[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that "we" know more > than > > "they" do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on >

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The campus itself went stapathya Vedic and now there are like 100 > students occupying a 200 acre campus, 2 acres per student. > > It's a ghost town, soon it will resemble a Hindu Ghost Town, nice > buildings run by sk

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > And the news for those who would go into an orgy of delight if MUM > folded is . > > . . it ain't gonna happen. For those who live in Fairfield, go t

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
I got a good laugh out of this, especially your comment, "Since the advent of Stapathya Veda the place reminds me of a Madame > Blavatsky convention, a bunch of aged dour looking people." Have you been to Annapurna dining hall recently, Anon? I think you might be surprised at what you find ther

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread anonyff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And the news for those who would go into an orgy of delight if MUM folded is . > . . it ain't gonna happen. For those who live in Fairfield, go take a look at the > new construction going on there. MUM is in a growth

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that "we" know more than > "they" do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on campus about > why they are there, you will get almost as many answers as there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Sure, it's just great, Feste. When are you moving there? :) Sal On Mar 14, 2006, at 10:23 AM, feste37 wrote: Rick sounds like the Bush Administration, wanting to "liberate" subject peoples. Has it occurred to anyone on this board that peopleĀ  who live at MUM might actually enjoy the experi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 10:51 AM, feste37 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that "we" know more than > "they" do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on campus about > why they are there, you will get almost as many answers as there are people. > Everyon

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread anonyff
The bulk of the people who have chosen to remain in FF, after pretty much having severed their ties to the MIU/MUM way of life are anything but Plain Folks. Following Lady Saints (not that there's anything wrong with that), doing fire yagyas and the like, and the myriad host of other types of spi

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
It's the same way of thinking, though. The idea that "we" know more than "they" do about what's good for them. If you talk to people on campus about why they are there, you will get almost as many answers as there are people. Everyone has their own reasons. Instead of talking about people needin

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick sounds like the Bush Administration, wanting to "liberate" subject > peoples. Has it occurred to anyone on this board that people who live at > MUM might actually enjoy the experience? That's why they live there!

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd start saying bye-by

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread feste37
Rick sounds like the Bush Administration, wanting to "liberate" subject peoples. Has it occurred to anyone on this board that people who live at MUM might actually enjoy the experience? That's why they live there! May heaven save us from self-appointed "liberators." --- In FairfieldLife@yah

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 9:48 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> 2) it would be very sad for Fairfield if MUM went away, don't you >> agree? > > Not really. Might be good for it. Something more "interesting" may take over the university. Fairfield is well established as an eclectic spiritual comm

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > I'd start saying bye-bye to MUM if I were you. If they > > > lose a multi-million-dollar

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > I'd start saying bye-bye to MUM if I were you. If they > > lose a multi-million-dollar lawsuit in addition to > > having no students, I'd bet that Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:>> > > > > > > > > H

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > PErhaps because they DID screw up, to some extent? > > > > > > What "perhaps"?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/14/06 1:50 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just *think* how many similar tragedies within the > TM movement will get to come out in this lawsuit. > Ya got the suicides on TM courses, ya got the guy > burning himself to death after having been locked > away in a basement room. No

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:07 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > I don't know Joel, but it's very possible that he's > > > like some people here and convinced that he was "not > > > the doer" in this whole scenario and thus bears no

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > PEr

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > PErhaps because they DID screw up, to some extent? > > > > > > What "perhaps"?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:07 AM, authfriend wrote: > > I don't know Joel, but it's very possible that he's > > like some people here and convinced that he was "not > > the doer" in this whole scenario and thus bears no > > responsibility for it whatsoever. > > Amazing. Barry's *still* getting "not t

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread defenders_of_bhakti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > I could easily have been guilty of the same negligence > > > Joel Wysong dis

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > I could easily have been guilty of the same negligence > > Joel Wysong displayed while watching the guy. I suspect > > he was in the other room medi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-14 Thread Vaj
On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:41 PM, wayback71 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit > > > into the > > > lawsuit against MUM b

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...and this is where the negligence occurred...and we all know why > it occurred: the TMO and MUM did not want to inflate crime figures > for a TMing environment that would disprove the Maharishi Effect. > > Is t

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:>> > > > > > > He should get counselling. > > > > > > I'm serious. > > > > > > If Joel is fee

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>> > > > > He should get counselling. > > > > I'm serious. > > > > If Joel is feeling any amount of guilt it should only be to the > > degree that it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > PErhaps because they DID screw up, to some extent? > > > > What "perhaps"? It was a clear case of negligence. > > A guy got scratched in the face

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I could easily have been guilty of the same negligence > Joel Wysong displayed while watching the guy. I suspect > he was in the other room meditating when Sem stole the > knife and left his house. Then he sat and

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/13/06 10:32 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > > > A guy got scratched in the face with a pen in a scuffle. Do you > > believe that the prof was negligent in turning his back and taking a > > show

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit > > into the > > lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The suit > > draws

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/13/06 10:32 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > > > A guy got scratched in the face with a pen in a scuffle. Do you > > believe that the prof was negligent in turning his back and taking a > > sho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/06 10:32 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > A guy got scratched in the face with a pen in a scuffle. Do you > believe that the prof was negligent in turning his back and taking a > shower? Obviously, he didn't believe the guy to be any kind of threat. > Didn't the "scratch" r

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>> > > > > He should get counselling. > > > > I'm serious. > > > > If Joel is feeling any amount of guilt it should only be to the > > degree that it was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/06 10:10 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>> > > He should get counselling. > > I'm serious. > > If Joel is feeling any amount of guilt it should only be to the > degree that it was his responsibility to follow the code of conduct > as published by the university: that is, that

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a > bit > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit > into the > > lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The sui

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/13/06 9:41 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > No one person is to blame for this tragedy. For example, I imagine that the > > parents of > > Sem wish, in retrospect, thatthey had never let him

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit into the > lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The suit draws a > bigger line to include other TM organizations besides MUM;

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit > > > into the > > > laws

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/13/06 9:41 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > No one person is to blame for this tragedy. For example, I imagine that the > > parents of > > Sem wish, in retrospect, thatthey had never let him

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/13/06 9:41 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > No one person is to blame for this tragedy. For example, I imagine that the > parents of > Sem wish, in retrospect, thatthey had never let him go far from home to go to > college > when he had a history (didn't he?) of mental illness

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM lawsuit

2006-03-13 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit > > into the > > lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The suit > > draws a

[FairfieldLife] Re MUM lawsuit

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
Someone asked me to post: Re MUM lawsuit Orthey will have to dip into the finances assoc w/ MMY in India...which MMY won't give up a pennyso I will predict.. are you ready are you sure. they will start a donation program to raise money for the legal defense ---