[FairfieldLife] Re: Thinking about moving back to Fairfield
whynotnow7: Barry: Own your own stuff and I won't gently toss it back in your lap. You reacted to this fellow on everyone's behalf here, by calling him an asshole. That is inappropriate, imo. If you want to be a jerk, be a jerk on your own, but stop implying any of us think similarly. Thanks in advance. According to Uncle Barry: The discussions have to be based on the assumption that we are discussing matters of *opinion*. No one is right, no one is wrong. References to past statements by either poster are limited to the current thread. Ad hominens and insults are similarly verboten. Many of the rules above are in place and work well on other spiritual forums that I participate in, and seem to accomplish the seemingly impossible -- creating a high-vibe environment in which to discuss spiritual topics without flaming. From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: An Orwellian redefinition of leaving Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-11-22 02:53:19 PST
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye-Bye Bin Laden?
Let us talk about the first premise. Don't you agree that you were born through your mother who conceived you with your father? As such, you as a physical being had a CAUSE. Correct? If yes, then you would agree with the first premise. curtisdeltablues: Fallacy of inductive reasoning. Logicians posit an 'uncaused cause' in order to avoid regress ad infinitum. You cannot move back in an explanation of a phenomenon or concept without end without employing circular logic. Anomalous monism is a philosophical thesis about the mind-body relationship. It was first proposed by Donald Davidson in his 1970 paper Mental events. The theory is twofold and states that mental events are identical with physical events, and that the mental is anomalous, i.e. under their mental descriptions these mental events are not regulated by strict physical laws... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalous_monism
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake photo of Osama's death
Bhairitu: What I'm seeing on FFL is the same stupid group think behavior I saw in my local community the weekend after 9-11. Ya all got your 'merican flags and wavin' them? I remember they were selling American flags right outside the Safeway and teenage boys struttin' around like macho men (the Army wasn't too excited about that)... So, you're thinking that 9/11 was an inside job, and Obama was born in Kenya, and that Osama bin Laden is still alive, but we are in the FFL 'stupid group' because we accept evidence from President Obama and Secretary Clinton that bin Laden is dead? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's Cosmic Consciousness
Vaj: What I'm saying is that while there exists extraordinary evidence of extraordinary states of consciousness in the scientific record (of various yogis, etc.), currently no such extraordinary record exists for any TMers... Can you cite a double-blind, peer-reviewed, scientific study that proves that there is a physiological correlation to an extraordinary state of consciousness, other than sleep, dreaming, and the waking state? Thanks. So all ye braggarts; wire up or fess up... Please post the link to the study here:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake photo of Osama's death
So, you're thinking that 9/11 was an inside job, and Obama was born in Kenya, and that Osama bin Laden is still alive, but we are in the FFL 'stupid group' because we accept evidence from President Obama and Secretary Clinton that bin Laden is dead? Bhairitu: I never said Obama was born in Kenya... Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. So, how can a U.S. citizen have two Social Security numbers? That's probably illegal, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's Cosmic Consciousness
Vaj: What I'm saying is that while there exists extraordinary evidence of extraordinary states of consciousness in the scientific record (of various yogis, etc.), currently no such extraordinary record exists for any TMers... Can you cite a double-blind, peer-reviewed, scientific study that proves that there is a physiological correlation to an extraordinary state of consciousness, other than sleep, dreaming, and the waking state? Thanks. So all ye braggarts; wire up or fess up... Please post the link to the study here: Out of the hundreds of studies done on meditation, since Maurice Bucke wrote his famous book, there ought to be at least one that was a peer-reviewed, double-blind study proving a physiological correlate to a fourth state of consciousness. Where is Lawson when we need him because Vaj is apparently no help, plus Vaj is obviously biased. Researchers have documented immediate benefits in terms of lowered blood pressure, decreased heart and respiratory rates, increased blood flow, and other measurable signs of the relaxation response... Read more: Andrew Weil Q A Library: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA326653 Charles Tart Consciousness Library: http://www.paradigm-sys.com/ 'Cosmic Consciousness' A Study in the Evolution of the Human Mind By Richard Maurice Bucke http://tinyurl.com/5saml22
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake photo of Osama's death
Bhairitu: Unlike the weekend after 9-11 I barely heard *any* locals talking about the Bin Laden thing yesterday or today. We remain skeptical around here and this is a liberal community... Get a grip - your town probably has less than 2,000 liberal hippie residents in it. What would they know about covert operations in Pakistan after watching an ABC News OTA broadcast with Diane Sawyer?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake photo of Osama's death
I never said Obama was born in Kenya... Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement... Bhairitu: Where you come from would not be missed if it disappeared tomorrow. Don't you just hate those Latinos. You probably support the Caste System in India, right? So, it is all about birth-circumstances, and you do believe it's important where the U.S. President was born, in Kenya or not. But, why is it so important to you where a person happens to be born?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj's Cosmic Consciousness
It seems that both camps actively work at denying each the other's experience. Like a spiritual warfare is going on over the hearts and minds of the meditation market. turquoiseb: I can honestly state that I have never encountered an organization that claims that its technique of meditation is best OTHER THAN THE TMO... You mean other than the 'Royal' Yoga of Patanjali's camp. You're no Raja! LoL! The more you give, the more people we can help, Lenz says piously on a tape. It's that simple. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired The most I've ever heard any other organization say is that some of its techniques are possibly better for people of a certain disposition, whereas other techniques they teach may be better for those of a different disposition. The question of best does not come up, almost by definition, because all of these organizations teach multiple techniques. There was never any impetus for them to declare one of them best, as there was for the TMO, for the simple reason that it had nothing else to sell. Most of the organizations I've dealt with that teach meditation would be affronted even by the notion that there is such a thing as the meditation marketplace. That a phrase that only a TMer or someone from some other group *trying to make money by teaching meditation* would think up. The organi- zations I'm talking about all teach for free, so such a low-vibe concern as marketing what they teach or selling it in a marketplace would never even occur to them. As for the idea of making meditation mandatory in schools, that is also something that would never occur to these other organizations. If someone brought the idea up, they would first laugh, think- ing that you were joking, and then be affronted, because the idea of imposing meditation on anyone or mandating its practice would be anathema to them. They wouldn't understand how anyone could even think such a low-vibe idea up. It takes a Maharishi, or one of his followers, to think of something like that. But that's probably because they think in terms of a meditation marketplace. To them it doesn't matter whether individuals pay for it or a school system pays for it, just so long as they get paid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake photo of Osama's death
Osama Bin Laden is dead prove it Vaj: Where's his death certificate!? I bet he doesn't have one! How much would you be willing to wager?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake photo of Osama's death
I have to admit that there's a hint of tinfoil hat inside me that looks at how quickly the body was dumped out at sea and wonders if they did, in fact, kill OBL. turquoiseb: Some articles have pointed out a couple of valid reasons for the burial at sea... Are there any seas up by Kashmir?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye-Bye Bin Laden?
Bhairitu: Supposedly Bin Laden has been dead since 2002 but the military didn't have any body. Maybe they were growing one in a lab somewhere... So, you're still clinging to the birther and truther conspiracy theories. LoL! Maybe Obama was born out of wedlock and maybe his father was already married to someone else besides Anne at the time, over in Indonesia or in Kenya. Maybe the 9/11 attack was an inside job. Maybe what hit the Pentagon was a missile fired by GWB from a TAG plane. If so, then it would be simple for a small group of conspirators to grow a bin Laden body in a lab. Maybe monkeys can fly out of your butt.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye-Bye Bin Laden?
If so, then it would be simple for a small group of conspirators to grow a bin Laden body in a lab. Maybe monkeys can fly out of your butt. Bhairitu: So you're a useful idiot? So, you're thinking the U.S. military grew a bin Laden body inside a secret lab, because they didn't have a dead bin Laden body after they killed him, but I'm the useful idiot. LoL! Supposedly Bin Laden has been dead since 2002 but the military didn't have any body. Maybe they were growing one in a lab somewhere...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake photo of Osama's death
It was like they were trying to program the minds of the public or had some kind of subject stuttering disorder... authfriend: But isn't it amazing how *all* the TV stations and *all* the newspapers and *all* the online news sites are saying the same things? The government has them all completely under its control, every last one... belly laugh Bhairitu, sometimes you make the birthers look good. You don't get any better 'birther' and 'truther' theories than the two Barry's post here! LoL! 'The Trillion-Dollar Conspiracy' How the New World Order, Man-Made Diseases, and Zombie Banks Are Destroying America By Jim Marrs William Morrow,2010 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/63a533s
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye-Bye Bin Laden?
turquoiseb: And even though he was a near-psychotic religious fanatic madman, it's worth remembering that the person who made the US economy what it is today was just killed... Translation: Barry is really scared his income might run out and he might have to get a job to pay his share of the rent! So, blame the U.S. Government - but don't ever admit that you suck at what you do for a living! LoL! 'The Trillion-Dollar Conspiracy' How the New World Order, Man-Made Diseases, and Zombie Banks Are Destroying America By Jim Marrs William Morrow, 2010 'Rule by Secrecy' The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids By Jim Marrs Harper, 2001
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dawn of SidhaMan:Superman Renounce American Citizenship
turquoiseb: I simply can't wait for the first TB TMer here to repeat the bullshit that the TMO never claimed that people would be able to fly after taking the TM-Siddhis course... The only people to make any claims on FFL about flying was Barry Wright, who claimed he once saw Rama float up into the air in front of a crowd of people. Barry IS the TMO. And, he is a 'TB', apparently.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
Vaj: Actually...GOD just smoteth a huge swath of the Bible Belt. It was actually a quantum fluctuation from Christian fundie stress being released... Some people will turn any tragedy, even the weather, into a political talking point, I guess. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
Actually...GOD just smoteth a huge swath of the Bible Belt. It was actually a quantum fluctuation from Christian fundie stress being released... do.rflex: Birther confronts Obama... Don't you just love the Obama apologists going absolutely POSTAL screaming how much they don't care about Obama's birth certificate!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The thing about Blissnazis is that they don't know what they are
So, do you have any new points to post? If so, you forgot to post them. How many times have we read this from you - twenty times this year? Why not post something new for a change? Fer chrissakes, get off this 'blisninny' rap! You are boring, Turq. turquoiseb: I've gotten used to the Blissnazis here at FFL, those who are so stuck in one point of view that they feel the need to try to impose it on others, and get them to admit that they are wrong and only the Blissnazi is right. My approach to dealing with such people is to try to ignore their silly asses, treat them as the perpetual adolescents they are, and focus on more fun conversations. Recently I got to see this same dynamic on another forum. A former Rama student started a private chat group on Facebook to discuss him and what it was like to study with him, and because no other such forums exist any more, it attracted quite a few students eager to reconnect and pass some pleasant moments engaging in This is what I've been up to since we last met...how about you? conversations. No sooner did these kinds of conversations start than the Blissnazi in question started barging in and demonizing anyone who said anything other than the Rama Party Line. She went out of her way to portray them as stupid, or having not had the exalted experiences with Rama that she did, or not understanding the Truth about him, or being just plain malevolent and trying to spoil things for those who know the 'Truth.' Suffice it to say I bailed after a few days. To their credit, so have most of the other former students who first signed on to the forum. They are, for the most part, people who are comfortable with their *own* interpretations of the time they spent with the guy, and perceive anyone trying to tell them that these impressions are wrong as the elitist insult it is. My suspicion is that within a few weeks the forum will be down from a high of 120+ members to less than a dozen, the ones who agree with the Blissnazi's POV being the only ones left. And the thing is, the Blissnazi believes that all of these people bailing after she insults them and tells them they are wrong and only she is right are the ones who have a problem. She's caught in that narcissistic dream in which any opinion that differs from hers has to be perceived as an invitation to a duel. And this duel has to be WON. Most of the people she ran her Blissnazi number on got it immediately, and bailed. With those who didn't, she started deleting their posts if they didn't toe the Party Line, and if it happened more than once she deleted them from the forum. She sees nothing wrong with this. Doesn't it remind you of a few here on Fairfield Life? I happen to know that the Rama Blissninny is fairly young, and has spent her entire life in cults of one kind or another. She is *used* to being told what to think, and when Rama killed himself, she stepped into that role her- self. Or tried to. To give you an example of the kind of rigid thinking we are talking about, one of the things she went ballistic about was someone -- not me -- using the phrase when Rama killed himself in a post. She suggested -- fairly strongly, since she had by then estab- lished a track record of tossing out anyone who disagreed with her -- that all future references to his death be what they really were, his Mahasamadhi. Life is just too short to deal with this kind of head-in-the-sand idiocy, so I bailed, and so did many others. WHY do so-called spiritual seekers act this way? What is IN IT FOR THEM that they persist in such adolescent behavior? From my point of view the inability to deal with other points of vew is not faith or honoring the teacher, it's the ultimate sign of insecurity. The kinds of posters I like the most on FFL are the ones who merely present their opinions, and graciously allow others to have their own opinions. Curtis is like this, and Joe and, I hope, myself. I really don't feel any need to argue about something as unimportant as an OPINION, and I have a hard time understanding the mind of anyone who does. I *certainly* don't feel any need to play their game and let them suck me into some elongated argument about whose OPINION is more right or wrong. That's the stuff of birtherism. Here on FFL we even have our own version of it. Whenever a former TM teacher who has moved on to POVs other than Maharishi's says something that the Blissnazis don't like, the cry goes up, He never really learned TM, or its variant, He never learned TM 'correctly,' the way *I* did. This kind of behavior -- trying to demonize or perform character assassination on someone just because their opinion differs from your own -- is an EMBARRASSMENT to the whole notion of spiritual development. It's sad enough when one sees it in a young person who has never known any other environment than a dogmatic cult. To see it in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mt. Athos featured on 60 Minutes
curtisdeltablues: In retrospect some of my replies to Doug might fall into the trollish category. Yep! I just think he was full of it and that his premises about reality are bogus. - Curtis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/274662
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
do.rflex: No, Obama's grandmother didn't say he was born in Kenya So, when did Obama get the name 'Hussien' as a middle name, at birth, or from a relative in Hawaii? LoL! Don't got postal, John, just answer the question.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
This has little to do with where President Obama was born...And much to do with unadulterated racism... Plain and simple. Rick Archer: It's ALWAYS been about having a black man as President, So, for you it is a race question, not a birth question? The birth certificate says Obama is an 'African'. What race is that? LoL! At a magnification level of 400%, there is a distinct area of pure white with no pattern directly adjacent to, and surrounding each and every typed character (halos). This same no-pattern area of pure white is adjacent to, and surrounds all of the script handwriting on the document (more halos). The security background pattern would be continuous and merge with the edge lines of the typed characters and the handwritten lines. The typed characters and the handwriting were layered in on the background of a different document. The metadata for the file states it was created with MAC OSX 10.6.7. They failed to merge and blend the document security pattern into the layered typed characters and handwriting when they were placed upon the background layer. Mechanical typewriters of that era have a distinct vertical alignment issue which causes capital letters to be aligned above the level of the small letters, and if the same letter is struck consecutively as a capital and then a small letter, the small letter then shows a tendency to be placed slightly above the level of the other small letters subsequently typed after the two same letters. There are gross inconsistencies with certain letters being out of vertical alignment at random places in several words, i.e. a in African, the second o in Honolulu, Hawaii. Not being a handwriting expert, the similarity in the handwritten dates of 8-7-61 and 8-8-61 are far too uncanny to be a coincidence. The dashes in both dates slant upward to the right, and the 61 looks identical in both dates. Both dates slant identically to the right at almost an identical angle. These two dates were supposedly written by two completely different hands, as the signatures show, on different days. If this is a 50-year old document, where is: natural discoloration of the paper; the natural migration of the handwriting ink; wear of the background security pattern from handling; and usual edge wear on a fifty-year old paper document? http://tinyurl.com/3q7pclc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mt. Athos featured on 60 Minutes
Curtis: That phrase refers to my opinion of Shankara. But, the thread was about Patanjali. You said Patanjali was 'full of it' and his premises are 'bogus'. Why would you be telling Buck that Patanjali was bogus if you wanted to dialog with Buck about Yoga? It doesn't make any sense. Fraqnkly, I expected more from a MUM philosophy major. I mean what, exactly, are Patanjali's premises? You seemed confused that Sankhya was the oldest Indian system and you didn't seem to be able to cite any specifics about Patanjali. Buck: O what a bunch of evil sophistry. This thread reads as careful veiled spiritual hate. The beating of poor old Patanjali by mob. turquoiseb: One guy, having fun with an imaginary conversation with a possibly imaginary guy, is a *mob*? And you dare to use the word sophistry? :-) Buck: Yep, inciting and intending to be incendiary. Oh sure it is in mob and violent. You come on here demagogically saying something is no good because you don't like it. Curtis joins in. Joe and SevenRay pile on and we got a regular FFL book and Patanjali-in-effigy strawman burning by mob. curtis: I just think he was full of it and that his premises about reality are bogus... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/274662
[FairfieldLife] Re: Birthers *still* don't believe Obama
do.rflex: Birthers *still* don't believe Obama Are there any 'birthers' on this forum? Don't go postal, John, it's over. Stop trying to sidetrack everyone with your nonsense-prattle and silly political cartoons. Face it: your political leaders are stupid, really stupid people. Obama could have released his birth certificate years ago. It was stupid, really stupid of Obama to pull this prank. But, that is beside the point - Obama cannot win the war; he cannot bring the economy back; he cannot get the U.S. out of debt; and he cannot create jobs. Obama - you're fired! 'Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people' Los Angeles Times April 29, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3uywubv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
authfriend: No, they aren't (as I just said). THIS ONE IS FROM MARKET-TICKER: 'You've GOT To Be Kidding Me' http://market-ticker.org/post=185094 THIS ONE IS FROM THE CORNER: 'PDF Layers in Obama's Birth Certificate' http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding But, you already knew that! I've scanned a lot of images. What you scan is what you see. What I haven't seen when I've scanned something is where they show letters cut off such as what looks like a 5 on the left hand side where it bends down. Also, the dashed green lines on the background go straight across, and the black lines of the form curve down. It they scanned the black lines only, then why transpose onto green lined paper, why not just show the scanned document on whatever was the original paper as I always do when I scan a document. This doesn't pass the smell test. Either this is a forgery on green paper, or they are hiding something on that left side that was cropped off. Why can't we just get a scanned copy of the original birth certificate, showing every notation on margins, every smudge, everything? Frankly, until today I was thinking this birther thing was much ado about nothing, but after seeing this document I now have many suspicions about Obama's birth... http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp Interesting that what Willytex quotes isn't from either of the Web pages he gives URLs for... The quotes are from: 'You've GOT To Be Kidding Me!' http://market-ticker.org/post=185094 and 'The Corner' http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp That this document has been cropped and altered by an idiot who thought he knew how to scan a birth certificate using Adobe Acrobat? At the least this was a scanned document produced by a moron who thought he knew PhotoShop. You've GOT To Be Kidding Me! http://market-ticker.org/post=185094 I've scanned a lot of images. What you scan is what you see. What I haven't seen when I've scanned something is where they show letters cut off such as what looks like a 5 on the left hand side where it bends down. Also, the dashed green lines on the background go straight across, and the black lines of the form curve down. It they scanned the black lines only, then why transpose onto green lined paper, why not just show the scanned document on whatever was the original paper as I always do when I scan a document. This doesn't pass the smell test. Either this is a forgery on green paper, or they are hiding something on that left side that was cropped off. Why can't we just get a scanned copy of the original birth certificate, showing every notation on margins, every smudge, everything? Frankly, until today I was thinking this birther thing was much ado about nothing, but after seeing this document I now have many suspicions about Obama's birth... http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
Interesting that what Willytex quotes isn't from either of the Web pages he gives URLs for. Joe: Judy, you have to understand that what WillyTex sees when looking at the birth certificate is different from what you and I see: You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post your own comments, Joe! The point is, why didn't Obama just scan the birth certificate as a PDF and let us see it without the cropping, without the OCR, without the layers and without the dropped-in green background? All we know now is that Obama can't even operate a simple flat-bed scanner using Adobe Acrobat. The second one, in fact, is from National Review Online, a right-wing publication; it's a post that *debunks* the notion that the certificate is a forgery. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Vaj: Who wants to guess what the replacing conspiracy theory will be? That this document has been cropped and altered by an idiot who thought he knew how to scan a birth certificate using Adobe Acrobat? At the least this was a scanned document produced by a moron who thought he knew PhotoShop. You've GOT To Be Kidding Me! http://market-ticker.org/post=185094 I've scanned a lot of images. What you scan is what you see. What I haven't seen when I've scanned something is where they show letters cut off such as what looks like a 5 on the left hand side where it bends down. Also, the dashed green lines on the background go straight across, and the black lines of the form curve down. It they scanned the black lines only, then why transpose onto green lined paper, why not just show the scanned document on whatever was the original paper as I always do when I scan a document. This doesn't pass the smell test. Either this is a forgery on green paper, or they are hiding something on that left side that was cropped off. Why can't we just get a scanned copy of the original birth certificate, showing every notation on margins, every smudge, everything? Frankly, until today I was thinking this birther thing was much ado about nothing, but after seeing this document I now have many suspicions about Obama's birth... http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dems plans wedding between GOP and Big Oil
Bhairitu: The Democrats are finally getting that mocking the GOP is the way to go! So, why is your president conducting a war in three countries, if it's not to get more oil for you to use in your car? Why not just stop using foreign oil and drill and refine your own oil in California? http://www.roilwedding.com/ Story here: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/28/dems-invite-americans-to-wedding-between-gop-and-big-oil/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
Vaj: Who wants to guess what the replacing conspiracy theory will be? That this document has been cropped and altered by an idiot who thought he knew how to scan a birth certificate using Adobe Acrobat? At the least this was a scanned document produced by a moron who thought he knew PhotoShop. You've GOT To Be Kidding Me! http://market-ticker.org/post=185094 I've scanned a lot of images. What you scan is what you see. What I haven't seen when I've scanned something is where they show letters cut off such as what looks like a 5 on the left hand side where it bends down. Also, the dashed green lines on the background go straight across, and the black lines of the form curve down. It they scanned the black lines only, then why transpose onto green lined paper, why not just show the scanned document on whatever was the original paper as I always do when I scan a document. This doesn't pass the smell test. Either this is a forgery on green paper, or they are hiding something on that left side that was cropped off. Why can't we just get a scanned copy of the original birth certificate, showing every notation on margins, every smudge, everything? Frankly, until today I was thinking this birther thing was much ado about nothing, but after seeing this document I now have many suspicions about Obama's birth... http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
Bhairitu: Sometime I think Florida needs to be broken off and shipped along with Texas to Antarctica. Don't you just hate those Hispanics! The House budget blueprint for the next fiscal year would keep the current Medicare program in place for people now 55 and older. But those younger than 55 would be shifted to a new system in which they would buy private health insurance through an exchange, with the government subsidizing the premiums... 'Democrats Focus on Medicare' http://tinyurl.com/3f2tjeo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama birth certificate issued by White House
authfriend: Interesting that what Willytex quotes isn't from either of the Web pages he gives URLs for... The quotes are from: 'You've GOT To Be Kidding Me!' http://market-ticker.org/post=185094 and 'The Corner' http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp That this document has been cropped and altered by an idiot who thought he knew how to scan a birth certificate using Adobe Acrobat? At the least this was a scanned document produced by a moron who thought he knew PhotoShop. You've GOT To Be Kidding Me! http://market-ticker.org/post=185094 I've scanned a lot of images. What you scan is what you see. What I haven't seen when I've scanned something is where they show letters cut off such as what looks like a 5 on the left hand side where it bends down. Also, the dashed green lines on the background go straight across, and the black lines of the form curve down. It they scanned the black lines only, then why transpose onto green lined paper, why not just show the scanned document on whatever was the original paper as I always do when I scan a document. This doesn't pass the smell test. Either this is a forgery on green paper, or they are hiding something on that left side that was cropped off. Why can't we just get a scanned copy of the original birth certificate, showing every notation on margins, every smudge, everything? Frankly, until today I was thinking this birther thing was much ado about nothing, but after seeing this document I now have many suspicions about Obama's birth... http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba, R.I.P. April 24-th, 2011
Joe: I imagine his kumkum covered lingam was one of the first to go... You seem to have a special interest in other people's sex life, or lack thereof. PRURIENT INTEREST: A morbid, degrading and unhealthy interest in sex, as distinguished from a mere candid interest in sex. http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/p106.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: The world would be better if religion were considered a hobby
turquoiseb: I think the world would be a much better place if we got rid of all this seriousness crap that has built up around religion or one's choice of a spiritual path... Nihilism: 1. The rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless. 2. Extreme skepticism, according to which nothing in the world has a real existence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism
[FairfieldLife] Re: The world would be better if religion were considered a hobby
turquoiseb: And as for the second point, I hold that everything in the world is very much real... Materialism is a theory that physical matter is the only or fundamental reality... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism Nihilism: 1. The rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless. 2. Extreme skepticism, according to which nothing in the world has a real existence. Neither of which describes me or what I believe in the least. I do reject the absolute *validity* of any religious or moral principles, in the sense that all of them are merely made up by human beings and thus have nothing of the absolute about them, but I reject no traditional religious principles except *for myself*. I reserve the right to make up my own such principles, and then to abide by them to the best of my ability. Others are free do the same with any principles they choose. Just don't try to impose your principles on me unless they *also* happen to be the law of the land we live in. :-) And as for the second point, I hold that everything in the world is very much real, so that doesn't apply. So I hold to my statement in the Subject line. It was inspired by re-watching Ridley Scott's Kingdom Of Heaven last night. I came away from the experience thoroughly disgusted by the things done in the name of religion during the Crusades. And in that period, the actions of the Muslims were FAR more ethical than those of the so-called Christians. They were very much the wronged parties, and victims of religious aggression. None of this would have happened if religious beliefs had just been accorded the statues they deserve, which is that of a hobby. Many of the conflicts in the Middle East and in other areas of the world today would be moot if religion were assumed to be nothing more than a hobby. It's when people claim it's more that the trouble starts. I've always loved an insight I got when reading a trans- lation of a Japanese history book describing the first arrival of Europeans to their islands. The chapter was titled The Invasion Of The Barbarians, and the text made it perfectly clear why. In feudal Japan at that time (as now), the thing looked upon as the most taste- less, tactless, and low-vibe thing one could possibly do was to try to evangelize or try to sell one's religion to another person. It just wasn't done. So the missionaries arrived, found to their surprise that most Japanese weren't the least bit interested in the belief system they were selling, so they stopped selling and actually started imposing. There are docu- mented cases of Catholic priests with their cadre of troops threatening to kill all the members of villages if they didn't convert, and then carrying through on that threat. Nobody would ever have done that if believing in Jeezus had been thought of as being on the same level as a good hobby. You just don't kill someone when they don't find your fascination with your hobby as fascinating as you find it. But humans have a multi-century history of killing those who don't buy into their religion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: About the Amma Cult
You probably are too young to remember when his followers poisoned the people in a town in Oregon using salmonella. Ravi Yogi: So how does that matter? Others have pointed to the fact that although Sheela had bugged Osho's living quarters and made her tapes available to the U.S. authorities as part of her own plea bargain, no evidence has ever come to light that Osho had any part in her crimes... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho_(Bhagwan_Shree_Rajneesh)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nabby will like this one
turquoiseb: It was (and is) a few individuals who have opinions, and state them publicly... A lawsuit was created in the Superior Court of California on January 6, 2005 (Case No. 05cc01931). But realizing that the exposure was high Rahm eventually refused to go to court. No other alleged victim came forward to testify in support of his allegations, though anti-Sai activists claimed there were many alleged US victims...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Social Networking Invites
Bhairitu: What really annoys me about these groups is some twenty something telling me what I'm supposed to do. Probably what really annoys you is not having very many friends to share your story with, whether on Facebook, Twitter, or anywhere else.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This Modern World - Conservabot Returns
Rick Archer: This Modern World - Conservabot Returns So, you want to bring down the federal budget deficit, brought on by federal government overspending on entitlements and public pensions, by either minimizing the pain or making the rich pay? Go figure. http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2011/04/2180/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Social Networking Invites
Sal Sunshine: What you're supposed to do is ignore them. :) So, this is how you ignore them. :) As I've been doing. FB I enjoy, Linkedin i have no interest in. And even FB gets monotonous. There's really no substitute for good old-fashioned face-to-face. We cannot see your face on FFL, Sal. Bhairitu: I occasionally get an invite to join so and so on (fill in the blank)...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Social Networking Invites
Bhairitu: It's funny though interacting with 20-somethings... Apparently nearly 50% of Facebook users are over age 30.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Message of Saint Baba Jaigurudev
Tom Pall: Also, why did he have to utter my mantra. Satnam? Not just once but several times. Now it's lost all of it's power! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satnam
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is waking down?
Tom Pall: Would someone kindly state the high concepts of Waking Down for me? Everyone knows that 'Waking Down' is derived from the same source as the 'neo-Advaitins'. Notions of being 'all of who we are', 'unity', 'awakening', to the 'fullness of your own nature', being 'united' in the here-and-now, are pages straight out of the Neo-Advaitin handbook. Realizing an 'awakened state' of unity consciousness and integration into daily life, without the need for a 'spiritual master' or without a specific practice, are almost pure neo-Advaita. What we need here are some definitions. Apparently there are no Waking Down Teachers on this discussion group.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is waking down?
When your guru starts putting out cigarettes on women's bodies as a teaching lesson... turquoiseb: In my experience, it is not unusual for students of a controversial teacher to outshine their teacher when they start teaching themselves, and to carry with them none of the teacher's bad habits. I can think of several of Trogyam Chungpa's students who fit this description... Which students, that are now teaching, did not carry with them Trungpa's 'bad habits'? Apparently Adi Da did not smoke cigarettes, but it was Vaj's gurus, Swami Rama and Trungpa Rinpoche that smoked the Marlboro Lights, a pack-a-day.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do Vedantic techniques suck?
cardemaister: Why do Vedantic techniques suck? Which ones - all the Upanishad teachers were transcendentalist that followed Vedanta. The main difference between the Vedantists is that some believe that Chaitanya (circa 1500 AD), was an Avatar - Madhva, Nombarka, and Vallbha do not agree with this, but otherwise agree concerning the Vedanta. Vishnuism follows most of the common Hindu doctrines, but with some very subtle differences.
[FairfieldLife] Re: About the Amma Cult
Like I say, I've only seen a handful of videos and a few of the writings, but I like what I saw. Vaj: Osho, aka Rajneesh, was a Nitrous Oxide addict who also had a love of marijuana milkshakes and Valium. Some of his books are said to have been dictated while under Nitrous from a local dentist. Apparently, Osho consumed no dairy and none of his books were dictated after he moved to Oregon and met the dentist up there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: W H O is Sai Baba?
That they thus managed to dupe perhaps million of other lost fools like yourself to believe in these rumors is in no way a surprise... turquoiseb: Here's another simple, easily-answered question for you, Nabby. Has there *ever* been a spiritual teacher who you once thought was 'perfect,' or a saint or 'avatar' or even just an enlightened teacher, who you *changed your mind about*? What I'm asking is -- were you ever wrong in your initial assessment? My bet is that you will say no. My bet is that you *have* to say no, because to admit that you could have been wrong about one teacher means that you could be wrong about all of the others. What say you? How much would you be willing to wager?
[FairfieldLife] The Situation
THE SITUATION (received in email-reformatted for easy reading) In Washington, DC at a Metro Station, on a cold January morning in 2007, this man with a violin played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time, approximately 2,000 people went through the station, most of them on their way to work. After about 3 minutes, a middle-aged man noticed that there was a musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds, and then he hurried on to meet his schedule. About 4 minutes later: The violinist received his first dollar. A woman threw money in the hat and, without stopping, continued to walk. At 6 minutes: A young man leaned against the wall to listen to him, then looked at his watch and started to walk again. At 10 minutes: A 3-year old boy stopped, but his mother tugged him along hurriedly. The kid stopped to look at the violinist again, but the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk, turning his head the whole time. This action was repeated by several other children, but every parent - without exception - forced their children to move on quickly. At 45 minutes: The musician played continuously. Only 6 people stopped and listened for a short while. About 20 gave money but continued to walk at their normal pace. The man collected a total of $32. After 1 hour: He finished playing and silence took over. No one noticed and no one applauded. There was no recognition at all. No one knew this, but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the greatest musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written, with a violin worth $3.5 million dollars. Two days before, Joshua Bell sold-out a theater in Boston where the seats averaged $100 each to sit and listen to him play the same music. This is a true story. Joshua Bell, playing incognito in the D.C. Metro Station, was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste and people's priorities. This experiment raised several questions: 1. In a common-place environment, at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty? 2. If so, do we stop to appreciate it? 3. Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context? One possible conclusion reached from this experiment could be this: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world, playing some of the finest music ever written, with one of the most beautiful instruments ever made. How many other things are we missing as we rush through life?
[FairfieldLife] Searching for Eldorado
Neutrality, percipience, and non-agency Most of everything we know is we know through our eyes, ears, and sometimes with our nose. That is, we observe things and events, we see doors, tables, and chairs. But, are there other kinds of valid knowledge? We can also run and jump, think, and talk to our friends. So, we also get knowledge from experience and from others, and we can read books. [Wikipedia Commons Photo] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldorado,_Texas Somewhere in Eldorado, Texas In Sankhya-Yoga system, according to Theos Bernard, writing in 'Foundations of Hindu Philosophy', the phenomenal universe is considered a dynamic order, ...an eternal process unfolding, without beginning or end. In order to avoid the fallacy of regressus ad infinitum, which is not consistent with rational solutions, Samkhya postulates an 'Uncaused Cause', which remains undefined, as it is beyond, or transcendental to, human intellect. This absolute is beyond time and space, without attribute and form, and is forever removed from empirical scrutiny. True evolution, according to Samkhya, exists ONLY in the transformation of cosmic consciousness, Purusha, to the physical substance, prakriti, and that the manifestations of the physical and biological world, are only modifications of five gross elements. This sounds very reasonable since this can be confirmed by observation. Bernard notes that Samkhya ...views the evolutes of matter from its cosmic cause as a process of unfolding, a projection of potentialities according to fixed laws that can be understood by man (68). According to the sage Kapila, creation is impossible, for something cannot come out of nothing; change implies something to change; whatever is, always is, and whatever is not, never is. As Kapila states: And from the contrast with that which is composed of the three constituents, there follows, for the Purusha, the character of Being, a witness; freedom from misery, neutrality, percipience, and non-agency (XVII). For the investigation of the causal process, Samkhya recognizes three means of valid knowledge, and three only. What three? Perception, inference, and personal testimony - are the valid means of knowledge; comprehended in these three, used in particular instances depending on what is to be known. For example, perception is to be used for objects which are in contact with sense organs; inference is used for knowledge of those things of which only the characteristic marks are known, and testimony is used for knowledge of those things that are beyond the logical analysis of the mind. Works cited: 'Foundations of Hindu Philosophy' by Theos Bernard, Ph.D. Author of 'Hatha Yoga', 'Penthouse of the Gods', 'Heaven Lies Within' etc., etc. Philosophical Library, 1947 'The Samkhyakarika of Isvarakrishna' Samkhyakarika, trans. and ed. by S. Sastri University of Madras, 1935
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Conversation With Patanjali
Ravi Yogi: Anyway I think Bhoga Saadhana could indeed mean contemplating on worldly pleasures or indulgences... Samsara is described as mundane existence, full of suffering and misery and hence is considered undesirable and worth renunciation. The Samsara is without any beginning and the soul finds itself in bondage with its karma since the beginingless time. Moksha is the only liberation from samsara... Samsara: http://tinyurl.com/7e2o5c The first time I read the Yoga Sutras I misunderstood a lot, even for a smart guy. Now, I've put the right commentaries together with the correct translations and I've been able to understand the main idea behind the Yoga System. It might be auspicious if we begin with a short review of where we're coming from. TMers will have no problem with understanding Patanjali because it is dirt simple: Yoga citta vritti nirodha. (Yoga is the cessation of the mental turnings of the mind.) - Y.S. I.1.2 tada drastuh svarupe vasthanam. (When thought ceases, the Transcendental Absolute stands by itself, refers to Itself, as a witness to the world.) - Y.S. I.1.3 Read more: 'The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali' http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/yoga_sutras.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Zombie Apostles
turquoiseb: Catholics have always struck me as wusses with all of their fake body of Christ, blood of Christ stuff. Why not go for the real thing? Don't you just hate those Catholics!
[FairfieldLife] Don't revere your holy men, eat them! (was Re: Zombie Apostles)
turquoiseb: For those anxious to put this theory to the test, wouldn't Sai Baba be a good test case...? Well, probably none of us know Sai Baba any more than we know you, except maybe Conny Larssen, so why not you be the test case, since this is your idea? You're wise enough to have worked for MMY and Rama for thirty years or more, so you must be almost enlightened by now, right? Or, what exactly were you doing with those guys all those years? Those who believe in transubstantiation do not necessarily believe the elements of the Eucharist, bread and wine, actually change physically. The conversion into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ occurs on a spiritual level humans cannot measure or define. The bread and wine continue to have all the sensory elements of ordinary bread and wine... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kill Team
You're still subscribing and reading Rolling Stone? Go figure. Vaj: Don't worry, I suspect no one from Rolling Stone will be coming down to Austin to hold a gun to your head and make you read some good journalism. Yeah, some good journalism - that's what we need! Barack Obama owes General McChrystal an apology says the Telegraph. They're both talking about the same thing, as are many other papers and blogs a Pentagon report has found that many of the damaging allegations contained in an article in Rolling Stone magazine last year, written by a reporter who'd spent considerable time with McChrystal and his staff, were either untrue or cannot be proven... National Post: http://tinyurl.com/3jb5yob Gen. Stanley McChrystal Exonerated: http://tinyurl.com/3pzjsg5
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Just in C.C.'??
CC is not a static state but is a signpost on the road to development of freedom... Bhairitu: One is just moving towards Brahman anyway so these are just the scenery along the way... Actually, people are not moving anywhere. Brahman is an already existent; not an object of cognition, and absent all movement. All people need to do is *isolate* the scenery from the Reality. The scenery is just apparently moving, but not really - things don't really move about from one place to another. Perceived movement is just a series of thought instants. Movement is impossible - it's just an illusion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now It Can Be Told: 'Just in C.C.'
emptybill: Zeno Nagarjuna reveals the dirty little secret. Like Bradley, Nagarjuna would dialectically analyze every concept and show that it is neither existent, nor non-existent, nor both, nor neither. Yer jus' a figment of my imagination ... Actually, it is not correct, in the case of Shankara's Advaita, to say that things and events are a 'figment' of one's imagination, that is, imaginary constructs. Things and events are not real, yet not unreal, is a more accurate statement vis-a-vis Advaita. Illusions are real while they are being perceived, but it is a superimposition on the real. The rope, mistaken for a snake, is a real event, just not an accurate perception. Likewise, the horns on a hare, sky-flower, etc. So, we perceive that things move about, but all perceptions are filtered through our consciousness. See how the flag moves in the wind? Maybe it's your mind that is moving. - Old Zen Saying So, if I am driving down a Texas highway out by Eldorado and I see what looks like a wet spot on the road, even though it has not rained in sixty days, do I swerve and brake and run into a ditch? CC is not a static state but is a signpost on the road to development of freedom... One is just moving towards Brahman anyway so these are just the scenery along the way... Actually, people are not moving anywhere. Brahman is an already existent; not an object of cognition, and absent all movement. All people need to do is *isolate* the scenery from the Reality. The scenery is just apparently moving, but not really - things don't really move about from one place to another. Perceived movement is just a series of thought instants. Movement is impossible - it's just an illusion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: : WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA?
wleed3: WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? Jerome Corsi's Where's the Birth Certificate continued questions will either be answered or remain inconclusive. However, no matter what the media says about the issue, people are curious as Corsi's book hit the Amazon charts hard and fast today... Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/4xmmarl 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President By Jerome Corsi http://tinyurl.com/3zvjkno
[FairfieldLife] Re: I think I've finally figured it out...
turquoiseb: ...why some people are so attached to this all experience is pain thang. They've never had Unity experiences. What they consider the highest experiences they've ever had involve either transcendence or Maharishi's CC. In other words, experiences that are totally based on duality -- on the one hand infinite, eternal transcendence, and on the other ever-changing relative experience. Nothing wrong with this, as far as it goes, but IMO once you've had a taste of what MMY described as Unity you can't really go back from that, even if the experience fades. During such an experience, *there is no difference* between eternal and ephemeral, absolute and relative. It's all absolute. So, you believe in an absolute because MMY told you so? So, now you are a TB. Go figure. Believing that there is a *difference* between absolute and relative is the whole issue, IMO. Many of Patanjali's statements indicate to me that he never got past that issue. Many of the people clinging so desperately to his words as if they were Truth That Cannot Be Challenged strike me as coming from the same place. Just a theory...
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )
You are either free or you are bound. If free, then you have no need for a yoga; if bound, by what means can you free yourself? So you are back from hunting prairie-dogs in Wyoming but still feel the torment of unnatural urges. You are not making any sense - are you free or bound? azgrey: He can run but he can't hide. ---Joe Louis So, you are not free, you are bound to posting nonsense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba was a pedophile fraud... nablusoss1008: Is that so? Where is that abundant evidence? There is no evidence and there are no charges in Indian courts against Sai Baba. And, since Baba is probably dead, there's no chance for a cross-examination, so there's no case, just rumors, just like Joe posted about MMY. So, maybe Joe would like to post some evidence, or keep his big pie hole shut about other people's private sex life, or lack thereof.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What if they gave a pile on party and no one came?
turquoiseb: Some folks are so attached to their their beliefs that they cannot help but react to anyone who believes something different by trying to get them... So, you believe this to be true and it's getting to you, so you want to get them before they get to you? You just gave a pile on party and Judy didn't come. LoL!!! As I suggested before, I think that people should look at this tendency as an example of what the belief system in question actually DOES for the people who believe in it. Are they consistently in Gotta 'get' the critic mode? Do they react to a little criticism or a little fun-poking by claiming that the critics or humor- ists are stupid or violent or some other such epithet? Based on the behavior of several TM supporters here, it looks to me that if religious fanaticism is what you want from your belief system, TM is definitely the way to go. :-) Will the Pile On Queen make the 50% mark this week? 25 posts dissing or correcting TM critics out of 50? Tune in for further followups as the week progresses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Single-source reality: The problem with enlightenment
turquoiseB: Take Patanjali's statement that all experience is painful. *Most* people, no matter how much they buy into Hindu nihilism, would not describe *every experience they've had in life other than transcendence* as painful. Apparently you've totally misunderstood Hinduism and Buddhism. The point made by Judy, which you seem to have ignored, is that there is a way out of pain, a way out of suffering. If it is true that life is for the most part pain-full, where would you be without a release technique - a yoga? If your life is free from pain and suffering, then you don't need to spend eighteen years searching for a way out. So, it looks like you've wasted a lot of time seeking for something you never needed - apparently you are already free, enlightened and happy with everything! So, why did you follow the teachings of MMY and Rama? I think we can assume that Patanjali believed in a God of some sort, right? But, in the case of certain men, Ishvara can hasten the process of deliverance; he helps them toward a more speedy arrival at samadhi. This God, to whom Patatnjali refers, is more especially a god of yogins. He can come to the help only of a yogin, that is, a man who has already chosen Yoga. Read more: Subject: Ishvara: God of Yogins Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: July 31, 2002 http://tinyurl.com/6y47q9t
[FairfieldLife] Re: Single-source reality: The problem with enlightenment
I don't need no single source of OPINIONS about the nature of reality and of life itself... Bhairitu: So is the purpose of enlightenment to sit around and think about how we think? I would think the purpose of enlightenment is to enjoy it... So, that's what you think. Well, it's pretty simple: an individual suffers from the consequences of unknowing, and by identifying lasting value in that which is transient. That's it! Otherwise, you are just a simple materialist or naive realist sitting around thinking that you've already got all the answers. Read more: Subject: Vidya From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Aug 29 2002 12:31 am http://tinyurl.com/62v2b5p
[FairfieldLife] Re: Single-source reality: The problem with enlightenment
authfriend: Life is so much simpler when we have Barry to tell us what to think... Turq got mixed up again - nihilism means that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Turq seems to be the nihilist when he asserts that morality, norms, rules, or laws do not inherently exist or that absolute knowledge is possible. Turq dones not seem to be part of the enlightenment tradition, so why was he attempting to become a yogi? Just to clarify, my raps about Patanjali this week have all been pursuant to a certain theme. That is, that there is a certain down side to considering someone enlightened, given the definition of that state that has been presented to us as knowers of Truth. What seems to happen IMO is the minute someone buys into someone present or past as enlightened, they seem to lose their ability to examine the things that they say critically. They *don't* do this with other people. I, for one, am not convinced that imbuing the supposedly- enlightened with this much authority -- the state of their words being considered Truth, and thus immune to critical examination -- is a good thing. Take Patanjali's statement that all experience is painful. *Most* people, no matter how much they buy into Hindu nihilism, would not describe *every experience they've had in life other than transcendence* as painful. But this guy *wants* you to. I think we can assume that Patanjali believed in a God of some sort, right? What does his declaration that all experience is painful say about how he *perceives* this God? In his view, God created a universe in which *every experience* other than the one he prefers is painful. The sound of your child laughing is painful. Gazing at a beautiful sunset or a lovely flower is painful. That's sure some God that this guy imagines. And yet NOBODY NOTICES. They've bought so heavily into Patanjali being enlightened, *based on nothing more than having been told he was*, that they never step back and examine the things he had to say from a critical perspective, to analyze what they might infer about the universe they live in. His words imply that the essential nature of the universe we live in is pain. And that it was *designed* that way, by God. Only by going beyond *all* experience can one have an experience that *isn't* pain. Call me crazy, but I think that when one steps back from revering these supposedly enlightened guys and examines the things they say critically, a lot of them don't hold water. A lot of them, in fact, devolve into pure ego. I *know* the Truth. I *know* that all experience is pain. Your only hope for avoiding this pain is to do what I tell you to do, which is essentially to become more like me. What else can one call this BUT ego? The supposedly enlightened are so caught up in the narcissistic vision with which they see the world that to them it appears to be not only Truth, but some kind of Universal Truth. They go out of their way to try to convince others that it IS the Truth, and that these others should (or must) become more like them. You can call this wisdom or dharma if you like; I call it ego. I see the supposedly enlightened as Just Guys. They have OPINIONS, same as I do. These OPINIONS are inherently no better than mine. When they attempt to say that their OPINIONS ARE better than mine, or synonymous with Truth, I cry bullshit. That's not being enlightened, that's being Just Another Religious Fanatic, mistaking one's own personal subjective exper- ience for Universal Experience. I don't need no single source of OPINIONS about the nature of reality and of life itself. I may *consider* some other source, and adopt parts of that OPINION if they strike a kind of intuitive resonance with my own, but I will never grant these OPINIONS the authority they seem to want so much. The very fact that so many of them want it so *badly* and dismiss or excommunicate anyone who doesn't buy into what they say *as* Truth speaks to me not of balance and wisdom, but imbalance and out-of- control ego. YMMV.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )
turquoiseb: See what happens when you stop considering these guys holy or wise? It has nothing to do with being holy or wise. The point is, if your life is satisfactory and without any suffering or pain, then why would you be practicing a yoga to gain release? You are either free or you are bound. If free, then you have no need for a yoga; if bound, by what means can you free yourself?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Conversation With Patanjali
turquoiseb: Ignoring attempts to derail this thread and make it all about Buddhism, I'm going to bring it back to its original subject, Patanjali... Samadhi, dukkha, suffering, nirodha (cessation) are crucial terms in Buddhist vocabulary. The doctrine of suffering is the core of what Buddhists believe the Buddha taught after gaining enlightenment. Patanjali's ashtang eight-limbed practice is parallel to the eight-limbed path of Shakya the Muni. So, the original topic was Patanjali's Yoga, which is based on original Buddhism.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Conversation With Patanjali
curtisdeltablues: I just think he was full of it and that his premises about reality are bogus... But, for some reason you practiced yoga for fourteen years and majored in philosophy at MUM? It just doesn't make any sense! Samkhya is the philosophical foundation of all Indian culture, the measuring rod of the entire Buddhist, Hindu and Sikh world-view. So, what exactly, were you striving for in the TMO and at MUM? Let there be soundless repetition of [the pranava] and meditation thereon (Patanjali Y.S., Book One V. 28).
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )
You are either free or you are bound. If free, then you have no need for a yoga; if bound, by what means can you free yourself? azgrey: So you are back from hunting prairie-dogs in Wyoming but still feel the torment of unnatural urges. You are not making any sense - are you free or bound?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Conversation With Patanjali
You seem bound to post off-topic photos, so I guess to that extend you are not free. Or, you feel free to take up internet band-space for no good reason. Yifu: fish market, 1935 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/32470.jpg I just think he was full of it and that his premises about reality are bogus... But, for some reason you practiced yoga for fourteen years and majored in philosophy at MUM? It just doesn't make any sense! Samkhya is the philosophical foundation of all Indian culture, the measuring rod of the entire Buddhist, Hindu and Sikh world-view. So, what exactly, were you striving for in the TMO and at MUM? Let there be soundless repetition of [the pranava] and meditation thereon (Patanjali Y.S., Book One V. 28).
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Conversation With Patanjali
curtisdeltablues: You may be overstating that since Samkhya came a lot later than many of the principles in Hinduism... Samkhya came long before 'Hinduism'; before the historical Buddha (563BCE), and before Buddhism. That's why historians think the Buddha may have been influenced by Samkhya. Patanjali's (200 BCE) yoga is derived from Samkhya. Likewise Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, and Sikhism, all influenced by the Samkhya dualism. Samkhya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya According to Theos Bernard, ...the Samkhya School of Kapila, on which the Yoga Sutras are based, is the oldest school of Hindu Philosophy, and is itself an attempt to harmonize the Vedas through reason. Work cited: Foundations of Hindu Philosophy by Theos Bernard, Ph.D. Author of 'Hatha Yoga', 'Penthouse of the Gods', 'Heaven Lies Within' etc. Philosophical Library 1947
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )
However, the wise (though their own mind is totally free of all sorrow) consider all experiences painful as they are all the fruits of the actions of ignorance (Y.S. II.15). turquoiseb: What kind of life-hater aspires to consider all experiences painful? Buddhists and Hindus? It is very painful to desire knowledge and not obtain the wisdom to understand the fleeting nature of life - to be reborn in an endless cycle of birth, old age, and death; without release from the chain of causation, without obtaining enlightenment; to live in ignorance without the ability to discriminate between the transitory and the lasting.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )
What kind of life-hater aspires to consider all experiences painful? authfriend: And there we have it, the definitive refutation of the Yoga Sutras: Because one verse sounds to Barry as if it implies hatred of the world, therefore the entire work is worthless to him... Of course, Buddhists don't hate the world, they just see it as it is, painful and unsatisfactory. And from the contrast with that which is composed of the three constituents, there follows, for the Purusha, the character of Being, a witness; freedom from misery, neutrality, percipience, and non-agency - Samkhyakarika, XVII Read more: Subject: Uncaused Cause From: Willyex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: April 18, 2001 http://tinyurl.com/ylqmaxt
[FairfieldLife] Re: What if they gave a pile on party and no one came?
A certain someone will try -- as she does every week -- to diss several people she never gets tired of dissing... Bhairitu: I suspect that certain someone goes through life picking fights anyway. Most likely on other places than just FFL... This is your 'dissing'? Very impressive! A barista on Mendocino at a cozy little shop called The Haven occasionally puts a nice flourish on my latte, and I've taken some cellphone pictures of this oeuvreThree of the works in the poster are his - the rest are from the net. For latte lovers everywhere... http://i56.tinypic.com/2ce22l2.jpg From: Ned Ludd Subject: Newest Poster Newsgroups: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy Date: April 8, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3l5gd3l
[FairfieldLife] Re: Myron H. Phelps' notes on Radhasoami
BillyG: ...it's probably Potato. Meditation on the 'sound current' is very similar to TM practice. The sound current in Radhasoami is a vibration which, like a place-holder for a bija mantra, is a yoga practice that provides an ideal opportunity for transcending. According to Randolph Coplin, Guru Dev may have been very influenced by the Santmat movement. David C. Lane says that Shiv Dayal was the first Radhasoami master. So, lets go over the known facts: It is a fact Swami Brahmananda was a Sannyasin of the Saraswati sect founded by the Adi Shankaracgharya at Sringeri Matha. It is a fact that Brahmananda's teacher was Swami Krishanand Saraswati of Sringeri. It is a fact that the bija mantras are enscribed on the Sri Yantra, placed on the Sringeri altar by the Adi Shankaracharya. It is a fact that the TM bija mantras are enumerated in the Sound Arya La Hari composed by the Adi. According to Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, the bija mantra is the primary sound of the universe, called Shabd in Sanskrit. So, meditation on bija mantras comes directly from the Sri Vidya tradition passed on to MMY by SBS and thus, to every TMer. These are the facts. All mantric practices stem from the ancient mantra practice of Oddiyana, that is, the Siddhas of the Trans-Himalaya, hence to Kashmere and then down to Karnataka. The Mantrayana was adopted, with some modifications, by the Adi Shankaracharya as 'Sri Vidya' following the Gupta Age in India. Read more: 'The Radhasoami Tradition' A critical history of guru successorship By David Christopher Lane Subject: Its Not What You Think! Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation Date: August 26, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/283gfbw
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's your guNa-vRtti-virodha? ; )
However, the wise (though their own mind is totally free of all sorrow) consider all experiences painful as they are all the fruits of the actions of ignorance (Y.S. II.15). 'Enlightened Living' by Swami Venkatesananda http://tinyurl.com/33wy6kj http://tinyurl.com/33wy6kj
[FairfieldLife] Re: What if they gave a pile on party and no one came?
But what if no one piled on...? nablusoss1008: Judy simply disintegrate your attempts with her piercieng insights exposing your vain plans for everyone to see... So, it looks like, with Judy's help, we've corrected all the misinformation spread around here by all these discredited TM Teachers and well-poisoners. All the false rumors have been put to rest about MMY murdering anyone, and we've pretty much mainly discredited any reports of MMY's purported private sex life, or lack thereof. So, there's just a few minor details to clear up, like being aware of the bija 'just like any other thought', 'striving' in TM practice, and a few details about the non-semantic nature of bjijas. Keep up all the good work!!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi in Iowa
Really there are not very many people in the domes... There are no longer any living masters in the TMO, so there is no person one can go to within the TM organization if one has questions about their prac- tice or experiences that are not covered in the basic guidelines taught to TM teachers... There are no longer any living masters in the TMO, so there is no person one can go to within the TM organization if one has questions about their prac- tice or experiences that are not covered in the basic guidelines taught to TM teachers... Well, certainly not any 'living masters' in the TMO since you and Joe got kicked out! Westchester and southern Connecticut first became that base of the group's operations in 1989 when many members moved east from California. His followers found work as free-lance computer programmers and attended computer classes and his personal lectures at SUNY-Purchase... Westchester Reporter Monday, August 8, 1994
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's last will testimony
So, I guess we can put this rumor to rest, since there's not any new evidence being presented - GD died of natural causes due to old age. He left a will which was carried out by the Jyotirmath Trust; there was no murder and the cook was not even in the same town when GD passed away. 'The Cook Did It!' http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/shantanand3.htm Nothing here about any 'murder' of GD by MMY! Vaj: Did you actually read it? It was sealed before the murder. Stop making weird shut up Willy, you're starting to sound like Judy now! So, I guess if their was a 'murder', or even the rumor of a murder, it would have been mentioned in the India press such as the 'Times of India', 'The Hindu', or 'Hinduism Today', at least once in the past 58 years, right? Apparently there has never been reported a murder of any Shankaracharya in the history of India. Please correct me if I am mistaken about this. According to Mr. Sundaresan: A few weeks after he passed away, a will was found, according to the terms of which, a disciple called Swami Santananda Saraswati was named as the first choice for succeeding to the Jyotirmath title. None of the civil suits in this dispute seems to have been framed in terms of contesting the legal bona fides of Brahmananda's will... http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/jyotirmath.pdf From the Hinduism Today: PASSED ON: Senior, retired, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Peeth, Swami Shantanand Saraswati Ji Maharaj, age ninety, on December 7, 1997, in Allahabad, India. Senior leaders of the VHP participated in final rites. Swami became Shankaracharya in 1953 after the death of his guru, Brahmanand Saraswati. Swami Basudevanand Saraswati is his successor.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi in Iowa
turquoiseb: What I've been trying to suggest in this series of posts, Buck, is that it's a sad situation which is perpetuated by the people it's being done to remain- ing silent and not blowing the whistle on this in public... Anyone can pretty much tell that Turq has not attended very many group meditation sessions, either TM or Buddhist. Most of the rules employed by the TMO at the various domes agree with most zen sesshins I've attended over the years. In fact, meditating in the Patanjali Dome would be considered liberal by most zen masters and Tibetan lama mediation leaders as well. It would be amusing to see Turq inside an actual Buddhist retreat to see how he would sneak in some ice cream to eat while sitting on the mat!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's last will testimony
Nothing here about any 'murder' of GD by MMY! Vaj: Did you actually read it? It was sealed before the murder. Stop making weird shut up Willy, you're starting to sound like Judy now! So, I guess if their was a 'murder', or even the rumor of a murder, it would have been mentioned in the India press such as the 'Times of India', 'The Hindu', or 'Hinduism Today', at least once in the past 58 years, right? Apparently there has never been reported a murder of any Shankaracharya in the history of India. Please correct me if I am mistaken about this. According to Mr. Sundaresan: A few weeks after he passed away, a will was found, according to the terms of which, a disciple called Swami Santananda Saraswati was named as the first choice for succeeding to the Jyotirmath title. None of the civil suits in this dispute seems to have been framed in terms of contesting the legal bona fides of Brahmananda's will... http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/jyotirmath.pdf From the Hinduism Today: PASSED ON: Senior, retired, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Peeth, Swami Shantanand Saraswati Ji Maharaj, age ninety, on December 7, 1997, in Allahabad, India. Senior leaders of the VHP participated in final rites. Swami became Shankaracharya in 1953 after the death of his guru, Brahmanand Saraswati. Swami Basudevanand Saraswati is his successor.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally
Exactly the same way that the TM supporters try to demonize anyone who criticizes TM and MMY, eh? :-) Vaj: They have to demonize, because the cannot do so through honesty and forthrightness. Twisting the truth is their modus operandi, all the while claiming to be honest or maintaining some imaginary 'purity of the tradition'. Sort of like you demonizing MMY and accusing him of conspiring with the ashram cook to murder Guru Dev, when the cook wasn't even in the same town as GD? That kind of demonizing? Conspiracy Theories - the Cook Did It! http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/shantanand3.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Radhaswami Guru
Yifu: In the Radhaswami Tradition, just discovered him 5 min ago, haven't had time to investigate. If like the rest, wants your devotion and money. If you have any money you could donate - lots of people donate to Amma and perform devotion to Amma and her movement. Best and worst places to make money: The best... 1. Illinois: The adjusted average income is $41,987, thanks to reasonably high average wages, relatively low state income taxes and a reasonable cost of living. 2. Washington (state): The cost of living is higher than average, but so is the average wage and the state imposes no income tax. Adjusted average income: $41,456. 3. Texas: Also benefits from no state income tax. Adjusted average income: $41,427 The worst... 1. Hawaii: $22,108 2. Maine: $29,159 '10 Best and Worst States to Make a Living' by Kathy Kristof Tuesday, April 12, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3cqqdbn
[FairfieldLife] Ignorance or dishonesty, or both? (was Re: Analyzing the TMO using the eco)
Nothing here about any 'murder' of GD by MMY! Stop making weird shut up Willy, you're starting to sound like Judy now! authfriend: Willytex is making nothing up; Vaj is. And I don't make stuff up, ever. Vaj knows this. Vaj made posted four lies in this message alone. There are no reports in any Indian press of a Shankaracharya ever being murdered, nor on Mr. Sundershan's Jyotirmath Controversy PDF, nor by Professor Sawyer, nor in the newsletter mentioned by Paul Mason. There is no case in any Indian court of a murdered Shankaracharya in the history of India. After the samadhistha (state of absorption in samadhi) of Ananta Shri Vibhushit Jyotishpithadhishwar Jagadguru Shankaracharya Brahmibhut, Swami Brahmanand Ji Saraswati, disciples have been reading many things in the papers in connection with occurrences taking place, so it is very natural for them to become anxious. For the circle of anxious disciples to understand the reality and to prevent suspicion, it is necessary for this article to be published... Extract from `Shri Shankaracharya Upadesha' pages 20-23 of the newsletter of Shankaracharya of Jyotishpeeth Published 20th July 1953
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the economic psychology model
So, you're fascinated by Judy's posts! turquoiseb: The fascinating thing is that none of this strikes her as in the least obsessive, and as a multi-year, ongoing, compulsive attempt to get someone who just coincident- ally happens to be a TM critic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip One of the fascinating things about Vaj's jihad against TM is that whenever he's discussed the actual instructions for practicing the technique, he's gotten them wildly wrong. He hasn't done that in a while, perhaps because the last time he tried, three TM teachers (Peter, raunchy, and the do.rk) told him flatly that he didn't know what he was talking about (echoed by moi, a trained but not certified checker). You have made this allegation several times in the past. Can you please provide me with some message #'s so that I may look them up and decide for myself the veracity of his claims. Happy to. The big discussion, in August 2009, began with this post from Vaj: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/226302 In that discussion, these are the posts from raunchy, BillyG, and the do.rk disputing Vaj's description of the instructions for TM: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/226335 (raunchy) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/226341 (BillyG) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/226350 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/226359 (the do.rk) (I'd forgotten BillyG--he makes *four* teachers who disputed Vaj. I can't find Peter's post, but it's in there somewhere. My analysis is in there too.) The discussion was revived by Vaj in December 2010, here (starting with my response, which quotes him; you can track back to his post if you want to make sure I didn't quote him out of context): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/263765 And a relevant follow-up from me: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/263767 I erred, BTW, in my earlier post when I said the teachers had come down on him the *last* time he brought up the instructions for TM. It was the time before that, in 2009, but as you'll see the issues were identical. I believe there were a couple of similar disputes even earlier, back on alt.m.t. And there have been others who have expressed doubt about Vaj's status as a TMer/teacher as well, in other threads. Using raunchy as a source doesn't quite cut the mustard for me. That's unfortunate, and rather perplexing given the concurrence of the other three teachers. I have read Vaj's postings that he has practiced TM and became an Initiator. I am also aware he has not publicly stated which TTC he attended. There are possibly several valid reasons for not revealing that. Sure, that in and of itself may or may not be significant in this context. But getting the instructions for practice wrong tends to put some weight on the significant side of his refusal to say which TTC he went to. Thank you in advance. It would clear up some confusion. You're welcome. Thank you for asking. It would be a good thing, IMHO, to get this cleared up, if possible.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's last will testimony
Well, I guess this puts to rest the Jyotirmath succession controversy once and for all, as well as Vaj and Professor Swayer's opinions about the legal successor in the line of the Jyotirmath Shankaracharya - what I have been saying for close to ten years now. Case seems to be closed, thanks to Paul's translation of Guru Dev's last will and testament. Nothing here about any 'murder' of GD by MMY! The hypotheses that the signatures of Maharaj Shri were obtained without his knowledge, or in a condition when he did not have the strength to notice, are completely baseless. http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/TheLastInstruction.html
[FairfieldLife] Somewhere west of Laramie
Some readers will already be familiar with my obsession with 'smooth' things, i.e., cargo cults, some tantric cults involving sexual thaumaturgy, deviant cults, and cults with supposed access to the Axis Mundi or Materia Mater, that is, the abject physical objects which man deems worthy of highest veneration, e.g., up-rights, ridge-poles, cave holes, trees, stones, rocks, fire fetishes, body parts, and various and sundry man-made structures of wood or brick in which is housed, within the holy of holies, the grotesque likeness of the demi-urge, who raped man's ability to reason, when the demi-urge, by force of arms, expelled Eve from the Garden, off Erewhon Street, that is, east of Eden, because she had read from the Book of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and had rejected it, in favor of the Staff of Hermes, or Life. Go figure. By Allah, I know you are but a stone, but I saw the prophet kiss you.* Disclaimer: STOP! What you read here may be disturbing; if you have any spiritual sensibilities, please go no further. *Omar Ibn al-Khattab, the second Caliph of Islam. Read more: http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/somewhere.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the economic psychology model
Seems to be increasing lately, infiltrating posts and then becoming the main point. I spoke up, Joe, but I just can't make it stop. turquoiseb: The thing is you CAN'T make it stop. It is Judy's entire life; she has nothing else. We are talking about a person who, when AZ or someone reminds her of the Junkyard Dog website written about her years ago for doing this *same* stuff, THINKS THE SITE IS A COMPLIMENT. http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ She's like some kind of deranged religious fanatic singing Onward Christian soldiers, marching on to war. She really does seem to believe that spending this much time, for this many years, trying to get the people she feels are the enemies of her belief system is DHARMA. It's a *war* in her view, and she sees herself as Arjuna. Arjuna on crack. :-) Judy seems to be the only check on Barry's ego. Without her around here to speak up for the truth, Joe and Barry would run rampamt with their lies like old tyrants. Hell, I counted over four lies in the post above! As for the 'Junkyard' dog website, it is proof that the asshole Nick could not win an argument in a fair debate, and so it is with Turq and the Azgrey, apparently, since this is at least the fifth time they've posted the url after Judy waxed them really good. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the economic psychology model
It doesn't get a lot more hateful than that here... Joe: God please (if there is a god) make it stop! No one cares about this stuff! No one. I beg youif you care, please speak up now... (PS: WillyTex's vote doesn't count. He's a total 'tard.) Don't you just hate that Willytex! Hey, Joe, you know my name is Richard, but if it makes you feel better to call me 'tex', go ahead - I don't mind. But why do you have to base your comments on birth circumstances? Your support of the the caste system is one of the main reasons you sucked as a spiritual teacher. This is extremely ugly! From the Yahoo search engine: authfriend + hater = 78 (http://tinyurl.com/44d865q) turquoiseb + hater = 42 (http://tinyurl.com/3umsn5j) vaj + hater = 0 Actually, if you count the way Barry did above, you'll get: vaj + hater = 11 Three of those instances were, in fact, extremely ugly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
Rick: Sai Baba may croak Joe: Not for Willy, Curtis. Any post is cause for Willy to trot out his tired routines. It never seems to bother him that 99% of the time he ends up pissing in the wind with no takers on his trolling. Thanks Joe, I knew I could count on you! So, why would Willy want to dialog with four schmucks that got kicked out of running the TMO? He just runs the same tired schtick over and over and over... Joe never seems to get tired of talking about other people's private sex life, after they are dead or are about to croak. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Government Shutdown Looms
If this happens, a lot of people will be very upset. This is another example of our politicians at work in Washington DC. authfriend: Mostly the Republicans. After major concessions from the Democrats, the GOP is now holding an agreement hostage to their demand to defund Planned Parenthood. So, why should the American taxpayers support Planned Parenthood when they already are going to pay for the Obama health care plan? Is the federal government going to pay for abortions or not? The 332,278 abortions Planned Parenthood performed over the 365 days of 2009 equals an average of 910 lives terminated per dayor about 38 per hour, or one every 95 seconds... Hot Air, April 8, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3gty9v9
[FairfieldLife] Re: Well, mahaasiddhis favourable for samaadhi?
cardemaister: From Bhojadeva's comment on YS III 45: Thence follow psychic powers like the ability to reduce the body to the size of an atom, etc., and perfection of body and its immunity from the ravages of the elements of nature (Y.S. IV 45). Enlightened Living (Yoga Sutra of Patanjali) by Swami Venkatesananda http://tinyurl.com/33wy6kj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Well, mahaasiddhis favourable for samaadhi?
Vaj: Siddhis are said to be as desirable to a knower of the Self as milk-porridge in a dog's vomit... ...he miraculously created the palace of Lotus Light endowed with inconceivable decorations and also emanated a replica of himself on each of the surrounding eight islands where they reside as kings who teach the eight heruka sadhanas. - Jamgon Kongtrul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padmasambhava
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the economic psychology model
Once Barry starts lying, he can't stop. turquoiseb: And Judy believes that after 17 years of obsessing on the same stalkee she has any credibility. :-) At this point she's now spent almost half of her posts this week trying to get him. My bet is that this ratio will hold for the rest of the week. Any takers? Thought not. :-) How much would you be willing to wager? And this is the woman nitpicking on the term hater.
[FairfieldLife] Re: . Buddhism To Be Subject of New Continuing Ed Course
Robert: Yeah, I met the Dalai Lama once 14 lifetimes ago, and once in this lifetime, so? So, you met the Dalai Lama BEFORE there was even a Dalai Lama?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Kill Team
Yeah, well, that's what you said about prairie dogs and look at the trouble they got into around you... There are no 'prairie dogs' in San Antonio or Austin, you fu*in idiot. azgrey: You import them? Oh dear lord! this is even worse than I thought!! You are a monster!!! You seem to be racial profiling again; not all people that live in Texas import prairie dogs from Mexico to eat. Some Hispanics like to eat tacos with cow meat in them. You seem to be trying to enforce a caste and class system based on birth circumstances. You don't seem to like Hispanics very much - why not? You seem to be very prejudiced against some groups.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his skin darkened... Have his skin darkened? This is another joke, right? curtisdeltablues: Got your Offend-O-Meter set a tad low don't ya Richard? Not all people who grow 'Afros' have dark skin, Curtis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas prairie dog
Yifu: http://www.armadillos.info/pic2.jpg Another example of racial prejudice against Hispanics that live in Texas?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
Not all people who grow 'Afros' have dark skin, Curtis. curtisdeltablues: Nice try. We were talking about Sai specifically. Aren't there enough legitimate things to be outraged about in this world that you don't have to contrive a perspective? When you snake oil salespeople start talking about other people and their skin color, I try to figure out where they're comming from, but Rick said he was serious. What would a person's skin color have to do with anything?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
curtisdeltablues: I appreciate Steve having my back but I didn't take Rick's post to have anything to do with Sai's personal life, just his professional charlatan life. I didn't think he was implying more than that. You mean that you don't think Rick was implying that you were a professional charlatan in your day? You sold the snake oil for what, thirteen years? So, I guess he meant you could still be a good snake oil salesman, right? It says a lot about the guy that his name is synonymous here with criminally sick behavior. so I guess I am not the only one who is skeptical about some self proclaimed God men! So, why would Rick imply that you'd be the perfect candidate to replace Sai Baba as a 'God Man' if the Sai's name was 'synonymous with criminally sick behavior'? It doesn't even make any sense to make your skin darker! Sai Baba was Caucasian with an 'Afro'!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the economic psychology model
I guess what I am saying is that TM-haters as a term is unnecessary drama as a term for people who don't think about TM exactly as you do. turquoiseb: Let's say that again, a little louder this time, because a lot of TM addicts on this forum are a little hard of hearing: Oh, so now Curtis is a 'TM addict' because he likes to meditate for five minutes before shows?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Glenn Beck lost it
Bhairitu: As for anti-semitism that is a term that right wing Israeli factions use to derail criticism of their apartheid... So, you're thinking that anti-semitism is a myth and there was no holocaust - it was all made up by right wing Israelis to derail criticism of the Israeli state's right to exist? But most of the Gaza residents hate Jews. You are not making any sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas prairie dogs - unusually slender
Yifu Xero: Subject: Texas prairie dogs - unusually slender So, you have a very strong prejudice against people due to their birth circumstances. You sound like a racist. And because I live in Texas you think I eat prarie dogs; all Mexicans eat tacos; and all Chinese eat dogs? Is that right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: new product: - multicultural crayons
Yifu: For every skin color. What about aliens? Why do you keep talking about skin color and aliens when you don't even have an immigration reform plan? Maybe you should just keep your pie hole shut about ethnicity. Are you from outer space or what? 'We now see the real Obama on immigration' By Ruben Navarrette San Antonio Express-News, April 8, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/6g69g49
