Richard, sorry I haven't replied. I've been out of town today. A friend and I
went to see Saving Mr. Banks. Tom Hanks and Emma Thompson were wonderful.
On Friday, January 3, 2014 1:18 PM, Richard J. Williams
wrote:
On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
> Nor did she see Jesus asce
On 1/3/2014 1:01 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> However she never said anything about seeing him
> floating away,
>
Mary told the other apostles exactly what Jesus instructed her to tell
them. The only thing that was important at that moment was for Mary to
tell the other guys that Jesus had risen
On 1/3/2014 10:50 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> Back in Santa Fe I had a gardener named Jesus, and I saw
> him standing around quite often.
>
What else would a gardener in Santa Fe be doing, since there's hardly
any gardening to be don in the high desert. Go figure.
> Does that make me a New Testa
On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
> Nor did she see Jesus ascend into heaven 40 days later.
>
You are really bringing up some important issues, Share. We don't have a
Bible in the house so I'm depending Judy, and on my local Monsignor - he
can read Greek - and Dad, who is in his third ye
A lot of people still haven't caught on to what he was doing. I guess we'll all
just have to wait and see.
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On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
> Mary M did not see the actual moment that Jesus returned to life,
> the resurrection.
>
There actually two parts to the resurrection of Jesus. The first part is
rising the physical
For me, the question of Jesus' resurrection is rather like the resurrection of
Sherlock Holmes. But if in fact he did exists as a person, I would say he
experienced enlightenment, taught others, and then died, perhaps not so nicely.
Some of his followers caught on to what he was doing, but most
On 1/3/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote:
> Mary M did not see the actual moment that Jesus returned to life,
> the resurrection.
>
There actually two parts to the resurrection of Jesus. The first part is
rising the physical body from the dead. Probably only some angels saw
that who were inside
Good one!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>
> This was pretty funny, Richard but I still think Mary M did not see the
> actu
This was pretty funny, Richard but I still think Mary M did not see the actual
moment that Jesus returned to life, the resurrection. Nor did she see Jesus
ascend into heaven 40 days later. It sounds like she saw him standing around
looking like a gardner. Go figure!
On Thursday, January 2,
On 1/3/2014 8:41 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
>
Only a poseur or a caviler would deny the scriptures right in front of
their face, and no child who is old enough to think for himself or
herself thinks that God Almighty lives in a local heaven down
OY VEY! Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
From: Richard J. Williams
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row
On 1/3/2014 12:11 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
> Okay, I'm corrected on th
On 1/3/2014 12:11 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
> Okay, I'm corrected on the second point. Thanks.
>
So, let's review what we know:
Mary dated Jesus for a number of years. They killed Jesus and hung him
on a tree. Mary buried Jesus in Joe's tomb. Jesus was raised from the
dead; he ascended up in the s
In Autobiography of a Yogi Paramahansa Yogananda reported that he witnessed the
resurrection of the PHYSICAL body of Swami Yukteswar, his Master.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
On 1/2/2014 3:46 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
> Nobody is said in the Bible
On 1/2/2014 5:35 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual
> resurrection, as you know.
>
Mary Magdalene saw the Resurrection - she saw Jesus ascend to the
Father. She saw it, according to the Bible.
"Mary sees two angels and then Jesus, whom she do
> But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three
> days solid and then become enlivened before her living
> eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the door being
> removed? Nope.
>
According to the Bible, Jesus' body was raised from the dead but his soul
did not get raised until he was outside
Jesus could have been using a very powerful flashlight to get his attention.
Kind of like a cop dose at night. Hey you! Freeze!
From: Richard J. Williams
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
On 1
But did Mary watch the dead body of Jesus for three days solid and then become
enlivened before her living eyes? Nope. Did she see the stone from the door
being removed? Nope.
Stinks of a magic trick, eh?
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you
> know.
Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible.
Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life. S
On 1/2/2014 3:47 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> He didn't actually see Jesus but a brilliant light that blinded him
for days.
>
Jesus Christ appeared to be a brilliant light up in the sky - Paul saw
it and he spoke to the Christ. Where else do you think light comes from,
if not up in the sky? From a
On 1/2/2014 3:46 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as
you know.
>
Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible.
Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life. She was the
first to see the resurr
I tend to have more sweat under my feet... but then I am a water sign.
From: Richard Williams
To: Richard J. Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
> Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small
> sp
ROFLMAO!
From: Richard Williams
To: Richard J. Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
> Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small
> space of air beneath his feat*?
>
Have you ever tried to wa
sked "who are you sir?" The voice replied "I am
Jesus..." Saul later became known as Paul. He didn't actually see Jesus but a
brilliant light that blinded him for days.
From: Richard Williams
To: Richard J. Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 12:38 PM
Sub
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you
> know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw
Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She wa
On 1/2/2014 3:16 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as
you know.
>
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw
Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She was the first one
to see the resurre
On 1/2/2014 3:13 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Ordinary human beings speak to 500 or many more people
> all the time without being up in the sky.
>
So, you're thinking that Jesus appeared to the 500 behind a podium,
bowing and scrapping like an ordinary human being? In that case, why do
y
On 1/2/2014 3:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Paul doesn't say anything about the risen Christ "floating
> in the sky" when he appeared to the 500 brethren.
>
So, where do you think the Christ appeared to the 500, under a rock? In
order for 500 people to see Christ all at the same time, h
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?
No, as you know, nob
> Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the air" above the 500
> eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of course
the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500 people
On 1/2/2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one!
>
How much would you be willing to wager? Judy and Bob have their
"macros", but even then, I think I could beat them, even with one hand
tied behind my back. I have been known to
On 1/2/2014 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape
> > to get off the ground?
> >
> You mean like the "Yogic Flyers"?
>
Well yeah, I had Judy in mind - bow and scrape to bun-hop.
feet on the ground.
>
> *From:* Richard J. Williams
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
>
> On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
>
> > One account of some
I have several Bibles in my house, including one on my Kindle. None of them
says anything about Jesus being "up in the air" after his resurrection (until
the Ascension 40 days later).
> the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being "up in the air"
> after his resurrection (until the Ascensio
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
> as you know.
>
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?
[image: Inline image 1]
> Paul doesn't say anything about Christ "hovering up in the
> air" above the 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says
> Christ appeared to them.
>
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of
course the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500
people
On 1/2/2014 8:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being "up in the air"
> after his resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
>
Do you even have a Bible in your house? Everyone knows about Christ
being in the clouds in hundreds of depictions
Actually, I think we're all pushing each others buttons and my sides are aching
right now LOL!
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c
<< Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death,
y, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
> resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
> someone joined them on their walk an
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
> as you know.
>
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she
was the first to
I agree, Judy, it is an imaginative composition. What I especially like is that
the artist seems to be playing with perspective. BUT from the point of view of
the human body, rather than a line of columns or some other architectural
structure. Also, I like that by costume he places the three gua
Look more closely. The painting shows him in the process of emerging from the
tomb right through the stone lid fully clothed (or draped), while the guards
are snoring away.
This is my favorite painting of the Resurrection, both because Christ looks
kind of beat up and even a little diffident
dear Mike, Happy New Year to you and your critters! Now could you please define
*last word?!*
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!
Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose THROUGH
the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They helped him
move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men fell
asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all
, you could at
least walk with your feet on the ground.
From: Richard J. Williams
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
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On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> One account of some of the first peo
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
> as you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the
> resurrection - she
was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the t
> Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
> when you add something you made up out of your own head that
> isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
>
<< Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in
defense of your outrageous a
On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
> as you know.
>
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she
was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that
Jesus was the Chr
On 1/1/2014 4:38 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
> when you add something you made up out of your own head that
> isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
>
Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that ci
Never a "fundie" in terms of anything but Maharishi's teaching on the nature
and mechanics of consciousness. And I don't believe I ever said anything about
"flying around the room with arms flailing." That would have been odd indeed
since I repeatedly pointed out that nothing except hopping had
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
> resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
> someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
> Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
>
Sure, the Christ could
On 1/1/2014 6:10 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
> ...you continually show an extreme amount of intolerance,
judgementalness,
> (if that's a word), and narrow mindedness.
>
Judy is what used to be called a TMer "fundie" on Google Groups. For
years over there she defended MMY's Yogic Flying
On 1/1/2014 7:32 PM, Share Long wrote:
> Richard kept saying that the spirit of Jesus rose from
> his body but the scripture says the tomb was empty. No body.
>
For Christians, Jesus rose up from the dead in body AND soul. That's why
there was an empty tomb.
According to Mary, "I saw the Lord
<< Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt.
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! >>
Hans Multscher, 1437
On 1/1/2014 8:18 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just noticed that Judy is anxious, as always, to stretch
> some tiny point into a prolonged disagreement.
>
So, let's sum up what we know, Steve:
Judy does not believe the Bible as history. She does not believe that
angels, spirits, and J
On 1/1/2014 9:43 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
> As Paul's letters are generally considered to have been
> written before the Gospels, he was likely referring to
> various prophesies in the Jewish scriptures that 'foretell'
> the Messiah
>
Paul's fifteenth chapter of the First Epistle to th
On 1/2/2014 6:41 AM, Share Long wrote:
> But now thinking about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH
> the stone on top of his crypt.
>
So, let's review what we know:
They killed Jesus. Mary put him in Joseph's tomb. Some guys put a big
heavy stone blocking the entrance to the crypt. La
> No surprise, Share. You simply aren't big enough or
> brave enough to admit your pal has been dishonest,
> despite all the evidence.
>
Everyone knows that you don't believe in the Bible as history.
So, I don't know what your problem is - everyone knows that Jesus as
the Christ could fly up
Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking about
it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. And
that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone!
but but but...if he was already in a bullock cart, why was he stil
On 1/1/2014 4:29 PM, Share Long wrote:
> Richard, I always thought that Jesus rose from the
> dead body and spirit.
>
According to what I've read, Jesus was raised from the dead - the key
word here is "risen" - he rose up from the dead inside the tomb - in
body AND spirit - he left the tomb b
I'm really sorry about that Judy. You'll just have to forgive me, por favor
Stevie, do you have any idea how often you get it wrong when you try to
mind-read?
Hi Share,
Second attempt at this message. I did not follow the conversation with
Richard and may have missed some nuances. But when someone is condescending,
you don't usually miss that. That's what I wa
Hi Share,
Second attempt at this message. I did not follow the conversation with
Richard and may have missed some nuances. But when someone is condescending,
you don't usually miss that. That's what I was commenting on of course. I
just noticed that Judy is anxious, as always, to stretch
And yet more awesome from Share. No matter how low you set your expectations of
her, she always outdoes them.
<< Hi Steve and thanks for clarifying. Richard kept saying that the spirit of
Jesus rose from his body but the scripture says the tomb was empty. No body.
That's what I was pointing o
Hi Steve and thanks for clarifying. Richard kept saying that the spirit of
Jesus rose from his body but the scripture says the tomb was empty. No body.
That's what I was pointing out to Richard, rhetorically. How Judy twisted that
into something to criticize is HER brand of awesome imho.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
On 1/1/2014 4:10 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
> "raised on the third day" only makes sense in reference
> to a physical event doesn't it?
>
Raised from the dead means raised to a spirit - a spiritual
resurrection. But, man
> Does anyone involved in this current discussion consider the Bible to be
> history?
<< You mean history as opposed to your opinion? >>
No.
<<< Apparently Judy has been doing most of the Bible referencing in this
thread. As far as I can tell, Judy cites no historians to back up any of
guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air because she was
instructed not to cling to him. unless of course she was hovering as well when
she first saw Him.
From: Richard J. Williams
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLi
On 1/1/2014 4:15 PM, Share Long wrote:> Judy I did NOT confirm that the
hovering was something
> Richard made up!
>
According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen
above five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. Spirits
and angels can fly and hover, so it make
On 1/1/2014 4:10 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> "raised on the third day" only makes sense in reference
> to a physical event doesn't it?
>
Raised from the dead means raised to a spirit - a spiritual
resurrection. But, many Christians believe that the body of Jesus was
restored AND his soul
On 1/1/2014 3:35 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Does anyone involved in this current discussion
> consider the Bible to be history?
>
You mean history as opposed to your opinion?
Apparently Judy has been doing most of the Bible referencing in this
thread. As far as I can tell, Judy cites n
On 1/1/2014 3:23 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Historians and Biblical scholars seem mostly in
> agreement that Mark is the earliest of the Gospels
> (though some of the letters of Paul are earlier).
>
According to Paul, in Acts 9:3–9, after the resurrection the risen
Christ was seen above
On 1/1/2014 2:40 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> So Richard was wrong about Luke (until he changed "see"
> to "realize" and pretended that's what he'd been saying
> all along).
>
"She was at his burial, and she is the only person that all four Gospels
say was first to realize that Jesus had ri
On 1/1/2014 2:28 PM, Share Long wrote:
> Having read the gospel excerpts, I even wonder if
> Mary M was the first to see the risen Christ.
>
"She stayed with him at the cross after the male disciples (except John
the Beloved) had fled. She was at his burial, and she is the only person
that al
Steve, this post from Share is an example of why I think she's "awesome." Who
else do you know who would ask "Wasn't the tomb empty?!" unless they had almost
no acquaintance with Christianity and had never read the Bible?
<< Richard, I always thought that Jesus rose from the dead body and spir
On 1/1/2014 1:51 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Sorry, but that isn't a quote from that Wikipedia
> page, as you know
>
"She stayed with him at the cross after the male disciples (except John
the Beloved) had fled. She was at his burial, and she is the only person
that all four Gospels say
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
> As you know, she was a witness to the risen Christ,
> not to the resurrection itself. Nobody saw that.
>
Mary Magdalene was at the Jesus' crucifixion, a witness to his ministry,
and she was at the resurrection.
On 1/1/2014 1:20 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> As you know, she was a witness to the risen Christ,
> not to the resurrection itself. Nobody saw that.
>
Mary Magdalene was at the Jesus' crucifixion, a witness to his ministry,
and she was at the resurrection. She saw them all with her own ey
Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard, when you add
something you made up out of your own head that isn't in the Bible at all, it
would be good if you'd say so.
Actually, the descriptions in the Gospel accounts don't say anything about the
risen Christ being "up in the
<< Judy I did NOT confirm that the hovering was something Richard made up! For
all I know, he really thought that. Or maybe he just misspoke. I don't think he
lied or trolled. >>
No surprise, Share. You simply aren't big enough or brave enough to admit your
pal has been dishonest, despite a
Richard, I always thought that Jesus rose from the dead body and spirit. I
mean, wasn't the tomb empty?!
On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 4:19 PM, Richard J. Williams
wrote:
On 1/1/2014 1:19 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It was "established" a very long time ago.
>
So, Mary Magdalene
On 1/1/2014 1:19 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It was "established" a very long time ago.
>
So, Mary Magdalene was the first person to see the risen Christ after
the resurrection. And, I think Jesus rose from the dead and flew into
the air so Mary could see him first. Later, Jesus as the r
Judy I did NOT confirm that the hovering was something Richard made up! For all
I know, he really thought that. Or maybe he just misspoke. I don't think he
lied or trolled. All in all, I definitely think that this exchange has been the
creation of several people, not just Richard.
On Wedne
Does anyone involved in this current discussion consider the Bible to be
history?
I find it interesting that religious writings are considered history because
they contain historical references. But they were written for an entirely
different purpose.
As a case in point there are four kn
I find it interesting that religious writings are considered history because
they contain historical references. But they were written for an entirely
different purpose.
As a case in point there are four known earliest more or less complete
manuscripts of the Christian Bible. Codex Sinaiticu
Yes, maybe the angels watched, but we were really talking about human beings.
And I've never disputed that Mary Magdalene was the first human to see the
risen Christ according to Matthew, Mark, and John--but not Luke. So Richard was
wrong about Luke (until he changed "see" to "realize" and prete
Having read the gospel excerpts, I even wonder if Mary M was the first to see
the risen Christ. Maybe the angel at His tomb was the first to see Him.
Anyway, I think you are right that risen in terms of the resurrection does not
mean hovering. And I think Richard is right in that Mary M was th
<< Mary Magdalene was the first to see the risen Christ. "All the four
gospels agree on this: Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1, Luke 24:10, and John 20:1."
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene >>
Sorry, but that isn't a quote from that
As you know, she was a witness to the risen Christ, not to the resurrection
itself. Nobody saw that.
<< what you should have put in red was that Luke wasn't at the
resurrection >>
> Neither was anybody else.
>
In the Gospel of John, Mary Magdalene "...is recorded as the first
witness
As you know, it was never in question that this is what Matthew, Mark, and John
report. No "established, finally" in this discussion. It was "established" a
very long time ago.
<< > As you know, it was never in question that this is what Matthew, Mark,
> and John report (although Mark and Joh
On 1/1/2014 11:49 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> But I'd be willing to bet quite a substantial sum of money that
> Share will still not acknowledge that Richard has been trolling
> and lying throughout the discussion.
>
How much would you be willing to wager? You being a non-believer, your
On 1/1/2014 11:46 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> this isn't about "opinion," but about fact: What does the Bible
actually say?
>
The important question is what did Mary see and what did he say to the
Apostles? The Bible doesn't say exactly what Mary said, but according
to the Gospel of Ma
On 1/1/2014 11:42 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> << what you should have put in red was that Luke wasn't at the
resurrection >>
> Neither was anybody else.
>
In the Gospel of John, Mary Magdalene "...is recorded as the first
witness of Jesus' resurrection (John 20:14–16); (Mark 16:9 later
On 1/1/2014 11:34 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> As you know, it was never in question that this is what Matthew, Mark,
> and John report (although Mark and John do not include James's mother;
> it's only Mary M. who sees him). No "finally established" about it in
> this discussion.
>
Let
On 1/1/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long wrote:
> I admit to very much enjoying the semantics of it all.
>
According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen
above five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. "The
Conversion of Paul the Apostle, was, according to the New Tes
On 1/1/2014 11:14 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
> think you're taking it all too seriously. No one else
> here is, except maybe Ricky.
>
Apparently Judy has learned nothing from her years as a TMer Siddha.
Everyone knows that the soul or the spirit can transcend the gross body
and lift
On 1/1/2014 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> I guess it's just what some people think of as "fun," but
> personally I can find zero interest in any of this
>
Now this is funny - a guy that claims to have read over 200 books on the
Cathars isn't interested in the Cathar legend of Mary Magdalene. S
On 1/1/2014 10:46 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Except for Luke, of course. In Luke, the risen Jesus appears first
> to two of the disciples (men) on the road to Emmaus.
>
Apparently Luke was a non-believer in Mary's message. Luke 24:9-11 says:
"When (the women) came back from the tomb, th
But I'd be willing to bet quite a substantial sum of money that Share will
still not acknowledge that Richard has been trolling and lying throughout the
discussion. Right, Share? Sorta like you refuse to acknowledge your falsehoods
about my September 2012 post.
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