Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
If your other cats are vaccinated for FELV, why not let him in with them? Annie is now 8 and doing fine. Her only problem is she was an "only cat" in her previous home and does not like to share with other cats. (Nitnoy died after 1-1/2 years but she had been feral and lost her tail to a raccoon which really left her stressed out) But Annie only meows at them and swats them so no problem there. She and the others all think they have to sit on my lap every time I sit down and even though I have an ample lap, it is not big enough for 6 cats. That creates a problem. Betheny Laubenthal wrote: > Hi. My name is Beth. I run a feral cat rescue. That's how I ended up > with Mozart, a 10 month old kitten. April 18, I took him to a spay clinic > to get neutered, his rabies vaccination and for a Felv/FIV test. He tested > positive for Felv. It was recommended that he immediately be euthanized. > I refused. > I contacted my vet. She agreed with my decision to allow him to live out > his life. She retested him May 17. Again, he tested positive. This > surprised me because he is a healthy cat. No symptoms at all. None of his > brothers tested positive. His mom took off with his two sisters when he > was 5 weeks old. Mom was feral. Have not found her or the missing kittens. > My vet is awesome (which is great because my rescue takes in cats with > medical issues and behavioral issues as well as ferals that cannot stay > where they are). That's a lot for me to say since I have a general > distrust of vets for various reasons. Anyways, she is looking for another > felv cat for me to introduce to Mozart as a playmate. Mozart is locked in > my bedroom. Other cats in my home were tested. They were negative. We > are vaccinating with a 4 way vaccine with leukemia. I am in the process of > ordering more vaccination-with and without leukemia. > I have him on a raw diet. Been raw feeding for over 3 years-not the least > bit concerned about bacteria. I feel as if it is safe and beneficial to > feed Mozart this diet. > I am looking into this treatment for him: > http://tcyte.com/cat-owner-information/ > > Anyone have any luck with it? Anyone hear of it? Does anyone have any > advice they can give to me? Also, what about vaccines? I am concerned > about the increase chance of vaccine related sarcomas. > Thank you! > --Beth Laubenthal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
I have a question re vaccinations> I have 2 15 year olds, one never goes out, she is terrified of outside and the other goes down on the ground to potty and then back to the deck for a snooze in the sun. Another 8 year old goes out very little and another tht stays on the deck. Do they need vaccinations? FELV they need as I have 1 positive cat, but do they need the others as their chances of contracting anything from strays, etc are very slim> Margo wrote: > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
It depends on your State. Many States require the rabies vax every 3 years. Some feel older cats do not need the FVRCP vax - that previous vaccines should still be in effect. The FVRCP is recommended by the cat vaccine guidelines every 3 yrs. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction I have a question re vaccinations> I have 2 15 year olds, one never goes out, she is terrified of outside and the other goes down on the ground to potty and then back to the deck for a snooze in the sun. Another 8 year old goes out very little and another tht stays on the deck. Do they need vaccinations? FELV they need as I have 1 positive cat, but do they need the others as their chances of contracting anything from strays, etc are very slim> Margo wrote: > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
I only maintained FVRCP vaccines when I fosterd kittens & non- FeLV cats for the rescue I work with. They typically came from animal control facilites, so there was much more risk. Unless your cats are exposed to other cats, I really don't see a reason for the FVRCP vaccine. And I definitely would never vaccinate an FeLV+ cat for FVRCP. I did that once & the cat got sick the next day & died soon after. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Sharyl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction It depends on your State. Many States require the rabies vax every 3 years. Some feel older cats do not need the FVRCP vax - that previous vaccines should still be in effect. The FVRCP is recommended by the cat vaccine guidelines every 3 yrs. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction I have a question re vaccinations> I have 2 15 year olds, one never goes out, she is terrified of outside and the other goes down on the ground to potty and then back to the deck for a snooze in the sun. Another 8 year old goes out very little and another tht stays on the deck. Do they need vaccinations? FELV they need as I have 1 positive cat, but do they need the others as their chances of contracting anything from strays, etc are very slim> Margo wrote: > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
I agree. Once your other cats are fully vaccinated, there is no reason to separate. I have mixed my healthy (even FIV+) cats with my FeLV cats for years with no problems. You might want to search the archives on "mixing" for more info on this, but many of us mix our positives & negative, fully vaccinate cats. By fully vaccinated I mean initial vaccine, booster, & wait at least 2 weeks before mixing. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction If your other cats are vaccinated for FELV, why not let him in with them? Annie is now 8 and doing fine. Her only problem is she was an "only cat" in her previous home and does not like to share with other cats. (Nitnoy died after 1-1/2 years but she had been feral and lost her tail to a raccoon which really left her stressed out) But Annie only meows at them and swats them so no problem there. She and the others all think they have to sit on my lap every time I sit down and even though I have an ample lap, it is not big enough for 6 cats. That creates a problem. Betheny Laubenthal wrote: > Hi. My name is Beth. I run a feral cat rescue. That's how I ended up > with Mozart, a 10 month old kitten. April 18, I took him to a spay clinic > to get neutered, his rabies vaccination and for a Felv/FIV test. He tested > positive for Felv. It was recommended that he immediately be euthanized. > I refused. > I contacted my vet. She agreed with my decision to allow him to live out > his life. She retested him May 17. Again, he tested positive. This > surprised me because he is a healthy cat. No symptoms at all. None of his > brothers tested positive. His mom took off with his two sisters when he > was 5 weeks old. Mom was feral. Have not found her or the missing kittens. > My vet is awesome (which is great because my rescue takes in cats with > medical issues and behavioral issues as well as ferals that cannot stay > where they are). That's a lot for me to say since I have a general > distrust of vets for various reasons. Anyways, she is looking for another > felv cat for me to introduce to Mozart as a playmate. Mozart is locked in > my bedroom. Other cats in my home were tested. They were negative. We > are vaccinating with a 4 way vaccine with leukemia. I am in the process of > ordering more vaccination-with and without leukemia. > I have him on a raw diet. Been raw feeding for over 3 years-not the least > bit concerned about bacteria. I feel as if it is safe and beneficial to > feed Mozart this diet. > I am looking into this treatment for him: > http://tcyte.com/cat-owner-information/ > > Anyone have any luck with it? Anyone hear of it? Does anyone have any > advice they can give to me? Also, what about vaccines? I am concerned > about the increase chance of vaccine related sarcomas. > Thank you! > --Beth Laubenthal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Vaccines
. Good morning,>> Do the ones who go outside have possible contact with other cats? If they were vaccinated against panleukopenia after 20 weeks of age, and had at least one booster after a year, I would probably forego future vaccines, except for the one manated by law in most places (rabies). You could even ask your Vet for a rabies waiver for the older cats. Some will, some won't, and in some places it's not legal, but it's worth asking :) I would avoid vaccinating the + cat.>>HTH,>>Margo p.s. Sorry, somehow I missed the part about little contact with strays, so I'd be comfortable with discontinuing vaccines for the oldest cats if they had a series previously. The risk for your others would be mostly for the URIs (RC+C of the FVRCCP), which aren't usually fatal, and I think require cat-cat contact to transmit. Depending on when they were last vaccinated, I would probably do one more with panleuk, as that can remain active in the soil for years. The panluek vaccine is very effective (and I believe for life), but I haven't seen any actual documentation of more than 7 years trials.>>HTH>>>^..^< >>-Original Message->>From: dlg...@windstream.net>>Sent: May 22, 2013 5:17 AM>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>Cc: Margo >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IntroductionI have a question re vaccinations> I have 2 15 year olds, one never goes out, she is terrified of outside and the other goes down on the ground to potty and then back to the deck for a snooze in the sun. Another 8 year old goes out very little and another tht stays on the deck. Do they need vaccinations? FELV they need as I have 1 positive cat, but do they need the others as their chances of contracting anything from strays, etc are very slim>. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
I have a question about vaccines against FeLeuk itself. I have read that they are not entirely effective, at least not in their current form. Any thoughts? I mean the ones you give your non-positive cats when mixing with those who actually have it. Thanks-Chris C. From: Margo Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines . Good morning, > > Do the ones who go outside have possible contact with other cats? If they were vaccinated against panleukopenia after 20 weeks of age, and had at least one booster after a year, I would probably forego future vaccines, except for the one manated by law in most places (rabies). You could even ask your Vet for a rabies waiver for the older cats. Some will, some won't, and in some places it's not legal, but it's worth asking :) I would avoid vaccinating the + cat. > >HTH, > >Margo p.s. Sorry, somehow I missed the part about little contact with strays, so I'd be comfortable with discontinuing vaccines for the oldest cats if they had a series previously. The risk for your others would be mostly for the URIs (RC+C of the FVRCCP), which aren't usually fatal, and I think require cat-cat contact to transmit. Depending on when they were last vaccinated, I would probably do one more with panleuk, as that can remain active in the soil for years. The panluek vaccine is very effective (and I believe for life), but I haven't seen any actual documentation of more than 7 years trials. > >HTH > >>^..^< > >-Original Message- >>From: dlg...@windstream.net >>Sent: May 22, 2013 5:17 AM >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>Cc: Margo >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction >> >>I have a question re vaccinations> I have 2 15 year olds, one never goes out, she is terrified of outside and the other goes down on the ground to potty and then back to the deck for a snooze in the sun. Another 8 year old goes out very little and another tht stays on the deck. Do they need vaccinations? FELV they need as I have 1 positive cat, but do they need the others as their chances of contracting anything from strays, etc are very slim> . ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
No vaccine is 100% I've been mixing mine for over 10 years & have had no negative, vaccinated cats catch the virus. Even my 2 vaccinated FIV cats never caught it. And I have had the negatives retested several times. I've had as many as 5 positives & 5 negatives at one time. No transmission. I'd say the vaccine is pretty effective. Of coarse I think cats get more immune to it as they age. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: "cer...@new.rr.com" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines I have a question about vaccines against FeLeuk itself. I have read that they are not entirely effective, at least not in their current form. Any thoughts? I mean the ones you give your non-positive cats when mixing with those who actually have it. Thanks-Chris C. From: Margo Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines . ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant)
This is a repost, maybe it will help? >From: Margo >Sent: Apr 24, 2013 2:51 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Cc: "toomanykitti...@earthlink.net" >Subject: FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant) > > > >Sharyl wrote; >"The protocol I was given is >1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days >Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives >Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot >? >I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine" >Sharyl > >Hi Sharyl, > > There are two types of FeLV vaccines available. The most commonly > used is an adjuvanted, killed vaccine. They include; > >Fel-O-Vax LV-K > By Boehringer Ingelheim (formerly Fort Dodge). This killed virus leukemia > vaccine is given subcutaneously or intramuscularly. For cats 10 weeks of age > and older. > >Leukocell 2 > by Pfizer Animal Health. Killed feline leukemia virus. Given subcutaneously. > For cats 9 weeks of age or older. Boxes of 50 doses (2 doses needed for > initial immunity). > >Nobivac® FeLV > For the vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in the prevention of disease > associated with feline leukemia virus infection. Formerly known as Fevaxyn® > FeLv > >I'm sure there are others, as well. > >Then there is a non-adjuvanted recombinant (modifed live) > injectable FeLV vaccine which is very new, made by Merial. This is much less > likely to cause FISS/VAS than the adjuvanted vaccines. The cat I am most > concerned in vaccinating has already lost one leg, so I need to choose this > vaccine, as he cannot lose another. The trouble has been finding it. >Here's an explanation; >https://www.navta.net/press/new-molecular-technology-provides-improved-potency > >HTH, > >Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines
The only ones who might have contact would be the2 year olds, but a cat would have to wander in from town and that is 2 miles away. They are more likely to have contact with mice, moles, rabbits, groundhog, snakes, maybe a skunk, but have not seen or smelled one of those for several years now. Thanks for confirming my thoughts on vaccinations. Had not thought of a waiver for the older girls. Margo wrote: > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
