Re: Pete To Bridge

[Gina WN]

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Re: Peanut/Special Needs List/Update

[Samiluke]

Thanks Belinda  all of you for your support  prayers. The 
vet called  Peanut's liver values were all elevated. Her bilirubin 
 white count were thru the roof. He thinks that cholangiohepatitis is 
the most likely culprit. I took her to the vet for 3 days of supportive 
care  treatment (IV fluids, antibiotics, syringe feeding). I hated to 
do it...I don't want her to feel scared, but I felt it was her only 
chance. I really felt that she wouldn'thave survived the night if I 
had kept her here. It was really hard to leave, but I'm hoping this will 
turn her around. I had to go to work after that  there were no phone 
calls from them since I dropped her off, so I'm considering that to be good 
news. They would have called me if she would have needed to be moved to a 
24 hour vet for overnite care, so she was apparently medically stable enough to 
go the night there. Thanks again for the prayers  keep 'em coming 
:)

Yvonne

In a message dated 9/27/2006 1:37:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi 
  Yvonne, I hope it isn't hepatic lipidosis, the only 
  thing that will reverse that is enough food. The liver is one of 
  the organs that definitely can heal itself, but if she is jaundice from not 
  eating enough then food, more importantly enough food is the only way to save 
  her. Not saying this to scare you it is a fact and I've seen it enough 
  to know it is very reversible, Buddie had this, hers was caught very early on 
  and she was fine.Lots of prayers for Peanut. Make sure she is 
  getting a can to a can and half of food a day if this is what she has. 
  And yes it can strike in just a day or two if a cat quits eating, especially 
  if the cat is overweight to start with.I'm adding her now, hope her 
  blood work comes back with out any serious problems going on.-- 

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

[Samiluke]

Hi Belinda,

At this point, Peanut is not scheduled for surgery, but a feeding tube is 
just an option I'm considering, depending on how things go the next several 
days.

Yvonne

In a message dated 9/27/2006 2:11:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi 
  Yvonne, Did I miss something in your email, I didn't realize 
  he was going to have surgery???

Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

[Samiluke]

Wow! What a small world! :)

Yvonne

In a message dated 9/27/2006 2:13:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  LOL, me too, at the 
  moment. I work downtown, and live in Racine. ;-)
  
  Diane

Re: Peanut/Special Needs List/Update

[kelly]

At 12:06 AM 9/28/2006, you wrote:

I am so sorry and hope Peanuts is doing better. I have been dealing with
cholangiohepatitis for almost a year now on a non FELV cat, He needed
surgery and the ultra sound showed a lousy gallbladder and stones , He
had surgery and is on a lot of meds but is doing so very well, His labs
are normal again and the vomiting is rare, His weight is up and he is no
in pain, 
Please keep us informed and all my best wishes for Peanuts,
Kelly
Thanks Belinda
 all of you for your support  prayers. The vet called
 Peanut's liver values were all elevated. Her bilirubin 
white count were thru the roof. He thinks that cholangiohepatitis
is the most likely culprit. I took her to the vet for 3 days of
supportive care  treatment (IV fluids, antibiotics, syringe
feeding). I hated to do it...I don't want her to feel scared, but I
felt it was her only chance. I really felt that she wouldn't have
survived the night if I had kept her here. It was really hard to
leave, but I'm hoping this will turn her around. I had to go to
work after that  there were no phone calls from them since I dropped
her off, so I'm considering that to be good news. They would have
called me if she would have needed to be moved to a 24 hour vet for
overnite care, so she was apparently medically stable enough to go the
night there. Thanks again for the prayers  keep 'em coming
:)

Yvonne

In a message dated 9/27/2006 1:37:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Yvonne,

 I hope it isn't hepatic lipidosis, the only thing
that will reverse that is enough food. The liver is one of the
organs that definitely can heal itself, but if she is jaundice from not
eating enough then food, more importantly enough food is the only way to
save her. Not saying this to scare you it is a fact and I've seen
it enough to know it is very reversible, Buddie had this, hers was caught
very early on and she was fine.

Lots of prayers for Peanut. Make sure she is getting a can to a
can and half of food a day if this is what she has. And yes it can
strike in just a day or two if a cat quits eating, especially if the cat
is overweight to start with.

I'm adding her now, hope her blood work comes back with out any
serious problems going on.


-- 


Belinda

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Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

[Samiluke]

Leslie,

I can't tell you how heartened I am to hear your story about Goliath. 
Even Peanut's ears were yellow when I dropped her off...I was pretty scared, but 
I'm starting to calm down now. Her bilirubin was 10.8  I guess normal 
is .1 to .4. Her white cell count was a whopping 44,000  normal is 
16,000. I will definitely ask about the SamE.

I think we got a good omen as we were leaving the vet. My hubby had 
met me there after he got off of work  as we were turning on to the road 
from the vet, I saw him gesturing at the SUV in front of us. I look where 
he's pointing  this SUV's licence plate says ME A PNUT. Now, what are 
the odds of coming out of the vet clinic  seeing your cat's name on 
someone's license plate? Maybe it seems weird, but I'm considering 
ita good sign!

Thank you so much for giving me hope!

Yvonne

In a message dated 9/27/2006 2:14:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We also turned Goliath around from liver 
  failure... the vet said he was sending him home to die that there was nothing 
  he could do. He said he was one of the worst cases he had seen (Goliath 
  was almost completely yellow).

Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

[Samiluke]

Thank you so much, Tonya!

Yvonne

***8

Yvonne,

Prayers for Peanut.

tonya

Re: Peanut/Special Needs List/Update

[Samiluke]

Thank you, Kelly...hearing stories like this is making me feel so much 
better:) Do you know if there is a list for hepatitis? I 
joined the Hepatic Lipidosis list  the Assisted Feeding list  am 
getting some great info. Thanks again. I will keep you posted  
will keep your kitty in my prayers, as well.

Yvonne  Peanut

In a message dated 9/28/2006 2:19:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am so 
  sorry and hope Peanuts is doing better. I have been dealing with 
  cholangiohepatitis for almost a year now on a non FELV cat, He needed surgery 
  and the ultra sound showed a lousy gallbladder and stones , He had surgery and 
  is on a lot of meds but is doing so very well, His labs are normal again and 
  the vomiting is rare, His weight is up and he is no in pain, Please keep 
  us informed and all my best wishes for 
Peanuts,Kelly

Re: Ideas to make the car less stressful?

[Marylyn]

Try Feliway and a concentrated catnip + Rescue 
Remedy (for both of you) and cover the carrier but be careful not to let the cat 
get too hot. Put a pillow or towel inside the carrier so the cat does not 
bounce around as much. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt hid herself under her 
towels and overheated big time. Luckily we were on the way to 
the vet's and I had ice with me. It was a cool day too--low 70's. 





 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Peggy 
  Ankney 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:51 
  PM
  Subject: Ideas to make the car less 
  stressful?
  
  
  I have the same problem when 
  taking the cats to the vet. I’ve 
  found that each cat is different. 
  Montana (an older 
  cat) hates the car but prefers to be allowed to sit on the passenger side 
  floor. (But before you try this 
  for the whole trip, I recommend driving around the neighborhood or a parking 
  lot just in case your cat freaks out and distracts you – that can be a 
  disaster! Best if you have a 
  friend go along just in case.) 
  Montana does OK but he drools and poops – it’s a sure way to get a 
  stool sample, though not the most pleasant on the olfactory nerve. My other cat, Karma, prefers the 
  security of the cat carrier, though she cries the entire way to the vet. For very long trips I get drugs from 
  the vet (for the cat, not me) to help them relax. Scoter only had one trip so far, and 
  he did OK in the carrier. I’ve 
  never tried drugs for short trips because I don’t want anything to affect the 
  results of the physical more than the ride in the car already does, but 
  perhaps I’ll give them a little catnip next time and see if it helps. 
  

Re: Ideas to make the car less stressful?

[Marylyn]




There are some nice carriers made for dogs that are 
soft sided (metal covered with a fabric). I got one for the Royal Princess 
Kitty Katt. She absolutely hated the plastic carriers. They are sort 
of awkward to carry (no handles) but narrow enough you can reach around. 





 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:09 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Ideas to make the car less 
  stressful?
  
  
  
  Phelix likes to drive...He stands on his hind legs and looks out the 
  window. When we arrive hegets up on meand hangs over my 
  shoulder not the least bit concerned. When the vet comes in, Phelix 
  gives him head butts. Antonio likes the car too and loves to look 
  out. Good thing too since I can't seem to find a carrier big enough for 
  him -- boughtone advertised as such but when I picked it upthe 
  handlebroke off. (he could pass for a puma - big boy) For 
  everybody else though it's the pet taxi and a big dose of Rescue Remedy. 
  Bring your body armor.
  
  elizabeth
  
  In a message dated 9/24/2006 7:51:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I have the same problem when 
taking the cats to the vet. 
I’ve found that each cat is different. 
Montana (an 
older cat) hates the car but prefers to be allowed to sit on the passenger 
side floor. (But before you try 
this for the whole trip, I recommend driving around the neighborhood or a 
parking lot just in case your cat freaks out and distracts you – that can be 
a disaster! Best if you have a 
friend go along just in case.) 
Montana does OK but he drools and poops – it’s a sure way to get a 
stool sample, though not the most pleasant on the olfactory nerve. My other cat, Karma, prefers the 
security of the cat carrier, though she cries the entire way to the 
vet. For very long trips I get 
drugs from the vet (for the cat, not me) to help them relax. Scoter only had one trip so far, and 
he did OK in the carrier. I’ve 
never tried drugs for short trips because I don’t want anything to affect 
the results of the physical more than the ride in the car already does, but 
perhaps I’ll give them a little catnip next time and see if it helps. 

  
  
  Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people 
  have.

Re: Traveling with a cat

[Marylyn]

Dixie travels with me all the time (never camping though).  Be very careful 
that no one lets her out.  Cats are sneaky and they are bear bait.  Try my 
old standbys--Feliway and concentrated catnip + Rescue Remedy to calm her. 
You may want to put a sheet over the cage while you are traveling and when 
you are not with her.


It sounds a lot better than leaving her at an unattended vet's.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: Traveling with a cat



I know this is off the subject but I was wanting to
get some opinions on traveling with a cat.  We are
going camping this weekend in the Smoky Mountains in a
pop up camper.  My diabetic cat, Katie, will not allow
anybody in our family to give her the insulin shots
except myself and my husband.  So if we go anywhere
most of the time we have to board her which I hate.  I
worry about her the whole time and she doesn't eat
good there.  The vet leaves at 5:00 p.m. on Friday and
11:30 a.m. on Saturday.  If anything happend to her
there probably wouldn't be anybody there. So, I have
decided to take her with us.  I have a cage she can
stay in inside the camper.  I will not let her outside
any up there.  I figured she would be stressed and in
a cage if I boarded her.  She would feel better being
with me.  My mom will feed all our other animals.  Do
you guys think that would be O.K.  Sorry this was so
long.

Cindy Reasoner

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Re: Traveling with a cat

[Marylyn]

And watch out for fumes entering the trailer.  What is a little for us may 
be a lot for a cat.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
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Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Traveling with a cat



I would just be sure the cage was in the least noisy area of the moving
vehicle - away from the motor/engine and anything that makes noise.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/25/06 2:24:39 PM 

that sounds like an elegant solution - you'll be able to cover the cage
with a mommy or daddy smelling blanket so she'll have a safe cave and
she'll get some great sight-seeing:)

cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I know this is off the
subject but I was wanting to
get some opinions on traveling with a cat. We are
going camping this weekend in the Smoky Mountains in a
pop up camper. My diabetic cat, Katie, will not allow
anybody in our family to give her the insulin shots
except myself and my husband. So if we go anywhere
most of the time we have to board her which I hate. I
worry about her the whole time and she doesn't eat
good there. The vet leaves at 5:00 p.m. on Friday and
11:30 a.m. on Saturday. If anything happend to her
there probably wouldn't be anybody there. So, I have
decided to take her with us. I have a cage she can
stay in inside the camper. I will not let her outside
any up there. I figured she would be stressed and in
a cage if I boarded her. She would feel better being
with me. My mom will feed all our other animals. Do
you guys think that would be O.K. Sorry this was so
long.

Cindy Reasoner

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Re: Traveling with a cat

[Marylyn]

Do you remember the name of the hotel?  Gatlinburg is a lot of fun.






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compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
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- Original Message - 
From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Traveling with a cat



The trip is only about 1 1/2 hours.  Katie has been on
2 trips with us before.  She went with us to my father
in-laws in Nashville which is about a 4 hour drive and
she did fine.  We kept her in the room we were staying
in.  Also, we found a hotel in Gatlinburg which
allowed pets and we took her with us there.  She is a
pretty laid back cat.  As long as she is with us she
does good.  I did talk to my vet about it.

Cindy Reasoner

--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It depends on how long the drive is.  If it's a
REALLY
long drive, you have to weigh how much that would
stress her out versus being boarded.  But if it were
me, considering she has to have those meds, I'd
probably take her with me.  Just research ahead of
time the closest vet (and emergency vet) to you in
the
Smokies in case something unforseen happens.  Have
fun!  I'm envious!

:)
Wendy

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Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

[Leslie Lawther]

Yvonne, Please do ask about SamE... but you will probably have to tell your vet Zentonil (he will recognize that name). If he doesn't recommend it... I will give you a website you can order 100mg SamE... I swear by that stuff. If you have any questions or when you get Peanut home please feel free to email me... I will give you my number too if you want to call. I really think the key is feeding A LOT of small meals... and SamE... good luck, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your husband and Peanut

Leslie =^..^=
On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Leslie,

I can't tell you how heartened I am to hear your story about Goliath. Even Peanut's ears were yellow when I dropped her off...I was pretty scared, but I'm starting to calm down now. Her bilirubin was 10.8  I guess normal is .1 to .4. Her white cell count was a whopping 44,000  normal is 16,000. I will definitely ask about the SamE.


I think we got a good omen as we were leaving the vet. My hubby had met me there after he got off of work  as we were turning on to the road from the vet, I saw him gesturing at the SUV in front of us. I look where he's pointing  this SUV's licence plate says ME A PNUT. Now, what are the odds of coming out of the vet clinic  seeing your cat's name on someone's license plate? Maybe it seems weird, but I'm considering ita good sign!


Thank you so much for giving me hope!

Yvonne

In a message dated 9/27/2006 2:14:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

We also turned Goliath around from liver failure... the vet said he was sending him home to die that there was nothing he could do. He said he was one of the worst cases he had seen (Goliath was almost completely yellow).


-- Leslie =^..^=To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
---Ralph Waldo Emerson 

Re: Traveling with a cat

[cindy reasoner]

Yes, It was the Holiday Inn.  I just told them we
didn't want any maid service.  I was worried about
anybody else coming into the room.  I think there are
some cabins and chalets that allow pets too.  I don't
know what kind of pet deposit they charge.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you remember the name of the hotel?  Gatlinburg
 is a lot of fun.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Traveling with a cat
 
 
  The trip is only about 1 1/2 hours.  Katie has
 been on
  2 trips with us before.  She went with us to my
 father
  in-laws in Nashville which is about a 4 hour drive
 and
  she did fine.  We kept her in the room we were
 staying
  in.  Also, we found a hotel in Gatlinburg which
  allowed pets and we took her with us there.  She
 is a
  pretty laid back cat.  As long as she is with us
 she
  does good.  I did talk to my vet about it.
 
  Cindy Reasoner
 
  --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It depends on how long the drive is.  If it's a
  REALLY
  long drive, you have to weigh how much that would
  stress her out versus being boarded.  But if it
 were
  me, considering she has to have those meds, I'd
  probably take her with me.  Just research ahead
 of
  time the closest vet (and emergency vet) to you
 in
  the
  Smokies in case something unforseen happens. 
 Have
  fun!  I'm envious!
 
  :)
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Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

[Marylyn]

Sounds like a good sign to me. I'll second 
the SAM-E thing. Mai Mai took the official vet version of it when she had 
major liver problems and it really helped. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Leslie 
  Lawther 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:36 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Peanut/Special Needs 
  List
  
  Yvonne, Please do ask about SamE... but you 
  will probably have to tell your vet Zentonil (he will recognize that 
  name). If he doesn't recommend it... I will give you a website you can 
  order 100mg SamE... I swear by that stuff. If you have any questions or 
  when you get Peanut home please feel free to email me... I will give you my 
  number too if you want to call. I really think the key is feeding A LOT 
  of small meals... and SamE... good luck, my thoughts and prayers are with you 
  and your husband and Peanut 
  Leslie 
  =^..^=
  On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  


Leslie,

I can't tell you how heartened I am to hear your story about 
Goliath. Even Peanut's ears were yellow when I dropped her off...I was 
pretty scared, but I'm starting to calm down now. Her bilirubin was 
10.8  I guess normal is .1 to .4. Her white cell count was a 
whopping 44,000  normal is 16,000. I will definitely ask about 
the SamE. 

I think we got a good omen as we were leaving the vet. My hubby 
had met me there after he got off of work  as we were turning on to the 
road from the vet, I saw him gesturing at the SUV in front of us. I 
look where he's pointing  this SUV's licence plate says ME A 
PNUT. Now, what are the odds of coming out of the vet clinic  
seeing your cat's name on someone's license plate? Maybe it seems 
weird, but I'm considering ita good sign! 

Thank you so much for giving me hope!

Yvonne

In a message dated 9/27/2006 2:14:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We also turned Goliath around from 
  liver failure... the vet said he was sending him home to die that there 
  was nothing he could do. He said he was one of the worst cases he 
  had seen (Goliath was almost completely yellow). 
  

-- 
  Leslie =^..^=To leave the world a better 
  place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social 
  condition - that is to have succeeded.That only one life breathed 
  easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson 

Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

[kelly]

At 06:07 AM 9/28/2006, you wrote:
White Kitty is also on Sam E

Sounds like a good
sign to me. I'll second the SAM-E thing. Mai Mai took the
official vet version of it when she had major liver problems and it
really helped. 







If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 

will deal likewise with their fellow man.

St. Francis


- Original Message - 

From: Leslie Lawther


To:

felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:36 AM

Subject: Re: Peanut/Special Needs List

Yvonne, Please do ask about SamE... but you
will probably have to tell your vet Zentonil (he will recognize that
name). If he doesn't recommend it... I will give you a website you
can order 100mg SamE... I swear by that stuff. If you have any
questions or when you get Peanut home please feel free to email me... I
will give you my number too if you want to call. I really think the
key is feeding A LOT of small meals... and SamE... good luck, my thoughts
and prayers are with you and your husband and Peanut 

Leslie =^..^=



On 9/28/06,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Leslie,



I can't tell you how heartened I am to hear your story about
Goliath. Even Peanut's ears were yellow when I dropped her off...I
was pretty scared, but I'm starting to calm down now. Her bilirubin
was 10.8  I guess normal is .1 to .4. Her white cell count was
a whopping 44,000  normal is 16,000. I will definitely ask
about the SamE. 



I think we got a good omen as we were leaving the vet. My hubby
had met me there after he got off of work  as we were turning on to
the road from the vet, I saw him gesturing at the SUV in front of
us. I look where he's pointing  this SUV's licence plate says
ME A PNUT. Now, what are the odds of coming out of the vet clinic
 seeing your cat's name on someone's license plate? Maybe it
seems weird, but I'm considering it a good sign! 



Thank you so much for giving me hope!



Yvonne



In a message dated 9/27/2006 2:14:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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writes:


We also turned Goliath around from liver
failure... the vet said he was sending him home to die that there was
nothing he could do. He said he was one of the worst cases he had
seen (Goliath was almost completely yellow). 







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Leslie =^..^=

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garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have
succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived -
that is success. 

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re: OT-traveling w/kitties

[Barb Moermond]

I'm posting this on behalf of MC:)my cats LOVE our pop-up with a passion; if i put if up in the yard one   of my persians cries and cries until i take him out there! there's   something about all those windows to look out of, i guess i have a   screen room for mine, and have it fixed up so that they can't get out   around the edges. i had a friend who was temporarily homeless, and she   and her five cats lived in it at a campground for 5 months--had a cat   tree out in the screen room! i've never kept them caged while in the   camper; if you're really worried, tho, consider letting her out at night   after you've locked the door and aren't planning on going out again.  i have other friends who go on extended camping trips every summer, and   their three very active cats go with them every time. they, too,
 seem to   kove the experience. again, it's the windows and all the neat things   they don't get to see and smell at home. her cats are all harness/leash   trained, so they get to wander around the campgrounds with their   parents  since she doesn't mind travelling, i can't see how there's any question   that taking her with you is a much better plan than sticking her at some   yucky boarding place! (descriptive terms supplied by my cats)  --   Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!  Maybe That'll Make The Difference  MaryChristine  AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ICQ: 289856892Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."   
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re: OT-traveling w/kitties

[cindy reasoner]

That is so neat that your friends have their cats
harness/leash trained.  I do remember going camping
once and a couple had their cat outside on a leash.  I
wish I could train Katie.  I will let her out of the
cage some.  It is suppose to get pretty cool Friday
night and Katie never goes outside at home.  This may
be a stupid question but do you think she could get
sick from the cold weather?  Where we are going
camping there is no electrical hookups.  I don't think
there would be a problem with fleas or ticks but just
to be safe we put Frontline on her last night.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm posting this on behalf of MC:)

   my cats LOVE our pop-up with a passion; if i put
 if up in the yard one 
   of my persians cries and cries until i take him
 out there! there's 
   something about all those windows to look out of,
 i guess i have a 
   screen room for mine, and have it fixed up so that
 they can't get out 
   around the edges. i had a friend who was
 temporarily homeless, and she 
   and her five cats lived in it at a campground for
 5 months--had a cat 
   tree out in the screen room! i've never kept them
 caged while in the 
   camper; if you're really worried, tho, consider
 letting her out at night 
   after you've locked the door and aren't planning
 on going out again.
   i have other friends who go on extended camping
 trips every summer, and 
   their three very active cats go with them every
 time. they, too, seem to 
   kove the experience. again, it's the windows and
 all the neat things 
   they don't get to see and smell at home. her cats
 are all harness/leash 
   trained, so they get to wander around the
 campgrounds with their 
   parents
   since she doesn't mind travelling, i can't see how
 there's any question 
   that taking her with you is a much better plan
 than sticking her at some 
   yucky boarding place! (descriptive terms supplied
 by my cats)
   -- 
   Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
   Maybe That'll Make The Difference
   MaryChristine
   AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
   MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   ICQ: 289856892
 
 
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
 
 My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should
 impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases
 him, and making me smile. 
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RE: lump from injection site - dangerous?

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you so very much for your response...I apologize if it was not
clear, but Dharma has been diagnosed with FIP a couple of weeks ago, as
lump on her neck sounds as threatening as it can be, right now,
treatment for her FIP has to come first.  I lost two of my babies Naomi
and Peter in August and have seen how quickly this disease progresses.
And FIP is stress reduced disease, and I have to minimize the stress I
am giving it to her, which include a trip to the vet.. even if it is a
cancer, I cannot let her go through the surgery, she is only 5 months
old and she only weighs 3.14 lb -- and there is no way that I am going
to let her go through the stress..

And my gut feeling is that it is NOT cancer.. if it came from
injections, it's too soon to develop (it has been only less than 10 days
after her fluid and vitamin injections).. I don't know what it is, but
it's definitely not getting bigger,, and again, right now, it's
secondary problem to me.. I just need to deal with this FIP first...

Again, thank you so very much -- I really appreciate your information
and will keep in my hand..

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lora
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: lump from injection site - dangerous?

Hideyo,

Any new tumor and/or growth mass that suddenly
apprears on the body should not be taken lightly.

Feline tumors, whether it is a malignant/benign
fibrosarcoma or just a fatty subcutaneous cyst, should
be evaluated immediately via practicing, licensed,
board certified veterinarian whould is experienced,
skilled and proficient with feline sarcomas.

The good news is that Dharma may not have a
fibrosacoma at all. The lump could just be a simple
cyst that needs to be drained. A needle biopsy can
confirm that.

The veterinarian will insert a needle into the core of
the tumor, which is attached to an empty syringe, and
if the lump is indeed a cyct, he/she will extract
fluid; however, if no fluid appears, then it is most
likely a fibrosarcoma.

Regardless, if the fluid was successfully drained, the
sample should be sent to pathology for a
histopathology report to rule out possible cancer
cells.

The bad news is that fibrosarcomas are highly
malignant tumors. They can occur for no apparent
reason and, in some cases, can occur as a form of
vaccine reaction at vaccination sites; more commonly
known as Feline Vaccine-Associated Sacoma (FVAS).
Obviously, this is a serious side effect when
vaccinations are implicated as the cause.

Fibrosarcomas generally do not appear to be painful.
They progress fairly slowly in most cases, but it is
best to remove them as soon as possible due to the
difficulty in getting enough tissue around the margins
as the tumor grows in size.

Once Dharma has been seen by your local and trusted
veterinarian and a preoperative biopsy has been
completed (some veterinaians will perform a
preoperatinve biopsy prior to amputation surgery, some
won't) removal of the mass is usually the next step.
It is just a personal preference on how comfortable
your veterinarain feels about performing the operation
on an individual case via case base.

Surgery for vaccine-related sarcomas works about 50%
of the time. It works a lot better if a biopsy is done
prior to the first surgery so that the 
surgeon knows that this is a fibrosarcoma from the
onset.

In that case, a surgeon who is familar with surgery
for aggressive cancers should be consulted and should
perform the surgery.

Again, there is some chance that your veterinarian may
feel comfortable enough about removing the tumor
his/her own self, but most general practitioners do
not. Dharma will just have to be examed by your
veterinarian an evaluated on individual case via case
base. If your veterinarain will perform the operation,
great; if not, Dharma will have to be referred to a
surgical specialist.

Nevertheless, removal of the fibrosarcoma has to be
done very aggressively due to their high metastasize
rate. These tumors are often malignant and it is not
uncommon for the cancer to spread to other regions of
the body, usually the nose cavity, chest and lungs.
Metastasis to other organs can be very difficult to
detect without the assistance of a MRI or CT imaging.

This is why is it extremely important to do a WIDE
surgical excision that has a wide surgical margin (at
least an inch in every direction is necessary when
removing the tumor in order to prevent metastasis.)

Since an inch below these tumors often includes the
bones of the spine there is a strong tendency among
veterinarians not to be this aggressive. This is why
very few vets will perform the amputation operation on
the presumption that a fibrosarcoma is present.

There is good evidence to suggest that the wide
surgical procedure has the best chance at getting all
of the tumor so it is important to plan this surgery
well.

Due to this, seeing an oncologist first may be best

Re: OT-traveling w/kitties

[Marylyn]

Just have some very big soft towels handy for her to curl up in.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:10 PM
Subject: re: OT-traveling w/kitties



That is so neat that your friends have their cats
harness/leash trained.  I do remember going camping
once and a couple had their cat outside on a leash.  I
wish I could train Katie.  I will let her out of the
cage some.  It is suppose to get pretty cool Friday
night and Katie never goes outside at home.  This may
be a stupid question but do you think she could get
sick from the cold weather?  Where we are going
camping there is no electrical hookups.  I don't think
there would be a problem with fleas or ticks but just
to be safe we put Frontline on her last night.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm posting this on behalf of MC:)

  my cats LOVE our pop-up with a passion; if i put
if up in the yard one
  of my persians cries and cries until i take him
out there! there's
  something about all those windows to look out of,
i guess i have a
  screen room for mine, and have it fixed up so that
they can't get out
  around the edges. i had a friend who was
temporarily homeless, and she
  and her five cats lived in it at a campground for
5 months--had a cat
  tree out in the screen room! i've never kept them
caged while in the
  camper; if you're really worried, tho, consider
letting her out at night
  after you've locked the door and aren't planning
on going out again.
  i have other friends who go on extended camping
trips every summer, and
  their three very active cats go with them every
time. they, too, seem to
  kove the experience. again, it's the windows and
all the neat things
  they don't get to see and smell at home. her cats
are all harness/leash
  trained, so they get to wander around the
campgrounds with their
  parents
  since she doesn't mind travelling, i can't see how
there's any question
  that taking her with you is a much better plan
than sticking her at some
  yucky boarding place! (descriptive terms supplied
by my cats)
  -- 
  Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!

  Maybe That'll Make The Difference
  MaryChristine
  AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ICQ: 289856892


Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should
impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases
him, and making me smile.
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Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you if you could take a moment
to pray for my Dharma, as some of you may know, I found out that Dharma may
have dry FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has been treated with feline
interferon. Over the course of weeks, she has good days and not so good
days, now she really does not have an appetite much and I have been syringe
feeding her.. I talked to jasmine, my AC and she mentioned to me yesterday
that.. symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on between the virus and
Dharma in her body  the virus seems to be stronger, but Dharma seems to
be even stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and but taking a lot
of energy from her --- 



Everyone, please picture my Dharma - she is 5 months old
and has a tiny body, has beautiful medium hair, and she is a calico girl 
please imagine or picture her protected or covered by white beam of light to
her  its supposed to help her energy.. if you could imagine my
Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not clear and not solid
white) lights and protected by the lights,, I will be so grateful if you could
do this as often as you can,, or pray in words that she will be protected by angels
and protected by these white beam of lights.. I really could use a lot of
healing energy. This virus is very mean and stubborn and I could use all of
your healing wish and positive energy



I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharmas sister) and Peter in
August to the same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma.. please help
and support Dharma get through this and beat the disease..



Sincerely,



Hideyo and Dharma..

Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[kelly]

At 11:23 AM 9/28/2006, you wrote:
I will do anything to help Good warm thought heading straight to
Dharma
Kelly
Hi, everyone, I
wanted to ask you if you could take a moment to pray for my Dharma, as
some of you may know, I found out that Dharma may have dry FIP a couple
of weeks ago.. and she has been treated with feline interferon…. Over the
course of weeks, she has good days and not so good days, now she really
does not have an appetite much and I have been syringe feeding her.. I
talked to jasmine, my AC and she mentioned to me yesterday that..
symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on between the virus and
Dharma in her body – the virus seems to be stronger, but Dharma seems to
be even stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and but taking
a lot of energy from her --- 

Everyone, please picture my Dharma - she is 5 months old and has
a tiny body, has beautiful medium hair, and she is a calico
girl – please imagine or picture her protected or covered by white beam
of light to her – it’s supposed to help her energy.. if you could imagine
my Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not clear and not
solid white) lights and protected by the lights,, I will be so
grateful if you could do this as often as you can,, or pray in words that
she will be protected by angels and protected by these white beam of
lights.. I really could use a lot of healing energy. This virus is
very mean and stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish and
positive energy…

I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharma’s sister) and Peter in August to the same
disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma.. please help and support
Dharma get through this and beat the disease..

Sincerely,

Hideyo and Dharma..
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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Marylyn]

Lots of prayers and angels coming to Dharma and to 
you.






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:23 
  PM
  Subject: Prayers for my Dharma -- 
  Please!!!
  
  
  Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you 
  if you could take a moment to pray for my Dharma, as some of you may know, I 
  found out that Dharma may have dry FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has 
  been treated with feline interferon…. Over the course of weeks, she has good 
  days and not so good days, now she really does not have an appetite much and I 
  have been syringe feeding her.. I talked to jasmine, my AC and she mentioned 
  to me yesterday that.. symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on 
  between the virus and Dharma in her body – the virus seems to be stronger, but 
  Dharma seems to be even stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and 
  but taking a lot of energy from her --- 
  
  Everyone, please picture my 
  Dharma - she is 5 months old and has a tiny body, has beautiful 
  medium hair, and she is a calico girl – please imagine or picture her 
  protected or covered by white beam of light to her – it’s supposed to help her 
  energy.. if you could imagine my Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of 
  opaque, not clear and not solid white) lights and protected by the 
  lights,, I will be so grateful if you could do this as often as you can,, or 
  pray in words that she will be protected by angels and protected by these 
  white beam of lights.. I really could use a lot of healing energy. This 
  virus is very mean and stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish and 
  positive energy…
  
  I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharma’s 
  sister) and Peter in August to the same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose 
  Dharma.. please help and support Dharma get through this and beat the 
  disease..
  
  Sincerely,
  
  Hideyo and 
  Dharma..

Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[kandbz_ mom]

Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you and little Dharma...I am thinking of her and sending her positive vibes. These kitties have been so lucky to have youyou have done so much for them. Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you if you could take a moment to pray for my Dharma, as some of you may know, I found out that Dharma may have dry FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has been treated with feline interferon…. Over the course of weeks, she has good days and not so good days, now she really does not have an appetite much and I have been syringe feeding her.. I talked to jasmine, my AC and she mentioned to me yesterday that.. symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on between the virus and Dharma in her body – the virus seems to be stronger, but Dharma seems to be even
 stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and but taking a lot of energy from her --- Everyone, please picture my Dharma - she is 5 months old and has a tiny body, has beautiful medium hair, and she is a calico girl – please imagine or picture her protected or covered by white beam of light to her – it’s supposed to help her energy.. if you could imagine my Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not clear and not solid white) lights and protected by the lights,, I will be so grateful if you could do this as often as you can,, or pray in words that she will be protected by angels and protected by
 these white beam of lights.. I really could use a lot of healing energy. This virus is very mean and stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish and positive energy…I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharma’s sister) and Peter in August to the same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma.. please help and support Dharma get through this and beat the disease..Sincerely,Hideyo and Dharma.. 
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what's appropriate calorie in take for cats

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, my Dharma weighs about 3.14 lb and wanted to see what
the appropriate calorie in take for her if I are giving her A/D food  



How much does a whole A/C have in calorie and how many
syringes per day should she be fed? Does not have to be exact.. .



Thank you.



Hideyo

Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[etrent]

sending white light and angelsto Dharma





elizabeth




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 1:23 PM
Subject: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!











Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you if you could take a moment to pray for my Dharma, as some of you may know, I found out that Dharma may have dry FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has been treated with feline interferon…. Over the course of weeks, she has good days and not so good days, now she really does not have an appetite much and I have been syringe feeding her.. I talked to jasmine, my AC and she mentioned to me yesterday that.. symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on between the virus and Dharma in her body – the virus seems to be stronger, but Dharma seems to be even stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and but taking a lot of energy from her --- 





Everyone, please picture my Dharma - she is 5 months old and has a tiny body, has beautiful medium hair, and she is a calico girl – please imagine or picture her protected or covered by white beam of light to her – it’s supposed to help her energy.. if you could imagine my Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not clear and not solid white) lights and protected by the lights,, I will be so grateful if you could do this as often as you can,, or pray in words that she will be protected by angels and protected by these white beam of lights.. I really could use a lot of healing energy. This virus is very mean and stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish and positive energy…





I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharma’s sister) and Peter in August to the same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma.. please help and support Dharma get through this and beat the disease..





Sincerely,





Hideyo and Dharma..





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To Belinda (was: Looking for 2 Good Vets near Fort Worth, TX.

[Kat]

Hi Belinda,

I just checked out the vet listing for NJ on your site
www.adopt.bemikitties.com
And it looks like a) it's in Long beach California,
b) it's listed as a dog vet and c) I don't think the
800 numbers are valid/correct
Could you remove this listing??
Thanks,
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, TenHouseCats wrote:

 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:42:31 -0400
 From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: Looking for 2 Good Vets near Fort Worth, TX.

 don't forget to check the www.adopt.bemikitties.com page for
 special-needs vets--and to list yours if you haven't already!

 MC, the secretary!

 On 9/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Joan that is my neck of the woods.
  There is a low cost vet in arlington a very nice man and his wife. they are
  from Africa and are in the business for the animals not the money
  Sams All Pets
  Dr Siagi
  817-801-7645
  My other vet is real nice and has great hours
  Alamo Pet Clinic
  817-303-7700
  Please tell your friend to contact me if she has anything special
  needsthen I can refer her according to the illness
  see our available orphans at:
  http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
  Karen 817-453-2969


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 Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Samiluke]

Prayers are on the way for Dharma!

Yvonne

Re: OT-traveling w/kitties

[Barb Moermond]

on MC's behalf:or comfy blankies! you may find her under the covers with you, tho!  my pop-up has a marine battery that'll spark the furnace and run the fan   a bit--the furnace is REALLY good, and if you've got that capacity, turn   it on right before bed to heat it up, then it'll retain the heat long   enough for her to get snuggled in.  --   Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!  Maybe That'll Make The Difference  MaryChristine  AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ICQ: 289856892  Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Just have some very big soft towels handy for her to curl up in.If you have
 men who will exclude any of God's creaturesfrom the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men whowill deal likewise with their fellow man.St. Francis- Original Message - From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:10 PMSubject: re: OT-traveling w/kitties That is so neat that your friends have their cats harness/leash trained. I do remember going camping once and a couple had their cat outside on a leash. I wish I could train Katie. I will let her out of the cage some. It is suppose to get pretty cool Friday night and Katie never goes outside at home. This may be a stupid question but do you think she could get sick from the cold weather? Where we are going camping there is no electrical hookups. I don't think there would be a problem with fleas or
 ticks but just to be safe we put Frontline on her last night. Cindy Reasoner --- Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I'm posting this on behalf of MC:) my cats LOVE our pop-up with a passion; if i put if up in the yard one of my persians cries and cries until i take him out there! there's something about all those windows to look out of, i guess i have a screen room for mine, and have it fixed up so that they can't get out around the edges. i had a friend who was temporarily homeless, and she and her five cats lived in it at a campground for 5 months--had a cat tree out in the screen room! i've never kept them caged while in the camper; if you're really worried, tho, consider letting her out at
 night after you've locked the door and aren't planning on going out again. i have other friends who go on extended camping trips every summer, and their three very active cats go with them every time. they, too, seem to kove the experience. again, it's the windows and all the neat things they don't get to see and smell at home. her cats are all harness/leash trained, so they get to wander around the campgrounds with their parents since she doesn't mind travelling, i can't see how there's any question that taking her with you is a much better plan than sticking her at some yucky boarding place! (descriptive terms supplied by my cats) --  Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The
 Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing
 what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous 
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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Barb Moermond]

healing strength and visuals on the wayHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you if you could take a moment to pray for my Dharma, as some of you may know, I found out that Dharma may have dry FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has been treated with feline interferon…. Over the course of weeks, she has good days and not so good days, now she really does not have an appetite much and I have been syringe feeding her.. I talked to jasmine, my AC and she mentioned to me yesterday that.. symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on between the virus and Dharma in her body – the virus seems to be stronger, but Dharma seems to be even stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and but taking a lot of energy from her --- Everyone, please picture my Dharma - she is 5 months old and has a tiny body, has beautiful medium hair, and she is a calico girl – please imagine or picture her protected or covered by white beam of light to her – it’s supposed to help her energy.. if you could imagine my Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not clear and not solid white) lights and protected by the lights,, I will be so grateful if you could do this as often as you can,, or pray in words that she will be protected by angels and protected by these white beam of lights.. I really could use a lot of healing energy. This virus is very mean and stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish and positive energy…
I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharma’s sister) and Peter in August to the same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma.. please help and support Dharma get through this and beat the disease..Sincerely,Hideyo and
 Dharma..Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous 
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[Belinda]

  Thanks Kat I just called both numbers and you're right they are 
bogus, it's been deleted.


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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[cindy reasoner]

I am sending prayers to you and your precious little
Dharma. 

Cindy Reasoner

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you if you could take
 a moment to pray for
 my Dharma, as some of you may know, I found out that
 Dharma may have dry
 FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has been treated
 with feline
 interferon Over the course of weeks, she has
 good days and not so
 good days, now she really does not have an appetite
 much and I have been
 syringe feeding her.. I talked to jasmine, my AC and
 she mentioned to me
 yesterday that.. symbolically, there seems to be a
 big war going on
 between the virus and Dharma in her body - the virus
 seems to be
 stronger, but Dharma seems to be even stronger, and
 right now she is
 winning the battle and but taking a lot of energy
 from her --- 
 
  
 
 Everyone, please  picture my Dharma - she is 5
 months old and has a
 tiny body, has  beautiful medium hair, and she is a
 calico girl - please
 imagine or picture her protected or covered by white
 beam of light to
 her - it's supposed to help her energy.. if you
 could imagine my Dharma
 getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not
 clear and not solid
 white) lights  and protected by the lights,, I will
 be so grateful if
 you could do this as often as you can,, or pray in
 words that she will
 be protected by angels and protected by these white
 beam of lights.. I
 really could use a lot of healing energy.  This
 virus is very mean and
 stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish
 and positive energy...
 
  
 
 I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharma's sister) and Peter
 in August to the
 same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma..
 please help and
 support Dharma get through this and beat the
 disease..
 
  
 
 Sincerely,
 
  
 
 Hideyo and Dharma..
 
 


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Re: timing on FeLV+ test

[Kathi Clark]

Althea, 13
Tabitha, 11
Bear, 5
Oreo, 1
Connie, 1



From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: timing on FeLV+ test
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT)

How old are the other 5?

Kathi Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Are you all saying that if my 
5 kitties have been vaccinated and boostered

for FeLV (July 2006) that Ellie, my FeLV+ kitty, can join them now I
have her separated and planned to keep her separated from the others until 
I

get the results of her IFA on October 13. October 13 will be 120 days from
the first positive IFA; she tested positive on the ELISSA a month before
that. Even if she's still positive after the second IFA, is it okay to
integrate her with the others? I have one kitty who would wrestle and hiss
and spit playfully with her because he already has. Oreo tested positive on
the ELISSA after contact with Ellie but tested negative on his IFA a month
later. I now know that the vet retested him too soon but I'm too scared to
have him retested with another IFA. I couldn't bear to know that my boy, my
favorite, is still infected. I'd rather not know. Right after the negative
IFA, I added Oreo to the bunch. Ellie, on the other hand, is a different
story. I need to know what to do before I integrate her. She's SO very
lonely in a bedroom all by herself. I just would feel like a horrible
mother if any of my others came down with FeLV and it was because of Ellie.
Please tell me what to do. I want the best for everyone -- me, my negs and
my one positive!

Kathi


From: Susan Franklin
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: ,
Subject: Re: timing on FeLV+ test
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:05:43 -0500

Thank you thank you thank you.

My girls go for their second booster on September 26. Gunnar is having
his first IFA test on December 1.

So you think TWO WEEKS after the last booster and Gunnar can join the
family?? That is so wonderful to hear! He's a sweetie and I can't
wait for him to be a part of us - learning the routines, teaching us
stuff he knows and just being a family together.

 From the bottom of my heart, thank you all for your encouraging words,
your knowledge and your love.

P.S. Can anyone tell me how I can change my email address for this
chat site??



  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/16/06 8:02:25 PM 
Once your negative cats are vaccinated, boostered and then wait maybe 2
weeks... I would mix without worrying about dishes and litters
at all.
 t

Susan Franklin wrote:
 You guys, as I've said before, are FANTASTIC. Whenever I get down
about
stuff I read on other Internet sites regarding mixing or throwing off
the virus, I can always count on coming to you and getting an
optimistic, truthful and knowledgeable answer.

Thank you, thank you, thank you I will reschedule Gunnar's
appointment for 120 days from August 3. Instead of re-testing with the
ELISA, I will have the IFA test done. That is correct??

And if, God forbid, the IFA is positive after 120 days, how many more
days would you recommend I wait before I retest again??

And are you guys okay with mixing?? My girls are 16 and almost 8.
Gunnar is 1-1/2 or 2. The girls are in the process of being
vaccinated.
I'm sure they won't be grooming each other, so all I need to do is
keep
the litter box clean and worry about the food/water bowls. I can pick
up breakfast/lunch/dinner dishes immediately after meals, but what's
the
best route to take regarding the water bowl? And I guess I would clean
the litter box in the morning and when I get home each night from work.

Does this sound like a safe plan? Any other suggestions would be
appreciated.

Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your advice and
words of wisdom. You've made a nervous sister to three cats a more
calmer person. Like I told our vet, who said don't count on it when
I told her we were literally praying to throw the virus, I trust and
believe more in what I read on this site than I would the vet's office.

You guys have been there, done that. And you've got love, which is
the strongest feeling of all.

God bless all of you and your kitties!!

Keep the faith.

Susan F.
Chicago, Illinois
sister to Kelly (16 - just had her Sweet 16 on Saturday), Meagan
(7-1/2) and Gunnar (1-1/2-2).




  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/11/06 3:07:48 PM 
retest using the IFA at a minimum of 90 days--i go for 120 days since
most
times it takes between three and four months to clear the virus--so
unless
you are absolutely sure that he couldn't have been in contact with an
infected cat that entire amount, better to wait.

statistically, 70% of those originally tested positive on the ELISA
will
test negative on the IFA--if you do not test too soon. as belinda
says,
even
if an IFA is positive after 90-120 days, it's still not a
definite--the
virus can still clear itself.


On 9/11/06, Nina wrote:
 
  I'm confused about who is asking what here. Who's the person that
is
  using caps to talk with? Anyway, 

Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Ioana-Dina Rican]

I am sorry to hear about Dharma. She has all my prayers.  I understand what you are going through. I found one of my cats, Bolo-she was supposed to be my foster cat but I just kept her not to stress her with adoption process, almost 2 years ago and after three months she felt very sick. After some tests the vet said she has FIP and wanted badly to put her down. Bolo wasn't responding to any treatment, but she was doingtwo things when I was visiting her to the vet--she would mew at my voice andwould lick my hand. So I visited her every day and worked with her until she started to eat on her own. I took her back home and continued the treatment at home and she got better and better, happier and happier and the licking hand or hair stoked with her to the day she died.I lost her on 7/18/06, a day before our wedding anniversary, but it wasn't because of FIP, it was heartworms. I still blame the vet
 for not running a test for this when she was so sick in the hospital. So I have a slightly idea of what FIP means and how much the kitties need all our support and prayers. The day Bolo died Lola came into our lives and she is FeLV positive. I think Bolo brought Lola in our lives and wants us to do everything we can to save her.  All my prayers are with you and Dharma,IoanaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you if you could take a moment to pray for my Dharma, as some of you may know, I found out that Dharma may have dry FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has been treated with feline interferon…. Over the course of weeks, she has good days and not so good days, now she really does not have an appetite much and I have been syringe feeding her.. I talked to jasmine,
 my AC and she mentioned to me yesterday that.. symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on between the virus and Dharma in her body – the virus seems to be stronger, but Dharma seems to be even stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and but taking a lot of energy from her --- Everyone, please picture my Dharma - she is 5 months old and has a tiny body, has beautiful medium hair, and she is a calico girl – please imagine or picture her protected or covered by white beam of light to her – it’s supposed to help her energy.. if you could imagine my Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not clear
 and not solid white) lights and protected by the lights,, I will be so grateful if you could do this as often as you can,, or pray in words that she will be protected by angels and protected by these white beam of lights.. I really could use a lot of healing energy. This virus is very mean and stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish and positive energy…I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharma’s sister) and Peter in August to the same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma.. please help and support Dharma get through this and beat the disease..Sincerely,Hideyo and Dharma.. 
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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Watsdadillyo]

Me and Crackers send Dharma the brightess white lights and sweet vibes that 
there are...may angels surround her at all times and give her the best boost of 
energy then can to ur little girl
love and prayers
kayte and crackers

RE: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Ioana, I am so sorry for your lose of Bolo
 your story made me cry please know that Bolo may be out of his
body, but her soul is still right besides you knowing that how lucky she is to
have known you --- and even brought you a little angel, Lola..



Hugs,



Hideyo











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ioana-Dina Rican
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006
4:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Prayers for my Dharma
-- Please!!!







I am sorry to hear about Dharma. She has all my prayers.





I understand what you are going through. I found one of my cats,
Bolo-she was supposed to be my foster cat but I just kept her not to stress her
with adoption process, almost 2 years ago and after three months she felt very
sick. After some tests the vet said she has FIP and wanted badly to put
her down. Bolo wasn't responding to any treatment, but she was
doingtwo things when I was visiting her to the vet--she would mew at my
voice andwould lick my hand. So I visited her every day and worked
with her until she started to eat on her own. I took her back home and
continued the treatment at home and she got better and better, happier and
happier and the licking hand or hair stoked with her to the day she
died.I lost her on 7/18/06, a day before our wedding anniversary,
but it wasn't because of FIP, it was heartworms. I still blame the vet
for not running a test for this when she was so sick in the hospital. So
I have a slightly idea of what FIP means and how much the kitties need all our support
and prayers. The day Bolo died Lola came into our lives and she is FeLV
positive. I think Bolo brought Lola in our lives and wants us to do
everything we can to save her.





All my prayers are with you and Dharma,











Ioana












Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you if you could take a moment
to pray for my Dharma, as some of you may know, I found out that Dharma may
have dry FIP a couple of weeks ago.. and she has been treated with feline
interferon. Over the course of weeks, she has good days and not so good
days, now she really does not have an appetite much and I have been syringe
feeding her.. I talked to jasmine, my AC and she mentioned to me yesterday
that.. symbolically, there seems to be a big war going on between the virus and
Dharma in her body  the virus seems to be stronger, but Dharma seems to
be even stronger, and right now she is winning the battle and but taking a lot
of energy from her --- 











Everyone, please picture my Dharma - she is 5 months
old and has a tiny body, has beautiful medium hair, and she is a
calico girl  please imagine or picture her protected or covered by white
beam of light to her  its supposed to help her energy.. if you
could imagine my Dharma getting many stream of white (sort of opaque, not clear
and not solid white) lights and protected by the lights,, I will be so
grateful if you could do this as often as you can,, or pray in words that she
will be protected by angels and protected by these white beam of lights.. I
really could use a lot of healing energy. This virus is very mean and
stubborn and I could use all of your healing wish and positive energy











I lost my dearest Naomi (Dharmas sister) and Peter in
August to the same disease.. I just cannot afford to lose Dharma.. please help
and support Dharma get through this and beat the disease..











Sincerely,











Hideyo and Dharma..







  







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RE: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you, kayte and Crackers..you guys
are making me cry..











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006
5:23 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Prayers for my Dharma
-- Please!!!







Me and Crackers send Dharma the brightess
white lights and sweet vibes that there are...may angels surround her at all
times and give her the best boost of energy then can to ur little girl





love and prayers





kayte and crackers

Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Belinda]

 This is exactly why I keep trying to get people to understand
there is NO test that absolutely diagnosis FIP, once a vet
say's it's FIP most people don't question it and and the vet say's
nothing can be done. MANY, many cats diagnosed with FIP die from
something else that was almost always treatable. Most people don't
have a necropsy done and I hate it when they go around saying their cat
died from FIP with NO proof. This disease is worse than FeLV or FIV
put together because it is still so misunderstood and cats are dying
from a mis diagnosis of this all the time.

Off my soap box now :)

I lost her on 7/18/06, a day before our
wedding anniversary,
but it wasn't because of FIP, it was heartworms. I still blame the vet
for not running a test for this when she was so sick in the hospital.

-- 

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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Belinda]

  My sincerest condolences on your loss of Bolo.

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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Belinda]

PS.  Ioana, I wasn't upset with you so please don't take it that way, my 
anger is with your vet for saying the cat had FIP and giving up on her.  
It happens too many times and that is what makes me crazy.


--

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RE: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Diane Rosenfeldt]

Hideyo, I have been picturing Dharma bathed in healing translucent white
beams whenever I have a moment to stop and think.  I'm new at this, but I
hope it helps.
 
Ioana, I'm sorry you lost Bolo so pointlessly to heartworm.  Cherish Lola in
her honor.
 
Diane R.

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Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Ioana-Dina Rican]

It is exactly what blowed our minds; giving us all the crap in the world about her testing positive for corona virus, simpthoms, blah blah blah and that the actual test for FIP is as necropsy. Just my common sense was telling me that when a cat hears your voice from across the hall and then licks your hand the only movements she was making during her stay there it meant for me that she needs me and she wants to get better for me. So I gave her the love in the world to make her eat so I could take her home. I got your other email appologizing; do not worry about a thing. I am pretty rested today, so I didn't take it personal:) But you are right about necropsy; I felt too that I had to know why she died, especially when it was a sudden death. After we left her home in the morning playing and doing her usual, we came home to find her dead in the middle of the floor. It was one of the shocks of my
 life. Unfortunately we had no much time with her to mourn because the vet was closing within an hour, could not keep her dead over the night being too hot, and in the same moment we got out of the house Lola came in our way to feed her. So we took Lola too to be spayed. And here I was after two days, mourning for Bolo and pulling my hair our because Lola's test came positive and again I was fed again crap from the vet. I am telling you, I am not lucky to have good vet, I cannot aford to go around and look for one, Lola doesn't travel not even several feet outside the house without pooping very bad on her, so I don't want to stress her. We tried to find her a one-cat household or somebody with another positive cat, but everything we found was a rescue refugee in Virginia that accepted her. Well, after an email from tonya we took the chance to introduce her to our other two brats. Our situation is a little bit more complicated
 because we are just temporary in US. We are working inobtaining the permanent residency, but if we will be denied I will need to find homes for them. Until then we pray for the best and we'll figure out something when it comes to it.Ioana  Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   This is exactly why I keep trying to get people to understand there is NO test that absolutely diagnosis FIP, once a vet say's it's FIP most people don't question it and and the vet say's nothing can be done. MANY, many cats diagnosed with FIP die from something else that was almost always treatable. Most people don't have a necropsy done and I hate it when they go around saying their cat died from FIP with NO proof. This disease is worse than FeLV or FIV put
 together because it is still so misunderstood and cats are dying from a mis diagnosis of this all the time.Off my soap box now :)  I lost her on 7/18/06, a day before our wedding anniversary, but it wasn't because of FIP, it was heartworms. I still blame the vet for not running a test for this when she was so sick in the hospital.-- Belinda  happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties  http://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens  http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Service  http://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable
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[Belinda]

  Hi Ioana,
  Where are you located, maybe someone on the list knows of a good vet 
in your area??  I sure hope you get your permanent residency, we need 
good people like you here!!


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[Ioana-Dina Rican]

Hi Belinda,we are living in Norcross, Atlanta area, Georgia. I know it's too much to hope for, but could it be possible to be even a vet that does house calls for pets we cannot take to the vet? I know, dream on...:) Apparently I am full of jokes today:), but hey, hoping cannot cost, huh?IoanaBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Ioana,Where are you located, maybe someone on the list knows of a good vet in your area?? I sure hope you get your permanent residency, we need good people like you here!!-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight
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[kelly]

At 08:07 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:
Some do...We have a few in our area that will come out,,cost more
of course. but worth calling around for, 
Kelly
Hi Belinda,

we are living in Norcross, Atlanta area, Georgia. I know it's too
much to hope for, but could it be possible to be even a vet that does
house calls for pets we cannot take to the vet? I know, dream
on...:) Apparently I am full of jokes today:), but hey, hoping
cannot cost, huh?

Ioana
Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Ioana,

Where are you located, maybe someone on the list knows of a good vet


in your area?? I sure hope you get your permanent residency, we need


good people like you here!!

-- 

Belinda

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Re: Beware of people offering to send meds!

[Lernermichelle]

oh, I am sorry I sent that email now, because the meds did arrive right afterwards! And the woman wrote why it took so long, because she has been going through a whole lot of medical crises at her house. So I feel bad I wrote the warning email to the group. It had just been so long that I thought something else was happening.
Michelle

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Michele
I am sooo sorry that person would do that to you. If she did scam you for the $20 then SHAME ON HER!! Some people are so greedy and insensitive...they prey on people that are dealing with a sick person/animal and dupe them. I dont give my Crackers any meds but if I did I would send them also right to you ASAPfor free. Your advice you have kindly given to me and others could never be paid back. I am so sorry.
much love
kayte and crackers
P.S.
If the person who did this to Michele is reading these posts send the girl her money back. That is a disgusting thing to do.

Pete

[Sheila208]

Thanks everyone for the kind wishes and prayers to light Petes way to the bridge. I am still in shock over losing him. He has always been my strong sturdy boy and it seems as if he became weak over night and in a few days he was gone. His best friend Charlie Brown is grieving so and his brother Dooley is not acting like himself. I'm so afraid of losing another so soon. To top it all the little sick Kitty that was abandoned has disappeared and I fear the worst for him. I tried to trap him but he was to smart or to sick for the food bait.
Pete was diagnosed with felv when he was 5 years. He probably was positive before but was never checked. He was so sweet and healthy until the last days. I'll miss him very much.
Sheila in SC

Re: Beware of people offering to send meds!

[Marylyn]

The warning was valid even if circumstances changed. I still don't 
understand the $20. I thought that particular drug was very 
inexpensive. Maybe I have my drugs mixed up. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Beware of people offering to 
  send meds!
  
  
  oh, I am sorry I sent that email now, because the meds did arrive right 
  afterwards! And the woman wrote why it took so long, because she has 
  been going through a whole lot of medical crises at her house. So I feel 
  bad I wrote the warning email to the group. It had just been so long 
  that I thought something else was happening.
  Michelle
  
  In a message dated 9/27/2006 4:31:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Michele
I am sooo sorry that person would do that to you. If she did scam you 
for the $20 then SHAME ON HER!! Some people are so greedy and 
insensitive...they prey on people that are dealing with a sick person/animal 
and dupe them. I dont give my Crackers any meds but if I did I would send 
them also right to you ASAPfor free. Your advice you have 
kindly given to me and others could never be paid back. I am so sorry.
much love
kayte and crackers
P.S.
If the person who did this to Michele is reading these posts send the 
girl her money back. That is a disgusting thing to 
  do.
  

Re: Prayers for my Dharma -- Please!!!

[Sheila208]

I'll be praying for Dharma and for you to stay strong. Sheila