date:20050829

Yeah, and while you are reminding MC next weekend... remind me sometime in 
January, I
expect I'll have the time to find (or re-write) all my stuff sometime in 
mid-winter.

Yes, bigger soapbox required! (maybe we should add that to the wish list?)

You know, I didn't get a single reply on my dairy farm drop off rant.. maybe I 
am
losing my touch.. then again that northeastrescue list IS kinda slow.

Errggg.. this headache is killing me... must get websites all updated... must
continue on...

I think I'm going to be forced into a break... much to the disappointment of my
friend Kara, who has the FIV+ cats from Angel Wings, hers was my last update of 
the
day.. and my head hurts too much to finish it! She has adopted out about half of
those cats now! Yeah Kara! Whoo-hooo! (now, if only the webpage reflected that 
fact)

Be back later tonight guys, taking a break, eye strain, ya know?

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
Adopt a FIV+ cat:
http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must
live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up 
until she
earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you 
can send
them to, to help feed Bazil!



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Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

2005-08-29 Thread Terri Brown





Positive vibes coming your way!
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, 
and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan 
  Loesch 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:29 
  AM
  Subject: Please add Big Rik to the 
  special needs list
  
  Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list.  He 
  has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly 
  healthy.  He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids 
  and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and 
  unsteady.  He's a really fine old fella, felv negative.  
thanks

Re: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Terri Brown

Title: Message




Please extend my condolences to your friend.
 
Goodnight, sweet Twiggy...
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, 
and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: Doljan, Joan 
  To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
  
  Cc: 'Raymaker, Norrice 
  (LEGAL)' 
  Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:06 
  AM
  Subject: CLS - Twiggy
  
  Belinda,
   
  Please add, my 
  friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service.  She was 
  about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had 
  started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice 
  was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When 
  she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times 
  but often had a fever which would come and go.  Norrice, had her to the 
  vet, numerous times and previously they could not find anything 
  specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work showed that 
  Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood count, elevated liver 
  enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
  for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never 
  ate much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came 
  from a house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some 
  kitten deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
  to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled 
  with love and much caring..
  Thank 
  you,
   
  Joan

Re: Leuk Positive Cat

research IS finally being done, on a limited basis, i'm
told--specifically at ucdavis, and i believe that gloria knows about
other studies.

of COURSE there's no research! when a problem is best solved by
euthanasia, where's the population to study?? and i'm not even
concerned with getting TREATMENT options out there so much as
information about testing, how contagious it is or isn't, how it's
spread--those things that ARE fairly well-documented haven't filtered
down yet even! i know i've seen the cited stats about percentages of
adult cats who will fight the virus off, how and when to retest, snap
v elissa tests--as it is, there is more knowledge about the realities
of living with FeLV on this list on any given day than anyplace else
in the world, probably.

and, when you get right down to it, so WHAT if the "medical" community
doesn't believe anything we say? they don't believe anything THEY say
about FeLV either, since they don't bother to keep up on what HAS been
discovered! (hey, jenn, i think we really need to get a larger soapbox
one of these days.)

let me try and see if i can find what i wrote--i think i ran it by
gloria back then, but don't remember if i did, nor what she had to say
even if i did..remind me after next weekend if i forget, someone
(5-10 kittens GO TO OTHER FOSTER HOMES NEXT WEEKEND; i'll have a lot
more time, and a slight bit more sanity then.)



-- 
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: Leuk Positive Cat

Yes, we DO need something like the FIV article at best friends. Something well
written, and with some facts and studies to back the info up. Sad thing is, no 
one
has bothered doing any scientific studies on FELV, so anything we write is just
considered "alternative" or "home remedies" to the veterinary community. What we
REALLY need is funding for real studies, so we can prove that the things we do 
HELP.
As far as the scientific and medical community is concerned, there is still NO
treatment for FELV, because there's no proven studies to back anything we say 
up. Our
experience doesn't mean anything to anyone, we are not vets, and we are not
scientists, and we are not "official" enough to count for anything. It's SO
frustrating!

Still, it would be good to write out, once and for all, the facts about how most
adult cats develop natural immunity, and how it's not highly contagious, and 
about
how short the virus lives outside the host, and any number of the things we DO 
know,
for sure, about FELV. I, myself, like you have written the same things over and 
over
again, so many times. It IS a stupid waste of time, and you are absolutely 
correct,
we DO need to "get it together"!

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
Adopt a FIV+ cat:
http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must
live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up 
until she
earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you 
can send
them to, to help feed Bazil!



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Re: Leuk Positive Cat

oh, sigh.

do we (that's the collective we) have a basic primer on FeLV--about
how many cats throw it off, how vaccinated cats living with positives
stay negative, etc--that we can mail off to folks? the best friends'
article on FIV is SO clear, so simple, and has saved SO many lives
obviously, FeLV is not as simple, but if there was something we all
had access to help make people come to reasoned decisions about the
cats they so often love, i think it might help we shouldn't have
to rewrite it individually each time.

on saturday, i spent more than an hour on the phone with a vet from
OH. she volunteers at a shelter that has actually KEPT two FeLV
kittens for retesting--they're both close to being tested again, and
she wanted to know about placement options, alternatives, etc. by the
end of the conversation, she was seriously considering just taking the
two babies home to her already-vaccinated household, and thanked me
for both giving her information she had NOT had before, but also for
confirming things she's suspected about how the virus actually works.
there ARE people out there willing to listen and able to hear--i think
it'd be great if we could work together to come up with something that
we all could use

i actually wrote up such a piece months ago for a couple of local
rescues, but to be honest i don't even have the time to look for it
now. any suggestions? links? leads?



On 8/29/05, Amy Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yet again, somebody has contacted me about helping out
> a leukemia positive kitty.  Sorry to always be
> dropping these on you guys but I just got married and
> then came home and adopted 2 more cats (1 FIV+ and 1
> FeLV+) the next day.  I'm out of room and I wanted to
> write and see if anybody can take this cat.  I'll set
> up transport if anybody has room for him.
> 
> Here is a copy of the e-mail I got about him.  I also
> have pictures of him that I will send to anybody that
> is interested.  I need to find somebody within a
> couple days or she will be euthanizing him.  He is in
> Rochester, NY but I'm willing to set up transport up
> to 8-10 hours away.
> 
> (copy of e-mail)
> 
> Dear Amy:
> 
> Per Judy Newman's (Habitat for Cats?) request, I am
> writing you to ask for your help, if you are able to
> at all.  You have no idea how much I appreciate the
> work you do for animals.  You are an angel.  Judy
> asked me to give you as much information about this
> cat as I could.
> 
> I have been feeding feral/homeless cats for over 3
> years now, every single morning at 5:30 am. (before
> the owners get there, as they are not the nicest
> people when it comes to compassion for these animals),
> through rain and snow, behind Lorraine's Restaurant on
> Culver and East Main.  I have seen quite a few
> different animals, but the one I am now speaking of
> just came about last Tuesday.  After putting the food
> and water out, this cute cat let me come close to it,
> then actually allowed me to scratch his head.  As I
> started to get up, he sidled up to my leg and started
> to follow me back to my car.  The next morning, I did
> not see him, but on Thursday, with cage in the back
> seat and a towel to grab it with, he allowed me to
> pick it up and I brought it home to my back bedroom,
> where, although a bit frightened, he let me pet him
> and he gobbled up food.
> 
> His demeanor is sweet.  At first, I thought it
> couldn't be homeless due to its sweet way, but the
> greasy coat, and matted fur, and malnourished body
> that the veterinarian told me told me this morning it
> had, convinced me otherwise.   At home I took a
> washcloth and tried to bathe it the best I could.  He
> even has started to play with strings.
> 
> I had made an appointment for it on Monday, today, the
> 22nd of August for its shots and neutering.  I have
> six other cats whom I have rescued over the years.  I
> was planning on trying to find a home for this one
> because as you know, its hard on the other cats in the
> house - especially when they are all so territorial
> already!  I brought the homeless kitty in this morning
> and the vet immediately called me to say they had it
> tested and it has feline leukemia.  Which broke  my
> heart.  I called Humane Society as I have heard of
> sanctuaries for these cats. They referred me to Judy
> Newman.
> 
> The reason this breaks my heart the most, is that this
> cat is less than a year old, has very beautiful green,
> loving eyes, purrs for me, plays with me, loves to be
> held and rub his nose against your face.  He is also
> litter trained.  He is like a black/brown striped
> medium to long haired beauty.  I love him already so
> much, but know I can't keep him with the other cats in
> the house.
> 
> The vet did the neutering procedure this morning, and
> gave him his rabies and distemper shot.  They also
> cleaned his mats out of fur.  I had him scheduled for
> 4 pm. to be put to sleep, but then received the call
> from Judy an ho

Leuk Positive Cat

2005-08-29 Thread Amy Wilkins

Yet again, somebody has contacted me about helping out
a leukemia positive kitty.  Sorry to always be
dropping these on you guys but I just got married and
then came home and adopted 2 more cats (1 FIV+ and 1
FeLV+) the next day.  I'm out of room and I wanted to
write and see if anybody can take this cat.  I'll set
up transport if anybody has room for him. 

Here is a copy of the e-mail I got about him.  I also
have pictures of him that I will send to anybody that
is interested.  I need to find somebody within a
couple days or she will be euthanizing him.  He is in
Rochester, NY but I'm willing to set up transport up
to 8-10 hours away. 

(copy of e-mail) 

Dear Amy: 

Per Judy Newman's (Habitat for Cats?) request, I am
writing you to ask for your help, if you are able to
at all.  You have no idea how much I appreciate the
work you do for animals.  You are an angel.  Judy
asked me to give you as much information about this
cat as I could. 

I have been feeding feral/homeless cats for over 3
years now, every single morning at 5:30 am. (before
the owners get there, as they are not the nicest
people when it comes to compassion for these animals),
through rain and snow, behind Lorraine's Restaurant on
Culver and East Main.  I have seen quite a few
different animals, but the one I am now speaking of
just came about last Tuesday.  After putting the food
and water out, this cute cat let me come close to it,
then actually allowed me to scratch his head.  As I
started to get up, he sidled up to my leg and started
to follow me back to my car.  The next morning, I did
not see him, but on Thursday, with cage in the back
seat and a towel to grab it with, he allowed me to
pick it up and I brought it home to my back bedroom,
where, although a bit frightened, he let me pet him
and he gobbled up food. 

His demeanor is sweet.  At first, I thought it
couldn't be homeless due to its sweet way, but the
greasy coat, and matted fur, and malnourished body
that the veterinarian told me told me this morning it
had, convinced me otherwise.   At home I took a
washcloth and tried to bathe it the best I could.  He
even has started to play with strings. 

I had made an appointment for it on Monday, today, the
22nd of August for its shots and neutering.  I have
six other cats whom I have rescued over the years.  I
was planning on trying to find a home for this one
because as you know, its hard on the other cats in the
house - especially when they are all so territorial
already!  I brought the homeless kitty in this morning
and the vet immediately called me to say they had it
tested and it has feline leukemia.  Which broke  my
heart.  I called Humane Society as I have heard of
sanctuaries for these cats. They referred me to Judy
Newman. 

The reason this breaks my heart the most, is that this
cat is less than a year old, has very beautiful green,
loving eyes, purrs for me, plays with me, loves to be
held and rub his nose against your face.  He is also
litter trained.  He is like a black/brown striped
medium to long haired beauty.  I love him already so
much, but know I can't keep him with the other cats in
the house. 

The vet did the neutering procedure this morning, and
gave him his rabies and distemper shot.  They also
cleaned his mats out of fur.  I had him scheduled for
4 pm. to be put to sleep, but then received the call
from Judy an hour ago saying there may be hope, with
you.  And I know that is a slight chance, but Amy, you
have no idea how much you have helped already, knowing
someone out there cares about something that they
haven't even seen.  If you had by now, you would be in
love.  He is just the sweetest.  I called the vet and
asked them to give him the name "Homey" for now, so
that he at least will have had a name in his short
life.  I just called the vet and told them I would be
picking up the cat today at 4pm, at least for a few
days, and am going to take him home and give him some
great meals and loving, until I hear back from you. 






Amy Wilkins 
Woof Wagon
www.woofwagon.com




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Re: Updated Bones Pictures




Bones definitely has full use of her tail! She likes to wag it like a dog 
when she is happy. In the picture of her under the cat tree, is actually IS 
wagging it right then, you just can't tell cause it's a still picture.
 
My Doobie cat has the same tail you are speaking of though. His tail was 
slammed in a heavy double-hung window (the balance weight 
malfunctioned) when he was about a year old, and it slammed down so solidly 
on it that he was TRAPPED, and flinging himself madly, swinging by his poor 
tail, screaming bloody murder. I ran in and opened the window as fast as I 
could, and he ran and hid. He never lost any use of his bowels, and it didn't 
appear broken (not crooked, anyways), so I never took him to the vet at the 
time, but I am convinced he at least dislocate it, if not fracture it a little. 
He has NEVER moved his tail since. He can lift it from the base, like you said, 
but it doesn't curl, bend, or flick at all, ever. It doesn't seem to bother him 
at all, and he can still pull it up along his body when he sleeps if he tries, 
but usually it just hangs limp where ever it falls, and drags behind him on the 
ground when he walks (or about an inch off the ground, if he's feeling frisky). 
He doesn't seem to CARE much where it is, unless another cat is attacking it, 
then he lifts it up REAL quickly!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: Updated Bones Pictures




Thank you! Yes, she is a very pretty girl! She sometime gets that Siamese 
"crossed eyes" look, which always makes me laugh!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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RE: Continuing on list....ATTN: Kerry & ALL!!!

Title: Message

Dear Patti
You have no idea how relieved I
am to hear this!
Thank you for the
speedy reassurance
big hugs,
Kerry

-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:01
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Continuing on
listATTN: Kerry & ALL!!!
Kerry & ALL you WONDERFUL, COMPASSINATE FELV LIST
MEMBERS,
PLEASE be assured, I have NO intentions of leaving
this list!
When I say. "YOU ARE ALL TRUELY THE MOST WONERFUL, SUPPORTIVE
GROUP OF PEOPLE I HAVE EVER come in contact with, I
mean that from the bottom of my heart!!!
I could NEVER leave this list, as I have had the fortune of
meeting so many wonderful people and developing "priceless
friendships."
I AM HERE TO STAY! I LOVE YOU ALL!!
Hugs & kisses,(sratchy feline kisses too!!!),
Patti
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RE: CLS - Twiggy

Title: Message

Joan,
please convey my deepest sympathy to Norrice on her sad loss of Twiggy.
Norrice was obviously a devoted and loving mom. I'm glad Twiggy knew what
it was to be loved and cared for so much in her short life.
Kerry

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:07
AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Cc: 'Raymaker, Norrice
(LEGAL)'Subject: CLS - Twiggy
Belinda,
Please add, my
friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was about
9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started
having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there
was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When she was rescued she
was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever
which would come and go. Norrice, had her to the vet, numerous times and
previously they could not find anything specifically wrong. This past
week though, the blood work showed that Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a
high white blood count, elevated liver enzyme levels, and a high
globulin count. She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She
was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was
named "Twiggy". "Twiggy" came from a house with many unaltered animals
(now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from
FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's
life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much
caring..
Thank
you,
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CLS Monday August 29, 2005


   Hi All,
 Here is the service for August 29th, 2005.  My deepest sympathies to 
those who have lost a furchild.  And prayers and healing to those who 
are not doing well.  Take care all.


FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

Re: Kerry & Nina - OT- a story of mama and the babies

oh, hideyo--

blessings upon blessings to you.

jasmine was clearly just waiting for you to come reclaim her (even if
YOU didn't think you knew her, she DEFINITELY knew you!)--

i cannot begin to tell you how much i needed to see this story right now.

thank you so much for, well, just being.


-- 
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
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RE: To barbara, Kerry and Nina - OT- a story of mama and the babies









Hi, Barbara, thank you for reading a story
of Jasmine and her babies – I don’t know if the entire story made
sense to you – 

But a person who delivers me cat/dog food
every week, called me and she has a side job which she goes to inspect vacant
apartments for the landlords/owners and found a mama cat and the babies –
and she couldn’t take them home with her, so in stead she took them to
the pound…

 

And you know the rest of the story –
Jasmine is such a eloquent beautiful black kitty, she has almost looks like “eye
blows” on her eyes, which makes her look very human and elegant like..

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:56
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Kerry & Nina -
OT- a story of mama and the babies



 



Oh Hideyo, thank you so much for being who you are!  I have tears
in my eyes right now and am sending GLOW to your Jasmine and her babies and you
and the rest of your brood!  Give them all an extra kiss or three from me!





 





<<<

Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Hi, Kerry –

I don’t know why but I did not get
your email message that you sent to me last Thursday – it’s very
frustrating!  I am sorry that I did not respond to you sooner, I was out
sick Thurs & Friday – and the computer at home is not working right
now so I couldn’t check the messages until this morning – would you
try to re forward it to me again when you get home, I would love to read it.

 

Nina called me at home yesterday, so I
sort of updated her with what happened, but I am going to copy her on this
anyway….

 

Kerry, once I heard what happened to the
mother kitty and her four babies, I couldn’t sleep at night because I was
so sad and so mad with people who abandoned her in the apartment with no food
or water for over a week, leaving her no choice to but to die…..–
the mother kitty still continued to nurse her babies without her having
anything to eat for her own just so that she could keep the babies survive
– she could have refused to nurse the babies, which would have given her
a better chance for to survive, but instead, she continued to nurse until she
got so skinny, to bone and skin – she struggled to get out of the apartment
(they could tell since the blinds were messed up at the window) and she
probably thought she was going to die soon –

 

Anyway, I just couldn’t let her die
– there might have been a slight chance that she could have been adopted
at the pound – but NM is a very very poor state when coming to education
of taking care of animals, there are hundreds and hundreds of kittens, and
hundreds and hundreds of adult kitties a the pound, people leave them behind
without neutering or spaying them all the time even if they had belong to them
for years..… it’s just an uneducated and irresponsible people in
the state and her chance of being adopted was very very slim…if it was
not none…

 

So, I (and my neighbor) went to the pound
to re-claim that the mama kitty and her kittens were mine – They had made
a note in her record as “aggressive cat” – so they asked if
we could hold her while they micro chip her as they thought she was going to
bite – here we are, the kitty we never had seen in our lives, pretending
like we know her so that we can take her home  now we have to hold her and
I had no idea how she was going to re-act, she has been very protective of her
4 kittens which are only about three weeks old.  Anyway, she was in an
incubator with her kittens – and I reached out to her and talked to her,
“Jasmine, (that’s the name I called), are you ready to come home
with me, I am here to take you and your babies home..) – and she looked
at me, and she meowed very softly and affectionately ---and the guy at the
pound said,,”oh..good she remembers you..” – I held her while
he microchiped her, which time, she stayed very calm in my arms…

 

I took her to the vet and everything is
fine.. she only weighs 5.5lb- really skinny, but the babies are all doing good
-  I just have to give her lots of calories so that she can gain weight
for her to get better and continue to nurse the babies – she is a
beautiful black kitty – I almost did not go to the pound to get her
simply because, I just couldn’t afford to have more cats  but I
couldn’t live with myself if I did not …so that’s the story
of Jasmine and her babies..









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005
11:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Hideyo - OT



 



Hideyo - wondering
if you got any of my offlist emails in the last few days or whether (again) our
computers/servers aren't communicating? 





Hoping you and your
brood are ok~~please let me know~~Kerry







Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living
his life, doing what pleases him, and making

Re: Fw: Update on Gigi the cat





Jenn,
I'm thrilled about Gigi and Bone's updates.  Thanks for the incredible
news and the hopeful news.  You probably told us how exceptionally cute
that little Bones is, but a picture is worth a thousand words!
Nina

Jenn wrote:

  
  
  
   
  
- Original Message - 
  
  From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:01 AM
  Subject: [CritterConvoys] Update on Gig the cat
  
  
  
  
  Sorry if there are typos but I am crying some tears of small joy
this morning.
   
  Just off of the phone with the vet and they finally followed
what I insisted they do and treat
  Gigi for snake bite.  She has had major goof balls of
antibiotics, injections and drains put into her leg.
   
  This morning there is a tiny bit of movement in her foot
although very swollen still, her other leg has not progressed and shows
some signs of improvement.  The puncture wound to her neck is closing
up.
   
  Please keep those positive prayers and good thoughts coming her
way, it seems to be helping.
   
  She has a long way to go but at least now there is hope
   
  Joyce
   
  
Forgotten Friends Pet Rescue, Inc
6930 State Route 10
Sharon Springs, NY 13459
  
  call: 518-284-2655 to see how you can
help keep an animal alive. Sponsor a pet.
  
  
  

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RE: Kerry & Nina - OT- a story of mama and the babies

2005-08-29 Thread Barb Moermond

Oh Hideyo, thank you so much for being who you are!  I have tears in my eyes right now and am sending GLOW to your Jasmine and her babies and you and the rest of your brood!  Give them all an extra kiss or three from me!
 
<< wrote:









Hi, Kerry 
I dont know why but I did not get your email message that you sent to me last Thursday  its very frustrating!  I am sorry that I did not respond to you sooner, I was out sick Thurs & Friday  and the computer at home is not working right now so I couldnt check the messages until this morning  would you try to re forward it to me again when you get home, I would love to read it.
 
Nina called me at home yesterday, so I sort of updated her with what happened, but I am going to copy her on this anyway.
 
Kerry, once I heard what happened to the mother kitty and her four babies, I couldnt sleep at night because I was so sad and so mad with people who abandoned her in the apartment with no food or water for over a week, leaving her no choice to but to die.. the mother kitty still continued to nurse her babies without her having anything to eat for her own just so that she could keep the babies survive  she could have refused to nurse the babies, which would have given her a better chance for to survive, but instead, she continued to nurse until she got so skinny, to bone and skin  she struggled to get out of the apartment (they could tell since the blinds were messed up at the window) and she probably thought she was going to die soon 
 
Anyway, I just couldnt let her die  there might have been a slight chance that she could have been adopted at the pound  but NM is a very very poor state when coming to education of taking care of animals, there are hundreds and hundreds of kittens, and hundreds and hundreds of adult kitties a the pound, people leave them behind without neutering or spaying them all the time even if they had belong to them for years.. its just an uneducated and irresponsible people in the state and her chance of being adopted was very very slimif it was not none
 
So, I (and my neighbor) went to the pound to re-claim that the mama kitty and her kittens were mine  They had made a note in her record as aggressive cat  so they asked if we could hold her while they micro chip her as they thought she was going to bite  here we are, the kitty we never had seen in our lives, pretending like we know her so that we can take her home  now we have to hold her and I had no idea how she was going to re-act, she has been very protective of her 4 kittens which are only about three weeks old.  Anyway, she was in an incubator with her kittens  and I reached out to her and talked to her, Jasmine, (thats the name I called), are you ready to come home with me, I am here to take you and your babies home..)  and she looked at me, and she meowed very softly and affectionately ---and the guy at the pound said,,oh..good she
 remembers you..  I held her while he microchiped her, which time, she stayed very calm in my arms
 
I took her to the vet and everything is fine.. she only weighs 5.5lb- really skinny, but the babies are all doing good -  I just have to give her lots of calories so that she can gain weight for her to get better and continue to nurse the babies  she is a beautiful black kitty  I almost did not go to the pound to get her simply because, I just couldnt afford to have more cats  but I couldnt live with myself if I did not so thats the story of Jasmine and her babies..




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzieSent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:26 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Hideyo - OT
 

Hideyo - wondering if you got any of my offlist emails in the last few days or whether (again) our computers/servers aren't communicating? 

Hoping you and your brood are ok~~please let me know~~KerryBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa





Lisa, while you are at the store.  Pick up some babyfood.  Meat and
broth, no veggies, no garlic, no onion.  Beechnut is better that
Gerbers, because Gerbers has corn starch.  Sometimes heating it just a
bit brings out the aroma and gets kitties interested in eating. 
Sometimes just a tiny bit on a flat dish, sometimes putting it in front
of their face again and again...  You get the idea.  Let us know how
you and Cloud are doing.
Nina

Lisa Ward wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Thank you
again Michelle,
   
I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the
liver
shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind
of syrup,
can I buy this a the food store? Lisa

Re: Cloud - anemia

A blood transfusion comes to mind immediately. I can't believe your vet would 
send
home a cat with WHITE gums WITHOUT doing a transfusion, actually (or at LEAST 
some
supplements, and telling you of the OPTION of transfusion). I agree with Tad, 
your
vet sounds like she/he is bordering on malpractice. Do you have any other cats? 
It
may be possible that your vet does not stock blood, or have any donor cats 
available
(and didn't inform you of this option because it isn't an option at HIS/HER 
clinic).
If you have another cat or two, they could be blood typed to see if they could 
be
donors for Cloud. Otherwise, I'd be immediately calling around other area vet's 
until
I found one that:

1. knows what hemobartonella is, and can do the test for it.
2. has the blood on hand and can do transfusions in their office.
3. doesn't give you any excuses about "leukemia kicking in", and seems willing 
to
aggressively FIGHT to save Cloud's life.

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
Adopt a FIV+ cat:
http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
~~~
I believe she only had the FeLV test, they said when the cat gums turn
white, they are very anemic. If they are indeed anemic, does that means it
white blood cells are take over the red blood cells? Is there anything that
you know of that can be given to her to help her, if indeed this is here
problem...Lisa



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Re: Fw: Update on Gigi the cat

 Please let Joyce know we continue praying for a full recovery and are 
very happy Joyce didn't give up and convinced her vet to finally listen 
to her!!


--
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Re: Updated Bones Pictures

Oh, what a doll!!  Her progress mirrors our Mags' progress so closely 
it's almost scary!!  Maggie showed up at my gallery emaciated and with 
a broken spine (just above her pelvic bone)...she couldn't lift her 
tail at all and had to pull her way onto surfaces with her front paws 
because she couldn't jump!  Now, Mags is the highest jumper in the 
bunch!  She can lift her tail at the base, so her whole tail sort of 
arches, but she can't lift it fully...does Bones have full use of her 
tail, now?

Thanks for sharing!



"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
Chief Dan George



I got some new pics of Bones, my June rescue kitty that had a broken 
spine. I made a little before/after page with a few of her pics. Just wanted to 
brag on how GREAT she's doing!
http://ucat.us/Bones-Recovery.html
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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RE: Updated Bones Pictures

Title: Message

Your story and pix of Bones' progress are
wonderful, Jenn. She looks so darn cute too. It's amazing that she's made full
recovery from a broken spine. You definitely win bragging rights on her behalf!
Kerry
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On Behalf Of JennSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:10
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:
Updated Bones Pictures
I got some new pics of Bones, my June rescue kitty that had a broken
spine. I made a little before/after page with a few of her pics. Just wanted to
brag on how GREAT she's doing!
http://ucat.us/Bones-Recovery.html
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a
FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
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Fw: Update on Gigi the cat

2005-08-29 Thread Jenn

- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: [CritterConvoys] Update on Gig the cat

Sorry if there are typos but I am crying some tears of small joy this 
morning.

Just off of the phone with the vet and they finally followed what I 
insisted they do and treat
Gigi for snake bite.  She has had major goof balls of antibiotics, 
injections and drains put into her leg.

This morning there is a tiny bit of movement in her foot although very 
swollen still, her other leg has not progressed and shows some signs of 
improvement.  The puncture wound to her neck is closing up.

Please keep those positive prayers and good thoughts coming her way, it 
seems to be helping.

She has a long way to go but at least now there is hope

Joyce

Forgotten Friends Pet Rescue, Inc6930 State Route 
10Sharon Springs, NY 13459call: 518-284-2655 to see 
how you can help keep an animal alive. Sponsor a pet.
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Re: Updated Bones Pictures

AWWW!



On 8/29/05, Jenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> I got some new pics of Bones, my June rescue kitty that had a broken spine.
> I made a little before/after page with a few of her pics. Just wanted to
> brag on how GREAT she's doing! 
> http://ucat.us/Bones-Recovery.html 
> 
> Jenn
> http://ucat.us
> http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
> Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
> http://ucat.us/adopt.html  
> Adopt a FIV+ cat: 
> http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/
> http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
> Adopt a FELV+ cat:
> http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
> ~~~
> I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat
> who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
> Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up
> until she earns a free can of formula!
> PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! 
>   
> If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you
> can send them to, to help feed Bazil! 
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Re: Updated Bones Pictures

2005-08-29 Thread Barb Moermond

Oh Jenn, they're wonderful  She's so beautiful and looks very comfy and happy now!Jenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I got some new pics of Bones, my June rescue kitty that had a broken spine. I made a little before/after page with a few of her pics. Just wanted to brag on how GREAT she's doing!
http://ucat.us/Bones-Recovery.html
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
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RE: Kerry & Nina - OT- a story of mama and the babies--for Hideyo

Title: Message



Dear 
Hideyo--
 
Very 
glad to hear from you!
 
I just 
sent you an email in 2 parts to your address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Let me 
know whether you get them~~~
 
Kerry

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:52 
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Kerry & 
Nina - OT- a story of mama and the babies

Hi, Kerry 
–
I don’t know why but I 
did not get your email message that you sent to me last Thursday – it’s very 
frustrating!  I am sorry that I did not respond to you sooner, I was out 
sick Thurs & Friday – and the computer at home is not working right now so I 
couldn’t check the messages until this morning – would you try to re forward it 
to me again when you get home, I would love to read 
it.
 
Nina called me at home 
yesterday, so I sort of updated her with what happened, but I am going to copy 
her on this anyway….
 
Kerry, once I heard 
what happened to the mother kitty and her four babies, I couldn’t sleep at night 
because I was so sad and so mad with people who abandoned her in the apartment 
with no food or water for over a week, leaving her no choice to but to die…..– 
the mother kitty still continued to nurse her babies without her having anything 
to eat for her own just so that she could keep the babies survive – she could 
have refused to nurse the babies, which would have given her a better chance for 
to survive, but instead, she continued to nurse until she got so skinny, to bone 
and skin – she struggled to get out of the apartment (they could tell since the 
blinds were messed up at the window) and she probably thought she was going to 
die soon –
 
Anyway, I just couldn’t 
let her die – there might have been a slight chance that she could have been 
adopted at the pound – but NM is a very very poor state when coming to education 
of taking care of animals, there are hundreds and hundreds of kittens, and 
hundreds and hundreds of adult kitties a the pound, people leave them behind 
without neutering or spaying them all the time even if they had belong to them 
for years..… it’s just an uneducated and irresponsible people in the state and 
her chance of being adopted was very very slim…if it was not 
none…
 
So, I (and my neighbor) 
went to the pound to re-claim that the mama kitty and her kittens were mine – 
They had made a note in her record as “aggressive cat” – so they asked if we 
could hold her while they micro chip her as they thought she was going to bite – 
here we are, the kitty we never had seen in our lives, pretending like we know 
her so that we can take her home  now we have to hold her and I had no idea 
how she was going to re-act, she has been very protective of her 4 kittens which 
are only about three weeks old.  Anyway, she was in an incubator with her 
kittens – and I reached out to her and talked to her, “Jasmine, (that’s the name 
I called), are you ready to come home with me, I am here to take you and your 
babies home..) – and she looked at me, and she meowed very softly and 
affectionately ---and the guy at the pound said,,”oh..good she remembers 
you..” – I held her while he microchiped her, which time, she stayed very calm 
in my arms…
 
I took her to the vet 
and everything is fine.. she only weighs 5.5lb- really skinny, but the babies 
are all doing good -  I just have to give her lots of calories so that she 
can gain weight for her to get better and continue to nurse the babies – she is 
a beautiful black kitty – I almost did not go to the pound to get her simply 
because, I just couldn’t afford to have more cats  but I couldn’t live with 
myself if I did not …so that’s the story of Jasmine and her 
babies..




From: 
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OT
 

Hideyo 
- wondering if you got any of my offlist emails in the last few days or 
whether (again) our computers/servers aren't communicating? 


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brood are ok~~please let me 
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Updated Bones Pictures

2005-08-29 Thread Jenn




I got some new pics of Bones, my June rescue kitty that had a broken 
spine. I made a little before/after page with a few of her pics. Just wanted to 
brag on how GREAT she's doing!
http://ucat.us/Bones-Recovery.html
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa









Thank you, I will let you know tomorrow,
what is happening..Lisa

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:12
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

 





Kelp is a seaweed and spirulina is
an algae. You can buy them both in powder or capsule (which can be opened) form
at a health food store and at some supermarkets in the vitamin section. 
If you can't get these easily they are not essential to the recipe-- they
provide extra vitamins and minerals, but right now the most important thing is
to get food into him, any food you can. 





Michelle





 





In a message dated 8/29/05 3:08:06
PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Thank you again Michelle,

 
I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver shake
you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup, can I
buy this a the food store? Lisa

Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa




Kelp is a seaweed and spirulina is an algae. You can buy them both in powder or capsule (which can be opened) form at a health food store and at some supermarkets in the vitamin section.  If you can't get these easily they are not essential to the recipe-- they provide extra vitamins and minerals, but right now the most important thing is to get food into him, any food you can. 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 8/29/05 3:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank you again Michelle,
  I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup, can I buy this a the food store? Lisa

RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa









Thank you again Michelle,

 
I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver
shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup,
can I buy this a the food store? Lisa

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:52
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

 





To give water to a cat, we usually
give subutaneous fluids, which a vet needs to give you and show you how to
give. The liver shake has a lot of liquid in it. If Cloud eat it or you syringe
it, I would not worry about syringing water orally.  When you next see a
vet, though, you might want to ask about sub-q fluids. They are  not hard
to give. The thing with anemia is, though, that if you hydrate then too much
they feel more anemic because it thins the blood. So right now I would focus on
food and getting a real diagnosis and probably some steroids and antibiotics.





Michelle





 





In a message dated 8/29/05 2:48:35
PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Thank you Michelle, 

  
I am going to go get the stuff to make this in about 1.5 hrs...Thank
youMaybe Cloud will eat this...What about water, should I be feeding Cloud
water also? Lisa

Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Tad Burnett





Hill's A/D with a little tomato juice add is almost the
same thing as liver shake...
But you have to get the A/D from a vet...The important thing is to get
something into him ASAP...NOW
If he will drink water let him...or anything he will eat
 
I agree it was almost malpractice to send him home without at least
these instructions..
Finding a vet that is FeLV friendly is important ... many are not...
Tad


Lisa Ward wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Thank you
Michelle, 
    
I am going to go get the stuff to make this in about 1.5 hrs...Thank
youMaybe
Cloud will eat this...What about water, should I be feeding Cloud water
also? Lisa
   
  -Original
Message-
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, August
29, 2005 2:42
PM
  To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: CLS -
Twiggy--Lisa
   
  
  
  The liver
shake does have iron in
it, but iron deficiency is almost never the cause of anemia in cats so
it will
not help the anemia itself. it is good because they will often eat it
when they
will not eat other things, and it is nutrient-rich so they need less
volume of
it than other foods (60 ml a day).
  
  
  Michelle
  
  
   
  
  
  In a
message dated 8/29/05 2:39:06
PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
The liver
shake is 
a recipe which has liver as the main ingredient, I will find it and
post 
it to the list, coming right up.  It is good for cats who are anemic, 
but the best thing is to see an internal specialist as suggested and 
find out why Cloud is anemic.

RE: [CRF] Help find a home for a rescue kitty named "Gandalf"

I am also forwarding your message to other support groups to see if they
can help him find a home for the orange boy, too.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CRF] Help find a home for a rescue kitty named "Gandalf"

I hope this is ok to post (I have permission to cross-post) but we 
are trying to find a good home for  Gandalf. I have also posted 
Mike's email address if you, or someone you know, can help this poor 
guy out.
Thanks,
Brenda
-

Hi,

I volunteer with a rescue group in Southern California called Pet 
Pro 
Life.  We have had a cat in our organization since April 2004.  He 
is 
a nice cat (light orange medium hair) who has partial kidney 
function.  We have to hydrate him once a week and he is on a special 
diet.  He is depressed because he doesn't have a home.

Can anyone help?

Thank you,

Mike
-

Hello Brenda,

Yes, please post Gandalf's plight to as many possible sites as 
possible.  And yes, I can be contacted at this email address.

Or anyone could send an email to Fran at [EMAIL PROTECTED] because 
she is spearheading Gandalf getting a home.

Thank you,

Mike
Pet Pro Life

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Help! - Need a home for a 8 wk old felv+ kitten









I know of a person who takes in kittens that people find or
rescue and raise them, and socialize them and adopt them out –

She recently took in an 8 week old kitten who was tested for
a very weak positive on FelV – she is mixing with her other adult cats (9
of them) and another kitten who is negative – she is hoping that he can
fight off the virus and will test negative in a few weeks (if not in 6b months)
- --

 

But if he does not, because of her nature of work (rescuing
kittens), and if she can’t find a home (which again, it will be very
difficult in here because of NM being  uneducated society, sort of), she
will need to euthanize the kitten – the kitten is asymptomatic and I offered
that I will send a message out to you guys to see if anyone might be able to
adopt him whether he is negative or positive in a long run – he is such a
sweet baby – 

 

Please let me know if you or know someone who can give him a
chance to live… thank yoU!

 

PS – I know you may not agree with what she is
planning to do (which I don’t agree) – but I can’t make her
change her mind, because she will risk other kittens – and she does not
believe in caging him or isolating him…

RE: Kerry & Nina - OT- a story of mama and the babies

Title: Message








Hi, Kerry –

I don’t know why but I did not get
your email message that you sent to me last Thursday – it’s very
frustrating!  I am sorry that I did not respond to you sooner, I was out
sick Thurs & Friday – and the computer at home is not working right
now so I couldn’t check the messages until this morning – would you
try to re forward it to me again when you get home, I would love to read it.

 

Nina called me at home yesterday, so I
sort of updated her with what happened, but I am going to copy her on this
anyway….

 

Kerry, once I heard what happened to the
mother kitty and her four babies, I couldn’t sleep at night because I was
so sad and so mad with people who abandoned her in the apartment with no food
or water for over a week, leaving her no choice to but to die…..–
the mother kitty still continued to nurse her babies without her having
anything to eat for her own just so that she could keep the babies survive –
she could have refused to nurse the babies, which would have given her a better
chance for to survive, but instead, she continued to nurse until she got so
skinny, to bone and skin – she struggled to get out of the apartment
(they could tell since the blinds were messed up at the window) and she
probably thought she was going to die soon –

 

Anyway, I just couldn’t let her die –
there might have been a slight chance that she could have been adopted at the
pound – but NM is a very very poor state when coming to education of
taking care of animals, there are hundreds and hundreds of kittens, and
hundreds and hundreds of adult kitties a the pound, people leave them behind
without neutering or spaying them all the time even if they had belong to them
for years..… it’s just an uneducated and irresponsible people in
the state and her chance of being adopted was very very slim…if it was
not none…

 

So, I (and my neighbor) went to the pound
to re-claim that the mama kitty and her kittens were mine – They had made
a note in her record as “aggressive cat” – so they asked if
we could hold her while they micro chip her as they thought she was going to
bite – here we are, the kitty we never had seen in our lives, pretending
like we know her so that we can take her home  now we have to hold her and
I had no idea how she was going to re-act, she has been very protective of her
4 kittens which are only about three weeks old.  Anyway, she was in an
incubator with her kittens – and I reached out to her and talked to her, “Jasmine,
(that’s the name I called), are you ready to come home with me, I am here
to take you and your babies home..) – and she looked at me, and she
meowed very softly and affectionately ---and the guy at the pound said,,”oh..good
she remembers you..” – I held her while he microchiped her, which
time, she stayed very calm in my arms…

 

I took her to the vet and everything is
fine.. she only weighs 5.5lb- really skinny, but the babies are all doing good
-  I just have to give her lots of calories so that she can gain weight for
her to get better and continue to nurse the babies – she is a beautiful black
kitty – I almost did not go to the pound to get her simply because, I
just couldn’t afford to have more cats  but I couldn’t live
with myself if I did not …so that’s the story of Jasmine and her
babies..









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005
11:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Hideyo - OT



 



Hideyo - wondering
if you got any of my offlist emails in the last few days or whether (again) our
computers/servers aren't communicating? 





Hoping you and your
brood are ok~~please let me know~~Kerry

Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa




To give water to a cat, we usually give subutaneous fluids, which a vet needs to give you and show you how to give. The liver shake has a lot of liquid in it. If Cloud eat it or you syringe it, I would not worry about syringing water orally.  When you next see a vet, though, you might want to ask about sub-q fluids. They are  not hard to give. The thing with anemia is, though, that if you hydrate then too much they feel more anemic because it thins the blood. So right now I would focus on food and getting a real diagnosis and probably some steroids and antibiotics.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 8/29/05 2:48:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank you Michelle, 
   I am going to go get the stuff to make this in about 1.5 hrs...Thank youMaybe Cloud will eat this...What about water, should I be feeding Cloud water also? Lisa

RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa









Thank you Michelle, 

  
I am going to go get the stuff to make this in about 1.5 hrs...Thank youMaybe
Cloud will eat this...What about water, should I be feeding Cloud water
also? Lisa

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:42
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

 





The liver shake does have iron in
it, but iron deficiency is almost never the cause of anemia in cats so it will
not help the anemia itself. it is good because they will often eat it when they
will not eat other things, and it is nutrient-rich so they need less volume of
it than other foods (60 ml a day).





Michelle





 





In a message dated 8/29/05 2:39:06
PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





The liver shake is 
a recipe which has liver as the main ingredient, I will find it and post 
it to the list, coming right up.  It is good for cats who are anemic, 
but the best thing is to see an internal specialist as suggested and 
find out why Cloud is anemic.

Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa




The liver shake does have iron in it, but iron deficiency is almost never the cause of anemia in cats so it will not help the anemia itself. it is good because they will often eat it when they will not eat other things, and it is nutrient-rich so they need less volume of it than other foods (60 ml a day).
Michelle
 
In a message dated 8/29/05 2:39:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The liver shake is a recipe which has liver as the main ingredient, I will find it and post it to the list, coming right up.  It is good for cats who are anemic, but the best thing is to see an internal specialist as suggested and find out why Cloud is anemic.

Liver Shake


 OK, I see Michelle has already posted it.

--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

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Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa


  Hi Lisa,
  No Doxocycline is not the same as Amoxocylin, doxo is one of the 
preferred antibiotics used where hemo is diagnosed.  The liver shake is 
a recipe which has liver as the main ingredient, I will find it and post 
it to the list, coming right up.  It is good for cats who are anemic, 
but the best thing is to see an internal specialist as suggested and 
find out why Cloud is anemic.


--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

HostDesign4U.com  (affordable hosting & web design)
http://HostDesign4U.com

---

BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)
http://bmk.bemikitties.com

Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa




Liver shake is a recipe for food that will tempt many cats who will not otherwise eat. Here is the recipe:
 
1 cup raw liver
1 cup V-8, tomato juice, or fresh carrot juice
1/4 cup water
1 raw egg yoke
1 teaspoon kelp or spirulina
 
Blend in blender until liquid and frothy. Heat a little in a bowl until warm, and offer it to Cloud. If Cloud won't eat it, put a little on her mouth to lick off. This might get her going (it worked with Simon and he became a big fan of the shake). If she still won't eat it, syringe about 20 cc's of it into three times a day. It is complete nutrition.  You can also get A/D, a prescription food that is palatable, high in calories, and easy to syringe feed, at the vet's.
 
Dox is different than amoxicylliin-- it is broader spectrum.  
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 8/29/05 2:20:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is a liver shake? Shall I puree raw liver and syringe feed it to her?What is hemobartenella? The vet mentioned nothing of the sort. Isdoxocylcline the same as amoxicillian...? Lisa

Re: your kitty Cloud

2005-08-29 Thread Tad Burnett





Vitamins and good food are a good place to start
Hills A/D...


Lisa Ward wrote:

  Hello,
 The vet said he is very anemic, no energy, does not want to eat at all
today.Do you know of anything that can be done for anemia, the vet says
nothing can be done? Thanking you for your help...Lisa 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: your kitty Cloud

Hi Lisa,  Love that name Cloud  too - just wondering, does Cloud have 
Lymphoma, Anemia, or what?  I had two die of lymphoma.  One, I think, 
Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, before I 
could get a handle on it and get him to the vet.

Gloria





At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote:
  
  
I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy



  Belinda,

Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP
early Saturday
morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she
waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
somewhat sickly,
she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.
Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they
could not find
anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work
showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood
count, elevated
liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative
for both
feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she
never ate
much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came
from a
house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and
some kitten
deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her
to a
better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one
filled with
love and much caring..
Thank you,

Joan

Re: your kitty Cloud

I'm not sure I was clear here.  Lisa, if I were you, I'd call my regular 
vet that has seen Cloud and read them Michelle's email and ask them 
about the Dox and the steroid shots.  Since they are already involved in 
Cloud's care, (you still need the Internist), they can prescribe 
quicker, you need to move on this right this minute.

Nina

Nina wrote:

Hooray!  Michelle's here!  Lisa, listen to Michelle, she knows what 
she is talking about.  You need to get Cloud to a vet that will help 
you.  It sounds like tests were run and that (from your description), 
Cloud is battling an auto-immune problem.  Your regular vet has given 
up too easily.  If they can't refer you to an Internist today, (a 
specialist), then ask them about giving the steroid shots Michelle is 
talking about.  Print out her email and read it to them.  Find that 
specialist and tell them it's an emergency and you need an appointment 
asap.  Go sit in their waiting room if you have to.

Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lisa, that "diagnosis" does not make any sense. Unless they meant she 
is killing her own red blood cells, in which case she needs steroids 
fast (dexamethasone and depomedrol). You need to get her to an 
internist and also you need to syringe feed her some food. Cats can 
die from fatty liver disease if they do  not eat, and they can get it 
within 48 hours of stopping eating. We have all been through this, 
and believe me you need to get food into her until you can get her a 
proper diagnosis and some treatment.

Michelle
 
In a message dated 8/29/05 1:55:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hello,
 Cloud is 4 years old, she has not been acting herself, on
Friday, that
just passed, I noticed that she was not eating and having a hard 
time

getting around, very weakI took her to the vet they did a
blood test,
and said she had feline leukemia. They said that her white blood
cells were
taking over her red blood cells, which was making her so weak and
tired, and
she really need to be put to sleep. She does not appear to be in
any pain,
except for being so tired and weak.Lisa

RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

What is a liver shake? Shall I puree raw liver and syringe feed it to her?
What is hemobartenella? The vet mentioned nothing of the sort. Is
doxocylcline the same as amoxicillian...? Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Belinda Sauro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

   Is he getting supplemented with pet tinnic or has your vet suggested 
a transfusion, the liver shake is also good for this.  I hope to God 
your vet did tests to see if the anemia is regenerative or 
non-regenerative, if not get a new vet ASAP and have tests done for 
hemobartenella, infact I would get Cloud on doxocylcline just to be safe 
it won't hurt him and couls well save his life if it is hemo.

And most important if Cloud is not eating YOU MUST syringe feed, any 
sick cat that doesn't get enough food will not have the strength to 
fight off anything and WILL have firther complications from not getting 
enough nutrition which will eventually kill it no matter how much 
medication you are giving it.  Nothing but food will cure Fatty Liver 
Disease, something inappetent cats get all too frequently while the vets 
hem and haw about other things going on and the owners have no idea how 
dangerous not eating can be for cats!!

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

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Re: your kitty Cloud

Hooray!  Michelle's here!  Lisa, listen to Michelle, she knows what she 
is talking about.  You need to get Cloud to a vet that will help you.  
It sounds like tests were run and that (from your description), Cloud is 
battling an auto-immune problem.  Your regular vet has given up too 
easily.  If they can't refer you to an Internist today, (a specialist), 
then ask them about giving the steroid shots Michelle is talking about.  
Print out her email and read it to them.  Find that specialist and tell 
them it's an emergency and you need an appointment asap.  Go sit in 
their waiting room if you have to.

Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lisa, that "diagnosis" does not make any sense. Unless they meant she 
is killing her own red blood cells, in which case she needs steroids 
fast (dexamethasone and depomedrol). You need to get her to an 
internist and also you need to syringe feed her some food. Cats can 
die from fatty liver disease if they do  not eat, and they can get it 
within 48 hours of stopping eating. We have all been through this, and 
believe me you need to get food into her until you can get her a 
proper diagnosis and some treatment.

Michelle
 
In a message dated 8/29/05 1:55:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hello,
 Cloud is 4 years old, she has not been acting herself, on
Friday, that
just passed, I noticed that she was not eating and having a hard time
getting around, very weakI took her to the vet they did a
blood test,
and said she had feline leukemia. They said that her white blood
cells were
taking over her red blood cells, which was making her so weak and
tired, and
she really need to be put to sleep. She does not appear to be in
any pain,
except for being so tired and weak.Lisa

Cloud



Lisa,
   I actually think Nina is right-- while looking for an internist and trying to get a fast appointment, call your regular vet and ask him to prescribe some basic treatments. I would ask him to prescribe doxicycline (in case it is Hemobarnonella) and dexamethasone (in case it is an auto-immune reaction) and to start Cloud on Immuno-Regulin shots.  The only problem with giving dexamethasone is that if it is lymphoma and you might want to do chemo, they say to wait on steroids until the chemo is started. Dexamethasone helps shrink lymphoma, but can make chemo less effective.
Michelle

Re: your kitty Cloud




Lisa, that "diagnosis" does not make any sense. Unless they meant she is killing her own red blood cells, in which case she needs steroids fast (dexamethasone and depomedrol). You need to get her to an internist and also you need to syringe feed her some food. Cats can die from fatty liver disease if they do  not eat, and they can get it within 48 hours of stopping eating. We have all been through this, and believe me you need to get food into her until you can get her a proper diagnosis and some treatment.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 8/29/05 1:55:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,     Cloud is 4 years old, she has not been acting herself, on Friday, thatjust passed, I noticed that she was not eating and having a hard timegetting around, very weakI took her to the vet they did a blood test,and said she had feline leukemia. They said that her white blood cells weretaking over her red blood cells, which was making her so weak and tired, andshe really need to be put to sleep. She does not appear to be in any pain,except for being so tired and weak.Lisa

Re: your kitty Cloud


The vet said he is very anemic, no energy, does not want to eat at all

today.Do you know of anything that can be done for anemia, the vet says
nothing can be done? Thanking you for your help...Lisa  >

Number one get a new vet, what tests has Cloud had?  What kind of anemia does 
Cloud have, if your vet can't tell you he didn't do any tests, and is saying 
nothing can be done ONLY because Cloud is positive and he either has no 
knowledge about treating a positive cat, or has a GOD complex and feels 
positive cats aren't worth saving, and therefore will do nothing ... either way 
you need a new vet ASAP.

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Re: your kitty Cloud

Lisa,
There is always something that can be done for anemia, though it sometimes works and sometimes does not. But it depends on what is causing the anemia. You have to get Cloud to a different vet-- hopefully a board-certified internist at a hospital or university or big clinic or veterinary referral center-- and get a real diagnosis. Here are some possibilities with the treatments they need:
1. Hemobartonella is a blood parasite that can cause severe anemia and kill them, but if caught in time and treated with antibiotics it can be cured or held at bay. It is identifiable through a blood screen, though sometimes is hard to detect.
2. Auto-immune reaction-- sometimes cats have auto-immune reactions where they destroy their own red blood cells. The treatment for this is steroids. A list member had a cat with this and depomedrol injections for six months cured it.
3. Lymphoma-- this is a cancer that FeLV+ cats are susceptible to, and it can enter their bone marrow and cause anemia. The treatment is chemotherapy and/or heavy doses of steroids. Once it is in the bone marrow it is difficult to get them into complete remission, but treatment with chemo and/or steroids can give them a few months and make them feel a lot better.
4. Leukemia the cancer, as opposed to the virus. It can cause anemia and is not as controllable as lymphoma. It is generally a bad diagnosis to get, but it can be held at bay for a little while through steroids and/or chemo sometimes. Only one cat on this list has been definitively diagnosed with this, to my knowledge.
5. Kidney problems. The kidneys make a hormone that stimulates the bone marrow to make red blood cells, and when they don't work right sometimes the bone marrow does not get enough stimulus to make the cells. There is a drug called Epogen that can help a lot with this.
6. Anemia of unknown cause-- some cats are hard to diagnose when they have anemia.
Regardless, of the cause, there is a drug called Immuno-Regulin that has been reported, anecdotally, to help cats with FeLV who get anemic. There are a few articles about it on this group's website. It is cheap and easy to get, but a vet or vet tech must administer it because it is an IV injection. It stimulates the T cells in the immune system (as opposed to the B cells, which are the ones that can get out of control and kill red blood cells.) Transfusions also can help short term or long term. One list member had each transfusion help for a month at a time for a while. My Simon had three transfusions before his chemo and steroids kicked in, at which point he did well for about 2 months. He had lymphoma.
Michelle
In a message dated 8/29/05 1:45:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello, The vet said he is very anemic, no energy, does not want to eat at alltoday.Do you know of anything that can be done for anemia, the vet saysnothing can be done? Thanking you for your help...Lisa

Re: your kitty Cloud





Lisa,
There are different reasons for anemia.  You need to know what is
causing it to treat it.   It could be a bacterial infection, (we
suspect Grace suffers from this, Hemobartinella), that could be
controlled with antibiotics.  If it's some sort of auto-immune response
it would be treated with steroids.  There is something called
Immuno-regulin that many folks on the list say has helped their kitties
battle infection.  It could be kidney related, it could be lymphoma,
etc. etc.  I would get Cloud into an Internist as soon as possible. 
Since she's already under the care of a vet, I'd call that vet and get
her to prescribe a "broad spectrum" antibiotic, Grace takes
Doxycycline, (it has saved her life more than once).  You need to make
sure that Cloud eats in the meantime.  When cats don't feel well, they
stop eating.  You may need to assist feed her to keep her going until
you find out what it is you are dealing with and can help her with
medication.  Here is a link to a support group for anemia, and one for
assisted feeding:
Nina

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/


Lisa Ward wrote:

  Hello,
 The vet said he is very anemic, no energy, does not want to eat at all
today.Do you know of anything that can be done for anemia, the vet says
nothing can be done? Thanking you for your help...Lisa 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: your kitty Cloud

Hi Lisa,  Love that name Cloud  too - just wondering, does Cloud have 
Lymphoma, Anemia, or what?  I had two die of lymphoma.  One, I think, 
Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, before I 
could get a handle on it and get him to the vet.

Gloria





At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote:
  
  
I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy



  Belinda,

Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP
early Saturday
morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she
waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
somewhat sickly,
she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.
Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they
could not find
anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work
showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood
count, elevated
liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative
for both
feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she
never ate
much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came
from a
house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and
some kitten
deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her
to a
better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one
filled with
love and much caring..
Thank you,

Joan

Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

  Is he getting supplemented with pet tinnic or has your vet suggested 
a transfusion, the liver shake is also good for this.  I hope to God 
your vet did tests to see if the anemia is regenerative or 
non-regenerative, if not get a new vet ASAP and have tests done for 
hemobartenella, infact I would get Cloud on doxocylcline just to be safe 
it won't hurt him and couls well save his life if it is hemo.


And most important if Cloud is not eating YOU MUST syringe feed, any 
sick cat that doesn't get enough food will not have the strength to 
fight off anything and WILL have firther complications from not getting 
enough nutrition which will eventually kill it no matter how much 
medication you are giving it.  Nothing but food will cure Fatty Liver 
Disease, something inappetent cats get all too frequently while the vets 
hem and haw about other things going on and the owners have no idea how 
dangerous not eating can be for cats!!


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RE: your kitty Cloud

Hello,
 Cloud is 4 years old, she has not been acting herself, on Friday, that
just passed, I noticed that she was not eating and having a hard time
getting around, very weakI took her to the vet they did a blood test,
and said she had feline leukemia. They said that her white blood cells were
taking over her red blood cells, which was making her so weak and tired, and
she really need to be put to sleep. She does not appear to be in any pain,
except for being so tired and weak.Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Nina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: your kitty Cloud

Lisa,
I can't say for sure, but I suspect you need a different vet.  You 
haven't told us much about Cloud, except that she's lethargic and that 
she's dieing of Felv.  They don't die of "feline leukemia" they die 
because they are susceptible to other ailments and can't fight them off 
as well as kittys with healthy immune systems.  If you and your vet can 
figure out what is making her tired then it should be fought in the same 
way you would for any other kitty.  The first time my kitty, Grace, had 
symptoms similar to what you describe she was 5 mos old.  I thought I 
might have to put her to sleep because her quality of life was so poor.  
My regular vet at the time didn't know what else to do for her and 
suggested I take her to a specialist, (an Internist).  With this new 
vet's help, the support of this group, and a lot of work researching 
this horrible disease, I've been able to keep Grace with me and even 
though she has bouts of illness, (quick say a prayer), she always 
bounces back.  Don't give up hope.  Tell us Cloud's history and what's 
going on with her right now.
Maybe we can help.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Lisa,  Love that name Cloud  too - just wondering, does Cloud have 
> Lymphoma, Anemia, or what?  I had two die of lymphoma.  One, I think, 
> Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, 
> before I could get a handle on it and get him to the vet.
>
> Gloria
>
>
>
>
>
> At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote:
>
>> I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) 
>> dying of
>> feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing 
>> that can
>> be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy
>>
>> Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
>> had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
>> uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
>> but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
>> over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!
>>
>> Jen
>>
>> 
>> "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
>> unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
>> become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
>> Saint-Exupéry
>>
>> "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
>> each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
>> you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
>> George
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
>> Subject: CLS - Twiggy
>>
>> > Belinda,
>> >
>> > Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
>> > Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP
>> > early Saturday
>> > morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
>> > clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she
>> > waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
>> > somewhat sickly,
>> > she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.
>> > Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they
>> > could not find
>> > anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work
>> > showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood
>> > count, elevated
>> > liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative
>> > for both
>> > feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she
>> > never ate
>> > much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came
>> > from a
>> > house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and
>> > some kitten
>> > deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her
>> > to a
>> > better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one
>> > filled with
>> > love and much caring..
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Joan
>> >
>
>
>
>
>

RE: CLS - Twiggy

I believe she only had the FeLV test, they said when the cat gums turn
white, they are very anemic. If they are indeed anemic, does that means it
white blood cells are take over the red blood cells? Is there anything that
you know of that can be given to her to help her, if indeed this is here
problem...Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Belinda Sauro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

   Lisa,
 Has Cloud had bloodwork done and is she anemic?   I hate it when vets 
say nothing can be done, so many blanket any positive cat that gets sick 
with "hte FeLV is kicking in and nothing can be done" 

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RE: CLS - Twiggy

Thank youLisa

-Original Message-
From: Doljan, Joan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:48 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: FW: CLS - Twiggy

-Original Message-
From: Raymaker, Norrice (LEGAL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Doljan, Joan
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

Thank you, Joan.  Thank you, Jen.  I too hope Twiggy is now happy and
healthy and being a wild girl kitten in Kitty Heaven.  Lisa, I will pray for
you and Cloud.

Norrice

-Original Message-
From: Doljan, Joan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:41 PM
To: Raymaker, Norrice (LEGAL)
Subject: FW: CLS - Twiggy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Ward
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to
go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited,
now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure
she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the
short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
> 
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight 
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early 
> Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 
> 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, 
> so she waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came 
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
> 
> Joan
>

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RE: your kitty Cloud

Hello,
 The vet said he is very anemic, no energy, does not want to eat at all
today.Do you know of anything that can be done for anemia, the vet says
nothing can be done? Thanking you for your help...Lisa 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: your kitty Cloud

Hi Lisa,  Love that name Cloud  too - just wondering, does Cloud have 
Lymphoma, Anemia, or what?  I had two die of lymphoma.  One, I think, 
Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, before I 
could get a handle on it and get him to the vet.

Gloria





At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote:
>I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
>feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
>be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy
>
>Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
>had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
>uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
>but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
>over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!
>
>Jen
>
>
>"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
>unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
>become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
>Saint-Exupéry
>
>"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
>each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
>you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
>George
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
>Subject: CLS - Twiggy
>
> > Belinda,
> >
> > Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
> > Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP
> > early Saturday
> > morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
> > clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she
> > waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
> > somewhat sickly,
> > she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.
> > Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they
> > could not find
> > anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work
> > showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood
> > count, elevated
> > liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative
> > for both
> > feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she
> > never ate
> > much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came
> > from a
> > house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and
> > some kitten
> > deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her
> > to a
> > better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one
> > filled with
> > love and much caring..
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Joan
> >

Re: your kitty Cloud

Lisa,
I can't say for sure, but I suspect you need a different vet.  You 
haven't told us much about Cloud, except that she's lethargic and that 
she's dieing of Felv.  They don't die of "feline leukemia" they die 
because they are susceptible to other ailments and can't fight them off 
as well as kittys with healthy immune systems.  If you and your vet can 
figure out what is making her tired then it should be fought in the same 
way you would for any other kitty.  The first time my kitty, Grace, had 
symptoms similar to what you describe she was 5 mos old.  I thought I 
might have to put her to sleep because her quality of life was so poor.  
My regular vet at the time didn't know what else to do for her and 
suggested I take her to a specialist, (an Internist).  With this new 
vet's help, the support of this group, and a lot of work researching 
this horrible disease, I've been able to keep Grace with me and even 
though she has bouts of illness, (quick say a prayer), she always 
bounces back.  Don't give up hope.  Tell us Cloud's history and what's 
going on with her right now.

Maybe we can help.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Lisa,  Love that name Cloud  too - just wondering, does Cloud have 
Lymphoma, Anemia, or what?  I had two die of lymphoma.  One, I think, 
Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, 
before I could get a handle on it and get him to the vet.

Gloria

At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote:

I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) 
dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing 
that can

be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
>
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP
> early Saturday
> morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she
> waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
>
> Joan
>

RE: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

Hello,
  Yes, they said Cloud is anemic, he is very tired and weak..Lisa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

I am so sorry to hear about Cloud!  Has the vet given you a definitive 
diagnosis?  Cats don't generally die of the Feleuk virus itself, but 
rather because of diseases that take advantage of the cat's weakened 
immune system...is Cloud anemic?



"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: Lisa Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:21 am
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

> I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) 
> dying of
> feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing 
> that can
> be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy
> 
> Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
> had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
> uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for 
> awhile,but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people 
> who watched
> over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!
> 
> Jen
> 
> 
> "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you 
> will be
> unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the 
> world; You
> become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
> Saint-Exupéry
> 
> "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
> each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, 
> and what
> you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
> Chief Dan
> George
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
> Subject: CLS - Twiggy
> 
> > Belinda,
> > 
> > Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the 
> Candlelight 
> > Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
> > early Saturday
> > morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 
> hours> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her 
> recovery, so she 
> > waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
> > somewhat sickly,
> > she has good times but often had a fever which would come and 
> go.  
> > Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> > could not find
> > anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood 
> work 
> > showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> > count, elevated
> > liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested 
> negative 
> > for both
> > feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> > never ate
> > much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" 
> came 
> > from a
> > house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> > some kitten
> > deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get 
> her 
> > to a
> > better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> > filled with
> > love and much caring..
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Joan
> > 
> 
> 
>

your kitty Cloud

2005-08-29 Thread gblane

Hi Lisa,  Love that name Cloud  too - just wondering, does Cloud have 
Lymphoma, Anemia, or what?  I had two die of lymphoma.  One, I think, 
Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, before I 
could get a handle on it and get him to the vet.

Gloria

At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote:

I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
>
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP
> early Saturday
> morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she
> waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
>
> Joan
>

Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

I will definitely do that!  It gives me hope that maybe he can stabilize and make it to 20!  thanks.Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Susan,Have his pottasium checked, kitties that are in early stages of kidney failure can get backend weakness because of not enough pottasium. The fact that Big Rik is only just now having dehyrdation issues has to be in his favor, he must have one very healthy immune system!!-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com

Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

Thanks!  He really has had an awesome life - and I only adopted him when he was 15.  He'd had one owner from the time he was a kitten - adopted from Ft. Worth, TX shelter.  Walked into my house, looked around and just decided he was home.  No adjustment problems!Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What a fabulous life span!  Sending GLOW to keep him happy, well grumpy:) and to keep your time together good.Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list.  He has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly healthy.  He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and unsteady.  He's a really fine old fella, felv negative.  thanksBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous
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Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

2005-08-29 Thread Barb Moermond

What a fabulous life span!  Sending GLOW to keep him happy, well grumpy:) and to keep your time together good.Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list.  He has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly healthy.  He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and unsteady.  He's a really fine old fella, felv negative.  thanksBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

FW: CLS - Twiggy

-Original Message-
From: Raymaker, Norrice (LEGAL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Doljan, Joan
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

Thank you, Joan.  Thank you, Jen.  I too hope Twiggy is now happy and
healthy and being a wild girl kitten in Kitty Heaven.  Lisa, I will pray for
you and Cloud.

Norrice

-Original Message-
From: Doljan, Joan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:41 PM
To: Raymaker, Norrice (LEGAL)
Subject: FW: CLS - Twiggy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Ward
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to
go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited,
now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure
she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the
short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
> 
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight 
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early 
> Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 
> 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, 
> so she waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came 
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
> 
> Joan
>

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Re: CLS - Twiggy


  Lisa,
Has Cloud had bloodwork done and is she anemic?   I hate it when vets 
say nothing can be done, so many blanket any positive cat that gets sick 
with "hte FeLV is kicking in and nothing can be done" 


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RE: Belinda

Thank you as always.

Joan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Belinda


   Hi Joan,
  Just read it a few minutes ago, had about 650 emails to get through 
this morning, I will add little Twiggy to today's service, please give 
Norrice my sincerest codolences.

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RE: CLS - Twiggy

Thank you.  I have passed your email on to Norrice.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Ward
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to
go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited,
now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure
she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the
short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
> 
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
> early Saturday
> morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
> waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came 
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
> 
> Joan
>

Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list


   Hi Susan,
  Have his pottasium checked, kitties that are in early stages of 
kidney failure can get backend weakness because of not enough 
pottasium.  The fact that Big Rik is only just now having dehyrdation 
issues has to be in his favor, he must have one very healthy immune system!!


--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

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Re: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

I am so sorry to hear about Cloud!  Has the vet given you a definitive 
diagnosis?  Cats don't generally die of the Feleuk virus itself, but 
rather because of diseases that take advantage of the cat's weakened 
immune system...is Cloud anemic?



"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: Lisa Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:21 am
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

> I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) 
> dying of
> feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing 
> that can
> be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy
> 
> Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
> had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
> uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for 
> awhile,but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people 
> who watched
> over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!
> 
> Jen
> 
> 
> "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you 
> will be
> unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the 
> world; You
> become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
> Saint-Exupéry
> 
> "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
> each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, 
> and what
> you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
> Chief Dan
> George
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
> Subject: CLS - Twiggy
> 
> > Belinda,
> > 
> > Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the 
> Candlelight 
> > Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
> > early Saturday
> > morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 
> hours> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her 
> recovery, so she 
> > waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
> > somewhat sickly,
> > she has good times but often had a fever which would come and 
> go.  
> > Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> > could not find
> > anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood 
> work 
> > showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> > count, elevated
> > liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested 
> negative 
> > for both
> > feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> > never ate
> > much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" 
> came 
> > from a
> > house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> > some kitten
> > deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get 
> her 
> > to a
> > better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> > filled with
> > love and much caring..
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Joan
> > 
> 
> 
>

Re: Belinda


  Hi Joan,
 Just read it a few minutes ago, had about 650 emails to get through 
this morning, I will add little Twiggy to today's service, please give 
Norrice my sincerest codolences.


--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
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RE: CLS - Twiggy

I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
> 
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight 
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
> early Saturday
> morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
> waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came 
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
> 
> Joan
>

Re: Ewok has a tumor... :(

That's good to hear!  I know Ewok's prognosis, statistically, isn't
good...so it always helps to hear about success stories with other FeLV+
cats!  There's no harm in hoping that Ewok will be around for awhile,
right?  I don't want to jinx anything!!  :)

Jen


"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:58 am
Subject: Re: Ewok has a tumor... :(

>  There is a specific cat named Sambe, Mom is Stacy, she is 
> extremely busy and doesn't post often, but her Samba is FeLV 
> positive 
> and is going strong last I heard about a month or so ago.  They are 
> in 
> Kansas.  I believe he has lymphoma, he was diagnosed right after my 
> Buddie and I lost Buddie a year ago after her year long fight with 
> cancer, so Sambe has been in remission for about 2 years.
> 
> -- 
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> 
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> 
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> 
>

RE: CLS - Twiggy

Thank you.  I have passed your email to her.

Joan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to
go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited,
now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure
she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the
short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
> 
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
> early Saturday
> morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
> waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came 
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
> 
> Joan
>

Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

> Belinda,
> 
> Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight 
> Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
> early Saturday
> morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
> clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
> waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
> somewhat sickly,
> she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
> Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
> could not find
> anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
> showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
> count, elevated
> liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
> for both
> feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
> never ate
> much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy".  "Twiggy" came 
> from a
> house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
> some kitten
> deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
> to a
> better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
> filled with
> love and much caring..
> Thank you,
> 
> Joan
>

Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

Thanks!  I'll pass that hug on to Big Rik this evening![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Big hugs to you and Big Rik (love his name)! You guys are in my thoughts!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge- Original Message -From: Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:29 amSubject: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list> Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list. > He has
 been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but > incredibly healthy. He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to > need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are > getting week and unsteady. He's a really fine old fella, felv > negative. thanks>

Re: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

Big hugs to you and Big Rik (love his name)!  You guys are in my thoughts!

Jen


"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:29 am
Subject: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

> Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list.  
> He has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but 
> incredibly healthy.  He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to 
> need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are 
> getting week and unsteady.  He's a really fine old fella, felv 
> negative.  thanks
>

RE: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

Thanks, Joan.  I am not ready to lose him!"Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Susan,
 
Healing vibes from all my guys to Big Rik.
Joan


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:29 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list
Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list.  He has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly healthy.  He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and unsteady.  He's a really fine old fella, felv negative.  thanks

Belinda

Title: Message



Did you get my email 
about Twiggy passing?
 
Thanks,
 
Joan

RE: Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

Title: Message



Susan,
 
Healing vibes from all my guys to Big Rik.
Joan

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
  LoeschSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:29 AMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Please add Big Rik to the 
  special needs list
  Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list.  He 
  has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly 
  healthy.  He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids 
  and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and 
  unsteady.  He's a really fine old fella, felv negative.  
thanks

Please add Big Rik to the special needs list

Please add my 19 1/2 year old Big Rik to the special needs list.  He has been your typical grumpy old man for the last few years, but incredibly healthy.  He has just begun to stay dehydrated enough to need subQ fluids and I noticed yesterday that his hind quarters are getting week and unsteady.  He's a really fine old fella, felv negative.  thanks

Re: Ewok has a tumor--Michelle

Thanks, Tonya!  Yeah, I think there may have been something up with the
list over the weekend...hopefully the problem has been resolved!  :)

Ewok, so far, is doing pretty well...he's breathing much easier so I
take that as good news that the tumor is shrinking...I'm trying not to
get my hopes up too much as the lymphomas I've dealt with in the past
have been soo aggressive... :(  If he does go into remission, I fear
that it won't be for very long...anyhoo, I'm trying not to think about
that...he's feeling pretty good right now and that's all that
matters...I had no idea that I could spoil him any more that I already
had!  :)

Jen

"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Ewok has a tumor--Michelle

> Jen,
> 
> I must have missed this.  I'm hoping Ewok responds well to 
> treatment.  Is he positive?
> 
> tonya
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If you are able to keep that perspective, it will be a huge 
> blessing. I try to do that myself. But I am often not so great at it.
> Michelle
> 
> In a message dated 8/26/05 7:05:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Not at all, Michelle!  In fact, I'm trying not to think about all 
> of the
> possible outcomes, right now...just taking it one day at a time!  By
> some fluke, Ewok may not even respond to the chemo at all...To even 
> have3 years with him and his brother has been a blessing...at this 
> point, to
> just have a few more weeks with him is all I ask...if it's more, then
> I'll be all the more grateful!  I'm not ready to say good-bye, but I
> don't think I ever will be...every minute is precious, now!
> 
> Thanks for everything!
> 
> Jen
> 
>

Re: Please add Butternut to the CLS

Thanks, Michelle.  I agree, tho, quick is better for him.  He was such a wonderful fella - but then, what orange tabby isn't![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am really sorry. The speed of his deterioration is shocking. But it is better for him that it was quick, I know. I really am so sorry. As you probably know, I lost my orange tabby boy Simon this past February and it was and is very hard.  I still dream about him often at night.
Michelle

Re: Please add Butternut to the CLS

Thanks, Tonya.  It always helps that people remember him and acknowledge his precious, altho way too short, life.catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Susan,
 
I'm so sorry for your loss.  I know there's nothing I can say to make it better for you to deal with, but I'm sorry.
 
tonyaSusan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks so much, Terri.  I know he is more comfortable now.Terri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 





So many losses -- hugs to you.
 
Goodnight, sweet Butternut...
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
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- Original Message - 
From: Susan Loesch 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:28 PM
Subject: Please add Butternut to the CLS

Yesterday I lost Butternut to this evil disease.  He was 3 1/2 years old - so I know he has lived longer than most babies born positive - but is wasn't long enough.  It never is, is it.  I am in Arkansas and over 3 years ago there was a situation in the northern part of the state - out in the sticks somewhere - where lots of cats were left at a trailer park of some sort.  It was in the news that a vet had been hired to euthanize them all.2 members of our rescue group headed up there to see what could be done -- all they managed to save was one little orange tabby boy, Butternut, who tested positive for feleuk.  Since I already had feleuk babies, including Gloria's Mittens and my Leader and their littermates, who were the same age as Butternut, I took him.  He has been wonderfully healthy and happy and very much loved for the whole of his short life. 
 
Over the last couple of days he went downhill fast and yesterday lost the use of his hind legs.  We chose to free him before he began to really suffer.  I know he is playing at the Rainbow Bridge with Mittens and the rest of our feleuk babies.  Thanks.

Re: Ewok has a tumor... :(

 There is a specific cat named Sambe, Mom is Stacy, she is 
extremely busy and doesn't post often, but her Samba is FeLV positive 
and is going strong last I heard about a month or so ago.  They are in 
Kansas.  I believe he has lymphoma, he was diagnosed right after my 
Buddie and I lost Buddie a year ago after her year long fight with 
cancer, so Sambe has been in remission for about 2 years.


--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

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CLS - Twiggy