RE: Question about different FeLV tests
No, she was dead serious. :)catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe she's just new or trying to be funny??? I certainly would NOT worry about the rabies vaccination. tGina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hideyo and All,I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was.I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house."Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office? GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level. I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to someone elsecall Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test there I highly recommend From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?Thanks!Gina Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: OT-Crosspost-TX FIV+ Kitties in Need of Homes
On 9/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, This is another case of someone dumping their pets. I will never understand how these people live with themselves. These kitties are gorgeous! The shelter contact info is below. Yvonne Crosspost from Special Needs Rescue cats 8/29/06:A woman dumped all of her 12 cats off at the Humane Society of Williamson County yesterday. One of the cats is a gorgeous adult male, Russian Blue kitty. Unfortunately he is FIV positive. Many FIV positive kitties live a long healthy life, the only difference is, they need to be indoor only kitties and not with other kitties, unless they are FIV positive as well. She also dropped off a Tabby Momma with her two 3-week old Siamese/Tabby kittens (see description link to photo in second post below). If we can't find homes for them soon, they will be euthanized. Please open your heart to this sweet boy and possibly one of his kitty friends. Pictures are available. Please save this sweet boy! PetFinder listing and picture:_ http://search.http://seahttp://searchttp://searhttp://seahttp://_ ( http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6904204) Humane Society of Williamson County (512) 260-3602 _kwald @ hswc.net_ (mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Crosspost from Special Needs Rescue Cats 8/29/06A woman dumped me and my two 3-week old kittens, along with 9 of our other kitty friends at the Humane Society of Williamson County. Of course, she never bothered to fix or vaccinate any of us. Now I have FIV and two little kittens to care for who might also be FIV positive. We will probably live a full long life and just need to be kept indoors and away from other cats unless they too are FIV positive. FIV is not transmittable to any other animal or person. Please consider adopting one or more of us! We promise to love you always! Adoption fee has been reduced to $50.00 and includes spay/neuter and vaccinations. Their time is very short at the shelter, so please don't wait to call. PetFinder listing and picture:_ http://search.http://seahttp://searchttp://searhttp://seahttp://_ ( http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6904219) The Humane Society of Williamson County (512) 260-3602 _kwald @ hswc.net_ (mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I have crossposted these kitties to the Austin Siamese Rescue Yahoo Group. I can't take them, unfortunately, but maybe someone can.-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life! http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
Re: Lost Twinkletoes
On 9/1/06, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's quite a story.That's one thing about this list, whenever I'mfeeling overwhelmed, I can be assured that there's someone out there with even more on their plate.All of us who take in rescues know thattheir chances of being healthy and strong are compromised.Thank youfor doing what you do, not everyone has the strength to keep on facing so many trials and heartaches.I'm so sorry to hear about Twinkletoes,but I have higher hopes for her little sister since she has no symptomsexcept her smaller size.I don't think I'd put her through the stress of tests and spend the money when she's not really sick, just weakened.I'd put her and her remaining siblings on the same sort of supplementregime that we do for felv kitties.Do your best to boost her immune system and get as much quality food into her as possible.I have a goodfeeling about her, (what's her name?). Hi Nina, I named her Rorsarch after the test since she is black and white, but I call her Rory because she is not big enough for that other name. Sometimes I call her Rory Bory. She was a whirlwind of energy this morning, tearing up and down the stairs, but she is SO tiny. She cannot be more than 2 pounds, and she is 5 months old. How's her Momma doing now? Her mom is ok. She's on Flagyl at this time, which controls her symptoms. She had 8 teeth out for the stomatitis. She is not gaining any weight that I can see though. She's about 6.2 pounds. I'ma bit confused, is the one with the scarred cornea still with you? Yes, he is still here. His name is Obsidian and he's a big time lover boy. He is pretty close to normal size, though not as fat as I would like. Doyou have the kitty with spine problems on Glu/Chond and MSM?My GSD,Zevon, has degenerative spine disease and flax seed oil, (not as good for kitties, you might want to try salmon oil for the omegas), Glu/Chondand MSM, that with, believe it or not, exercise, is keeping him mobileand enjoying life. She was just diagnosed last Tuesday and I haven't had time to research her condition. She is on Val Syrup/Torbutol for pain. My vet recommended 1. Pain meds 2. Steroids 3. CT scan to confirm - he only did 2 X ray views 4. Surgery if necessary. Right now she is mobile and only has problems when you manipulate her tail, so I don't mess with her tail -however, the other cats do, so I am keeping her away from all of them but Missy (they are sisters and very bonded). Is Missy on CoQ10?I've heard good things aboutusing it for heart problems. Not yet, but I have plans to start her on it, along with L-Lysine and a few other things as well. The internist didn't think it would do any good so I consulted with my regular vet. I'm goign to start her at the cardiologist as I am not pleased with that internist at all. My goodness girl, you sure do have your hands full.I'm sending youstrength, energy and prayers to help you do Spirit's work.Bless you and everyone in your household,Nina Thanks Nina!:)-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
Re: OT Food and IBD - Kelly
On 9/2/06, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it was about time to change the subject line.I hear youabout the cost of canned food and quality dry.There's no way I could do it at my house for everyone either.I feed quality dry inside andthe best inexpensive cat food I can afford to the ferals outside, (I usethe Costco brand).Gypsy is the only one getting the turkey mush at my house, except for the occasional treat to some of the others that reallylike it.I use every part of the turkey I can, (it helps assuage myguilt a little bit).We even boil the carcass for broth to add to the dog's food.I'm lucky that Gypsy really likes her mush and as long asit's available to her, she leaves the dry alone. Ciara likes all foods. I am sure she didn't get enough food before I got her. There is no telling her history. She's a 5 year old mom and who knows how many litters she has had. -- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life! http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
Re: OT Food and IBD - Kelly
On 9/2/06, kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:52 PM 9/2/2006, you wrote:my problem with litter is dumping it. We are limited to weight and the non clumping litters sure fills things up...luckily mine have the choice of litter or dirt and grass so I only go through aboyt 60 lbs a week ,,,I go through about 80 lbs of just dry food food a week also,,if not more.. Kelly I can't even imagine going through that much dry food. I can barely afford the 80 pounds a month I feed. Fortunately I live in a townhouse complex and we have dumpsters, so I am not limited as to weight. I took out 5 bags of used litter this morning. -- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
Re: OT: Need feedback please - Wendy
Hi Belinda, I like this version too. I don't have a problem with your old version, but I've had to learn over the years to treat the average idiot with kid gloves. (not real kid leather. no leather. lol)I have a couple of offerings for you to consider on this letter in red. First I would put the 3rd and 4th paragraphs before the 2nd.Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the revised version, thank you for your help!!Belinda here, I admin the ads, and there are no "Free To Good Home" ads allowed, none is the same as FREE. This is very dangerous for the cat asthere are all kinds of lunatics out there that many people are not aware of. You must be very cautious and very carefully check out anyone who expresses an interest in your cat.Some people obtain free cats to train pit bulls to fight, and they are killed in a very violent and gruesome manner by these vicious animals. Then there are people who feed them to snakes as meals (some large exotic snakes require live food). There are crazy people who obtain free animals solely to abuse them. Others, referred to as "bunchers", buy them to make money by selling them to labs, where they are ultimately destroyed after enduring some horrific treatment. These bunchers get anywhere from $30 to $100 dollars a pet from these labs.Giving an animal away FREE is very dangerous for that animal and I personally would rather euthanise a pet than take a chance that they could end up in a horrible situation.I get emails every single day about some poor pet that has endured horrible things until they finally died or were killed. I have even been told by some of my rescues how a whole family will come to look at an adoptee making them appear quite normal, only to find out later the pet was tortured again and again until it finally died or was killed. Please, please be very, very careful who you hand this cat over to, he is depending on you to make sure he is safe when he goes to his new home!! Thank you.I'm not saying this to be mean, believe me I know these kinds of things happen a hundred times a day to innocent animals. I've changed your ad to read negotiable. Please contact me for more information about screening a prospective adoptor for your cat if you wish.These links provide more informationabout just how dangerous free ads can be for your cat:http://www.theanimalspirit.com/adopt.htmlhttp://www.petrescue.com/library/free-pet.htmhttp://www.parrett.net/animalaid/free.htmlI belong to a group of people who are all owned by FeLV+, most if not all have other cats who are negative. Some let their cats mix some don't, it's a personal preference thing.I personally had 6 cats, my Bailey was my positive, he was + at 5 months of age. I just lost him last month to anemia at 11 years of age, he wasn't sick for all of those years. I just lost him in May after a 5 month illness to what turned out to be cancer. He lived, ate, slept, played with, groomed and on occasion had spats with all his vaccinated, negative housemates for all those years and nobody ever got it from him. It is almost impossible for a healthy, adult cat to get it from a positive and if they ever did the healthy adult cats immune system would fight it off.The bottom line isfelv isn't as contagious as most vets would have you believe. I would encourage you to join our group and find out about the many members who mix positive and negative cats who live for years with no problems and no transmission of disease. You can do that here:http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orgPlease feel free to contact me anytime.-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Pics of my boys
On 9/1/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very precious boys! And, my favorite picture is of Maizee fishing in the bathtub. What a beautiful girl she was.Gina That was my favorite too...what a cutie.-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20
Need prayers for my Spencer please
Hi Everyone, Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet. I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence. Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there, Nina
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Oh Nina, I am so sorry. You will both be in my prayers.-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life! http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamesehttp://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Nina, I am so sorry. But were you referring to my Simon? If so, he did not have kidney failure. He had lymphoma in his liver and his spleen and bone marrow. When he was dying the first time, or I thought he was, it was due to his anemia from the lymphoma in his bone marrow. He had to stop chemo because his liver values were too bad. But several shots of depomedrol and dexamethasone brought his blood values almost to normal so he could continue chemo, and he lived another month, most of it good, before he died of a hemolytic reaction to his cancer or to the chemo (his blood count went from normal to under 10 in 2 days). Michelle In a message dated 9/4/2006 12:43:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Everyone,Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet.I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence.Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there,Nina
RE: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Nina, I am so sorry I can't believe how quickly he is feeling bad.. what you said reminds me of Peter- I really would like to see the blood work they did on him - could he have dry FIP? It just seems to be so weird and again reminds me of what happened to Peter and Naomi..all their blood was pretty normal with them being slightly anemic..Nina, I am praying so hard for Spenc. If I were you, I may not bring him, Peter cried on the very last day and I knew he was very much in pain and never cried before,, I regretted that I stressed him out more...I will call you later, Nina..love and big hugs to spencer from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Need prayers for my Spencer please Hi Everyone, Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet. I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence. Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there, Nina
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
At 09:44 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: I am so sorry that Spencer is so ill. it is so heartbreaking and frustrating...all of good thoughts are going to the both of you, Is your ER vet willing to do the things you ask of him?? Often times Oxygen helps, but at this point in his sweet little life you have such a painful decision to make, One we all dread but we all face as we care for and love these little guys, We are all there with you. Kelly Hi Everyone, Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet. I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence. Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there, Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
I'm sorry, Nina. You and Spencer are in my thoughts and prayers. KarenNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet.I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence.Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there,Nina Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
RE: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Nina, I'm so sorry Spencer is so ill. Here's all my hopes and vibes that he'll rally. Diane R.
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
No sweetie, I was talking about my feral boy, Simon. The Siamese that I ended up helping cross with a touch of Valium. Do you remember him? I would do almost anything if I thought it would make Spence all better, or even if I thought it would make him feel better temporarily. I know you've said that your combo shots have done that. I know that Simon had some wonderful days with you, but I don't know if I am willing to put Spence through what it might take to extend his life, if that extension would only be for weeks or even months. And then there's the money factor... I just don't know... N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, I am so sorry. But were you referring to my Simon? If so, he did not have kidney failure. He had lymphoma in his liver and his spleen and bone marrow. When he was dying the first time, or I thought he was, it was due to his anemia from the lymphoma in his bone marrow. He had to stop chemo because his liver values were too bad. But several shots of depomedrol and dexamethasone brought his blood values almost to normal so he could continue chemo, and he lived another month, most of it good, before he died of a hemolytic reaction to his cancer or to the chemo (his blood count went from normal to under 10 in 2 days). Michelle
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
I thought about oxygen helping him to breathe and be more comfortable. But the trade off of being at the vet would probably not be worth it. I wish I had the homemade set up here, or even a tank with a mask to see if it helped. Thank you for your good thoughts. Nina kelly wrote: At 09:44 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: I am so sorry that Spencer is so ill. it is so heartbreaking and frustrating...all of good thoughts are going to the both of you, Is your ER vet willing to do the things you ask of him?? Often times Oxygen helps, but at this point in his sweet little life you have such a painful decision to make, One we all dread but we all face as we care for and love these little guys, /We are all there with you. Kelly / Hi Everyone, Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet. I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence. Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there, Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
You both are in my prayers.GinaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet.I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence.Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there,NinaPlease visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
I understand. I only wrote that because I thought you were talking about my Simon. When I thought he was dying the first time he was having some of the same symptoms, but not all. michelle In a message dated 9/4/2006 1:23:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No sweetie, I was talking about my feral boy, Simon. The Siamese that I ended up helping cross with a touch of Valium. Do you remember him? I would do almost anything if I thought it would make Spence "all better", or even if I thought it would make him feel better temporarily. I know you've said that your combo shots have done that. I know that Simon had some wonderful days with you, but I don't know if I am willing to put Spence through what it might take to extend his life, if that extension would only be for weeks or even months. And then there's the money factor... I just don't know...N
RE: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Dear Nina We all do the best we can for our little souls, in whatever circumstances we find ourselves. For what it's worth I decided after I lost Flavia that I would never put another positive through a transfusion. It gave her 10 days, that was it. It put her through tremendous stress. And it cost money that I didn't have at that time. But I guess I had to do it to learn from it. I know that whatever decision you make for your beloved Spencer, it will be the right one, Nina. big hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please No sweetie, I was talking about my feral boy, Simon. The Siamese that I ended up helping cross with a touch of Valium. Do you remember him? I would do almost anything if I thought it would make Spence all better, or even if I thought it would make him feel better temporarily. I know you've said that your combo shots have done that. I know that Simon had some wonderful days with you, but I don't know if I am willing to put Spence through what it might take to extend his life, if that extension would only be for weeks or even months. And then there's the money factor... I just don't know... N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, I am so sorry. But were you referring to my Simon? If so, he did not have kidney failure. He had lymphoma in his liver and his spleen and bone marrow. When he was dying the first time, or I thought he was, it was due to his anemia from the lymphoma in his bone marrow. He had to stop chemo because his liver values were too bad. But several shots of depomedrol and dexamethasone brought his blood values almost to normal so he could continue chemo, and he lived another month, most of it good, before he died of a hemolytic reaction to his cancer or to the chemo (his blood count went from normal to under 10 in 2 days). Michelle IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
To Gina re. Buddy
Gina, Your post about Buddy brought that big lump into my throat. The one you get right before you start crying. I remember all to well that 'look' that tells you that they are ready. My Cricket gave me that same look the day I got home from work, when he died. I knew he was telling me he was ready, but I persisted in trying to save him and instead of taking him to be pts, like I had decided earlier, and I had the vet insert a feeding tube. He died anyway that night, too sick for the feeding tube to have a chance to work. I will NEVER FORGET that look that he gave me. It's burned into my mind, and I don't think I'll ever mistake it again. Thanks for sharing and helping my grieving process a little bit more. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Hi Nina,I understand where you are coming from. When we got the news that the cancer had metastasized in Buddy, we decided to bring him home from the vet so we could spend some time together. I wasn't ready to say goodbye. The vet said he did not seem to be in pain yet. I gave him IV fluids and kept him comfortable until the point when it seemed time. For me, that time was when he stopped eating altogether and was sleeping most of the time. The look in his eyes really clinched it. I would not have chosen to force feed him or keep him going through chemo for varied reasons, the main one that he was terminal. There really was no hope. It wasn't a tumor which could be removed and treated with chemo. Even then, I'm not sure that I would have wanted him to go through chemo. I've never faced that decision. I too, would have to consider the cost of treatments, versus our income. That is the reality of it, unfortunately.At any rate, I am so sorry about Spence. I hope for a miracle, if not, then that his passing is peaceful.GinaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No sweetie, I was talking about my feral boy, Simon. The Siamese that I ended up helping cross with a touch of Valium. Do you remember him? I would do almost anything if I thought it would make Spence "all better", or even if I thought it would make him feel better temporarily. I know you've said that your combo shots have done that. I know that Simon had some wonderful days with you, but I don't know if I am willing to put Spence through what it might take to extend his life, if that extension would only be for weeks or even months. And then there's the money factor... I just don't know...N[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, I am so sorry. But were you referring to my Simon? If so, he did not have kidney failure. He had lymphoma in his liver and his spleen and bone marrow. When he was dying the first time, or I thought he was, it was due to his anemia from the lymphoma in his bone marrow. He had to stop chemo because his liver values were too bad. But several shots of depomedrol and dexamethasone brought his blood values almost to normal so he could continue chemo, and he lived another month, most of it good, before he died of a hemolytic reaction to his cancer or to the chemo (his blood count went from normal to under 10 in 2 days). MichellePlease visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Hey Nina, Prayers going out for Spencer right now. You're his angel. :) Wendy --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet. I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence. Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there, Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT: To Nina re. Bruce/ staph infections
Hey Nina, How is Bruce's hand? I hope he is better. I wanted to give you some scary info. I know you are already stressed right now with Spencer, but I am feeling the need to fill you and everyone else in on something my mom is going through right now. I'd rather tell you than wait in case it applies to Bruce. My mom got a bad staph infection in her hand after puncturing it with a cactus spine (right word?) which is where the bacteria entered. The bacteria probably did not come from the cactus, but we don't know for sure. It got REALLY bad, and ate away a huge chunk of skin between her thumb and index finger before they were able to stop it with a change in antibiotics. Several layers are gone; about a half inch worth. Her doc said that this staph is everywhere in the environment; I think it's called msma staph, but I could be wrong. It's a very resistant strain and responds to a specific abx. I also know a woman who died from it two years ago in Houston. I worked with her. She had two young children. I am not trying to scare you; just wanted to tell you that what we all think could be harmless can actually be really scary! And also, so that in case you guys were waiting to see the doc, to go ahead and go. My mom had to visit a plastic surgeon, but he thinks the wound will fill in quite nicely now that she's healing. I hope Bruce is doing better. And I hope I haven't upset you with the info. Please keep me posted. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Nina,healing thoughts and prayers for Spencer. Hugs to you SherryNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet.I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence.Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there,Nina Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: OT: To Nina re. Bruce/ staph infections
Yes, staph can be dangerous. My father died from a staph infection he got at the hospital while they were trying to treat another illness. I'd take it very seriously.Ginawendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Nina,How is Bruce's hand? I hope he is better. I wantedto give you some scary info. I know you are alreadystressed right now with Spencer, but I am feeling theneed to fill you and everyone else in on something mymom is going through right now. I'd rather tell youthan wait in case it applies to Bruce. My mom got a bad staph infection in her hand afterpuncturing it with a cactus spine (right word?) whichis where the bacteria entered. The bacteria probablydid not come from the cactus, but we don't know forsure. It got REALLY bad, and ate away a huge chunk ofskin between her thumb and index finger before theywere able to stop it with a change in antibiotics. Several layers are gone; about a half inch worth. Herdoc said that this staph is everywhere in theenvironment; I think it's called msma staph, but Icould be wrong. It's a very resistant strain andresponds to a specific abx. I also know a woman whodied from it two years ago in Houston. I worked withher. She had two young children. I am not trying toscare you; just wanted to tell you that what we allthink could be harmless can actually be really scary! And also, so that in case you guys were waiting to seethe doc, to go ahead and go. My mom had to visit aplastic surgeon, but he thinks the wound will fill inquite nicely now that she's healing. I hope Bruce isdoing better. And I hope I haven't upset you with theinfo. Please keep me posted. :)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
Re: To Gina re. Buddy
Wendy,Yes, it's something you never forget. Healing vibes your way.Ginawendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gina,Your post about Buddy brought that big lump into mythroat. The one you get right before you startcrying. I remember all to well that 'look' that tellsyou that they are ready. My Cricket gave me that samelook the day I got home from work, when he died. Iknew he was telling me he was ready, but I persistedin trying to save him and instead of taking him to bepts, like I had decided earlier, and I had the vetinsert a feeding tube. He died anyway that night, toosick for the feeding tube to have a chance to work. Iwill NEVER FORGET that look that he gave me. It'sburned into my mind, and I don't think I'll evermistake it again. Thanks for sharing and helping mygrieving process a little bit more.:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: my baby crackers
Hi, My name is Wendy. I've been on this site for about 10 months now and have learned so much. My FeLV+ passed away, but it was so late when I found this group, there wasn't enough time to save him. I think that Crackers has a much better chance. I'm sorry to hear about Pokemon. I find, however, that things happen for a reason, and you did the right thing by loving Pokemon. You didn't know about the risks of taking her in, so please don't beat yourself up. So many of us here have exposed our kitties by unknowingly taking in an FeLV+ before we were educated on FeLV. I exposed three others by taking in Cricket, my FeLV+. They are all negative. Everyone has posted great info. so far for you. One thing I didn't see was how old Crackers was. That is important. If he is older, then it is harder for him to contract FeLV, as Chris said. Or rather, easier for him to throw it off if exposed. From our experiences here, adults almost never contract FeLV. It's the kittens that contract it permanently. So I wouldn't worry too much until you test and retest. The only thing that might be a problem is that Pokemon and Crackers were fighting and the veterinary community doesn't know enough about this virus to know if indirect exposure (sharing water bowls, grooming) versus direct exposure (introducing the virus directly to the bloodstream) plays a part in throwing off this virus. It could. In the meantime, I would change Cracker's diet, as Phaewryn pointed out. I feed mine Innova. You can't get the good stuff at a grocery or discount store, nor can you get it at Petsmart or Petco (although you can buy Eukanueba there, but it's not good food either, imo.) Also, vitamin C and L-lyine (without propyline glycol) are good immune supplements. The other big thing is to keep Crackers stress-free. I would also find another vet. One that does not feel euthanasia is the only option with FeLV+ kitties. One that is educated. You can figure this out by calling different vets in the area and speaking with them directly about their philosophy on treating FeLV+'s. You'll get a good feel for a vet this way. Your vet was wrong about the test not having any false positives. Try not to freak out too much. We all love our furbabies dearly here, and you have found a good place to be while dealing with this. It's a great source of support. If you'd like, I can email you a sick and regular care kitty manual that I compiled. I can't attach it to these postings, but I can send it to you directly if you'd like. It's got a lot of info. in it. Please keep us posted on your kitty's diagnosis, etc. :) Wendy Dallas, Tx P.S. I think $6000-8000 for treatment for Pokemon is RIDICULOUS Just ludicrous!!! And I don't necessarily agree with their diagnosis and what they said should be done. I wouldn't go there again if you can avoid it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: To Nina re. Bruce/ staph infections
Hi Wendy, Thanks for asking about Bruce's hand. It's doing better now, but it was very scary for a while there. I do hope everyone knows about the dangers and how quickly things can become serious with cat bite infections. I wouldn't have thought about a puncture wound from the spine of a cactus doing the same thing, but that makes sense. It's the same kind of injection of bacteria deep into the flesh as a cat bite. I'm glad to hear your Mom's recovering. After Bruce was bit we doused it with peroxide, put antibacterial ointment on it and then bandaged it. After the fact, I found out that you shouldn't use ointments, or cover a cat bite because you don't want the outside healing over the inside. I read that soaking it in hot salt water immediately can help, when I asked the urgent care doctor about that, he said it wouldn't hurt, but the only thing that will save you from infection with a serious bite is an abx shot. When I was severely bitten in the past, I went immediately to the ER and got a Tetanus shot and abx shot, it never got infected. Bruce went to work the next day after he was bitten and by the time he got home and I unwrapped his hand, I knew he was in trouble. It was swollen, red and hot! I took one look at it and knew he needed medical assistance, (it took me 2 hours to convince him; such a male). He's had 5 abx shots over the last week. I have it written down, it's Rocefin (sp?). The nurse told us that this abx use is fairly new, if he had come into the office with his hand looking like that before, they would have sent him to the hospital for IV abx. The doctor said that if he hadn't come in that night the infection would have spread to his elbow by morning. They also put him on oral Augmentin, (mega dose of 4000mg a day). His hand is still swollen, but is getting much better finally. It was touch and go there. The doctor kept shaking his head and talking about the hospital. It's been an ordeal, (he had to take a time off from work, the doctor insisted, (Bruce was saying no to that), it's cost a small fortune, but it could have been much, much worse. From now on, if anyone gets bit around here, we're going for the shot immediately. Nina wendy wrote: Hey Nina, How is Bruce's hand? I hope he is better. I wanted to give you some scary info. I know you are already stressed right now with Spencer, but I am feeling the need to fill you and everyone else in on something my mom is going through right now. I'd rather tell you than wait in case it applies to Bruce. My mom got a bad staph infection in her hand after puncturing it with a cactus spine (right word?) which is where the bacteria entered.
Felv pos to neg
I would just like to know statistically if anyone out there has had the initial test pos and then after 6-10 weeks become neg,,,either ELisa of IFA...and stay neg?? Has anyone out there used Immuno regulin on a newly dignosed FELV before they were symptomatic and the results on succeeding tests, Already using Vit C and lysine Kelly
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 9
Does anyone out there use glutathione for the FeLv babies? I bought it a while back at a big cat show in Westchester NY. The name of the product is Kitty Lix and I gave it to my cats until we moved and the bottle got displaced in the move. What I can say is that it helped with herpes outbreaks. The company is in Connecticut and I asked if it would help FeLv cats. The company president said it is an immune booster. Following is his response to my question about using glutathione for an FeLv or FIV+ cat. "Yes, I believe that the Kitty Lix (major ingredient is GLUTATHIONE, reduced) will put your infected (?) kitten into a stage that will prevent the shedding of virus particles since it will prevent the spread of the virus from infected cells to uninfected healthy cells. They don't shed virus if they are not actively making new virus particles. By giving it to the uninfected kitten as well, you activate his/her immune system so that any exposure to virus will prevent active infection. I have seen this same behavior in humans with HIV, Hepatitis A, B, and C and several other deadly viruses. I can explain why this happens more completely if you would like. However, suffice it to say, that glutathione, and therefore Kitty Lix, makes avery good viral spread preventative treatment. To maintain the infected kitten's health you will have to give Kitty Lix to him/her throughout its life. Since there is no sure way of garaunteeing all the virus is wiped out of its body. There may remain inactive vestiges of the virus within the kitten as it grows into a cat and finally gets old. The main problem with older animals is that, like humans, as they grow older they make less and less glutathione on their own. That is why older animals succumb to various diseases of aging like viral infections, bacterial infections, cancer, and even heart disease. These all require an active immune system to keep them healthy. Heart disease happens when the heart muscle no longer is able to obtain the glutathione it needs for full muscle contraction and the heart muscle gets flabby." I have no interest (other than the health of my cats) in Kitty Lix but would like to pass on this information. Dr. Seligman can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED]or google Kitty Lix. Roena Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 9
At 11:59 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: I am getting more information on the use of SAm E for that reason, The ER vet who is well published told me he truly believes that Sam- E will protect the fragil RBC's in cats, We all use it for liver problems but I will be putting my FIV and FELV cat on it, I will see if he is willing to write a letter with this information and allow me to post it, I was going to stop by there tomorrow and ask him Will keep you informed, Kelly Does anyone out there use glutathione for the FeLv babies? I bought it a while back at a big cat show in Westchester NY. The name of the product is Kitty Lix and I gave it to my cats until we moved and the bottle got displaced in the move. What I can say is that it helped with herpes outbreaks. The company is in Connecticut and I asked if it would help FeLv cats. The company president said it is an immune booster. Following is his response to my question about using glutathione for an FeLv or FIV+ cat. Yes, I believe that the Kitty Lix (major ingredient is GLUTATHIONE, reduced) will put your infected (?) kitten into a stage that will prevent the shedding of virus particles since it will prevent the spread of the virus from infected cells to uninfected healthy cells. They don't shed virus if they are not actively making new virus particles. By giving it to the uninfected kitten as well, you activate his/her immune system so that any exposure to virus will prevent active infection. I have seen this same behavior in humans with HIV, Hepatitis A, B, and C and several other deadly viruses. I can explain why this happens more completely if you would like. However, suffice it to say, that glutathione, and therefore Kitty Lix, makes a very good viral spread preventative treatment. To maintain the infected kitten's health you will have to give Kitty Lix to him/her throughout its life. Since there is no sure way of garaunteeing all the virus is wiped out of its body. There may remain inactive vestiges of the virus within the kitten as it grows into a cat and finally gets old. The main problem with older animals is that, like humans, as they grow older they make less and less glutathione on their own. That is why older animals succumb to various diseases of aging like viral infections, bacterial infections, cancer, and even heart disease. These all require an active immune system to keep them healthy. Heart disease happens when the heart muscle no longer is able to obtain the glutathione it needs for full muscle contraction and the heart muscle gets flabby. I have no interest (other than the health of my cats) in Kitty Lix but would like to pass on this information. Dr. Seligman can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or google Kitty Lix. Roena Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
Re: Felv pos to neg
I know there are people on this list who have seen a positive turn negative, using IFA for both tests, after 6 or 8 MONTHS. I think if youu see an ELISA positive turn negative after 6-10 weeks then you had a false positive to start with.kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would just like to know statistically if anyone out there has had the initial test pos and then after 6-10 weeks become neg,,,either ELisa of IFA...and stay neg??Has anyone out there used Immuno regulin on a newly dignosed FELV before they were symptomatic and the results on succeeding tests,Already using Vit C and lysineKelly
Re: Felv pos to neg
My Monty tested positive when he was 9 months old. He was very sick at the time and we thought we were going to lose him. He did recover and we tested him again just after he turned 1 years old. That test came back negative. It is possible to have a kitten test positive and then fight off the disease. We did both the Elisa and IFA test both times. Hope this helps, Chris Monty - Original Message - From: kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:00 PM Subject: Felv pos to neg I would just like to know statistically if anyone out there has had the initial test pos and then after 6-10 weeks become neg,,,either ELisa of IFA...and stay neg?? Has anyone out there used Immuno regulin on a newly dignosed FELV before they were symptomatic and the results on succeeding tests, Already using Vit C and lysine Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Nina, I'm really sorry to hear that Spencer isn't doing well. He will be in my prayers tonight. God bless you both. Lance
Re: Felv pos to neg
the guidelines i've seen re: retesting say that it takes a minimum of 90-120 days from exposure for most cats to throw off the virus. i wouldn't bother retesting before then, personally. if there's a positive result after 6-10 weeks, you'd really need to retest again anyway to make sure the cat had enough time to process it from its system. of course, then there's the theory that the virus may take 90-120 days to REGISTER on a test to start with--so a single negative test doesn't really mean anything, either, unless you know FOR SURE where the cat was for the 4 months before you brought it home... On 9/4/06, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know there are people on this list who have seen a positive turn negative, using IFA for both tests, after 6 or 8 MONTHS. I think if youu see an ELISA positive turn negative after 6-10 weeks then you had a false positive to start with. kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would just like to know statistically if anyone out there has had the initial test pos and then after 6-10 weeks become neg,,,either ELisa of IFA...and stay neg??Has anyone out there used Immuno regulin on a newly dignosed FELV before they were symptomatic and the results on succeeding tests,Already using Vit C and lysine Kelly-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Re: Pics of my boys
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Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Sending calming and peaceful vibes to Spencer, in hopes it will soothe his stress level. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
Thank you Phaewryn and everyone that has been sending prayers and good thoughts to me and Spence. He's doing about the same. I did get him to lick a bit of babyfood, that always makes me feel a little better. I've got a frantic call into my vet about Toxoplasmosis. I was doing some more research on it and while it's not that big a deal for kitties with good immune systems, cats with poor ones exhibit the same symptoms as Spencer is. Unfortunately, my vet was trying to save me some money (damn), and didn't run this test. I've found the treatment for it and I was hoping the on-call vet might think about the possibilities and prescribe me some meds, just in case. So far, no call back. I know I'm grasping at straws here, but I can't help thinking if we could figure out what's going on with him, it might be something curable. I hate when the clock is ticking. Has anyone had any experience with Toxo and immune compromised cats? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending calming and peaceful vibes to Spencer, in hopes it will soothe his stress level. Phaewryn
Re: Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
Nina, call a DIFFERENT vet clinic. Tell them your vet is not returning calls and that you are desperate, they might be able to help. OR, call yours relentlessly, like every 10 minutes, call back again. Drive the answering service nuts, they will put you on priority just so they don't have to continue to be bothered. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
Re: Smokey's Vet Visit Today LONG
Dee,I don't have any ideas. I hope you figure out what's going on with Smokey as soon as possible since he's so stressed at the vet. :( tonyaDee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone! Smokey went to the vet today to get bloodwork done to revisit my concerns over his breathing. I'm not so concerned about the rate of breathing, but the effort it sometimes takes him to inhale exhale. It's almost like a forceful expansion. About 9 days ago his Red Blood Count was 30, just at the edge of high for anemia. Today it was at 38, an +8 jump! And he gained another pound. He now weighs 8.4 pounds. Hoorah!!! However, we just don't know what to think of his breathing. The vet still thinks it may still be pneumonia his system is just too weak to shake it or she thinks it may be lung worm now. She said it is hard to find lung worm in testing. The options that the vet gave us ( none I'm too thrilled about) are to do another series of chest x-rays a trans trachial wash, both under sedation, to get a better feel for what is going on. Or Give him a diluted shot of ivermectin, usually for larger animals like horses cows for the lung worm. Or start him on another regiment of Clavamox Liquid 2 x day (or a pill antibiotic if we could get him to eat the pill pockets-but he won't even try them) in addition to the Doxy he is already taking. Or a combination of all these ideas. I am suppose to give her an answer tomorrow. We just don't know what to do. I HATE putting him on another medication and taking him in there again because it gets him sooo worked up. The poor dear panted pooped all over himself before we even go to the vet's office they had to give him a bath when we got there, _not_ good. They wanted him to come in every two weeks for bloodwork but we negotiated to once a month. I just wish someone could just come to our house draw the blood here. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to approach the treatment for his breathing? What is anyone's opinion on Clavamox taking it at the same time as Doxy? Would you put your furbabies through that additional testing or only if more problems arise? I know, a lot of questions. But I just want to do what is best for Smoke. Any input would be greatly appreciated, again. Thanks. ~Dee
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Nina, I will keep spencer in my prayers, I know the pain of losing your precious baby, especially to felv. Lori
Re: Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
I took your advice and called back to bug my vet's office some more. I did get a call back from the Internist on duty. He thinks the possibility of it being Toxo, even with an immune compromised kitty is like 5 out of 100. He rattled off all the things it could be to cause shallow breathing. The felv itself, heart problems, fluid on his lungs... He suggested I bring him in on an emergency basis and at least get an xray. He's not sure who will be there to read it though. I'm hesitating, but I still don't think I'm going to bring Spence in when I know a competent vet isn't there to read results. I'm climbing the walls here. Thanks everyone for helping me through this. I have a call into Jasmine, my AC. I'm hoping she can give me better insights. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, call a DIFFERENT vet clinic. Tell them your vet is not returning calls and that you are desperate, they might be able to help. OR, call yours relentlessly, like every 10 minutes, call back again. Drive the answering service nuts, they will put you on priority just so they don't have to continue to be bothered. Phaewryn
Re: Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
I have had 2 FeLV+ cats that have had fluid on the lungs and that makes breathing very difficult for them... One xray can show the space around the lungs that indicates the fluid filling the cavity and making it hard to breath in... A pill to absorb that fluid does relieve the breathing in only a couple hours... The fluid is most likely there because of a cancer somewhere though and the pill won't fix that... But it can give a few weeks of quality life... I am having a hard time to write this because I just lost my Little Leo a couple hours ago but it did help him and although he has been getting weaker and weaker for a while he did seem to be able to enjoy the things and places that he liked right up to the end Tad Nina wrote: I took your advice and called back to bug my vet's office some more. I did get a call back from the Internist on duty. He thinks the possibility of it being Toxo, even with an immune compromised kitty is like 5 out of 100. He rattled off all the things it could be to cause shallow breathing. The felv itself, heart problems, fluid on his lungs... He suggested I bring him in on an emergency basis and at least get an xray. He's not sure who will be there to read it though. I'm hesitating, but I still don't think I'm going to bring Spence in when I know a competent vet isn't there to read results. I'm climbing the walls here. Thanks everyone for helping me through this. I have a call into Jasmine, my AC. I'm hoping she can give me better insights. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, call a DIFFERENT vet clinic. Tell them your vet is not returning calls and that you are desperate, they might be able to help. OR, call yours relentlessly, like every 10 minutes, call back again. Drive the answering service nuts, they will put you on priority just so they don't have to continue to be bothered. Phaewryn
Re: Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
You might want to take him in just to be sure he doesn't have fluid in his chest. I say that because I have just gone through this with one of our FIV+ kitties. When I came home from work on Wednesday, my soul-kitty Wheezie was waiting for me having a very hard time breathing. I rushed him to the e-vet and they pulled 140cc's of fluid off his chest... that is what saved his life. We are now dealing with heart disease... but he pulled through because we took him to have the fluid removed. We are told the prognosis is poor... but our Wheezie has beaten the odds more than once... so we're hopeful. Just wanted to share in case it helps with your baby... On 9/4/06, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took your advice and called back to bug my vet's office some more.Idid get a call back from the Internist on duty.He thinks the possibility of it being Toxo, even with an immune compromised kitty islike 5 out of 100.He rattled off all the things it could be to causeshallow breathing.The felv itself, heart problems, fluid on his lungs...He suggested I bring him in on an emergency basis and at leastget an xray.He's not sure who will be there to read it though.I'mhesitating, but I still don't think I'm going to bring Spence in when I know a competent vet isn't there to read results.I'm climbing thewalls here.Thanks everyone for helping me through this.I have a callinto Jasmine, my AC.I'm hoping she can give me better insights.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, call a DIFFERENT vet clinic. Tell them your vet is not returning calls and that you are desperate, they might be able to help. OR, call yours relentlessly, like every 10 minutes, call back again. Drive the answering service nuts, they will put you on priority just so they don't have to continue to be bothered. Phaewryn -- Leslie =^..^=To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Need prayers for my Spencer please
Nina, I'm so sorry to hear that Spencer isn't doing well. I'm saying prayers for both of you because I know it is so hard when your baby is having a difficult time. I hope the vet calls you back soon. Please keep us posted. elizabeth In a message dated 9/4/2006 9:43:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Everyone,Spencer seemed to be doing better, but last night he took a turn for the worse and I wasn't sure he'd be here this morning when I woke up. He's lost a great deal of weight and his breathing is shallow and fast. He cries now when I pick him up and he's not getting around very well. His third eyelid is back up. I can't tell if he's in pain, but he's obviously in distress. It doesn't look good. He finished with his first 5 shots of feline interferon the night before last. I had taken him off Clav after 7 days, (now I'm wondering if that was a good idea), and he's going on, I think his 6th day of Dox). I'm afraid it may be a tumor, or some sort of cancer. He's reminding me of Simon when he was dying of kidney failure, but there was no indication of that when we had blood work done Friday before last. I called my vet's office, but of course it's a holiday and my vets aren't there. I could bring him in as an emergency, but I don't have a lot of faith in the vet on call, (nice guy, just not sure he'd be able to help). Actually, I don't have a lot of faith that anyone would be able to help him right now. He might be more comfortable with oxygen, or with a pain reliever. I don't know if it's worth the stress of bringing him into the vet.I just can't believe he's gone downhill so quickly. I've only had him for six months and he was in such bad shape when he got here. I did suspect fiv, but not felv. I figured if he had felv, he wouldn't have pulled through as well as he did after arriving. He just blossomed here! He turned into the best hugger and was so happy to have found someplace to call home and feel safe, and best of all he was thrilled to find a source of never ending food! I used to have to keep giving him a spoon of food at a time when I was getting everyone's dinner ready, or he'd go and eat everyone else's food as I put it down. I'm just in such shock. It wasn't more than 2 weeks ago that he was scaling counters at a single bound. He was such and incredible athlete, I've never seen anyone move as fast or leap as high as Spence.Thanks for letting me ramble. You guys know how this goes... Please send him healing, calming thoughts and prayers. I never stop hoping for recovery, but he doesn't look good. Thanks for always being there,Nina
Re: Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
When my friend Jessi lived with us, her 9 cats with good immune systems all had toxo and they all had diarrhea from it. I am not sure if they had any other symptoms, but they were negatives. Michelle In a message dated 9/4/2006 6:24:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you Phaewryn and everyone that has been sending prayers and good thoughts to me and Spence. He's doing about the same. I did get him to lick a bit of babyfood, that always makes me feel a little better. I've got a frantic call into my vet about Toxoplasmosis. I was doing some more research on it and while it's not that big a deal for kitties with good immune systems, cats with poor ones exhibit the same symptoms as Spencer is. Unfortunately, my vet was trying to save me some money (damn), and didn't run this test. I've found the treatment for it and I was hoping the on-call vet might think about the possibilities and prescribe me some meds, just in case. So far, no call back. I know I'm grasping at straws here, but I can't help thinking if we could figure out what's going on with him, it might be something curable. I hate when the clock is ticking. Has anyone had any experience with Toxo and immune compromised cats?Nina
Little Leo
Tad, I'm so sorry you lost your baby. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to him, and comfort hugs to you. Diane R.
wendy
thank you for the great info...please send me the sick kitty well kitty manual..my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] kayte
RE: felv pos to neg
i am new to this group...on Friday my cat elisa was positive very faintly...i will get the IFA to morrow and i am hoping my cat is negative he just turned 5 yrs old in may and has never been sick a day in his life so i am hoping that he can throw the virus or it be a false/ positive
Re: Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
When he said "the FELV itself" that told me volumes. Yeah, I wouldn't even bother with him. Is he hot? Feverish? Cold? Have you tried taking him into the bathroom and running the hot shower to see if the humidity might help? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
Re: Leo
Tad, I'm so sorry to hear you lost Little Leo. Was he FELV+? How are Munch and the rest doing? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 11
Message: 14Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:04:25 -0700From: kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 9To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"At 11:59 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote:I am getting more information on the use of SAm E for that reason, The ER vet who is well published told me he truly believes that Sam- E will protect the fragil RBC's in cats, We all use it for liver problems but I will be putting my FIV and FELV cat on it,I will see if he is willing to write a letter with this information and allow me to post it,I was going to stop by there tomorrow and ask himWill keep you informed,Kelly You might want to use milk thistle to protect the liver. I used it for my Iris who had diffuse intestinal lymphoma and I believe it protected her liver functions during her several courses of chemo. Milk thistle is given routinely to human liver patients. Roena Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!
Re: Leo
Hi Phaewryn Munch and Jett along with CJ, and 2 others that tested neg but that were so highly exposed that they would have been put down anyway, that have been here for 18 months or more are still perfectly healthy.. I have thought of having them retested and see if they can be in that group that was able to throw off the bug... But until a few weeks ago I would have included Leo in that well group.. He was here for 18 months.. Leo had lost a lot of weight when he got sick but I was supprised that he had weighed 1/2 pound less when I 1st got him... As I remember the 4 of the 6 AW cats that I lost in the 1st 6 months were also starving but Munch and Jett were at a good weight... Makes one wonder if its tied to what ever food they were forced to eat to survive on that starts a cancer growing... The new science is looking at genetically modifying the immune system so that it will attack the cancer cells... Maybe there is an answer there and maybe they will use FeLV+ cats for their lead tests which might be a good thing... Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tad, I'm so sorry to hear you lost Little Leo. Was he FELV+? How are Munch and the rest doing? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program: http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more! It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
Re: Bacardi
I've been feeding Bacardi Evolve . It's all natural and our practice promotes it all the time. I also started Pet Tinic as soon as the snap test started coming up positive. We've already gone through URI and conjuctivitis. As for tazzy, the first grew so rapidly that by the time we biopsied it it couldnt have been amputated. The day a had the surgery set for we found a spot on his lung and in his abdomen on an x-ray. Out Felu vaccines go as low as we can get them in the left leg, but Tazzy already had a vaccine when they got him from a pet store when i was 8 years old. I jusst hope everything turns out ok. Bacardi seems happy and loves to come to work with me in morning. He hops in my purse all the time at least i dont have to fight with him to go to the vet. i'm actually looking for a new vet other than the one i work at, since they seem not to care as much as they should with one of their employee's pets. Everything i know about this is my own research. than-you so much for your time. abby From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bacardi Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:55:58 -0400 First off, feed the very best food you can afford, diet is the main factor you can control in FELV. I prefer Innova or California natural, myself, but other premiums food are just as good, look in our archives for suggestions on diet and supplementation. Next keep him a stress free as you can, stress triggers the symptomatic form of the virus, they can go a long time with no symptoms if kept stress free and healthy. Here is the treatment page: http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.html I'm concerned that your cat died of VAS, as you being a vet tech should have caught it early enough for full amputation of the rear limb to remove the cancer. Please reassure me that your cats are NOT getting vaccinated in the neck scruff or between the shoulders. Vaccines should always be given as low as possible on the legs, in case a sarcoma results, the limb can be removed. If your vet is vaccinating incorrectly, I'd suggest finding a different vet, one that is up to date on the current vaccine protocol standards. http://www.avma.org/vafstf/sitercmnd.asp http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/vmth/clientinfo/info/genmed/vaccinproto.html http://www.tahealth.net/vas.html Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program: http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more! It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006
Re: Toxoplasmosis - Spencer
On 9/4/06, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to take him in just to be sure he doesn't have fluid in his chest. I say that because I have just gone through this with one of our FIV+ kitties. When I came home from work on Wednesday, my soul-kitty Wheezie was waiting for me having a very hard time breathing. I rushed him to the e-vet and they pulled 140cc's of fluid off his chest... that is what saved his life. We are now dealing with heart disease... but he pulled through because we took him to have the fluid removed. We are told the prognosis is poor... but our Wheezie has beaten the odds more than once... so we're hopeful. Just wanted to share in case it helps with your baby... My soul kitty Missy has heart problems too. I don't know if you are on the feline heart yahoo group but they are very helpful. Also if you are able to take Wheezie to a feline cardiologist they have more knowledge than regular vetsI will be thinking of you and Wheezie... Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20
RE: Pics of my boys
Kerry thank you so much for your kind words.The pics of Maizee are just a handful of the pics I have of that beauty.She grew up in front of the camera,she is probably still seeing flashing lights. :) Especially when I found out she had felv.I swear I took pictures of her everyday.I even started a sort of journal to note all the sweet and special things that she did or would do that made me smile( I am crying now just thinking of some of those sweet things) I think she will always live in our (boyfriend and I) hearts,he has a silly voice that he does that he always said it was her talking to him. Boy she sure swore alot,but I guess I would too after all that she went through in her short life. He still makes me laugh when he starts that talking and he does this pouty look when he does it,just cracks me up. :) He really loved her very much too.She was an amazing beautiful girl,and I believe she led me to my 3 beautiful boys. :) Take care Kerry and hugs to you. Sherry and the boyz"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:These are wonderful pix of your honeys, Sherry. Maizee's coloring is amazing. You must be so glad you have all these gorgeous pix of her to remind you of the special place she occupied and continues to occupy in your life. I'm also hugely impressed by the fact you've been able to do all this, considering how much of your time is already taken up at the sanctuary. Thanks for sharing, hugs, Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaanSent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:51 AMTo: FelvtalkSubject: Pics of my boys Hi all I know that some of you have seen 2 of my boys,but my newest Xander I have added to my photo albums.If you would like to have a look I will add the website at the bottom.I know everyone hears me talk about Maizee,she is the reason that I have all you wonderful people in my life now.A sad way to find new friends but I am so happy to have you all to help support me in my sanctuary volunteering.Losing those precious babies are almost just as hard as when Maizee passed.I beleve that she was in my life for only a short time to lead me to what I do now for all these other babies in need of love(thank you baby girl :) ) Ok enough of my jibberish. Lots of prayers to everyones furkids in need of them.I hope you enjoy the pics of my fur kids. Sherry and the boyz http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sherrydj88/my_photos How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
Re: OT Food and IBD - Kelly
Phaewryn, Isn't there any way to put him on medication to see if he would tolerate other cats that way? It may be worth a try rather than euthanizing. It really help with Cody. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Belinda
Hi Belinda,could you add Gibson to the CLS? He crossed the bridge on Aug 15.He had felv and fiv.He was a big sweet tiger who was only with us at the sanctuary a short time.Thank you. Sherry Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Spencer update
Well we just got back from the vet. The first set of xrays showed fluid build up around his lungs and made it hard to see what was going on with his organs or if they could detect any masses. So they drained the fluid and did another set of xrays. They also gave him oxygen and subq fluids, (the subqs I could have done at home, but figured it would be better to not have to put him through any added stress after we did get home). He actually seems hydrated enough with good color to his gums, but we figured since he hasn't been eating it couldn't hurt. Bottom line is that we don't know much more than that he had fluid build up that was making it hard to breath, we don't know why and the xrays weren't definitive enough for the doctor on duty to be able to tell anything. (I got a lot of well, it could be, but maybe nots). At least he feels better as I'm writing this, he even ate a little bit for me when we got home. They wanted to keep him overnight, but I said no thank you. He's better off at home where he'll be more comfortable. So here I sit, a good deal poorer, with no answers that will help him. They wanted to send in the fluid to be analyzed, but the vet warned me that they might not be able to tell anything from it. Since that would have been an extra $200 bucks, I told them to hold on to it and let me talk to his regular Internist about it in the morning. We're over $1400 as it is and no closer to helping him get well then before we started. Extremely big sigh. Nina
Ah s**t Tad - Leo
Tad, Your heart barely has time to heal before you end up saying goodbye to yet another of your sweet babies. I don't remember hearing about Leo, could you tell us something more about him? You are such a blessings to your babies. Knowing of people like you and Marie, folks that understand these sweet angels, and give them the type of life they deserve, is an inspiration to us all. Little Leo enjoyed his life as much as he did because he had a human that cares enough to pay attention and communicate with his felines on their own terms. You're as close to cat in human form as they come and I'm sure your babies appreciate it. Bless it Tad, I'm so sorry. It helps just a little to know he enjoyed life as much as he could right up to the end. It never gets easier, no matter how many times we go through it. You are so generous to write to me about my troubles with Spencer while you're suffering with your own stress and grief. I'll ask my vet about the pill, I'm guessing it must be some sort of diuretic. Blessings to you and Marie. You guys go through so much, what would the kitties do without you? Thank you once again for all you do for so many. Nina Tad Burnett wrote: I have had 2 FeLV+ cats that have had fluid on the lungs and that makes breathing very difficult for them... One xray can show the space around the lungs that indicates the fluid filling the cavity and making it hard to breath in... A pill to absorb that fluid does relieve the breathing in only a couple hours... The fluid is most likely there because of a cancer somewhere though and the pill won't fix that... But it can give a few weeks of quality life... I am having a hard time to write this because I just lost my Little Leo a couple hours ago but it did help him and although he has been getting weaker and weaker for a while he did seem to be able to enjoy the things and places that he liked right up to the end Tad
