Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Now why couldn't I say that?   (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think that's why the call it "theoretical physics."  Didn't you learn that 
in your college physics classes?
 
 Still haven't seen any evidence that our resident armchair scientists on FFL 
actually know anything about science.  It's just "popular" to "look scientific" 
in the 21st century, I guess.
 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 On 07/01/2015 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.
 
 
 Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is 
therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist.
 
 
 
 From: salyavin808  mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote :
 
 Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at 
least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. 
 
 If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do 
so.
 
 
 But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by 
respected and non respected scientists.
 

 Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:mjackson74@... wrote :
 
 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 
 
 This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 
 
 
 
 From: salyavin808  mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subjec!t: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 
 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 
 
 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other! hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it 
handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile 
the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective 
it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 
 
 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 
 
 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 
 
 That works for him.
 
 
 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 
 
 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 
 
 I think things are off to a great start.&nb! sp; 
 
 
 Hmmm
 
 
 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 
 
 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 
 
 Not what I meant
 
 
 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 
 
 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 
 
 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scient

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think that's why the call it "theoretical physics."  Didn't you learn that 
in your college physics classes?
 
 Still haven't seen any evidence that our resident armchair scientists on FFL 
actually know anything about science.  It's just "popular" to "look scientific" 
in the 21st century, I guess.
 

 "Science is how we've learned not to kid ourselves" - Richard Feynman.
 

 
 
 On 07/01/2015 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.
 
 
 Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is 
therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist.
 
 
 
 From: salyavin808  mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote :
 
 Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at 
least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. 
 
 If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do 
so.
 
 
 But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by 
respected and non respected scientists.
 

 Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:mjackson74@... wrote :
 
 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 
 
 This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 
 
 
 
 From: salyavin808  mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subjec!t: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 
 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 
 
 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other! hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it 
handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile 
the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective 
it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 
 
 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 
 
 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 
 
 That works for him.
 
 
 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 
 
 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 
 
 I think things are off to a great start.&nb! sp; 
 
 
 Hmmm
 
 
 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 
 
 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 
 
 Not what I meant
 
 
 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 
 
 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 
 
 Hiding behind a PHD and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I think that's why the call it "theoretical physics."  Didn't you learn 
that in your college physics classes?


Still haven't seen any evidence that our resident armchair scientists on 
FFL actually know anything about science.  It's just "popular" to "look 
scientific" in the 21st century, I guess.


On 07/01/2015 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream 
science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely 
true.


Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true 
and is therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist.



*From:* salyavin808 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a 
spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be 
proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable 
future.


If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, 
please do so.


But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted 
by respected and non respected scientists.


Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream 
science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely 
true.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. 
If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? 
 Is anyone being coerced to participate?


This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who 
gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass.



*From:* salyavin808 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
*Subjec! t:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.

Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on 
the other! hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the 
way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he 
can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his 
beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who 
remind him of the dichotomy.


I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the 
"same", so I skipped over most of it.

But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points 
than most.


That works for him.

How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become 
something "working"? Sounds like denial to me.



You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at 
all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's 
nothing on TV tonight? Go figure.


I think things are off to a great start.&nb! sp;

Hmmm

What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the 
ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to 
try and do something about it?


Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I 
don't reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of 
about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any 
circumstances, as I would  have theirs.


Not what I meant

The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" 
with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay 
a bit more attention...


He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. 
If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? 
 Is anyone being coerced to participate?


It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of 
crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't 
know any better an awful lot of money.


Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for 
instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your 
beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as 
likely in a Harry Potter movie.


I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful 
that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life 
and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a 
TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the 
unif

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, then, aren't we just fortunate that you're around, Michael, so the 
scientific community isn't fooled by JH. 

 I mean you weren't here for a long time.  Do you think you can make up for 
these lost years?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.
 

 Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is 
therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist.

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at 
least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. 

 If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do 
so.
 

 But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by 
respected and non respected scientists.
 

 Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 

 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 

 That works for him.
 

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 

 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 

 I think things are off to a great start.  
 

 Hmmm
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 

 Not what I meant
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for 
instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs 
are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry 
Potter movie.
 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
 

 It's a religion and ex

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.
Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is 
therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at 
least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future.
If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so.
But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by 
respected and non respected scientists.

Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Heis spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. Ifpeople 
want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Isanyone being 
coerced to participate?
This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other 
hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", so 
I skipped over most of it.But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

That works for him.
How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.

You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that 
there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV 
tonight? Go figure. 

I think things are off to a great start.  
Hmmm
What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
Not what I meant
The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people 
want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone being 
coerced to participate?
It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and can 
be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an 
awful lot of money.
Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, 
claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so 
outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter 
movie.
I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I 
expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Sorta funny, Sal, don&#x

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 It's a chat room. I'm chatting. Doug wrecked this place so we talk about him.

 

 ok, fair enough.  that's your take about the "wrecking" part.
 

 Someones got to.

 

 hey, if that's your bag, go for it.
 

 Jesus I'm tired of explaining the same things to the sametrue  believers who 
decide that living in denial is a good idea.

 

 It's easier than thinking is all it is.
 

 speaking of being "tired", I gotta say playing  the "true believer" card on 
those who disagree with you, would strike me as "tired", as we've had decades 
of that here.
 

 God almighty, you really do scrape the barrel to try and bolster yourself when 
someone pints out you are talking crap.

 

 Anyway you can get someone else to explain things to you, I'm outta here.
 

 A good decision, I think, under the circumstances.  Best of luck to you.
 

 Maybe when he has something new to say or can approach any number of subjects 
with a more open mind he'll be back. Or maybe not. All I know is this place is 
changing for the better.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
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 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at 
least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. 

 If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do 
so.
 

 But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by 
respected and non respected scientists.
 

 Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.
 

 He can claim that the theories are true, and are based on unknown or 
undiscovered laws, but of course it will gain no traction without any proof.
 

 So, again, you are focussing your efforts on the several hundred people who 
accept these ideas at face value?
 

 And again, how many wild theories have been proposed, that have turned out to 
be true, and able to be proven.
 

 Quite a few, I would imagine.
 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 

 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 

 That works for him.
 

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 

 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 

 I think things are off to a great start.  
 

 Hmmm
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 

 Not what I meant
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for 
instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs 
are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry 
Potter movie.
 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at 
least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. 

 If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do 
so.
 

 But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by 
respected and non respected scientists.
 

 Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and 
that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 

 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 

 That works for him.
 

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 

 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 

 I think things are off to a great start.  
 

 Hmmm
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 

 Not what I meant
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for 
instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs 
are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry 
Potter movie.
 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at 
least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. 

 If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do 
so.
 

 But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by 
respected and non respected scientists.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 

 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 

 That works for him.
 

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 

 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 

 I think things are off to a great start.  
 

 Hmmm
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 

 Not what I meant
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for 
instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs 
are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry 
Potter movie.
 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 It's a chat room. I'm chatting. Doug wrecked this place so we talk about him.

 

 ok, fair enough.  that's your take about the "wrecking" part.
 

 Someones got to.

 

 hey, if that's your bag, go for it.
 

 Jesus I'm tired of explaining the same things to the sametrue  believers who 
decide that living in denial is a good idea.

 

 It's easier than thinking is all it is.
 

 speaking of being "tired", I gotta say playing  the "true believer" card on 
those who disagree with you, would strike me as "tired", as we've had decades 
of that here.
 

 God almighty, you really do scrape the barrel to try and bolster yourself when 
someone pints out you are talking crap.

 

 Anyway you can get someone else to explain things to you, I'm outta here.
 

 A good decision, I think, under the circumstances.  Best of luck to you.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people 
want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone being 
coerced to participate?
This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets 
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. 

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other 
hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", so 
I skipped over most of it.But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

That works for him.
How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.

You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that 
there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV 
tonight? Go figure. 

I think things are off to a great start.  
Hmmm
What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
Not what I meant
The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people 
want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone being 
coerced to participate?
It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and can 
be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an 
awful lot of money.
Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, 
claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so 
outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter 
movie.
I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I 
expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to 
have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

snip
That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

How do you account for all the temper tantrums Marshy had, especially when he 
lost court cases or one of his girlfriends ran off and left him?

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?
   
    Anger is not much good for anything, in my experience. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So we should all be calm little sheep? Its good for the liver to get that anger 
out every now and again.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 I have no idea whether "it" is true. What draws my attention is the boiling 
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant. 
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like 
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

if your assertions are true, how do you account for the fact that other members 
of the Indian TMO have accused Girish of fraud, manipulation, creating fake 
documents and selling off Movement lands in direct contravention of Marshy's 
wishes after his death? They are suing him over these illegal land grabs and 
land sales. 

  From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?
   
    yes I have rejected all your accusations with a sweep of my keyboard, 
Girish is not the leader of the movement, and all international monies going to 
India have been closely monitored for years, since not long after Maharishi 
passed, by Raja Harris Caplan. Those responsible for having let monies go to 
India without careful accounting don't have any financial responsibility or 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, I'm guessing that there are, what, maybe 200 people worldwide who accept 
as gospel that transcendental consciousness and the unified field* are the 
same. 

 There are maybe 2000 people worldwide who have considered it as a remote 
possibility,
 

 Same goes for Yagya technology.
 

 So, this is what "you" have chosen as "your" cause celebre and focus of your 
efforts to change the world?
 

 Ok.  Again, let me not judge, but it strikes me as an odd focus.
 

 * this assumes the reality of the unified field
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Heh, I just read your reply now Steve. It appears we agree on a lot of the 
points here. It's great to get all proactive on things but to say something, 
anything is "balderdash" is easy and requires nothing but having an alternate 
viewpoint. Big deal - most people have alternate viewpoints. But if that is the 
case back it up with real evidence to those who can make a difference and 
change things. Do more than talk to others who can't make a difference or who 
most likely already agree. Get out there, bring proof and expose it to the 
wider world. That is what people do who really want to make a change or reveal 
something or someone as a phony. Talk is very, very cheap - especially on 
internet forums. LOL

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
 View on www.freepressjournal.in 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.

 

 So, it's denial.  It's for him to work out, isn't it?
 

 It's a chat room. I'm chatting. Doug wrecked this place so we talk about him.
 

 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.

 

 You know, the audience is mostly grown adults, right?  Do I need to tell grown 
adults what they should, or should not believe?  I don't believe I should.
 

 Someones got to.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned physicist for 
instance, and claiming that science has discovered this or that when your 
beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in 
a Harry Potter movie.
 

 Well, again, he can claim anything he wants.  What is his sphere of influence? 
Rather small, I'd say.
 So, what is the problem?
 

 Who is being coerced to buy into any of it?
 

 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. 
 

 Okay, the movement claims that pure consciousness, and the yet to be 
discovered unified field are one, and therefore everyone has access to this " 
field of all possibilities"
 

 And you find this to be a dangerous concept that is worthy of being censored?
 

 And you, who are on record about being concerned with things that are wrong in 
the world, choose this as a priority.
 

 That strikes me as a little odd.  But so be it.
 

 Jesus I'm tired of explaining the same things to the sametrue  believers who 
decide that living in denial is a good idea.
 

 It's easier than thinking is all it is.
 

 

 From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from 
the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most 
from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say 
that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. 
 

 You know, of course, the movement is aging, rapidly.  There is not a large 
number of "core" participants.  Grown adults, in my book, are capable of buying 
into whatever philosophy or way of life they choose.  No one needs me to stand 
in judgement of what they may choose to believe.
 

 And for the great majority of even those "core" believers, they also, 
"take what they need, or want, and leave the rest".  I count many as friends, 
and they recognize fact from fiction.
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.
 

 It sounds to me that you have a desire impose your own values on those who you 
feel are being deluded, which is okay, I guess, except that for someone appears 
to be concerned with social activism, it's an odd area to focus on.
 

 But, maybe it's low hanging fruit, and serves other needs you might have.
 

 God almighty, you really do scrape the barrel to try and bolster yourself when 
someone pints out you are talking crap.
 

 Anyway you can get someone else to explain things to you, I'm outta here.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentle

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.

 

 So, it's denial.  It's for him to work out, isn't it?
 

 It seems to me we're seeing a different side to Doug.  Actually seeing quite a 
bit less, which I think is also revealing.
 

 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 My sphere of influence is rather small, but I do interact with a number of 
people each day.  And aside from routine matters of business, or grocery 
shopping, I try to say something, or do something, which I think may spark a 
new way of thinking about things.
 

 I've also discovered that being a good listener helps people process areas of 
difficulty.
 

 Admittedly, these are small accomplishments, if you want to call them that, 
but that is where I am in this regard.
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.

 

 You know, the audience is mostly grown adults, right?  Do I need to tell grown 
adults what they should, or should not believe?  I don't believe I should.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned physicist for 
instance, and claiming that science has discovered this or that when your 
beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in 
a Harry Potter movie.
 

 Well, again, he can claim anything he wants.  What is his sphere of influence? 
Rather small, I'd say.
 So, what is the problem?
 

 Who is being coerced to buy into any of it?
 

 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. 
 

 Okay, the movement claims that pure consciousness, and the yet to be 
discovered unified field are one, and therefore everyone has access to this " 
field of all possibilities"
 

 And you find this to be a dangerous concept that is worthy of being censored?
 

 And you, who are on record about being concerned with things that are wrong in 
the world, choose this as a priority.
 

 That strikes me as a little odd.  But so be it.
 

 From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from 
the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most 
from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say 
that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. 
 

 You know, of course, the movement is aging, rapidly.  There is not a large 
number of "core" participants.  Grown adults, in my book, are capable of buying 
into whatever philosophy or way of life they choose.  No one needs me to stand 
in judgement of what they may choose to believe.
 

 And for the great majority of even those "core" believers, they also, 
"take what they need, or want, and leave the rest".  I count many as friends, 
and they recognize fact from fiction.
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.
 

 It sounds to me that you have a desire impose your own values on those who you 
feel are being deluded, which is okay, I guess, except that for someone appears 
to be concerned with social activism, it's an odd area to focus on.
 

 But, maybe it's low hanging fruit, and serves other needs you might have.
 

 Heh, I just read your reply now Steve. It appears we agree on a lot of the 
points here. It's great to get all proactive on things but to say something, 
anything is "balderdash" is easy and requires nothing but having an alternate 
viewpoint. Big deal - most people have alternate viewpoints. But if that is the 
case back it up with real evidence to those who can make a difference and 
change things. Do more than talk to others who can't make a difference or who 
most likely already agree. Get out there, bring proof and expose it to the 
wider world. That is what people do who really want to make a change or reveal 
something or someone as a phony. Talk is very, very cheap - especially on 
internet forums. LOL
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 

 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 

 That works for him.
 

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 

 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 

 I think things are off to a great start.  
 

 Hmmm
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 

 Not what I meant
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 I'd have to second Steve here. There are so many things on this planet that 
are pure bunk and I'm pretty sure whatever one pseudo scientist says (if 
Hagelin is a pseudo scientist - I don't know enough about him or care enough to 
find out. But perhaps I have made this point very clear time after time: I 
don't follow what the Movement is doing and haven't for over 25 years and the 
only reason I know anything about it now is because people - most who claim to 
despise the Movement and most of those at the helm of it - talk about it ALL 
THE TIME HERE). Now, I like to make a beef about what I see as laughable or 
preposterous as well as the next guy but to continually try and change how 
people think or to get my proverbial knickers in a twist about it will change 
nothing if all one is doing is sitting at home and whining about it. Go to the 
press, stand out with a placard somewhere, create some intelligent expose that 
proves what these people, yagyas and all, are bullshit. DO SOMETHING! But 
mostly you're preaching to the choir here. Go out where you can make a 
difference and PROVE something. Until someone does this it is all just hearsay 
or opinion that neither party can back up.
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 

 Great, demonstrate it.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for 
instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs 
are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry 
Potter movie.
 

 Well, some people accept it just like some accept Jesus as their savior, some 
believe gluten is bad for them and others are convinced Black Sabbath was the 
greatest rock band on the planet. See, there's all kinds of crazy out there...
 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
 

 It's not coercion, it's just another attempt to sell a product. If watching an 
ad on TV or having friends encourage you to read a book or your TM teacher 
suggesting you wear rudraksha beads around your neck is coercion then you need 
to get a backbone. Coercion is being threatened by someone, with the power to 
actually enforce it, with losing your job or your right hand or your life if 
you don't pay $500 for a yagya.
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't char

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.

 

 So, it's denial.  It's for him to work out, isn't it?
 

 It seems to me we're seeing a different side to Doug.  Actually seeing quite a 
bit less, which I think is also revealing.
 

 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 My sphere of influence is rather small, but I do interact with a number of 
people each day.  And aside from routine matters of business, or grocery 
shopping, I try to say something, or do something, which I think may spark a 
new way of thinking about things.
 

 I've also discovered that being a good listener helps people process areas of 
difficulty.
 

 Admittedly, these are small accomplishments, if you want to call them that, 
but that is where I am in this regard.
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.

 

 You know, the audience is mostly grown adults, right?  Do I need to tell grown 
adults what they should, or should not believe?  I don't believe I should.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned physicist for 
instance, and claiming that science has discovered this or that when your 
beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in 
a Harry Potter movie.
 

 Well, again, he can claim anything he wants.  What is his sphere of influence? 
Rather small, I'd say.
 So, what is the problem?
 

 Who is being coerced to buy into any of it?
 

 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. 
 

 Okay, the movement claims that pure consciousness, and the yet to be 
discovered unified field are one, and therefore everyone has access to this " 
field of all possibilities"
 

 And you find this to be a dangerous concept that is worthy of being censored?
 

 And you, who are on record about being concerned with things that are wrong in 
the world, choose this as a priority.
 

 That strikes me as a little odd.  But so be it.
 

 From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from 
the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most 
from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say 
that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. 
 

 You know, of course, the movement is aging, rapidly.  There is not a large 
number of "core" participants.  Grown adults, in my book, are capable of buying 
into whatever philosophy or way of life they choose.  No one needs me to stand 
in judgement of what they may choose to believe.
 

 And for the great majority of even those "core" believers, they also, 
"take what they need, or want, and leave the rest".  I count many as friends, 
and they recognize fact from fiction.
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.
 

 It sounds to me that you have a desire impose your own values on those who you 
feel are being deluded, which is okay, I guess, except that for someone appears 
to be concerned with social activism, it's an odd area to focus on.
 

 But, maybe it's low hanging fruit, and serves other needs you might have.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being plac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 

 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 

 That works for him.
 

 How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something 
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
 

 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 

 I think things are off to a great start.  
 

 Hmmm
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 

 Not what I meant
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and 
can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better 
an awful lot of money.
 

 Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for 
instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs 
are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry 
Potter movie.
 

 I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it 
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the 
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start 
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the 
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually 
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt 
brilliantly too. 
 

 It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what 
I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts 
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's  con. I 
care about people I know being conned.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[feste37]

Anger is not much good for anything, in my experience. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So we should all be calm little sheep? Its good for the liver to get that 
anger out every now and again.
 

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
 
 
   I have no idea whether "it" is true. What draws my attention is the boiling 
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant. 
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea. 

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
 

 Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like 
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[srijau]

yes I have rejected all your accusations with a sweep of my keyboard, Girish is 
not the leader of the movement, and all international monies going to India 
have been closely monitored for years, since not long after Maharishi passed, 
by Raja Harris Caplan. Those responsible for having let monies go to India 
without careful accounting don't have any financial responsibility or authority 
any more.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Duveyoung]

Rama and Sita.  Doesn't matter if I'm wrong.  Girish is NOT LOVED in the 
Fairfield siddha communityask around.  He's a joke.  A marauder.  He's just 
fucking rude to take the reins of the movement and never even say "thank you" 
to us, the cash cow.  He's a thug.  And he's made fools of everyone who bought 
into his thievery. 

Meanwhile, you have ignored ALL THE OTHER ACCUSATIONS with a mere sweep of your 
keyboard -- as if, as fucking if.  The movement is a cesspool of fermenting 
egos drunk on their own toxicity, and that includes the innocent bliss ninnies 
who promote this con-game by their having been repeatedly in denial, each and 
every day, for an average of 45 years and having the result that they are stuck 
in a cult with a creepy leader who was taught by a master of deceit just how to 
pull off this massive fraud.  

Ain't no one who stayed young.   Ain't no one hovering.
Ain't no there there.

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 you don't have the slightest proof that Girish has any substantial amount of 
money at his disposal or for 99 percent of what you blather here, which is 
usually recycled unsubstantiated accusations from decades ago or nonsense that 
has been repeated here enough times that you and others like you imagine it has 
some meaning. You like a cartoon bot that spews any lame overblown rhetoric to 
defame. Not that it matters as I doubt anyone with intelligence gives credence 
to any of it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Girish is as big a piece of trash as his uncle was.

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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, 
financial and sexual criminal?
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[srijau]

you don't have the slightest proof that Girish has any substantial amount of 
money at his disposal or for 99 percent of what you blather here, which is 
usually recycled unsubstantiated accusations from decades ago or nonsense that 
has been repeated here enough times that you and others like you imagine it has 
some meaning. You like a cartoon bot that spews any lame overblown rhetoric to 
defame. Not that it matters as I doubt anyone with intelligence gives credence 
to any of it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I give people a lot of leeway in what they choose to believe, without me 
having to judge them as one thing or another.
 

 Yes, this is a pretty balanced-minded way to view the rest of the population 
of the world which, frankly, is going to differ in one way or another in what 
they believe from whatever you believe. How could we possibly hope to change or 
effect or control other people let alone continually get bent out of shape 
about it? No, impossible and mostly a waste of time and energy.
 

 But some on FFL prefer to stereotype others here and by doing so either jump 
to conclusions or fail to see the nuances of how individuals come to where they 
are in their beliefs. Lumping someone into some category is lazy thinking and 
many have been wantonly misrepresented here in order to create dissonance. 
What? We don't have enough dissonance in the world already? Huh? There isn't 
enough bloodshed, unhappiness and injustice in the real world for you that 
certain members needed/need to manufacture it here? Incredible.
 

 It seems to me that Doug has found a "seam" of gold amidst the coal that he 
chooses to mine, so to speak.
 

 How, or what, people are able to reconcile is their business.
 

 And against all odds, I find him the moderator of the group, and you take away 
the extremes on both ends of the spectrum (as has happened) and I'm pleased 
with the results.
 

 I hope the moderating will continue along the lines it has been going.
 

 At the risk of you accusing me of pandering, I find it difficult to watch John 
Hagelin discuss anything.
 

 Actually, I am okay with some of his theories, (I don't pay much attention to 
them), but rather it is the presentation that makes me cringe.  The voice 
inflections and expressions are quite a turn off.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I give people a lot of leeway in what they choose to believe, without me 
having to judge them as one thing or another. 

 It seems to me that Doug has found a "seam" of gold amidst the coal that he 
chooses to mine, so to speak.
 

 How, or what, people are able to reconcile is their business.
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 

 And against all odds, I find him the moderator of the group, and you take away 
the extremes on both ends of the spectrum (as has happened) and I'm pleased 
with the results.
 

 I hope the moderating will continue along the lines it has been going.
 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure.
 

 Funny that, two have been stopped from posting but I don't see too many 
abandoning ship as I had predicted to Rick privately when Doug was to take over 
the moderation of FFL. It actually amazes me that so many have stayed posting 
here. I think Xeno is just snoozing. He's only been asleep about 9 hours now.
 

 Without extremes and contrast you just get left with the banal middle ground 
and it stops new ideas getting discussed because they are unlikely to fit in 
with what the quiet majority wants and thinks to raise as topics itself. 
Everything slumps towards the safe boredom that drove Xeno away.
 

 I disagree, there are plenty of differing opinions here still. Remember, there 
are only two posters who are no longer allowed to post. Were they the only ones 
capable of "extremes"? Frankly, Edg is holding his own pretty good and he's 
great reading. You can't possibly be bored with him around. Engage him - see 
what happens. 
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 

 At the risk of you accusing me of pandering, I find it difficult to watch John 
Hagelin discuss anything.

 

 Actually, I am okay with some of his theories, (I don't pay much attention to 
them), but rather it is the presentation that makes me cringe.  The voice 
inflections and expressions are quite a turn off.
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...
 

 You sounded like an appeaser last week, staying quiet for the sake of a quiet 
life. That never ends well.

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and unt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He looks like the Indian version of Leonardo De Caprio with a mustache.  Is 
Edg jealous?
 

 I doubt it. If one can judge from a picture (and often one can not) he looks 
very arrogant. But then, I know nothing of all of this Movement drama and 
hardly know who Girish is. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Found it!

http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg

 
 View on www.maharishi.org.ua 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can't find the photo.  Looked, but it's too much work.  The photo showed 
Girish sitting down in a chair and above him on the wall were equally sized 
photos -- one of MMY and one of Girish.  

Fuckin' Girishonly grew his beard a while ago.  Faking poser.  Zero 
spiritual chops.  Would never dare show up in Fairfield.or, h, has he?  

But hell with the photowe know all what we need to know if he's going 
around calling himself by Vedic titles and never even bothering to say even, 
"Oh, hey, yeah, Maharishi gave me the movement, and I'm in Unity like Maharishi 
so I'm fucking holy and you should all suck my asshole now for the same kind of 
shit."

Yeah, I got rude and gross and icky.  Just trying to see where DOUG gets riled 
about this shit.

Doug?  I FUCKING TRIPLE DARE YOU TO SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT GIRISH and then 
try not mentioning the scandals he's produced.  

Anyone still in the movement who doesn't see Girish as AN IMPOSTOR should be 
braced about the issue.

Doug?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Where is this Photo of Girish on a wall?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

He looks like the Indian version of Leonardo De Caprio with a mustache.  Is Edg 
jealous?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Found it!

http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg

 
 View on www.maharishi.org.ua 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can't find the photo.  Looked, but it's too much work.  The photo showed 
Girish sitting down in a chair and above him on the wall were equally sized 
photos -- one of MMY and one of Girish.  

Fuckin' Girishonly grew his beard a while ago.  Faking poser.  Zero 
spiritual chops.  Would never dare show up in Fairfield.or, h, has he?  

But hell with the photowe know all what we need to know if he's going 
around calling himself by Vedic titles and never even bothering to say even, 
"Oh, hey, yeah, Maharishi gave me the movement, and I'm in Unity like Maharishi 
so I'm fucking holy and you should all suck my asshole now for the same kind of 
shit."

Yeah, I got rude and gross and icky.  Just trying to see where DOUG gets riled 
about this shit.

Doug?  I FUCKING TRIPLE DARE YOU TO SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT GIRISH and then 
try not mentioning the scandals he's produced.  

Anyone still in the movement who doesn't see Girish as AN IMPOSTOR should be 
braced about the issue.

Doug?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Where is this Photo of Girish on a wall?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And Girish has more than enough money to make all the accusation go away by 
bribing the police and politicians which is why he has not been tried and 
convicted already. 

  From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:28 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
   
    you are exxagerating , 
making unjustified accusations,
and  I never heard of any 20 witnesses of the rape claim, there is a  lot of 
problems with her claim. why would you allow these things to go on for 20 
years? there is a lot of intrigue around caste in India with still resentments 
by Brahmins against the TM movement for the Kayasthas having become the biggest 
employer of Brahmins. note the family names of the accusers. there are elements 
of Indian society that would not hesitate to put someone up to making a false 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So we should all be calm little sheep? Its good for the liver to get that anger 
out every now and again.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
   
    I have no idea whether "it" is true. What draws my attention is the boiling 
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant. 
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like 
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Duveyoung]

Me?  Exaggerate?  Me?  Why I never..you besmirch my integrity, Sir.

Pardon me for a 
secondah, there, I just 
name-called you inwardly enough so I didn't have to pollute this post with 
symbolic but truthful concepts about you.

But let me rub your nose in this again.

 Rama and Sita.  If Sita went to hell, the movement's good name and fame 
demands that Girish at least step down and then do everything to clear his name 
such that WE MINIONS OVER HERE DO NOT FALSELY ACCUSE.  See?  It doesn't matter 
if the masses are asses -- the group opinion trumps even the purity incarnate 
status of Sita.  

If you discount the purport of Rama's decision, then you must just reject about 
all of the Ved.  It's core.  Just sayin'.

The article said 20 witnesses, so I repeated the number.  Sue me.  It's about 
divine symbolism.  Get hep.

Meanwhile, no fair cherry picking my post...do you personally know the 
facts such that you can easily dispose of all the accusations about movement 
crimes that are now and have been peppering FFL posts all these years?  

This movement is TAINTED in the headlines with regularity.  ACTUAL Rapist 
psychiatrist, ACTUAL illegal convicted hustler Beckley, ACTUAL commodity 
scandal, ACTUAL campus murder scandal, ACTUAL serial rapist in the "dome 
house," ACTUAL indentured servitude of foreigners, ACTUAL Maharishi scandals, 
ACTUAL Girish scandals, ACTUAL MUM leaders' sex scandals, ACTUAL vile "it's 
real science" posturing, ACTUAL false promising of results, ACTUAL snake oil 
huxterisms for illegally smuggled drugs containing mercury, ACTUAL campus 
suicides, ACTUAL Kaplan scandal, and on and on and onAND YOU'RE 
THINKING I'M SILLY TO BE SUSPICIOUS?  

ACTUALLY?
 
This whole deal is saturated with ego maniacs, unrequited type-As, greed 
monsters, power lords, deluded ninnies, life-long suckers, sociopathic 
bureaucrats, pompous fucking kings, and rotten shitass fucktards who all 
pretend they're sane, moral, compassionate, spiritual, deep, and almost 
enlightened. 

And I self-blinkered it all away because I always thought that "the technique 
was pretty fucking good enough and let's just give ourselves some time to 
evolve"

.those days are passed.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 you are exxagerating , 
making unjustified accusations,
and  I never heard of any 20 witnesses of the rape claim, there is a  lot of 
problems with her claim. why would you allow these things to go on for 20 
years? there is a lot of intrigue around caste in India with still resentments 
by Brahmins against the TM movement for the Kayasthas having become the biggest 
employer of Brahmins. note the family names of the accusers. there are elements 
of Indian society that would not hesitate to put someone up to making a false 
claim against Girish.

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[srijau]

while there has been a lot of sexual misbehaviour from Gurus in India of late 
there has also been lots of false charges of different sorts too. Lots of 
intrigue in India including the ruling family of until recently, intrigue of 
all sorts that went on for decades. Illegal enrichment by the ruling family. 
Using security forces to beat Maharishi Pundits. False charges against other 
Shankaracharyas or Pontifs of Maths. don't believe everything you read just 
because the police brought charges.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[feste37]

"Your own mouth condemns you, and not I; your own lips testify against you." 
(Job 15:6)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have no idea whether "it" is true. What draws my attention is the boiling 
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant. 
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea. 

Heh. I wonder if your disdain is as poorly hidden when you use that mouth in 
real life.  Do you get, like, say, maybe ten punches in the nose per week?  Or 
are you actually a coward who'd never talk shit in the face of anyone on the 
street?  

Fuck your opinion up the ass with a two by four studded with rusty nails.

This is why I come here.  Where else can you find a clueless snot who so easily 
lends himself to my hobby of seeing how crass I can be and yet still beguile 
the reader to continue sucking down my vomit because it's about him and must be 
devoured?

I know you're still reading!  Heh.  Gunna get all upsy setsies now?

Aaaand shit, I forgot to capitalize something.  

Wanna have a contest to see whose history here contains the most positive life 
supporting inspiring uplifting sincere intimate and instructive statements?  
Ahem.  Afuckinghem.  

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
 

 Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like 
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
 View on www.freepressjournal.in 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[srijau]

you are exxagerating , 
making unjustified accusations,
and  I never heard of any 20 witnesses of the rape claim, there is a  lot of 
problems with her claim. why would you allow these things to go on for 20 
years? there is a lot of intrigue around caste in India with still resentments 
by Brahmins against the TM movement for the Kayasthas having become the biggest 
employer of Brahmins. note the family names of the accusers. there are elements 
of Indian society that would not hesitate to put someone up to making a false 
claim against Girish.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Duveyoung]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have no idea whether "it" is true. What draws my attention is the boiling 
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant. 
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea. 

Heh. I wonder if your disdain is as poorly hidden when you use that mouth in 
real life.  Do you get, like, say, maybe ten punches in the nose per week?  Or 
are you actually a coward who'd never talk shit in the face of anyone on the 
street?  

Fuck your opinion up the ass with a two by four studded with rusty nails.

This is why I come here.  Where else can you find a clueless snot who so easily 
lends himself to my hobby of seeing how crass I can be and yet still beguile 
the reader to continue sucking down my vomit because it's about him and must be 
devoured?

I know you're still reading!  Heh.  Gunna get all upsy setsies now?

Aaaand shit, I forgot to capitalize something.  

Wanna have a contest to see whose history here contains the most positive life 
supporting inspiring uplifting sincere intimate and instructive statements?  
Ahem.  Afuckinghem.  

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
 

 Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like 
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
 View on www.freepressjournal.in 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, a halo would improve. However, the one guy seems to have a gold teefie.

  From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 4:26 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial 
and sexual criminal?
   
    Found it!

http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Can't find the photo.  Looked, but it's too much work.  The photo showed Girish 
sitting down in a chair and above him on the wall were equally sized photos -- 
one of MMY and one of Girish.  

Fuckin' Girishonly grew his beard a while ago.  Faking poser.  Zero 
spiritual chops.  Would never dare show up in Fairfield.or, h, has he?  

But hell with the photowe know all what we need to know if he's going 
around calling himself by Vedic titles and never even bothering to say even, 
"Oh, hey, yeah, Maharishi gave me the movement, and I'm in Unity like Maharishi 
so I'm fucking holy and you should all suck my asshole now for the same kind of 
shit."

Yeah, I got rude and gross and icky.  Just trying to see where DOUG gets riled 
about this shit.

Doug?  I FUCKING TRIPLE DARE YOU TO SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT GIRISH and then 
try not mentioning the scandals he's produced.  

Anyone still in the movement who doesn't see Girish as AN IMPOSTOR should be 
braced about the issue.

Doug?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[srijau]

Its seems to be in his own office. You made out like it is at MUM, I suspect 
that was not honest, who cares what he does in his own office. I get facebook 
stuff from India movement, have not yet noted a lot of things that you are 
claiming... seems to be not accurate or perhaps even dishonest a lot of what 
you are claiming. No one at MUM has a duty to get frenzied about what is on a 
wall half a world away and are probably not even aware of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Well, it is summer. ;-)

Pitta tea base: 1 part fennel, 1 part coriander, 1 part cumin

On 06/30/2015 02:42 PM, feste37 wrote:


I have no idea whether "it" is true. What draws my attention is the 
boiling rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on 
another wild rant. It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need 
of some pitta-pacifying tea.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?

Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand 
like everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."


That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then 
next thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.


LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE 
MOVEMENT AND TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He 
stole it.


And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true 
believers believing ! -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys. 
 I'm looking at you DOUG.


Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me 
nauseous just to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and 
relentlessly intend on domination.


2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization 
has had a decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go 
unaccounted.  In lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to 
suspect Girish is a criminal instead of accepting him as an honest 
person.  He shows zero motivation to explain how and why he deserves 
his present position.  The TMO's books are vague, incomplete, and 
probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public accounting is made, 
no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be inspected.



3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say 
Girish raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.


Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering 
about her having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but 
Rama sent her to hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, 
have also been accused and/or convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO 
ignores these vile "blackeyes."


Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your 
fame.I'm your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose 
your field badges and your shit jobs at MUM."


Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 






image 




Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
 

Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: 
The police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of 
Maharishi Mahesh ogi Ved...


View on www.freepressjournal.in 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[feste37]

I have no idea whether "it" is true. What draws my attention is the boiling 
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant. 
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
 

 Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like 
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
 View on www.freepressjournal.in 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Found it!

http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/19_girishji.jpg 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can't find the photo.  Looked, but it's too much work.  The photo showed 
Girish sitting down in a chair and above him on the wall were equally sized 
photos -- one of MMY and one of Girish.  

Fuckin' Girishonly grew his beard a while ago.  Faking poser.  Zero 
spiritual chops.  Would never dare show up in Fairfield.or, h, has he?  

But hell with the photowe know all what we need to know if he's going 
around calling himself by Vedic titles and never even bothering to say even, 
"Oh, hey, yeah, Maharishi gave me the movement, and I'm in Unity like Maharishi 
so I'm fucking holy and you should all suck my asshole now for the same kind of 
shit."

Yeah, I got rude and gross and icky.  Just trying to see where DOUG gets riled 
about this shit.

Doug?  I FUCKING TRIPLE DARE YOU TO SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT GIRISH and then 
try not mentioning the scandals he's produced.  

Anyone still in the movement who doesn't see Girish as AN IMPOSTOR should be 
braced about the issue.

Doug?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Where is this Photo of Girish on a wall?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 I have not been a student of Doug's posting.  There was a lot of the "same", 
so I skipped over most of it.
 But, I think your assessment is a little severe.

 

 Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.

 

 That works for him.
 

 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 

 

 I think things are off to a great start.  I've stated my opinion about issues 
here more that you wish to hear. I believe the consensus is that the tone has 
changed, and it has been a change for the positive. 
 

 Without extremes and contrast you just get left with the banal middle ground 
and it stops new ideas getting discussed because they are unlikely to fit in 
with what the quiet majority wants and thinks to raise as topics itself. 
Everything slumps towards the safe boredom that drove Xeno away.
 

 I happen to disagree with your assessment.  Two elements are missing from the 
interactions, and I feel the dialog has, and will continue to benefit from it.  
Evidently, a difference of opinion we have here.
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable.  And I don't 
reveal too much.  But, I am responsible for  the livelihood of about twelve 
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I 
would  have theirs.
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...

 

 He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If 
people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine?  Is anyone 
being coerced to participate?
 

 You sounded like an appeaser last week, staying quiet for the sake of a quiet 
life. That never ends well.

 

 Not that I feel the need to defend myself, but there was a period when I was 
wholly dedicated to changing the world, first politically, and then through the 
technology of the unified field, aka, TM.  I threw myself wholeheartedly into 
that mission, but at some point, (and I remember distinctly), I changed.
 

 With regard to TM, or any spiritual path, I determined people will start that 
path when they are ready, and I gradually lost my enthusiasm along those lines.
 

 My efforts now are focussed on smaller goals.  Trying to be a good parent, a 
good spouse, a good employer, and engaging in small acts of kindness when those 
opportunities arise.
 

 All the while feeling, in many ways, that my own personal development 
stretches me all the time.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Duveyoung]

Can't find the photo.  Looked, but it's too much work.  The photo showed Girish 
sitting down in a chair and above him on the wall were equally sized photos -- 
one of MMY and one of Girish.  

Fuckin' Girishonly grew his beard a while ago.  Faking poser.  Zero 
spiritual chops.  Would never dare show up in Fairfield.or, h, has he?  

But hell with the photowe know all what we need to know if he's going 
around calling himself by Vedic titles and never even bothering to say even, 
"Oh, hey, yeah, Maharishi gave me the movement, and I'm in Unity like Maharishi 
so I'm fucking holy and you should all suck my asshole now for the same kind of 
shit."

Yeah, I got rude and gross and icky.  Just trying to see where DOUG gets riled 
about this shit.

Doug?  I FUCKING TRIPLE DARE YOU TO SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT GIRISH and then 
try not mentioning the scandals he's produced.  

Anyone still in the movement who doesn't see Girish as AN IMPOSTOR should be 
braced about the issue.

Doug?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Where is this Photo of Girish on a wall?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I give people a lot of leeway in what they choose to believe, without me 
having to judge them as one thing or another. 

 It seems to me that Doug has found a "seam" of gold amidst the coal that he 
chooses to mine, so to speak.
 

 How, or what, people are able to reconcile is their business.
 

 Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
 

 Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the 
other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles 
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the 
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it 
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
 

 

 And against all odds, I find him the moderator of the group, and you take away 
the extremes on both ends of the spectrum (as has happened) and I'm pleased 
with the results.
 

 I hope the moderating will continue along the lines it has been going.
 

 You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all 
that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on 
TV tonight? Go figure. 
 

 Without extremes and contrast you just get left with the banal middle ground 
and it stops new ideas getting discussed because they are unlikely to fit in 
with what the quiet majority wants and thinks to raise as topics itself. 
Everything slumps towards the safe boredom that drove Xeno away.
 

 What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and 
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something 
about it?
 

 

 At the risk of you accusing me of pandering, I find it difficult to watch John 
Hagelin discuss anything.

 

 Actually, I am okay with some of his theories, (I don't pay much attention to 
them), but rather it is the presentation that makes me cringe.  The voice 
inflections and expressions are quite a turn off.
 

 The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with 
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more 
attention...
 

 You sounded like an appeaser last week, staying quiet for the sake of a quiet 
life. That never ends well.

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[srijau]

Where is this Photo of Girish on a wall?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I give people a lot of leeway in what they choose to believe, without me having 
to judge them as one thing or another. 

 It seems to me that Doug has found a "seam" of gold amidst the coal that he 
chooses to mine, so to speak.
 

 How, or what, people are able to reconcile is their business.
 

 And against all odds, I find him the moderator of the group, and you take away 
the extremes on both ends of the spectrum (as has happened) and I'm pleased 
with the results.
 

 I hope the moderating will continue along the lines it has been going.
 

 At the risk of you accusing me of pandering, I find it difficult to watch John 
Hagelin discuss anything.
 

 Actually, I am okay with some of his theories, (I don't pay much attention to 
them), but rather it is the presentation that makes me cringe.  The voice 
inflections and expressions are quite a turn off.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Duveyoung]

 Girish sure as fuck put up his photo and took down Maharishi's -- how the fuck 
do you ACCEPT THAT?  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Edg, 

 If what you say is true, 
 

 1.  Raja Nader should be notified of Verma's failure to follow TM spiritual 
guidelines.
 

 2. The IRS should be notified for Verma's unreported income or theft from the 
TMO.
 

 3. The police should be notified for Verma's rapes of women to the police.
 

 If none of these was done, perhaps Verma didn't do any of the things he's 
accused of.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
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http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Well we *could* have discussed the binary model of the intellect as 
applied to AI but instead folks chose to jump on the idea we might be 
leaving impressions from our brains (possibly from vibrating calcium 
particles) into some realm science knows little about.  No real 
scientist would disregard the theory because there is currently no way 
of knowing whether it is true or not.  It could well be a possibility.  
It would explain how people who have lost part of the brain might still 
function normally.  We really don't know much about how the human brain 
works.


It might just be more honest for someone to say they just don't like the 
idea.


On 06/30/2015 10:59 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?

First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you 
appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.


Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

snip


That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we 
remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he 
has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of 
looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad 
mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic.






Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me 
nauseous just to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and 
relentlessly intend on domination.


2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization 
has had a decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go 
unacco! unted.  In lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to 
suspect Girish is a criminal instead of accepting him as an honest 
person.  He shows zero motivation to explain how and why he deserves 
his present position.  The TMO's books are vague, incomplete, and 
probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public accounting is made, 
no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be inspected.



3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say 
Girish raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.


Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering 
about her having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but 
Rama sent her to hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, 
have also been accused and/or convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO 
ignores these vile "blackeyes."


Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your 
fame.I'm your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose 
your field badges and your shit jobs at MUM."



He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects 
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and 
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's 
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is 
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many 
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
 

 And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded 
scary to me.
 

 And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he 
might do that as well.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
 

 First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear 
to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
 

 Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 snip
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

 

 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/

 
 
 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 
 Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/
 Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The 
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh 
ogi Ved...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
 

 Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like 
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  
 

 I think it's a bit more likely that Marshy put him in charge. He's bee running 
the Indian side of it for years.
 

 And I doubt that theft means a lot to the people who run the TMO, they've been 
ripping people off with crap yaga's and supposedly magical powers for decades. 
Do you really think John Hagelin believes a word he says when he's standing up 
and talking about string theory and prayers? He's lying or delusional, possibly 
both.
 

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.
 

 Doug loves his little daydream that the world is evolving towards perfection 
because of him and his mates sitting in the dome every day. You can't really 
expect people who have so much of their lives invested in it to actually 
question what's happening? Where would it end!
 

 That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him 
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding 
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed 
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of 
the fanatic.
 

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."
 

 He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Edg, 

 If what you say is true, 
 

 1.  Raja Nader should be notified of Verma's failure to follow TM spiritual 
guidelines.
 

 2. The IRS should be notified for Verma's unreported income or theft from the 
TMO.
 

 3. The police should be notified for Verma's rapes of women to the police.
 

 If none of these was done, perhaps Verma didn't do any of the things he's 
accused of.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I think you've covered all the bases on this Edg. 

 I suspect the Western arm of the movement will either further separate from 
the Indian arm, or insist on control.
 

 Not sure how else it can play out.
 

 A great embarrassment, and I feel a measure of sorrow for my friends who are 
still active.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?

[feste37]

Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil."
 
That's the issue to debate.

I'll take the affirmative position.  

My arguments:

1.  Spiritual criminal.  With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his 
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next 
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

LIKE FUCKING WHY?  We are given NOTHING.  He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND 
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos.   HE DIDN'T EARN IT.  He stole it.  

And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this.  Not true believers 
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys.  I'm looking at you 
DOUG.

Or, if you prefer an emotional argument:  This sick fuck makes me nauseous just 
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on 
domination.

2. Financial criminal.   The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a 
decades-long history of crimes.  Large amounts of money go unaccounted.  In 
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal 
instead of accepting him as an honest person.  He shows zero motivation to 
explain how and why he deserves his present position.  The TMO's books are 
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public 
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be 
inspected.

 
3.  Rapist.  The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish 
raped a woman.  END OF STORY.  Girish should resign.  

Why?  Because:  Rama and Sita.  

Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her 
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued.  FALSELY, but Rama sent her to 
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a 
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or 
convicted of sexual crimes.  Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."  

Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.I'm 
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and 
your shit jobs at MUM."

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