[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:46 PM, raunchydog wrote: snip You raised a phony generalization about women haters in order to attack me personally and you did so while knowing nothing about who I love or who loves me, or what I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
Ruth the Race- baiter The repetition of this term kind of reminds me of what is happening to Obama. I remember the little dust-up that lead to this charge. I remember you guys differing in your opinion. But with all Ruth's contributions to FFL, is this characterization really fair? Do you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-11-01 Thread Vaj
On Nov 1, 2008, at 12:40 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: So I'll speak up now. This term is a mean-spirited,unnecessary, gratuitous, personal attack, meant to slander a valued contributor to FFL. Ruth is neither racist or race-baiter and whatever your disagreements with her, she does not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruth the Race- baiter The repetition of this term kind of reminds me of what is happening to Obama. Yes, he's a race-baiter too. I remember the little dust-up that lead to this charge. I remember you guys

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 1, 2008, at 12:40 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: So I'll speak up now. This term is a mean-spirited,unnecessary, gratuitous, personal attack, meant to slander a valued contributor to FFL. Ruth is neither racist

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because you chosed the safe mainstream it gives you no right to critizise. Safe and mainstream? What do you think I do for a living Nabby? Playing hillbillymusic in bars. I have a right to judge

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
Safe and mainstream? What do you think I do for a living Nabby? Playing hillbillymusic in bars. No, on every point. I had 17 shows last month and one was in a bar. I wont try to straighten you out on the style of music I am spending my life preserving. But claiming a fulltime artist

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Safe and mainstream? What do you think I do for a living Nabby? Playing hillbillymusic in bars. No, on every point. I had 17 shows last month and one was in a bar. I wont try to straighten you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
And I believe your are fool. Attacking the person rather than what he said. Nice touch Nabby, very enlightened. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Safe

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I believe your are fool. Attacking the person rather than what he said. Nice touch Nabby, very enlightened. I simply gave you up curtis because you seem totally stuck in a very old fashioned way of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: And I believe your are fool. Attacking the person rather than what he said. Nice touch Nabby, very enlightened. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: And I believe your are fool. Attacking

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as your points on the importance of women's rights, of course I agree. I'm sure if I was a woman I would be the first to call people on sexist language for its own sake, not because it has been linked to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Vaj
On Oct 29, 2008, at 3:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as your points on the importance of women's rights, of course I agree. I'm sure if I was a woman I would be the first to call people on sexist language for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: I would think any woman who is serious about women's issues would want to join me in condemning these two men. Did you condemn these two men when you were selling the mantras for the Marshy? Why wait until now, some thirty years after you first joined the cult? If I felt

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. You just compounded your error by calling the women here a sexist name. In fact, there aren't any Femi-nazis on this forum - you lied,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Vaj
On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. You just compounded your error by calling the women here a sexist name. In fact,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: Sexist language is a dickish move. Why does every conversation you join have to come back to the subject of your dick and their breasts? I always thought you were crazy but now I can see your nuts - zip up your pants and get a grip on yourself, and stop being so anal retentive,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
if you and curtis held yourselves to the same standard as you hold the Maharishi, Guru Dev and Shakara, you would have nothing to say. easy to take pot shots at a word or phrase here and there to make your point when you don't stand behind your own thoughts and actions as diligently. glass

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you and curtis held yourselves to the same standard as you hold the Maharishi, Guru Dev and Shakara, you would have nothing to say. easy to take pot shots at a word or phrase here and there to make your

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
what I meant was that you have written volumes here Mr B. and has curtis, and if taken to task for each and every thing you have said, you would find yourself a very poor comparison to those you easily denigrate. if you will not rigorously call bullshit on yourself, you have no business

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what I meant was that you have written volumes here Mr B. and has curtis, and if taken to task for each and every thing you have said, you would find yourself a very poor comparison to those you easily

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you and curtis held yourselves to the same standard as you hold the Maharishi, Guru Dev and Shakara, you would have nothing to say. easy to take pot shots at a word or phrase here and there to make your

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what I meant was that you have written volumes here Mr B. and has curtis, and if taken to task for each and every thing you have said, Two words: Judy Stein. Don't worry this base is covered here. Her

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
i am not trying to shoot you. i am curious though what it is you are arguing against. hitler aside-- i think we can all agree he was pretty much a complete asshole-- i am curious what point you are making with Shankara and GuruDev and the Maharishi. is it that you think everyone else here sees

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread TurquoiseB
I'm not Curtis, but I will reply, because these are issues that interest me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am curious what point you are making with Shankara and GuruDev and the Maharishi. is it that you think everyone else here sees

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip i am curious what point you are making with Shankara and GuruDev and the Maharishi. That their traditions promoted a negative view of women that has gone mostly unchallenged. That some spiritual traditions have gotten a pass on views that most modern people agree are contemptible. is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: If you extend the comparison to Maharishi, neither Curtis nor I ever extorted huge sums of money from their followers for projects that were never built. Neither Curtis nor I ever claimed to be celibate while sneaking women to our rooms and screwing them. Neither Curtis nor

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
hey thanks for all of what you have written. i always appreciate and often enjoy the if you see the buddha on the road, kill him perspective; I am advocating looking at them without the taboos of protection these guys often get. excellent! as for the Maharishi what do i think of him? not a lot

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey, thanks for hitting the ball back and continuing the discussion. That is what the place is all about IMO. i like what the Maharishi said many times that we need to know who we are before knowing what anyone or anything else is. Didn't this seem more profound when we were young and didn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
the many assumptions you are making about my thinking and values aside, this enlightenment=perfection thing is fascinating. i cannot think of a single action anyone on the planet could perform without at least one person objecting to it. i am not equivocating the actions of an enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, thanks for hitting the ball back and continuing the discussion. That is what the place is all about IMO. i like what the Maharishi said many times that we need to know who we are before knowing what

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
some people have real hot buttons when it comes to spiritual/religion. wanted to know more about yours is all. thanks again. I would like to elevate hot buttons to my personal philosophical cause. I am just as sincere in my belief that ancient spiritual beliefs keep mankind in ignorant

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
I am just as sincere in my belief that ancient spiritual beliefs keep mankind in ignorant bondage...-- taking what Tat Wale Baba said about world peace being essentially a state created inside first and then reflected outside, i am curious about this expression of yours. i am not picking on

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Sometime it takes an online conversation some time to find its way. Thanks for hanging in there. Your post has some very thoughtful ideas I would like to consider. In particular I appreciate your open minded tone. That encourages conversation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. You just compounded your error by calling

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip i am curious what point you are making with Shankara and GuruDev and the Maharishi. That their traditions promoted a negative view of women that has gone mostly unchallenged. What negative views ?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Vaj wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. They seem most likely to be women without current male relationships-- at

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometime it takes an online conversation some time to find its way. Thanks for hanging in there. and thank you as well. Your post has some very thoughtful ideas I would like to consider. In particular I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread yifuxero
-imperfect world, true: On December 2, 1974 as he went to take his bath at 4:00 a.m., Sri Tat Wale Baba was murdered by a crazy gunman. I soon had learned of the incident from a friend. I wondered about the facts surrounding this crime, and why somebody would want to kill Tat Wale Baba. I had

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Vaj wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -imperfect world, true: On December 2, 1974 as he went to take his bath at 4:00 a.m., Sri Tat Wale Baba was murdered by a crazy gunman. I soon had learned of the incident from a friend. I wondered about the facts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread Vaj
On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:46 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'. They seem most likely to be women

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: -imperfect world, true: On December 2, 1974 as he went to take his bath at 4:00 a.m., Sri Tat Wale Baba was murdered by a crazy gunman.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some said it was karma for his past service in the military. who knows? *** TWB was only in the military two months, unlikely to have accumulated much karma, unless you are counting some past life (not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Just because you chosed the safe mainstream it gives you no right to critizise. Safe and mainstream? What do you think I do for a living Nabby? I have a right to judge and criticize Guru Dev for sending a message to women that they were not allowed to be in his presence. It was a nasty

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread enlightened_dawn11
thanks for the website. i've seen it before but had forgetten about it. dreds! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: some said it was karma for his past service in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: I guess the Fairfield Life Femi-nazis never heard the saying 'when you point a finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you'.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whoa- hold up there, pardner-- I agree with you regarding that creepy call, but the thinking was deranged vs. Guru-love scriptures who have very clear physical threats against speaking against the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a story in the Shrimad Bhagavatam about Indra, the king of the demigods, who seduced his guru's wife. When the guru found out about this insult, he cursed Indra to have thousands of vaginas all over Indra's body.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used them now and then when a guy has been swinging his dick around. It's a little sexist to make fun of men's protectiveness toward their genitals when they've been enthusiatically waving them about, but it's not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
Judy wrote: Lawson and I led the charge against Skolnick, but many others did their part. He nearly went nuts because he couldn't get away with anything. Read more: http://tinyurl.com/6prvs8 Author: Lawson English Subject: No apology here Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
I'd recommend watching A Clockwork Orange for behavior mod. enlightened_dawn wrote: ouch! Barry has a lot of money and psychic energy invested in the worship of gurus. He says it's all worth it and he has only harsh words for former cult members who speak out against the likes of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip You claimed that you and Raunchy had death threats hurled at you. I said misogynistic vomit, including death threats, had been

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread authfriend
Willytex, you've just justified your existence. That is a *fabulous* find. I'd forgotten all about this thread. It's worth reading the whole thing; it puts the flamewars here to shame, in both style and substance. It's mostly a knock-down, drag-out flame-duel on alt.m.t between Barry and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've remarked before on the moral and ethical vacuity of FFL. That vacuum has now become almost total. ETHICAL VACUITY Dripping dark ink Pen of groupthink Willing herds trample To set an example Playing the game Blame

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
I gave two, both from one post of Barry's. Last, hopefully, point on this for those who haven't been following it closely enough to recognize how grossly it's been distorted by Barry and his minions. I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions (another good rock band

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Last, hopefully, point on this for those who haven't been following it closely enough to recognize how grossly it's been distorted by Barry and his minions. I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions (another good rock

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions (another good rock band name). A death threat is a very different kind of communication than wishing someone was dead and saying so. I was originally concerned that such a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: If such a treat had been made Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit. Will you please get out of this Halloween mode? Things are scary enough around

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:33 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: If such a treat had been made Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit. Will you please get out of this Halloween mode? Things are scary enough around here as it is. Interestingly,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
Judy wrote: Willytex, you've just justified your existence. Classics from the a.m.t. grooveyard! That is a *fabulous* find. I'd forgotten all about this thread. It's worth reading the whole thing; it puts the flamewars here to shame, in both style and substance. It's mostly a knock-down,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread yifuxero
---Looks like you're onto something!. Also Willytex, that book on Kashmir Shaivism that you recommended is excellent. Thanks. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy wrote: Willytex, you've just justified your existence. Classics from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave two, both from one post of Barry's. Last, hopefully, point on this for those who haven't been following it closely enough to recognize how grossly it's been distorted by Barry and his

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions You did your part, Curtis. And you're doing more of it now. I have distorted nothing by asking you to back up your claim of a death threat. Shooting the messenger doesn't work with me. snip After quite a bit of tap

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
fwiw, Dickhead almost sounds like a Jethro Tull song, only it also sounds unfinished. Rather than being just another Barry bashing song (which would be like so last week...), why not just make it a diatribe against self-centeredness and isolation? something like: ego is as ego does slander

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:53 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: If such a treat had been made Uh, oh, Curtis, there you go again, doggonnit. Will you please get out of this Halloween mode?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I hope you are not including me among the distorting minions You did your part, Curtis. And you're doing more of it now. I have distorted nothing by asking you to back up your claim of a death

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
We are in agreement that Olbermann's comment was way out of line. I wasn't playing along with Barry, I was the first person to bring the question up. What we consider nitpicking is different. I don't follow your feud with Barry too closely and miss many posts between you, so I was genuinely

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are in agreement that Olbermann's comment was way out of line. We are not in agreement about *why* he was out of line. We are not in agreement that his remark was irrelevant to this current controversy because

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any woman who wants to fight men for political power had better get off the sexist claims real fast if they want to be taken seriously. This is one good reason why women should object to sexist language, its

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Any woman who wants to fight men for political power had better get off the sexist claims real fast if they want to be taken seriously.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip I wasn't playing along with Barry, I was the first person to bring the question up. You most certainly were not; Barry was. He had already made three hysterical posts, and several other people had also weighed in, before you had said a word. You came in very much in the middle. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As far as your points on the importance of women's rights, of course I agree. I'm sure if I was a woman I would be the first to call people on sexist language for its own sake, not because it has been linked

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread raunchydog
The only thing that has certainly died around here is the dead horse you have been beating. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be sure, and that no one missed my request because it was buried at the bottom of a thread they weren't reading, I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread authfriend
Given Barry's frequent insistence that nothing he says is to be taken seriously, I'm sure he'll agree that he doesn't intend the following to be taken seriously either. In the same spirit, I'll say right up front that nobody should take my dissection of his poll seriously. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread raunchydog
Of course, Barry wants to be taken seriously. Why else would he rig a poll in his favor? Imagining he has won his argument, and runs a vigorous victory lap around the forum with his stuffed ballot box in tow before anyone has even bothered to vote, he pretends disparately that someone cares while

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Note also that Barry has never dealt with *my* definition of a death threat. Mine and his are quite different, as he knows. A further note on this, because it's really the heart of the dispute. First, note that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be happy to explain how I was using the term death threats and why Barry's finely crafted definition and his humor excuse don't apply, if anybody is interested. Do tell. I doubt anyone will be, and that's fine,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
I'll be happy to explain how I was using the term death threats and why Barry's finely crafted definition and his humor excuse don't apply, if anybody is interested. I doubt anyone will be, and that's fine, except in that case, they aren't in a position to have an opinion on whether my

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that has certainly died around here is the dead horse you have been beating. I will take that as a big No, I do not agree that a death threat was made on FFL against Judy Stein, and also a No that you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread enlightened_dawn11
from what I can tell this whole Barry-Judy dynamic is both childish and toxic. nothing to be gained or learned from either one when they are in this mode. seems like both of them are trying to prove to the other, and this forum, that each is superior; trying to solve the problem at the level

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be happy to explain how I was using the term death threats and why Barry's finely crafted definition and his humor excuse don't apply, if anybody is interested. I doubt anyone will be, and that's

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from what I can tell this whole Barry-Judy dynamic is both childish and toxic. nothing to be gained or learned from either one when they are in this mode. Says enlightened_dawn11 before having read (because I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: from what I can tell this whole Barry-Judy dynamic is both childish and toxic. nothing to be gained or learned from either one when they

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is the context i was talking about- the context is that you and Mr. B are trying to convince each other, yourselves, and those on this forum of the superiority of your respective positions. This is not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread authfriend
For the record, ed11, you haven't been around long enough to realize that Barry's tirade in this post represents his *fantasy* image of me, not the real person, nor the person most perceive me to be on this forum. What he describes of himself is also a fantasy image, one he hopes others will

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip When I left the movement (probably after some article came out with my opinion of the movement) I got a message on my phone machine (remember them!) that said: Nature will silence you! Although it does have a sinister vibe and was creepy, I don't think a movement person

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: from what I can tell this whole Barry-Judy dynamic is both

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you read anything from me suggesting that I felt physically threatened by what Barry said, Curtis? Yes, it was the claim of a death threat. Which, by the way, fits the legal definition of slander. Judy

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm taking my own poll: How many here believe that Barry wants his poll to be taken seriously? Anybody? Buehler? Nothing that fellow writes is to be taken seriously as he is only venting his frustration of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:18 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be happy to explain how I was using the term death threats and why Barry's finely crafted definition and his humor excuse don't apply, if anybody is interested. Do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:46 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Anyway Judy I would like to hear how Turq's statements seemed like death threats to you. They aren't, this whole thing is just made up nonsense because Barry won't interact with Judy any more. Judy's FOAD, said to both Rick and me, is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: So I'm taking my own poll: How many here believe that Barry wants his poll to be taken seriously? Anybody? Buehler? Nothing that fellow

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When I left the movement (probably after some article came out with my opinion of the movement) I got a message on my phone machine (remember them!) that said: Nature will silence you! HaHa,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip When I left the movement (probably after some article came out with my opinion of the movement) I got a message on my

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: So I'm taking my own poll: How many here believe that Barry wants his

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip When I left the movement (probably after

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Believability Poll: Round Three

2008-10-27 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:46 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Anyway Judy I would like to hear how Turq's statements seemed like death threats to you. They aren't, this whole thing is just made up nonsense because

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