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Roozbeh Pournader,
Sharif FarsiWeb Inc
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that Roozbeh Pournader wrote some C code to convert Unicode
Persian text to some legacy character set called iransystem. As
a requirement for that, he wrote the joining code that was later
used by me in farsi.
Late 2001, my major work on FriBidi has been done, so was the
time to use what I
Nadim proposed something along 'beacon', as in 'bicon', as in
'bidi con{sole,dom}'. I like both. 'bicon' goes more with
'fribidi's, but as we converted freebidi to fribidi, we do bicon
to beacon too. I'm with beacon then.
No objections.
roozbeh
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 20:07, Sam Baran wrote:
I opt for Farsi than Persian for the dominant
language, used in the present Iran and the colonies
abroad.
It's not important what you or I opt for. That is an important point.
Iran is a nation of multi-language cultures: Fars,
Khuzi, Baluch,
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 02:34, C Bobroff wrote:
And why didn't anyone answer Saber's PersianComputing questions last week?
They were quite reasonable and on topic and even related to Persian
computing!
Perhaps no one knew the answer. Really.
roozbeh
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 02:03, C Bobroff wrote:
I believe in principle, the search engines are to consider Persian and
Arabic Yeh to be the same.
They should consider it to be weakly equivalent. That's the term. Same
as they do for, say, capital A and small a, or a-umlaut (รค) and
normal a.
Yet
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 21:10, Sina Ahmadian wrote:
After searching almost all the net for a persian list of countries, I didn't
find anything! Some websites use the english country list while others leave
the users free to enter their country name. I remember I've seen a persian
country list
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 11:04, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Button Phrasing. Write button labels as imperative verbs, for
example Save, Print. This allows users to select an action with
less hesitation. An active phrase also fits best with the
button's role in initiating actions, as contrasted with a
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 00:28, Peyman wrote:
Persian has one of the most productive word formation systems.
I would appreciate seeing some statistics to back that up, like you have
done with the verbs. Do you have any?
roozbeh
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On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 12:29, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Well, you're probably right, but then the suffixes are going to
lose all their meaning as a suffix. After a while there would be
no common sense between words ending with ak... (and yes, there
would be no suffix, some new words).
Guest
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 16:38, Behnam wrote:
But in the meantime, do you know where is the small Alef for
putting on the Final Yeh (in hattaa for example) or Farsi Hamza
(Yeh-e-raabet) that we put on the final Heh in this standard layout? I
couldn't find them anywhere.
They are not in ISIRI
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 18:11, Behnam wrote:
From what I see, there is no Farsi keyboard layout (on PC or Mac) that uses
the real Farsi Yeh (U+06CC) they use either U+0649 the Arabic Alef Maksurah
(for Mac and some PCs) or U+064A the Arabic Yeh (for some other PCs, with
chopped off dots in the
An Article by New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/25/technology/circuits/25code.html
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On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 09:50, C Bobroff wrote:
Just don't tell me the calligraphers have also joined the band-wagon and
are now putting the dots!
Fortunately they're not.
You know, everybody who's caring and sane enough to proofread, makes
sure these don't appear on paper (or sometimes on the
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:16, C Bobroff wrote:
But then once you do notice,
then you REALLY notice. Those two little dots get under your skin and it
starts to fester. You start to ONLY see the dots and the rest of the
content becomes a blur. Insanity is imminent. The only solution: Immediate
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 21:49, C Bobroff wrote:
By the way, this is yet another reason I offer up thanks to Roozbeh,
Behnam (and others) for the new Persian keyboard as the Arabic Yeh is
only a convenient Shift key away and makes for much more fruitful Google
searches!
Well, thank the original
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 03:31, C Bobroff wrote:
OK, I took up your challenge and just emailed Yahoo. Don't blame me when
we discover they've replaced Arabic Yeh with CYRILLIC LETTER YA U+042F!
I don't like it. I wasn't challenging you. 'Was challenging the silent
lurkers.
roozbeh
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Unicadetti,
The day you have been waiting for has arrived. All of
the pdf for the online version of Unicode 4.0 has been
generated and is now
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:45, C Bobroff wrote:
There is already a font called Koodak. Won't users (and their computers)
have a problem when they THINK they are seeing this font but it's really
the old one? It won't occur to them to download the new one.
The point is, this is exactly just *that*
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote:
The question remains why you provide direct keyboard input for
combining hamza madda. Are there any letter combinations other than
with alef/ya/waw that can be created via combination?
Yes. Heh.
(I've seen accents added in handwriting for Pashto and
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
For whatever they're worth, they're here as PDF files:
http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/roman.html
That only mentions there is only one Kurdish letter not already in
Persian. But we know a lot of accent marks are used, while the above
reference only
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Behnam Esfahbod wrote:
As Roozbeh suggested, we can put these 3 character in the new layout, but
my opinion is that we don't; because they SHOULD NOT use in persian texts,
and we have other local shapes for these characters.
No, we don't local shapes for these. These
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
What is the character on alt+control+d?
It's the Arabic Alef Maksura. For cases you just need a dandaane in the
middle of a word. Almost always Koranic quotes.
Or maybe that's supposed to be the tatweel??
No, Tatweel is at Shift+-.
And forgive my
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Nigel Greenwood wrote:
If you mean that it's easier to type Persian on a Persian _physical_ keyboard
with the Iranian layout, I'm sure you're right. PerScript is designed for use
on US/European QWERTY keyboards, where the keys are actually marked Q,
W, E, R, T, Y,
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
If you don't redefine your concept of easy,
Well, honestly the way it is now in MS software (or even Linux) is not
good enough even for experts. IMO, all OS-es should come automatically
with all languages enabled, or, at the minimum, come with an automatic
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote:
These are *combining* Maddah, Hamza Above, and Hamza Below.
Isn't that what I called deadkeys in another context? (Had no time to
look into SC Unipad so far to see how exactly they function...)
There is a difference. Dead keys are typed before the base
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote:
But doesn't ALEF MAKSURA appear mostly at the end of words, i.e. in its
final or isolated forms?
It does, but that is the Arabic. A normal Persian Yeh is used in Persian
contexts. For example, both words ali and kobraa should be written
(and encoded in
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
An exhausted but euphoric Roozbeh?
Not euphoric. Not at all. I just feel talkative. The really good word for
what I am now is tired. I need a lot of alcohol, and then a lot of sleep.
A good Persian word is mozmahel.
Admit it, you're enjoying every
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
No, I've alerted all the embassies of the world not to issue you any more
visas for conferences.
It should have been you then :))
Look how much we all have profited from the fruits of your visa
frustations of the past few days--
a very nice keyboard,
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
Yes, that's what I meant and it took YOU half an hour but would have taken
me and the silent lurkers weeks or possibly never so thank you.
I don't believe it. Full stop.
And did I hear you say, nice MS tool? Hmmm
It's a nice tool. But it's a shame
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Behnam Esfahbod wrote:
take a look at this mail.
you can find the example at:
- http://esfahbod.info/proj/web/test/ie/crash.html
i'd tested the page with IE6 SP1 (latest microsoft update), and it crashed
too!
I'm sorry, this is completely off-topic. Please stop
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote:
Thanks for your efforts to provide us with an experimental version of
the new standard keyboard layout for Persian !
You're welcome Peter. But please don't propagate it much, since that may
be changed.
I tried the keyboard in Word2000/Win2000, using
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
In a textbook, you might want to say, This here is a maddah. In the
past, I wanted to show what a superscript alif compared to fatha looks
like and was not able to
You should put them either over a space, or a Tatweel (U+0640, the base
line extender
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote:
No other keyboard I know for extended Arabic languages provides keytop
positions for standalone versions of maddah, hamzah above and hamzah
below, although it might make sense to use these keys as deadkeys to
type compounded glyphs alef-madda,
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
Just over a space is fine but the font should be able to render it and the
fontmakers don't always know what all people may want to type.
That's some other matter.
If the fontmakers see it's a character on the keyboard, they might make
an isolated form.
This is a test to check that the list are now up and running. Please
ignore.
roozbeh
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Dear Unicoders,
Very often the Unicode Consortium has received requests from webmasters
who
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Shervin Afshar wrote:
I believe that Kurdi language has not a written
form and it uses farsi script.
No, you're wrong. It indeed has a written form and has some special
letters only used in Kurdish. I can't point to a specific resource (I am
indeed searching for
Hong Kong [Special Administrative Region] government is advocating
ISO 10646 (a.k.a. Unicode) by creating flash animations:
http://www.info.gov.hk/digital21/eng/images/cli/iso.swf
Funny!
roozbeh
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
If unicode is so scrupulously attentive to details of standardization,
why is the naming scheme so haphazard?
Because of very tight constraints set by ISO, and a requirement of ISO
that the names stay the same forever, even if mistakes are found in them.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, M wrote:
The problem is that I am a anti-microsoft prophet :-)
Oh, you want Linux software?
Red Hat 8.0's GNOME editor (gedit) and KDE editors (Kate and Kedit?)
support Persian editing (with a few bugs), and so does yudit
(http://www.yudit.org/). Latest vim also supports
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Masoud Sharbiani wrote:
You can't revoke a license by not just providing the software anymore.
Yes you can. That was exactly what happened to OEone, where FSF
prohibited us from providing bash, glibc (and therefore all of our
distro, since we used glibc) because of a
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
Speaking of Windows, I have heard unsubstantiated reports that even with
WinXP, the yeh (06CC--on the d key) works great in some editing
programs such as Word but even on the same computer, fails to work in
other programs.
That will be
Dear Mr Rezaei,
We don't support Windows XP. You can test it for yourself to see if it
works for you (some people could make it work with XP and some others
couldn't). About the p == ~ thing, FarsiWeb's KBDFA.DLL is based on
Iranian national standard ISIRI 2901. You can read ISIRI 2901 at:
This is just for testing purposes. Please ignore this.
roozbeh
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote:
Instead of someone new asking every 3 months how can I sort Persian?,
The whole problem is that people post questions without looking at the
archives, or searching the Google. They look at the internet as an Oracle,
instead of a knowledge base.
why
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, FK wrote:
All these problems with the Arabic script makes me a believer in
changing our alphabet to a Latin-based one and getting rid of all these
unnecessary headaches :-)
The whole point is: all other languages have similiar problems, including
those written in Latin.
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Nasiri2 wrote:
Do you use Persian unicode fields in any database? How do you sort these
fields while the letters Gaf,Cheh,Peh, and Zheh are not in correct
order?
Your database or your programming language should provide the sorting
mechanism, or you should implement
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
But i don't know that how type farsi in KDE or GNOME.
Use Red Hat 8.0's KDE and GNOME. GNOME's 'gedit' support Persian, and also
some of the KDE text editors (I can't remember which do). The Persian
keyboard layout is also included in Red Hat 8.0
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Saber XP wrote:
thanks for your reply.
why i see your presentation show with error in medical YEH? what's the
problem with my font(s)? I've to update them?
(see attachment)
Your fonts have bugs with Persian Yeh then. Try these:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, I would like to comply with the current standard, but am not able to
find the U+0654 on any of the Unicode fonts that I know which are Arial
Unicode MS, Tahoma, and Microsoft San Serif. Would someone please let me
know of a standard Unicode
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, C Bobroff wrote:
Ok, it seems that we are seeing a lot of monolouges here.
I'm sure more people than just me are finding the monologues educational
I just wish to emphasize that I have seen repetitions of the same concern.
And I can't forget referring to some of us as
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Abi Lover wrote:
There are some people in the Persian IT and linguistics debate who think
that they have a duty to lay down rules for other people to follow. At first
we were told how to write the ezafeh. Now we have been told how to write
the hamzeh. Next I expect we
On Mon, 20 May 2002, mohammad mohebbi wrote:
i store farsi names in a field of SQL server table, if i sort this field
, will sorted by farsi order?
As far as I know, the answer is no. Arash Rezaiizadeh and me are trying to
convince Microsoft to add a Persian sorting table, but before that,
Just to mention that I have unsubscribed from some of international
mailing lists related to I18n, so I may not be able to monitor all
discussions there. It would be great if interested people here can
subscribe to some of them and tell the related Iranian list (farsiweb,
persiancomputing,
FYI.
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I previously used your keyboard DLL for win2k; yesterday I tried it
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