down a knighthood his best work in/about Berlin bringing it now all back, though not in a hackneyed way? His Berlin in a time warp. Berlin as it was then, as it would be now, as if all these weird intervening years had never happened. Does he try to come to grips with his own mortality, trying to make a sober assessment of his time on earth and the value of life itself as he approaches an farewell-exit? Is he a shallow fool Major Tom age bracket who continues a clueless life in a fog trying to hang on to his youth doing Ziggy Stardust redux..? Is David Bowie back - but where has he been in the rain'- a one, brilliant class act that cannot be followed even by himself? Finger are crossed -just in case [http://autoimg.clipfish.de/autoimg/USRV3131/512x288/david-bowie-whe\ \ re-are-we-now.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I received a bottle of Don Julio 1942 anejo tequila for the holidays - It isn't as old as that, though produced using the same methods. I enjoy a salt rimmed classic margy any time, or a decent tequila over fresh lemonade, but this stuff, I must sip straight. And it definitely has an unusual effect as you say - more than simply the alcohol - the agave cactus too. No barbs or criticism in this post, Jim, just an agreement. Don Julio 1942 is a quite accept- able tequila, and I say this as a person who has lived in Santa Fe, where some bars had 140 varieties of tequila or mescal, many of them costing more than the Don Julio, and worth it. I'm writing out of envy. You simply can't get good sippin' tequila here in the Netherlands. The Dutch -- and truth be told most of Europe -- have never developed a taste for the stuff. Therefore there is no perceived market for it, and no importers willing to import it. Sigh. Tequila and mescal are like single-malt Scotches in that they age well, and benefit from the aging. The true aficionados can blind sip a good tequila and tell you what *village* it came from, much less which region. The best I ever tasted was a single-village mescal, made from wild -- as opposed to cultivated -- agave. It was like the difference between wild ginseng and cultivated ginseng -- night and day. It cost $300 a bottle, and people who tasted it were lining up to buy it. Go figure. Tequila tasting in Lapland, some results: 1. Sierra Milenario Extra Anejo 106 pistettä (Beverage Partners Finland) 2. Sierra Antiguo Anejo 105 p. (Beverage Partners Finland) 3. Los Tres Tonos Anejo 92 (Vinoble) 4. Olmeca Reposado 89 (Pernod Ricard Finland) 5. El Jimador Anejo 86 (Wennerco) 6. Patron Anejo (Interbrands) 7. Sauza Reposado Hornitos (Edrington) 8. Patron Silver (Interbrands) 9. Jose Cuervo Reposado (Hartwa-Trade) 10. Sierra Milenario Blanco (Beverage Partners Finland) 11. Sauza Silver (Edrington) 12. Corralejo Blanco (Servaali) 13. Sierra Reposado (Beverage Partners Finland) 14. Corralejo Anejo (Servaali) 15. San Jose Silver (Wennerco) 16. Patron Reposado (Interbrands) 17. Sauza Gold (Edrington) 18. Don Angel Blanco (HeinoJuomat) 19. Sierra Silver (Beverage Partners Finland) 20. Jose Cuervo Silver (Hartwa-Trade) http://virtuaalibaari.fi/2012/09/04/f-b-s-k-lapin-tequila-tasting-sierran-juhlaa/#
[FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon....
Current incomplete calculations put the hit zone just off of Santa Monica. Must be the wrath of the daimon ywvh at loosing his influence. Better tell the pope to cower before his altar and seek redress. I'll suggest Judy twitter him and tell him to get busy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: It's my guess that if that hunk of rock comes crashing down on Earth the Men's Dome will be right in its cross hairs - isn't comforting to know, Buck that you will be feeling Maharishi's Bliss going up your spine as you bounce across the Dome just as the asteroid slams into and flattens everything around you??? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon  It would be real nice to get the Dome numbers of people meditating up before this happens. **!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis â a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid â flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth â rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of
[FairfieldLife] Re: 400,000 galaxies zoomed through at 1,262,304,000,000,000 times speed of light.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: This is as profound as far as these experiences can go. Very effective. Two things: First: note the sheer vastness and that each snowflake in this dark winter scene has a hundred million planets. Second: LOOK AT THE SPACE INSTEAD OF THE STARS -- feel your outermost extensions of isness -- AND THEN BEYOND. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=YzaCPKVk8hs The 'camera' in this video is travelling at 1,262,304,000,000,000 times the speed of light. The animation shows less#65279; than 1% of the estimated 170 billion galaxies in the observable Universe. Each galaxy contains between 10 million and 100 trillion stars. No wonder 'saaMkhya' (the darshana behind paatañjala-yoga) means for instance 'pertaining to saMkhya' ( = number), tee hee... (yet another 'a' vs. 'aa' -pair, so to speak!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya
[FairfieldLife] Re: About PTSD
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: MJ, This is a substantial post. Kind of a jaw-dropper. Thanks, -Buck in the Dome Think about it Buck; to write 2 - two - sentences you just posted 34 -thirty-four - pages of nonsense/unstressing along with it. That's easily a new record for FFL !
[FairfieldLife] Dan Burks on Coping with War
http://dlf.tv/2010/ban-burks/
[FairfieldLife] Operation Wellness Tour
Who do you find more convincing; a neurotic redneck, a narccistic Buddhist living in The Netherlands or these veterans : Overcoming PTSD: WWII fighter pilot Jerry Yellin The Wound of PTSD: Veterans Who Have Found A Way To Cope http://dlf.tv/2011/oww-tour/ http://dlf.tv/2011/oww-tour/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube
Skyy - triple filtered, and triple distilled.:-) Another good local beverage; Korbel Brut - I really got into champagne when my wife and I met - discovered tequila shots with a champagne chaser. Tried about 40 different champagnes, domestic and French. We'd climb into the 1985 tan Jaguar XJ-6, series 3 (the one redesigned by Pinanfarina), sunroof open at night, Bolles in place, U2 or Tom Petty on the stereo, she in a Giorgio minidress, and I usually wore an Italian suit, maybe a set of cuffs on a concho belt just because. Had a favorite bar called the Phoenix - We'd dance until the place closed, sometimes to a live Aztec Mexican psychedelic band, smoke machine going. Was indescribably great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Speaking of which, I want to make some habenero (scotch bonnet) infused vodka at some point. Makes for a spicy bloody mary. Not much of a vodka expert, though - tend to stick with Skyy, 'cuz it is local, and very clean. Back in my drinking days, Skyy was my vodka of choice. I never could understand the hype about Stoli; I tried it once, and it was nasty-ass rotgut.
[FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL
Unabated mugging as usual. Just goes to show that vasana-s can't be tricked by braggadocio nor by lightly disguised aggression. So ... channeling a rakshasa again? Yep, them ol' sanskara-s just won't stop poppin' off. Must be the old carnivore instinct. You eatin' at McDonald's again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we were. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at least support the enjoyment of others. As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided to not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too. As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew. Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we were. You're not the least bit interested in dropping conflicts from the past year. Rather, you're intent on keeping them going. If you don't understand why I say that, show your post to your pastoral counselor. Maybe she will have the patience to explain it to you. I don't. Love and hugs indeed. Dig yourself, Share. Maybe Raunchy and I a little bit too. I hope so. But Ann and Emily have continued at just about every opportunity to snipe nastily at me. They continue to have a confrontational tone towards me, even on the most mundane of topics. Weird! Plus they ignore it when I do post a positive reply to them. You would think that Ann with her full life and Emily with her running out of money situation would have better things to do with their time and energy and attention than to nastily carry a grudge against me into the new year. Plus their grudges began with an upset between me and Robin! So IMO there's something decidedly wacky about their carrying this grudge into the new year. And I won't be a part of it. I will continue to reply to them such as I have been doing. But I will not reply to any posts that are nasty, condescending, confrontational, snide, etc. In other words, grudgy! Who does such exchanges benefit? NO ONE! OTOH thank you to everyone who's made FFL so enjoyable during the holidays and even more recently. You all have shown me that it's possible to have great discussions and good humor without being nasty. love and hugs Share
