Chandra~
When we have outbreaks of severe URI's at the shelter, we do use
humidifiers/vaporizers in our Felv rooms. And it does seem to help.
With one of my boys, who was prone to URI's, I would put him in my half
bath with the steam vaporizer on. It really worked wonders for him, and having
i have never heard of any reason NOT to use a hudifier for a FeLV
cat, nor for one with cancer--i'd think, speaking as a
nonprofessional!, that having unobstructed airways could only be a
benefit in any condition!
what WAS suggested to me by a persian expert was to get a nebulizer
rather than a
chandra and buddha's post reminded me to do my periodic nudge: if you
have or know of a vet whose first advice when meeting a FeLV (or FIV!)
kitty is NOT to euthanize, please list them at
www.adopt.bemikitties.com so that others can avoid at least one avenue
of heartbreak.
MC
--
tonya, for me the answer is to focus on my small part of the world,
and remember that being a good example (well, at least about the
critters!) is a big thing, tho decidedly slow
some people can handle dealing with the huge issues, many can't. for
me, if i try to handle a huge number of
Tonya, thank you for doing what you did for Jaws. He may not have lived but he had a chance. And he died much more peacerfully than if he'd been hit again by another car. You are a hero. And knowing people like you and being reminded of what is really important helps overshadow all the bad we see
excellent point, nina, as usual!
also, gloria, i would talk to the vet, too--it might be good to find
out exactly what DID happen: it's possible the new mom didn't really
give you the xomplete story. just as possible it's a bad vet..
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Maybe Chrissy
MaryChristine:
Beautifully expressed. Thank you
/mari
this group gives us a place to all do whatever it is they we can do,while having a wide group of folks doing the same thing--and when we
reach out and hold hands (and/or paws), we enlarge the circle, andsupport one another in ways that
Immuno-regulin helped two of my cats with URI-- one of them had pneumonia.
It is an immune booster, you can get it through Revival online, and there are
articles about it on the felineleukemia.org web page.
Chemo is often very helpful to cats with lymphoma, though they say that
doing
Tonya, I am so sorry you were exposed yet again to the idiocy and selfishness of the 2 footers. And I'm so proud of you and so grateful that you stopped for that kitty and took him to a vet. He was given a chance and was able to pass peacefully in a relatively quiet place.The balancing act is
and, for what it's worth, i co-host the pet-loss support chats on
Friday, Sunday and Monday nights
MC
http://chat.pethobbyist.com/schedule.php?site=cat
The chat room is Haven - Pet Loss Support.
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that's the MN sanctuary linky...
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I haven't tried a vaporizer yet. I did try taking him
into the bathroom and letting it fill up with steam,
but it didn't seem to help much.
The vet gave me Euphorbium, which I have never heard
of, but it seems to be a homeopathic nasal spray for
humans. I was told to give him one squirt up
Are you sure that it is a cold and not lymphoma in his nasal passage? That
is one of the places that they get lymphoma. One of my cats who died of lymphoma
(I think, it was never definitively diagnosed) had a stuffy nose the whole time
he was sick and nothing helped and I feel pretty sure at
It could be. My husband actually suggested that it
might be caused by the cancer and not an infection,
but I don't think our vet ever said for sure. Maybe
that is why she said that it would either respond to
the meds or not.
I was a little out of it when we took him in
yesterday. Between me
I am, unfortunately, very familiar with the feeling of only sleeping an
hour or so due to checking constantly on a cat with cancer. I am sorry. It is
horrible.
Yes, I would think it would respond to the steroids too, but the steroids
kept Buddy going for about 3 months and generally
Janet,
I have to agree with everything that Nina said.
Having the cat spayed would probably be the humane
thing to do. My cat Cricket was born with Feline
Leukemia; his mother had it. I would like to urge you
to consider keeping this cat if you are at all
attached to it, and caring for it
Tonya,I feel exactly the same way. Ever since seeing Larry King my depression has been overwhelming. Maybe I have been wearing blinders but I knew absolutely nothing about this situation and I wish I still knew nothing about it. I know that makes me a coward but I can't help it. I can't even watch
with persians, stuffy noses are very often a problem--sometimes it's
nothing more than their anatomy--if there was a tumor by his eyes, i'd
almost expect sinus/nasal impingement that even with the tumor
shrinking might persist. i'd go with the vaporizer, and nasal drops
if, as michelle said, it
Hi Janet,
That simple act of rescue can certainly become
complicated.
I joined this list months ago after trapping a litter
of feral positive kittens. I was looking for sound
advice, which I got, and I should really sign off the
list now since I can't keep up with the volume of
emails but I
Nina,
I feel exactly the same as you do. Why pay good money
for entertainment only to leave a depressing movie
with a sad ending, when we can watch the evening news
for free? I don't watch the news either.
Once, I thought I was going to go postal when PETA
paid for an advertisement on TV
Hi Chandra,
Thank you for sharing your story about Buddha. What a
wonderful story. I hope that Buddha pulls through and
will keep him in my prayers. I also live in the
Dallas area-Rockwall. I looked up that clinic and
have added the information to my favorites in case I
need to take one of my
Chandra,
I have a bottle of ImmunoRegulin that I ordered online
in November. Cricket only had two doses of it before
he passed and you are welcome to it if you want it.
Let me know.
:)
Wendy
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Immuno-regulin helped two of my cats with URI-- one
of them had
I am sorry that the kitty has feLK --- I haven't read all the postings
what other people said.. but it's going to be very hard to find a home
for the kitty for the same reason that you think you cannot keep her.
I really hope that you will find a way to be able to -- there is a
reason why you
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and if
they're employed the sameway with cats as they are with humans, i'd think
that'd be morestressful to a highly compromised
cat
I must agree. Nebulizers can be VERY
stressful on
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MaryChristine:
Beautifully expressed. Thank you
/mari
I must agree..
MC Nina have a beautiful way of
expressing themselves.
They always put things in the proper
perspective for
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and, for
what it's worth, i co-host the pet-loss support chats onFriday, Sunday and
Monday nightsMC
MC~
That is very good to
know.
Bless you for doing that. I just posted
that you have a
Wendy,
Wow, that is so generous of you. You are so sweet.
You know, I was just telling my husband last night
that if Buddha has any meds left over when he passes,
I would like to see if it is possible to donate them
to someone else who is going through the same thing we
are but who might not be
we certainly hope that we help--we ARE there every night of the year, including holidays
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and, for what it's worth, i co-host the pet-loss
i always ask them if they're ready to go, and try really hard to
listen to THEM, and not my own need to keep trying to help. i tell
them to tell me when it's time; i pay great attention to whether they
accept or fight treatment (fluids, force-feeding) i let them be by
themselves if that's
Hello Chandra,
As I was reading your post about Buddha's behavior, (responding to your
husband better), I was thinking that he may be preparing himself for the
transition, then when you said how uncharacteristic it is of him, and
how his personality seems to have changed... My Grace did the
Chandra,
What you and Buddha are going through is very common,
unfortunately, with cancer. All my babies who had cancer got that way when
they did not feel well. Sometimes they even hid. They went up and down,
though. Simon got so he did not want to be touched at all, would not touch
nina, i know what you mean about them disconnecting--i've often felt
that their spirits were gone before their bodies quite let go; i've
also seen them go into what looks like a meditative state, as if they
were making all their own preparations, regardless of their humans or
other companions.
Hey Chandra,
I am sorry that Buddha isn't doing well this
afternoon. That really stinks. Yes, the
ImmunoRegulin has to be injected into a vein. I was
totally opposed to that at first, because Cricket was
what they call fractious, which means he could really
act crazy at the vet. lol. But
I so hope it's true that their spirits leave before
their bodies give out. The thought of that makes me
feel better about Cricket's passing.
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nina, i know what you mean about them
disconnecting--i've often felt
that their spirits were gone before
Sheila and all,
Keep on writing those letters - to the newspapers too.
Bonnie
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
-- Margaret Mead, anthropologist
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It sounds like Buddha is a real fighter. I had success using a holistic vet to get one of my positives through upper respiratory problems as a young cat. I lost her at about 8 years old.The humidifier will help. Just don't put any kind of eucalyptus smelling stuff in it or anything like that.
Could someone please forward the forced feeding group information to Peggy? thanks, tpegdun14206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "pegdun14206" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:19:38 -Subject: [animalcommunication] Re: zuzu-TonyaHi TonyaThank you so much for
I know several drug users, one is my mate, he smokes marijuana, and he is one
of the
most compassionate, peace loving people I have ever met. The kids that brought
Bones
(the broken back kitty) to me were also known as part of the druggie crowd,
yet
they carefully scooped this poor crippled cat
After fasting for a day and then getting only i/d dry all day, Lucy had
solid bowel movements this evening-- totally solid, at least on the outside. The
only problem is that 1) the volume was still more than normal, although solid,
and 2) for the first time there was blood. The blood was in
Jenn,
I am not talking about pot. I am talking about the
drugs that make a person feel as if they need to kill
to keep their high going, like heroine, crack, etc.
These people can be out of their minds while on these
strong mind-altering chemicals. And I am not
slandering drug users. I am,
Thank you! My research made me think it indicates colitis, as that is the
only thing listed that talks about red blood on the edges, and says it results
from a problem in the colon. But the fact that you have seen the same
thing (yes, that's what it looks like) with Gypsy with the first
I have been thinking about him all afternoon and evening. I have been
through what you are going through, and it is hell. I am hoping he is
feeling better, though realize he may not be. I hope that you will try the
steroid shots before giving up completely, as they may make him feel a lot
Hi Michelle!
Unfortunately, not much improvement...he stays a the vet's office
during the day for fluids and supportive therapy...his appetite is
still close to nil and now he is combating severe diarrhea! The vet
is trying everything she can think of and Ewok is being such a little
I think that is a more accurate way to refer to
it, Michelle. I remember oncemy hubby was on them for a bad case of
poison ivy, and he was like the Tazmanian devil, he was a whirlwind of
energy! On the flip side, he had terrible insomnia while on
it.I also knew someone who took it foran
Jen, I am really sorry he is having so many symptoms. Is there any
talk of giving the chemo a rest until he feels better? It is ok to give
beneficial bateria while giving antibiotics, and it is in fact recommended. You
just need to make sure you give it a few hours before or after the
Fresh blood is from the very lowest end of the tract - large intestine, rectum area and is much less worrisome than black stools. Fresh blood with a solid stool could be simple irritation after so long with soft stools. If you've had her stool tested, you could have ruled out clostridium
I think it is really different in cats. They actually have a way, way
higher tolerance for steroids than humans or dogs do. The amount of
steroids I gave my cats with lymphoma would not be possible, proportionally, to
give a human or a dog. Cats just have a phenomenally high tolerance for
Agreed,I have heard it IS different in
cats. And for cats, I'm very glad. I would hate to wake up in the
middle of the night to find my kitty glaring down at me from the nightstand with
a tiny knife. (boo, hiss~I'll be here all week!)
Eh-hem, anyways, I did not realize that dogs
also get
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