Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Vaj wrote: Of course no one's asking society to sanitize all traditions and strip out references to God or whatever. That's not the point at all. It might behoove you to look into the origins of the USA and look at why the founding fathers, based on previous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-26 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: It's a religious technique that invokes gods and goddesses and worships a guru as a god--it therefore violates the separation of church and state--there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread grate . swan
Does it upset you when you are a guest at a sumptuous meal and the host offers grace before the meal. I may be shallow, but I focus on the meal and not on my hosts particular beliefs or traditions. And I don't somehow feel tainted or duped. Thanksgiving. Is that a religious holiday? Am I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Most of the puja is blatantly religious. For example, the puja contains the traditional shodashopachura pujana - the puja of 16 offering. The puja of 16 offering is common in Hindu worship as a way to receive or connect to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:37 AM, grate.swan wrote: Does it upset you when you are a guest at a sumptuous meal and the host offers grace before the meal. I may be shallow, but I focus on the meal and not on my hosts particular beliefs or traditions. And I don't somehow feel tainted or duped.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread grate . swan
Another thought on this. We live in a pluralistic society and laudably multi-culturalism and the appreciation of diversity in other culture is increasingly celebrated. Where I work, a large company, the daily e-mail newsletter celebrates and explains every major religions and cultural

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:53 AM, do.rflex wrote: In my teacher training course, Maharishi explained that in essence, the initiator 'becomes' Guru Dev when the mantra is imparted from that deep level and given to the initiate. It's a very gentle and sublime, but powerful experience. For me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Another thought on this. We live in a pluralistic society and laudably multi-culturalism and the appreciation of diversity in other culture is increasingly celebrated. Where I work, a large company, the daily e-mail

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:07 AM, grate.swan wrote: Another thought on this. We live in a pluralistic society and laudably multi-culturalism and the appreciation of diversity in other culture is increasingly celebrated. Where I work, a large company, the daily e-mail newsletter celebrates

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:37 AM, grate.swan wrote: Does it upset you when you are a guest at a sumptuous meal and the host offers grace before the meal. I may be shallow, but I focus on the meal and not on my hosts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:37 AM, grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Does it upset you when you are a guest at a sumptuous meal and the host offers grace before the meal. I may be shallow, but I focus on  the meal and not on my hosts particular beliefs or traditions. And I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Does it upset you when you are a guest at a sumptuous meal and the host offers grace before the meal. I may be shallow, but I focus on the meal and not on my hosts particular beliefs or traditions. And I don't somehow feel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: It's a religious technique that invokes gods and goddesses and worships a guru as a god--it therefore violates the separation of church and state--there are a host of other issues such as with charging the taxpayers 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: Does it upset you when you are a guest at a sumptuous meal and the host offers grace before the meal. I may be shallow, but I focus on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: Another thought on this. We live in a pluralistic society and laudably multi-culturalism and the appreciation of diversity in other culture is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:20 AM, grate.swan wrote: Thanksgiving. Is that a religious holiday? Am I being secretly taught a religion if I take the holiday off, and eat a thanksgiving meal? Who were the pilgrims offering thanks to? Oh my God! It was God! Run! I don't celebrate Thanksgiving as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: This shifting of the topic from teaching TM IN the schools to a general discussion of religious diversity and appreciation of multiculturalism is missing my positive appreciation of the religious nature of Maharishi's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:34 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Thanksgiving. Is that a religious holiday? Am I being secretly taught a religion if I take the holiday off, and eat a thanksgiving meal?  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread emptybill
In India the students used to perform a puja to their teacher, sometimes at the beginning of long vacation breaks and sometimes at the beginning and ending of the school year. I don't know how it is done now but I doubt that this traditions has continued much, except in village life. It always

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:34 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Actually your riffs are typical of Bill O'reilly and the Christian right with a anyone who dares speak out about Christianity not being shoved down the throats of non Christians. You would enjoy his rap around Easter and Christmas when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: Another thought on this. We live in a pluralistic society and laudably

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: This shifting of the topic from teaching TM IN the schools to a general discussion of religious diversity and appreciation of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious aspects of the TM puja; Connecting to the Guru God

2009-03-25 Thread Kirk
It is my deeply inquiring mind that brings up such grand questions. No offence meant, as Kirk would say. ---Woohoo, a shout out from Ireland. You go Boy!