$200/30 = $6.66 per day.
They also get room and board.
Assuming that a minimum wage person spends about 50% of his income on room and
board, that $200 + room and board is about 3-6x the minimum wage for someone
living in India.
They're not business workers living in the USA. They
Current TM initiations are higher than they have been since the Merv Griffith
days. The pprice of TM instruction has been lowered 36% for adults, and down to
$360 for ages 10-18, and full-time college students, at least through May 31,
2014.
http://www.tm.org/fee http://www.tm.org/fee
Depending on which button or option I used to reply, there may or may not be a
show history button, or there may be an inline list of all text without a
button, or there may be no text at all.
John Haglein is now Raja John Hagelin, in charge of the TMO for North
America.
I was arguing with someone in reddit.com about TM finances and looked at the
IRS form 990 records for various TM-related organizations.
John is paid $37,000 as President of the DLF. He gets another $36,000 for
A few nits with that eview:
1) it only examined clinical populations, so the effect of meditation on
stress levels on normal people was not evaluated
2) it only looked at psychological test results, with one exception: weight
loss, which no meditation practice affected in clinical
Meanwhile you're still lying about the pandits, and pretending that they get
paid $200 per month. They do not. They get paid $50 a month, with the other
$150 going to the parents who sold them into this program in the first place.
They never see a penny of it. Therefore they are paid $1.66 per
Well, in order to be able to reliably notice more subtle aspects of perceptual,
emotional and thinking reality, you need to have some level of quietude in the
background.
Otherwise, how can you tell if what you are perceiving is subtle, or just
noise?
L
Just following up on your apologetics, Lawson, if you persist in saying that
the 20+ year old pandits in America are free to make their own legal decisions,
I suggest that you are ignoring two important issues:
1. Many of them have been in the program and behind barbed wire since they
were
It's a mess. And the text from some posters don't show up at all, only the
first part of the first sentence. Unfortunately that does not apply to some of
the most heavy unstressers on this forum :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
Depending on which button or
I have no desire to have a sphere of influence - but gimme the chance to give
these new initiates a lecture of my own and we'll see what we will see. A nice
look at David Wants to Fly would be a good start.
On Fri, 3/21/14, steve.sun...@yahoo.com
So are you saying that there is a medical conspiracy to exclude TMresearch?
More likely regular scientists and researchers recognize that the research on
TM isn't worth including in their studies since the research is highly flawed
- the only people who say differently are the TM people and the
And Marshy got paid nothing on paper, yet he was worth billions - you think
these lying asses are above hiding their assets?
On Fri, 3/21/14, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Hurt Community, Bevan Morris Role
Michael, do you object to people learning TM and simply doing that? Also I
think you do want a sphere of influence because you've said you want to get TM
out of the schools etc. How is that not wanting a sphere of influence?!
On Friday, March 21, 2014 6:10 AM, Michael Jackson
Richard, I finally got what your main complaint is with turq: he said he and
others saw Lenz levitate many times and yet turq thinks the TMSP is a scam. Is
that it in a nutshell?
I starting to realize that most of us have some cognitive dissonance somewhere
in our thinking. Maybe it's just
I bet they'll find ways around whatever new rules are created
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/sports/peta-videos-prompt-new-york-and-kentucky-to-investigate-horse-trainers.html
Google translation from Finnish (Seppo Tanhua, Blacksmith Widefield):
19/03/2014
Putin's finger on the trigger ( 7/10/52 , Leningrad )
Many of the wishes of fanfare I did Vladimir Putin astrological chart and get
scared !
His astrological natal Sun is half a degree of the end of April precise
turq, at least 2 things we don't know: we don't know if they were fenced in
from the get go, when they were 6 to 8 years old; we don't know if all the boys
had to be forced by their families to join the program. It's possible that some
of them genuinely wanted to.
But if, to repeat my opinion,
Not if you ask my daughter...Hey, Ann, I recall hearing, years ago, that those
doing TM had a physiological age 7 years younger than their physical age, and
for TMSP it was 11 years, I think. I am regularly mistaken for someone in his
40's, although I turn 60 in just a few months. I never feel
I said what I said.
The reviewers chose to only look at clinical populations and counted a study
that found significant effects on physical aspects of stress to be a no
effect study because the experimental group was already low anxiety and tested
low again after the subjects had been
Christ never preached anything which would direct the people to go to hell and
burn themselves in order to burn the sins. The sins should be burned away and
the sinner should be saved ! Meditation is that fire which really burns the sin
and doesn’t burn the sinner.
-Maharishi, 1959
Who says he was worth billions? A newspaper?
Catch a clue, dear. Barry just gets into this manure, in order to distract
attention from his fairly serious emotional issues. You can obviously play
along, for fun, but please don't be taken in by his feigned passion for this
topic. Just a smokescreen he can use, to hide from himself.
Now,
It's real simple Egg. Just click on show history button. No need to study
it, or dissect it. Just click on it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
Depending on which button or option I used to reply, there may or may not be a
show history button, or there may be
Ann, right, they seemed like rhetorical questions to me which means they were
meant to make a point rather than evoke a response.
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:02 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Excellent news - Given what infomercials charge for vitamins and a CD, the TM
price doesn't seem so out of line. Besides, after boosting it to $2500 a few
years ago, anything else is going to look really affordable - excellent
marketing. I am glad people are again noticing the benefits of the
Feste, if I recall correctly, you said the pundit program should be ended and
that it was a mistake to begin with. Why do you feel it was a mistake from the
beginning?
MJ
I remember coding legal documents for the case of GTE vs. ATT, in the 80's, one
of the cases that led to the deregulation of the telecomm industry. This is the
trade off; corporations operating as unregulated utilities, with profits more
important than ongoing services. Oops.
---In
Hey, MJ, good morning, and allow me to sashay right into the middle of this -
I think this whole pundit riot (PR for short), which was *very tame* by
international standards, was a good thing.
It woke up the administration, like nothing else would have, and publicized the
program - as the
Barry's apologetics for his negative spin on the pandit program involve making
a distinction between legal freedom and psychological freedom. While the
distinction is valid on its own terms, the case that while the pandits are
legally free to make their own decisions, they aren't
I am in a chatty mood, and this is just the kind of grounded and practical
advice, we don't need around here, 7th ray.
C'mon, where's the speculation, straw-man arguments, political views,
interpolation of the minds, of the very Yahoos that coded this?? I personally
think the whole issue with
Actually, I think you are right in everything you said. And as odd as it may
seem to some here, I am willing to believe that folks doing things in their
awareness can work seeming miracles. If Anita Moorjani can eliminate her many
tumors in 11 days after coming out of a coma, then most anything
Sort of sounds like you're building a pretty iron clad case. The reports I've
seen indicate that most of the pundits seem happy with the arrangement. But I
guess what you are saying that they are too brain washed to know otherwise.
It sounds like a program would not serve your needs, but
I don't know, but neither do you, and neither do any of the people supporting
this program. Where did the reports you cite come from? The TM movement will
not allow any of the actual pandits to be interviewed. Even if they did, would
they/could they tell the truth, if Girish's organization
He's building an iron-clad case based on conjecture and mind-reading.
Sort of sounds like you're building a pretty iron clad case. The reports I've
seen indicate that most of the pundits seem happy with the arrangement. But I
guess what you are saying that they are too brain washed to know
The pandits get paid $200 per month. Lawson isn't lying or pretending. The
families wouldn't be receiving $150 per month if their sons weren't earning it,
and it's sophistry to claim otherwise.
Meanwhile you're still lying about the pandits, and pretending that they get
paid $200 per
It's being a total cultist to claim that they *are* getting $200. They are
getting $50 per month. That is the only money they will ever see, if they ever
even see that, except as credits at the company store. The other $150 goes
to the parents who sold them into this program when they were
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, right, they seemed like rhetorical questions to me which means they were
meant to make a point rather than evoke a response.
No, I was curious about your thoughts. You evidently don't have any answers or
don't want to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
$200/30 = $6.66 per day.
They also get room and board.
Assuming that a minimum wage person spends about 50% of his income on room and
board, that $200 + room and board is about 3-6x the minimum wage for someone
living in
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Just following up on your apologetics, Lawson, if you persist in saying that
the 20+ year old pandits in America are free to make their own legal decisions,
I suggest that you are ignoring two important issues:
1. Many of them
A few additional minor comments on Barry's apologetics:
1. Many of them have been in the program and behind barbed wire since they
were minors as young as 8,
Barry has no idea whether the Indian program puts the pandit boys behind
barbed wire.
After having been indoctrinated in TM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Meanwhile you're still lying about the pandits, and pretending that they get
paid $200 per month. They do not. They get paid $50 a month, with the other
$150 going to the parents who sold them into this program in the first place.
The pandits get paid $200 per month. Lawson isn't lying or pretending, and
I'm not being a total cultist to say so. As noted, the families wouldn't be
receiving $150 per month if their sons weren't earning it, and it's not just
spinning but the purest sophistry to claim otherwise.
---In
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Not if you ask my daughter...Hey, Ann, I recall hearing, years ago, that those
doing TM had a physiological age 7 years younger than their physical age, and
for TMSP it was 11 years, I think. I am regularly mistaken for
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
It's being a total cultist to claim that they *are* getting $200. They are
getting $50 per month. That is the only money they will ever see, if they ever
even see that, except as credits at the company store. The other $150 goes
I would say the real loser is the poor substance abuser. They're very unlikely
to get out of their poverty while abusing drugs or alcohol. Kind of hard to
soar like an eagle while wallowing in the mud. I don't have any objection to
anyone choosing to wallow in that mud, just don't expect me,
Judy, yes, I think I know why turq said he had gone over the top but since I
don't mind read, I'm not 100% sure.
BTW, I have been equating demonizing with thinking someone is all bad. They're
not two separate items for me.
Now again, I don't mind read, so when I think someone is demonizing a
Good point, Mike, and I'd add that we're all losers in this situation, as in a
mind is a terrible thing to waste, or better, a fellow human being is terrible
to lose.
On Friday, March 21, 2014 9:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:
I would say the real loser is the poor
On 3/20/2014 11:13 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
No, I was talking to you Richard.
The thread is about Barry and 2nd stage flying - I'm just a basic TMer,
I'm not a believer in the TMSP or levitation.
I was simply wondering whether or not you thought you might be, or
might have been,
On 3/20/2014 11:25 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
You really got Emily questioning your mental health today. Good work.
I'm beginning to question her mental health too. Do you think Emily
really believes Rama could levitate?
Maybe I'm the only informant that doesn't believe in the TMSP.
On 3/21/2014 1:01 AM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
$200/30 = $6.66 per day.
They also get room and board.
Assuming that a minimum wage person spends about 50% of his income on
room and board, that $200 + room and board is about 3-6x the minimum
wage for someone living in India.
They're
I'm just passing this along for whomever might appreciate it. These photos
bring up strong memories for me, of my first trip to Paris, in that year. I was
15, and traveling there with my parents and two younger brothers. The little
hotel we stayed in had tiny rooms, so my two younger brothers
On 3/21/2014 1:11 AM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
Depending on which button or option I used to reply, there may or may
not be a show history button, or there may be an inline list of all
text without a button, or there may be no text at all.
Get out of Neo as soon as you can, Lawson, and get
Judy, Ann telling me that there are no gangs on FFL is simply her opinion,
neither the truth nor a lie. So actually you're lying about me. Plus you maybe
had a senior moment when you said that I didn't say what I meant by nice when I
actually did!
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:34 AM,
Judy, sinking to a new low, wrote about people she has had zero contact with:
For all we know, his family approves of and encourages his despicable
behavior on FFL...Maybe Barry wouldn't live with them if they weren't as rotten
as he is.
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:00 AM,
BT. Did you really think you were going to get away with that excuse,
Share? Shame on you.
You can be 100 percent sure of what someone has said in a post by reading the
post. No mind-reading required.
So the answer to my question is either No, I don't remember why he said he'd
No, Share, it's the truth. There are no gangs on FFL. That's a fact, not an
opinion. You are lying when you say there are.
And you didn't say in this post what you meant by nice, liar.
Judy, Ann telling me that there are no gangs on FFL is simply her opinion,
neither the truth nor a lie. So
My very point Share! When we, as tax payers, subsidize that lifestyle, we
become enablers and partially responsible for their actions, like the parent of
a 200 pound five year old. He just won't stop eating and he eats all the wrong
foods!
On Friday, March 21, 2014 7:34 AM, Share Long
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From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others
who might feel special
Judy, sinking to a new low, wrote about people
And Share continues to lie. For all we know and Maybe are the appropriate
terms for speculating about people whom one has had zero contact with. Share
doesn't know Barry's family is nice any more than I know they're as
despicable as Barry is.
And notice that Share was unable to comment on
Sez Barry, inadvertently providing proof of my speculation about his family.
Judy, sinking to a new low, wrote about people she has had zero contact with:
For all we know, his family approves of and encourages his despicable
behavior on FFL...Maybe Barry wouldn't live with them if they
Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you
considered taking up a hobby?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of FFL PostCount
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count
My informants say that Richard has nothing to do on the cemetery where he lives
in Texas but post incessantly to a tiny chat group called FFL. Go figure.
From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some here complain about meditation
programs they don't practice
Apparently by law, the pundits are allowed to only work part-time,
Non sequitur, Mike. I think you're well aware of the statistics on who gets
imprisoned for small amounts of marijuana. It's poor black people, way out of
proportion to the number of people who possess those same small amounts. So
you're going to need to rethink your story about the prison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6OL4KCM2Wo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6OL4KCM2Wo
But if you did say Cultists, you'd be wrong, of course.
Apparently by law, the pundits are allowed to only work part-time, twenty
hours per week.
I think we all know that Richard made this up, but even assuming it were true,
that would mean that the pandits are paid less than 63
Judy, imo *for all we know* and *maybe* are the kind of terms you use when you
want to suggest something negative about someone. I think you are the FFL
master at this kind of negative innuendo and indirect demonizing.
On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com
Nice find !
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I'm just passing this along for whomever might appreciate it. These photos
bring up strong memories for me, of my first trip to Paris, in that year. I was
15, and traveling there with my parents and two younger
Hey, geeze! Where ya been?
My informants say that Richard has nothing to do on the cemetery where he
lives in Texas but post incessantly to a tiny chat group called FFL. Go figure.
We're waiting for you to rush in and correct my math, and point out that it
was based on being paid $50 per month, and not the $200 you know it really
is, and that therefore they're being paid a generous $2.50 per hour, and that
you're perfectly OK with that, while the TMO charges tens of
..the flower beating of the day
Ah, but you should hear Hagelin sing (chant); he's worth every penny.
And he sends $392 of that back to his grandmother in Florida.
“The power of an intention is the square of the number of people thinking the
same thought at the same time.”
John in Hagel
Right on - yes, I recall your picture and you look far younger. Agree with all
that you say - I never think about my age, well almost never - yet each day
brings so much freshness and life, it is difficult to believe, we are actually
aging.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, Ann telling me that there are no gangs on FFL is simply her opinion,
neither the truth nor a lie. So actually you're lying about me. Plus you maybe
had a senior moment when you said that I didn't say what I meant by nice
chuckling for about a minute here, Mr. Danda, thank you.
Happy Spring or Autumn depending whereupon thou art (-:
On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:52 AM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
..the flower beating of the day
Ah, but you should hear Hagelin sing (chant); he's worth every
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, sinking to a new low, wrote about people she has had zero contact with:
For all we know, his family approves of and encourages his despicable
behavior on FFL...Maybe Barry wouldn't live with them if they weren't as rotten
We all pick up on different things, don't we? My information comes from the
original reports in which many of the pundit boys were quoted as saying that
they were embarrassed by the incident, and that it ran contrary to why they
were there. You can look up the original article if you want. I
Thanks for replying - yeah, it is hard to tell if those entrenched, we are
simply better than you attitudes will change, but happy to see the dirty
laundry flapping out the window for a change.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Actually, I think you are right in
I never said I was perfectly OK with it. You are hallucinating again, as well
as reiterating your sophistry about what the pandits are actually paid.
For the third time now: I have no reason to believe the pandit program is
valuable in terms of furthering world peace. Whether it's of value to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Share Long sharelong60@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others
who might feel
Ann, you just had a senior moment when you thought that post was to you! It was
to Judy. As for my definition of nice, if you scroll down, you'll find it.
On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:57 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In
Yup, now all they need is a late night huckster doing back end ad spots
on cable television saying order now for only $240 (muted voice) and
with three additional monthly payments of $240. Call now, operators are
standing by. This offer only good for the first 5 callers.
Kinda puts the TMO
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Share Long sharelong60@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Share Long sharelong60@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re:
Steve, just to butt in here and make the point again that imo to force someone
to create world peace is a contradiction in terms and shouldn't be done, even
if it's parents doing that to their young children. I think such a program
should only have volunteers. Otherwise it's flawed at the core.
I think he's found his hobby as a cyber graffiti artist. Post count via
Yahoo account name:
Start Date (UTC): 2014-03-15 00:00:00
End Date (UTC): 2014-03-22 00:00:00
927 messages as of (UTC) 03/21/14 16:09
197 serious_richard
100 authfriend
68 turquoiseb
67 sharelong60
63 doctordumbass
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Ann I don't know what you mean be *the lying thing.*
On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, sinking to a new low, wrote about people she has had zero contact
I am speculating, Steve, based on experience, both with Indians, and with the
TM movement.
No one who has ever worked for the TM movement for room and board plus course
credit and then had that course credit taken away on a whim by Maharishi
because his cash flow was low will ever believe
You completely missed the point--or pretended to, so you could say bad (and
untrue) things about me, more likely.
But boy, my speculation turned out to be on the nose if Barry was telling the
truth in his last post to you. His family does approve of and encourage his
bad behavior, which
The flower beating of the day:
Ah, but you should hear Hagelin sing (chant); he's worth every penny. And he
sends $392 of that back to his grandmother in Florida.
“The power of an intention is the square of the number of people thinking the
same thought at the same time.”(John in Hagel)
On 3/21/2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
Notice anything about this post count?
Yes, I noticed that you didn't respond to a single message I posted in
over ten years, even on my birthday. Go figure.
But, I've been pretty busy down here, what with the San Antonio Stock
Show Rodeo and
On 3/21/2014 10:28 AM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com wrote:
My informants say that Richard has nothing to do on the cemetery where
he lives in Texas but post incessantly to a tiny chat group called
FFL. Go figure.
What would living in Texas have to do with posting incessantly to a tiny
chat group?
Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
Thanks Richard! Just curious. I'm going to take a mental health day as it is
sunny outside and I hope you do too - actually, you might think about taking a
mental health week or two, given the number of monkeys that have been flying
out your ass.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Share, I doubt Richard has been kicked off - no need to defend him. Look at
his post count Share - pay attention to what Rick was suggesting.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to
FFL
Emily, maybe you should pay attention to what Richard has written about his
life here! It seems very full to me. As for what I do or don't *need* to do, go
figure!
On Friday, March 21, 2014 12:20 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com
emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Share, I doubt Richard has been
A, Share, what *are* you talking about? I never said anything about his
life. My opinion is that you don't need to come to his defense for a
suggestion from Rick that he take note of his post count - after all, it was
over double that of anyone else. Hm.kind of makes you feel for
This guy has just become the most adored husband on the Internet.
http://digg.com/video/adorable-time-lapse-of-pregnancy-is-also-a-man-playing-a-song-to-his-wife
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