[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mathatbrahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---TM in itself can make people passive, ultimately leading to the > Bliss-Ninny state; even more dangerous when one's satellite dish is > constantly on the Maharishi channel. Once, a non-meditating young > f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread Peter
Sounds more like a passive-aggressive way to make you leave her. Apparently it worked! --- "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you gerbal88 > > She often said to me,,,"Why are you with me, I have > nothing to offer. > > I always found that to be a very said reflection of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???--thoughts and release of stress

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe you recollect incorrectly--the content of the the thought is > irrelevant to the stress being released, however the "emotional tone", > or mood, may be related to the type of stress--i.e stress due to anger >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???--thoughts and release of stress

2006-08-12 Thread hermandan0
I believe you recollect incorrectly--the content of the the thought is irrelevant to the stress being released, however the "emotional tone", or mood, may be related to the type of stress--i.e stress due to anger may produce angry thoughts but the specific angry thought may not be related to that s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mathatbrahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---TM in itself can make people passive, ultimately leading to the > Bliss-Ninny state; Or, people can use TM as an excuse to be more passive. even more dangerous when one's satellite dish is > constantly on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It has come to my attention that some out there have difficulty > reding. Below are the exact words I used, for those of you who might > have been daydreaming. You will notice I didn't say CHECKER. The > Instructor as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mathatbrahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---TM in itself can make people passive, ultimately leading to the > Bliss-Ninny state; even more dangerous when one's satellite dish is > constantly on the Maharishi channel. Once, a non-meditating young > fel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mathatbrahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread mathatbrahman
---TM in itself can make people passive, ultimately leading to the Bliss-Ninny state; even more dangerous when one's satellite dish is constantly on the Maharishi channel. Once, a non-meditating young fellow from Brit posted a complaint in which he says his Dad no longer works, but spends all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread mathatbrahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, Bill -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread gerbal88
It has come to my attention that some out there have difficulty reding. Below are the exact words I used, for those of you who might have been daydreaming. You will notice I didn't say CHECKER. The Instructor asks this question on the day of initiation and again during the 3 days of checking.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > > Hi, Bill -- TM is based on two profoundly subtle deceptions, that > > > the mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Or to the Source of Thought, transcendental > consciousness. And the "daydreaming" is said to > be a manifestation of what MMY calls "release of > stress" in the nervous system, "stress" (or samskaras, > in tradi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > The person verifying the correctness of our meditatio asks: did > > > you notice some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Thanks for posting the Beacon Light. I have a copy around > > somewhere. It is entertaining to revisit such an inconvenient > > document f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > Hi, Bill -- TM is based on two profoundly subtle deceptions, that > > the mantra and the method of using the mantra enables one to > > experience the abs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > The person verifying the correctness of our meditatio asks: did > > you notice some moments when there was no mantra and no thought. > > No, that question

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Bill -- TM is based on two profoundly subtle deceptions, that > the mantra and the method of using the mantra enables one to > experience the absolute or source of thought. (Note that gerbal never goes on to explain

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for posting the Beacon Light. I have a copy around > somewhere. It is entertaining to revisit such an inconvenient > document for the movement. It's "inconvenient" only when it's misrepresented, as g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill (William)Simmons wrote: > > >I can't seem to come up with a rational reason to spend a great > >portion of my life in meditation. What gets accomplished? What gets > >created? > > > >I'm not trying to be argumenta

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for posting the Beacon Light. I have a copy around somewhere. > It is entertaining to revisit such an inconvenient document for the > movement. > > Only the most hardcore people fnid it that inconve

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > > wrote: > > > > > > Thank you gerbal88 > > > > > > She often said to me,,,"Why are you wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But when Mahesh started adding his alarmest thinking (we have to > avert nuclear war, etc. see > http://www.skepticfiles.org/new/tm17.htm) Ah, this brings back fond memories, one of the very most fun episodes on alt.med

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for posting the Beacon Light. I have a copy around somewhere. It is entertaining to revisit such an inconvenient document for the movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > --- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill, > This is absolutely correct, and what many of us found after a number of > years doing the Sidhis...TM was supposed to be 20 mins 2X/day, that was > it. To me, that's a reasonable amount of time to spend if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you gerbal88 > > She often said to me,,,"Why are you with me, I have nothing to offer. > > I always found that to be a very said reflection of ones self worth. > And yet she claims to be on such a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > wrote: > > > > Thank you gerbal88 > > > > She often said to me,,,"Why are you with me, I have nothing to > offer. Bill -- FWIIW, I have added two files

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't seem to come up with a rational reason to spend a great > portion of my life in meditation. What gets accomplished? What gets > created? > > I'm not trying to be argumentative here or confrontat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you gerbal88 > > She often said to me,,,"Why are you with me, I have nothing to offer. > > I always found that to be a very said reflection of ones self worth. > And yet she claims to be on such

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Thank you gerbal88 She often said to me,,,"Why are you with me, I have nothing to offer. I always found that to be a very said reflection of ones self worth. And yet she claims to be on such a high spiritual path. She feels she is superior spiritually because she is a TM'er. --- In FairfieldLi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Thank you Rick I appreciate the insights. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 12:24 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I can't seem to come up with a rational reason to spend a great > > portion of my life in me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Me I am here now in the present and on this plane of existance to > experience what is here in all its positive and negative aspects. > Why else would I be here if it wasn't to experience what is here

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the need???

2006-08-12 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't seem to come up with a rational reason to spend a great > portion of my life in meditation. What gets accomplished? What gets > created? > > I'm not trying to be argumentative here or confrontat