[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-06 Thread off_world_beings
Burlingtons great, and Waterbury is an up and coming place. And everywhere else in the world is downhill from Vermont.:-) Off --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in the Boston area now, but I was born in Burlington, at the UVM hospital. My

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-06 Thread Peter
My sister lives just north of Montpelier in Mooretown, VT. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Burlingtons great, and Waterbury is an up and coming place. And everywhere else in the world is downhill from Vermont.:-) Off --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-06 Thread ysoy10li
- Nice memories of Vermont! I went to high school in Saxton's River, then lived in a college TM-dorm in Plainfield (Goddard College).Became a teacher of you-know-what through Goddard under-graduate programs, eventually transferring to MIU, in Goleta...except that last minute

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:23 PM, sparaig wrote:em•pa•thy Pronunciation: (em'pu-thç), [key]  —n.  1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of  the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.  2. the imaginative ascribing to an object, as a natural object or  work of art,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor, persecuted Vaj. How could he *not* feel a sense of kinship with poor, persecuted Andrew? Innocent as the day is long, both of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: In any other context

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread authfriend
Barry, this is *Lawson* you're talking to, for heaven's sakes. He's been on alt.m.t at least as long as you or I. He knows what's gone on there. What on earth were you thinking to try to lay this delusional rap on him? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread mrsatva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 2:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't askyou to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, this is *Lawson* you're talking to, for heaven's sakes. He's been on alt.m.t at least as long as you or I. He knows what's gone on there. What on earth were you thinking to try to lay this delusional rap on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrsatva" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So if I limit myself to the occasional cheap shot about her dried-up pussy, count yourself lucky. It's much better than me going

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread gullible fool
What's wrong with this guy's spelling? Write the exact same thing he just said in German and we'll ask him to critique your spelling. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread gullible fool
First of all I think what you mean't to say is: It was me who posted it - gullible fool Nope, it wasn't me. By the way, you misspelled meant. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 6:35 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with this guy's spelling? Write the exact

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all I think what you mean't to say is: It was me who posted it - gullible fool Nope, it wasn't me. By the way, you misspelled meant. Not where I come from. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread gullible fool
Not where I come from. Vermont? If so, we come from the same place. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all I think what you mean't to say is: It was me who posted it -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not where I come from. Vermont? If so, we come from the same place. Nah, I just live here. Where in Vermont are you from? --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-05 Thread gullible fool
I live in the Boston area now, but I was born in Burlington, at the UVM hospital. My mother grew up in Waterbury and I lived the first two weeks of my life there and spent lots of vacation time there growing up. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Peter
--- Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies not in some sort of objective criteria we can all agree upon. These allegations of sexual advances and/or acts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: In any other context than dumping on me or another committed TMer (as I've observed before in similar contexts), Barry would insist that behavior is not an indication of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies not in some sort of objective criteria we can all agree upon. I think that the point is that, as always, those who don't like the message try to call into question the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: In any other context than dumping on me or another committed TMer (as I've observed before in similar contexts), Barry would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip From what Rick has said, a large portion of MMY's secretaries not only have had sex with him but have mentioned it to him or have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: In any other context than dumping on me or another

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip From what Rick has said, a large portion of MMY's secretaries

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
Do you *never* get tired of this nonsense, Barry? You mean you can't even accept an apology graciously? If Judy's posts, or anyone else's, bother you so much, why not just delete them? I know, I could do the same with yours, but the steady stream of insults for the last half-dozen posts or so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
Or a politician. Or a faculty member at MUM. Sal On Dec 4, 2005, at 9:28 AM, anonymousff wrote: Gotcha posts are focussed on showing that the poster is dumb, perverse, a rogue, and liar, and/or a hypocrite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 3:25 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I thought you mean't what is considered a credible quote. Obviously something that is gossip and is not published cannot be considered to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 3:25 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I thought you mean't what is considered a credible quote.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 2:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't askyou to doubt a friend, but I DO ask you to wonder why they bother talking about it to you? Is it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debate as focussed on ideas. If there is some incorrect fact or logic, or one disagrees with presumptions of the poster, its all fine and good to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Gotcha posts are focussed on showing that the poster is dumb,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2005, at 12:41 PM, anonymousff wrote:Its far more than tone. Its primarily focus. Gotcha posts focus on personal attacks. Debate focusses on futhering the understanding of ideas. Exactly. And it has to do with intent, though admitedly that is not always easy to discern clearly and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2005, at 12:41 PM, anonymousff wrote: Its far more than tone. Its primarily focus. Gotcha posts focus on personal attacks. Debate focusses on futhering the understanding of ideas. Exactly. And it has to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread TurquoiseB
You are manifesting the bitchy aspect of the Yonified Field. I think her Yoni dried up and withered away in disgust decades ago; it certainly wasn't being used for anything. :-) U! Low blow, low blow. Deduct two points from Turquois. For some reason, Barry has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies not in some sort of objective

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are manifesting the bitchy aspect of the Yonified Field. I think her Yoni dried up and withered away in disgust decades ago; it certainly wasn't being used for anything. :-) U!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2005, at 12:41 PM, anonymousff wrote: Its far more than tone. Its primarily focus. Gotcha posts focus on personal attacks. Debate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Jason Spock
Could ithave something to do with the Brain structure.?? More White matter than Grey matter.??OriginalMessage- From: "Robert Gimbel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 00:54:56 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man reve

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/3/05 11:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 3:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, they're quite private, even secretive. Maharishi isn't people. But WHY do they talk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/3/05 11:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what Rick has said, a large portion of MMY's secretaries not only have had sex with him but have mentioned it to him or have publicised it in some way. I didn't say anything of the sort (boy, it's a good thing I read a few of your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/4/05 12:07 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He had no female secretaries. That is the point. So you are obscurely making the point that he did not have sex? That you heard Rick say that M had sex with female secretaries says alot about your cognitive processes -- and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/4/05 10:33 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 3:25 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
I am certain, *postive,* in fact, that I heard someone who heard it from someone who heard it from someone else...that Colonel Mustard and Miss Scarlet had sex in the parlor. Sal On Dec 4, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 12/4/05 12:07 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/4/05 10:33 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: In any other context than dumping on me or another committed TMer (as I've observed before in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2005, at 12:41 PM, anonymousff wrote: Its far more than tone. Its primarily focus. Gotcha posts focus on personal attacks. Debate focusses on futhering the understanding of ideas. Exactly. And it has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I consider that site a badge of honor. If anyone wants to pick up something from it about me they consider particularly damning and post it here, I'll be happy to provide the facts. Me 2, though his inability to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 11:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what Rick has said, a large portion of MMY's secretaries not only have had sex with him but have mentioned it to him or have publicised it in some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I consider that site a badge of honor. If anyone wants to pick up something from it about me they consider particularly damning and post it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2005, at 8:24 PM, sparaig wrote:Don't forget to check the "doormouse" references to moi on that site.  That you feel empathy towards *Skolnick* of all people, speaks  volumes about you, Vaj... I don't recall saying I felt empathy for this person.  To subscribe, send a message to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/4/05 7:34 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, misunderstood who said what and did what with whom. And now we're to believe that the women just casually bragged about the sex they'd had? That's groupie talk, IMHO. I don't think it was casual. Probably, in time, the enormity of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For but one informative site, check out: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ Unfortunately, it only scratches the surface. Don't forget

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2005, at 8:24 PM, sparaig wrote: Don't forget to check the doormouse references to moi on that site. That you feel empathy towards *Skolnick* of all people, speaks volumes about you, Vaj... I don't recall

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
That doesn't answer the question, Rick. At what point do their stories become believable--after college? Graduate school? How about during graduate school? And does it matter if they are getting a Ph.D or an MA? How about a teaching certificate? And what about if they happen to be highly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Vaj
On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:23 AM, authfriend wrote: Still think there's any ambiguity about what he meant? Actually Rick encapsulated my overall meaning very accurately. Yes there were sexual indiscretions--spiritual incest--but there are other perverse things as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/2/05 10:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were these women highly educated and established in professional

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:23 AM, authfriend wrote: Still think there's any ambiguity about what he meant? Actually Rick encapsulated my overall meaning very accurately. Yes there were sexual indiscretions--spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/2/05 10:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread TurquoiseB
There are times when being On The Road and thus unable to check FFL regularly is a real blessing. I've been back in Santa Fe, gazing at beautiful sunsets and sunrises (enjoying one of the latter at this very moment, outside the windows of this WiFi cafe), having wonderful conversations with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Vaj
My god, you actually save this stuff from months ago? I'm sorry, that's just plain strange. On Dec 3, 2005, at 8:54 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:23 AM, authfriend wrote: Still think there's any ambiguity about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jews killed Jesus and Maharishi killed Guru Dev...so what's the problem? ...Yeah. And after you have placed your first fragment of evidence on the table, kindly link him to JFK or Pricess Di. It'd make a more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times when being On The Road and thus unable to check FFL regularly is a real blessing. I've been back in Santa Fe, gazing at beautiful sunsets and sunrises (enjoying one of the latter at this very moment,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My god, you actually save this stuff from months ago? I'm sorry, that's just plain strange. Uh, no, these quotes are from the Google archive. That's why, you know, I provided the thread title for anyone who wanted to see them

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Vaj
On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: In any other context than dumping on me or another committed TMer (as I've observed before in similar contexts), Barry would insist that behavior is not an indication of spiritual development. You are manifesting the bitchy aspect of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/2/05 11:33 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a woman to gossip about a former relationship, whether with a president or a guru or the kid next door, shows an ax to grind. The women I'm referring to haven't gossiped. Have not spoken about it publicly. Probably don't feel like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are times when being On The Road and thus unable to check FFL regularly is a real blessing. One month ago, our fiber optic line was sliced by a backhoe, and it, too, has been a real blessing. With my online time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Speaking of cognitive dissonance... Thank goodness there are other posters here like Tom and Rick and Vaj [snip] And we all know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed I dont know if this is a significant topic, since most TM teachers are well-educated and from middle or upper class families, but the point was (I think) that were not talking about topless dancers here. OK, now that will start

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
Quite right and delicious points sal. I think Rick may be on the perverbial slippery slope here. As might we all. I vaguely nodded when Rick wrote his first reply -- educated, professional women -- etc, yes, credible types I thought. But to whom is the distiction being made? Educated,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/3/05 10:57 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, yes, following on to Sal's thought, tell us Rick (and all -- my self included) at what degrading level of education, profession and social standing does a woman become not credible -- compared to the ascending crown of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Speaking of cognitive dissonance... Thank

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don¹t know if this is a significant topic, since most TM teachers are well-educated and from middle or upper class families, but the point was (I think) that we¹re not talking about topless dancers here. OK, now that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 10:57 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, yes, following on to Sal's thought, tell us Rick (and all -- my self included) at what degrading level of education, profession and social standing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jews killed Jesus and Maharishi killed Guru Dev...so what's the problem? You have it backwards, Guru Dev killed Maharishi. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread L B Shriver
Response below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 3, 2005, at 10:57 AM, anonymousff wrote: But to whom is the distiction being made? Educated, professional women, are generally honest? Compared to what group of women who are generally less so? Trailer trash? Redneck women? Walmart employees? The stereotypes of personality traits one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
A nice brush-off, Rick, but it still doesn't answer the question, about these particular women, not about TMers in general. If you don't want to, okay. That's pretty much of an answer in itself, which is apparently all the answer we will get. Sal On Dec 3, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed on 12/3/05 12:24 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A nice brush-off, Rick, but it still doesn't answer the question, about these particular women, not about TMers in general. If you don't want to, okay. That's pretty much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Response below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Here is the context: And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 3, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Peter wrote: I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies not in some sort of objective criteria we can all agree upon. Exactly. These allegations of sexual advances and/or acts by MMY are believed by some and denied by others. I don't doubt them. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Peter
I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies not in some sort of objective criteria we can all agree upon. These allegations of sexual advances and/or acts by MMY are believed by some and denied by others. A lot of it has to do with our own concept of what and who MMY is to us. Frankly,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/3/05 1:02 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies not in some sort of objective criteria we can all agree upon. These allegations of sexual advances and/or acts by MMY are believed by some and denied by others. A lot of it has to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/2/05 10:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: In any other context than dumping on me or another committed TMer (as I've observed before in similar contexts), Barry would insist that behavior is not an indication of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/2/05 11:33 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a woman to gossip about a former relationship, whether with a president or a guru or the kid next door, shows an ax to grind. The women I'm referring

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] If I may be permitted a small digression: the term spiritual incest cannot be correctly understood by exactly parsing its constituents. It has a special meaning which applies most clearly in the cult context. You have argued against

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite right and delicious points sal. I think Rick may be on the perverbial slippery slope here. As might we all. I vaguely nodded when Rick wrote his first reply -- educated, professional women -- etc, yes, credible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/2/05 6:55 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe, but don't forget that Krisna in mythology had 16,000 wives. http://www.pantheon.org/articles/k/krishna.html Oh, and regarding todays

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 1:02 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies not in some sort of objective criteria we can all agree upon. These allegations of sexual advances

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed

2005-12-03 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] If I may be permitted a small digression: the term spiritual incest cannot be correctly understood by exactly parsing its constituents. It has a special

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