Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Yes, that's right. Michelle In a message dated 1/29/2007 10:13:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They did aspirate fluid, though, right? And it was definitely in the abdomen and NOT in the chest cavity, right? Didn't you say it was clear, and not straw colored

RE: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
It can -- as anything is possible with FIP -- but it can be suggestive if all of other signs are present, and usually the corona virus titer is greater than 1600 -- again,, my naomi's titer was only 1:400 and she had FIP -- but if Lucy's titer is very small or none - the possibility of her having

Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Since it would not be conclusive, and since I am sure she has been exposed to corona virus since I adopted her from a shelter, I don't want to remove the amount of blood necessary to test her, since she is so anemic. In a message dated 1/30/2007 3:49:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL

RE: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Oh no.. I understand - -I wouldn't do it either if I were you.. I just was making comments from diagnostic stand point -How is Lucy tonight? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:52 AM To:

Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
She just laid around all day, very lethargic. When I woke up at 2:30 she was walking around the room looking at food bowls, so I fed her baby food and she ate almost a jar. She then purred a lot when I pet and kissed her for a while, and after I pilled her she washed herself. I just upped

RE: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I know it's scary to see it - but she must not be in pain, just uncomfortable - My first FIP boy, which was about 4 years ago, he actually developed FIP right after I gave him baytrill for some reason.. he stopped eating right after he got pills, and he accumulated fluid in his tummy, he passed

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Sally Davis
You and Mylo know when the time is right. My thoughts are with you. It is a decsion I never want to make but I am glad that I can make it when the time is right. Hugs, Sally Junior Daisy Spike Speedy Ittle Bitty Silver Grey and white Little Black Lily On 1/29/07, Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
I read a summary of the article, but if you have the article in full I would love to read it. Thanks, In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:12:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know it’s scary to see it – but she must not be in pain, just uncomfortable – My first

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Belinda
Being dehydrated is like having a horrible hangover, of course your going to look and feel crappy, not hydrating is only adding to his discomfort. I can't believe the dr didn't insist on it. This little inexpensive thing could really help him be more comfortable. -- Belinda happiness is

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread wendy
Hi Chris, Last year I learned to do subQ fluids after my kitty Julie was diagnosed hyperT, and I've done it on two other of my kitties who got sick since then. It's pretty easy, although I was scared at first to learn, because I didn't want to hurt my furbaby. Julie gets 200cc a week because of

Michelle

2007-01-30 Thread wendy
Hi Michelle, Just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you and Lucy right now. Praying for her improved health, and for your strength. :) Wendy Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Anna
Good morning, how's is everything going for you and Mylo today. They put Toby in the hospital yesterday for blood work,iv fluids and pain meds. Blood work came out fine. They are going to an ultra sound today. Toby was originally being treated for a bladder infection and then he got blocked up

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
GLOW for you and mylo. sometimes doing all that is medically possible is NOT the correct choice for the cat, tho it may be what seems right for us. i always ask the critter--and when they make it clear that they no longer want to be treated, and fight assisted feeding and fluids, i have to

Re: To Jennifer re new kitty with FeLV

2007-01-30 Thread wendy
8 mo's is probably too young to have hyperT; possible but highly improbable. When mine started peeing on things, when I brought a new kitty home, I had to retrain them to use the box. I put them in the bathroom, and that's where they stayed for two weeks with their litter box and food. It

To Kelley Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-30 Thread wendy
Hi Kelley, I use Pet Health Pharmacy in Arizona. https://www.pethealthpharmacy.com/index.html They are great. And it's VERY easy to do refills with them. I order a month's worth of transdermal methimazole for my hyperT kitty, and it's 12.90, plus a flat $4.50 sh. So $17.40 for the month.

Re: Rompi

2007-01-30 Thread wendy
Paolo, How is Rompi doing today? Have you found any further info. on how you will be treating Rompi? :) Wendy Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who

Re: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
that's kind of what i meant--yes, FIP means there's been a corona virus exposure/infection, but it is still possible for an FIP-positive cat to not show a high titre. might not be COMMON, but just as a high titre doesn't prove FIP, a low one doesn't exclude it either. kind of like a negative FeLV

RE: Please pray for Lucy

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I will email it to you.. as it's interesting to read the whole thing.. I am going to receive acemmanan tomorrow - my back orders is coming in - you might want to order for Lucy ... _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Belinda
I agree sometimes you come to a point where you have to consider letting them go but in my opinion and *my opinion only* assist feeding and fluids are in NO way going too far. ANY cat that doesn't feel well for whatever reason can and most likely will stop eating, and dehydration makes a

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
i will do fluids in a heartbeat for a cat--until they make it clear that they no longer want it. i remember being really upset with a kitty who just would not let me administer fluids, because i KNEW it would make her feel better--she was clearly terminal (at 22!), and it was the holistic vet who

Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Jennifer Madon
I just called to check on Midnight and they said he is waking up right now from the neuter. He did great. They checked his urine and the receptionist said she thought there were white blood cells in the urine. I gave the vet permission to do a blood test to check is liver. Any thoughts on

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Belinda
PS. Fred told an AC he wasn't thrilled with the fluids, he didn't understand the reason for it. He said he'd rather not get them but I asked her to explain to him that they would help his kidney's function better and keep him feeling good for some time. His values have improved quite a bit

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Belinda
I used to think this too but since I've heard from many AC's that animals don't fear the pain sometimes associated with dying in some instances and many actually prefer to go through the whole cycle I am really more of the thinking of letting them complete the cycle without my intervention.

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
i think, too, that i'm talking more about cats who accept treatment quite well for a long time, and then suddenly say, enough. i am a huge believer in giving fluids, and will do so often at the first sign of punkiness in a cat, and have seen them work wonders--often one application of subq fluids

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
this is a hard one, because actually, i haven't used veterinary intervention with any of my kids in many years. i HAVE with sanctuary animals who were seizing, or clearly in great pain, and i wouldn't hesitate to do so if one of mine were in that situation. but i agree that letting them go

Re: ot: transdermal benedryl gel for allergies

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
: looking at the persians and thinking, yeah, no hair, right On 1/29/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes...like Michelle said - it is compounded to be absorbed through the skin...the ear is rich in blood vessels and doesn't have the hair so it's the perfect place to

Re: ot: transdermal benedryl gel for allergies

2007-01-30 Thread elizabeth trent
now that would be a problem! On 1/30/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : looking at the persians and thinking, yeah, no hair, right On 1/29/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes...like Michelle said - it is compounded to be absorbed through the skin...the

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Belinda
Agree with this, I talked with Buddie the day before her surgery and told her if she was ready to go I would be OK, I would miss her physical self but if shwas ready to go home then she should. She survived the surgery but went into cardiac arrest after in recovery. It was her choice ad she

Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread wendy
White blood cells in the urine usually indicate bacteria is present, thus a UTI. Curing this will most likely help with the peeing everywhere. Make sure they give you antibiotics to cure the UTI if the vet says that's what it is. :) Wendy --- Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just

taking Lucy to get fluid drained

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
I am taking her in half an hour. I am really nervous about it. The vet agreed to do the shot of 1/2 cc dexamethasone into the abdominal cavity after draining, which apparently sometimes helps slow the refill time. I think she is even more anemic than on sat when her pcv was 15-- the parts

Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Jennifer Madon
WOO HOO because he peed on my husband in bed this morning. I thought he was going to kick me and Midnight out of the house! Instead he said, take your cat and get out of bed! He is a grump in the middle of the night. Then again, cat pee isn't pleasant to wake up to! wendy wrote: White

RE: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
LOL!! Oh honey, GANDHI would have tossed the two of you out of bed under the same circumstances...not that Gandhi would have found himself in the same circumstances... Here's hoping that the UTI clears up before your domestic bliss is totally shattered! Diane R.

RE: taking Lucy to get fluid drained

2007-01-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Here are vibes that the draining does her some good, and that you can still find a way to save her. My heart goes out to you. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:05 PM To:

RE: taking Lucy to get fluid drained

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Michelle - are you going to order acemmanan? I am sorry that Lucy's getting more pale - I know exactly what you are going through as it has been my daily routine to check the color of gums of my babies for a while now. Michelle - please don't be fearful - I know it's hard, but try not -

RE: taking Lucy to get fluid drained

2007-01-30 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
You and Lucy are both in my prayers, Michelle. As with all of us on the list, breaks my heart to see you go through this. Please don't give up hope--I know it's hard, but while your little trooper Lucy still fights this illness, I would think she needs to know you're right there fighting with her

Re: To Kelley Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-30 Thread Kelley Saveika
Thanks...yes, People's here in Austin was like $50 for flagyl compounded into liquid..and they close at 6 pm too! Ciara says It still tasted nasty, even with triple fish flavor. Ew! On 1/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. For the same meds here in Dallas, where I live, it costs

Re: Yahoo groups

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why don't you just get a NEW yahoogroups account? It sure would be a LOT easier! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree with Belinda... I REGRET not trying all of that for Moogie (I wasn't here on the list long enough to learn enough before I opted to have Moogie euthanised). I don't want anyone else to have second guesses years down the road. I'm just thankful that I've stuck around here and learned about

Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Probably a mind urinary tract infection... but they should probably send him home with antibiotics from his neuter anyways, so that will take care of both things! Do insist on the antibiotics... for a FELV+ cat, you really can't be too safe. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+

Re: Rompi

2007-01-30 Thread Paolo
Wendy, thank you for asking. Rompi's surgery has been scheduled for thursday morning. Today's RX showed nothing abnormal, apart that evil thing with the diameter of a golf ball. Rompi has no symptoms, eats like a lion, evacuates like a lion, is FIV-/FeLV- and the vet says that his blood test

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, animals don't FEAR the pain of dying (and don't fear dying, for that matter), because they live in the moment, so they are only fearful when actually in the process of being scared (and they don't have a belief system that registers the end of life or moving to another cycle like we do, so

Re: taking Lucy to get fluid drained

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hope Lucy feels better after the fluid is drained, and improves! Keeping fingers crossed for her! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates

Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Well, Lucy screamed while they were feeling around her belly trying to find the place to put the needle in, but while they drained she just laid in my arms and purred. The fluid, which I was told was clear and thin on January 16 and 17 when samples were taken, looked pale yellow to me and

Re: Rompi

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can subscribe to yahoogroups if you want to, you just refuse to do it. GET A NEW ACCOUNT SET UP. https://edit.yahoo.com/config/eval_register?.intl=usnew=1.src=ygrp.v=0.done=http%3a//groups.yahoo.com Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special

Re: Yahoo groups

2007-01-30 Thread Sally Davis
I was thinking the same thing Sally Davis On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you just get a NEW yahoogroups account? It sure would be a LOT easier! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and

Re: Rompi

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Paolo, On your email provider, can you select a second screen name? I can, on aol, if I want. If you can, you could basically create a different email address (different screen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) provider). and then you should not have trouble setting up a

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
None of the websites say... even Dr. Addie's says all FIP cats are euthanized. I suppose it will get to a point where she will be suffering so bad you'll have to euthanise her? It appears that is the case with every other FIP+ cat in existence. Surely there have been research cats that they have

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
i know a lot of FIP cats, with the wet form, that have been allowed to die naturally at home, so i guess i'm missing the point here On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of the websites say... even Dr. Addie's says all FIP cats are euthanized. I suppose it will get

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Susan Loesch
As I understand it, with wet FIP unless fluid is continually drained it will begin to accumulate in the abdominal cavity and begin to squeeze out the lungs so that breathing becomes harder and harder -- and the cat essentially suffocates. I think that is why all wet FIP kitties are

Re: Rompi

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He doesn't NEED to do that! I don't understand WHY it has to be so complicated! Click here: http://login.yahoo.com/config/login?logout=1.partner=.intl=us.done=http%3a%2f%2fmy.yahoo.com%2findex.html.src=my Ok, that will log you out if you are logged into yahoo.com Then, click here:

Lucy visualization

2007-01-30 Thread Leslie
Hello Michelle, So I just checked out some of The Secret movie. I have to say that I am not very New Age. I like dirt and rocks and things that my hands can touch and pick up. I am going to school again getting my science classes - chemistry, biology, physics, etc. - dirt and rocks stuff, and

Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Barb Moermond
we can't forget that when they're showing symptoms of a UTI and they pull urine for analysis, that a gram ID and sensitivity test has to be done in order to identify the buggy that is the culprit so they can give the correct abx. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown:

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
With dry fip, it is organ failure and/or anemia. My Buddy died naturally from what probably was dry fip. His pcv was 6 the last time it was measured, a couple of days before. The vet said he should not have been able to stand. But he was on the dex/depo combo shots, and he was literally

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
yes, you are probably right. It is possible to keep draining it, but how many times do you do that? as long as they are still eating? I don't know. But you probably are right. Michelle In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:27:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Do you know what actually killed them in the end? was it not eating, or breathing difficulty, or anemia, or something else? I am just trying to prepare myself. thanks, Michelle In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:16:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i know a lot of

Re: cat BM in inappropriate locations

2007-01-30 Thread Barb Moermond
Rubbermaid also makes high sided boxes with an entryway in one of the short sides. The ones I have have 11 sides (on the 3 sides) and I've seen Bandit actually standing up and tinkling against the side, so it's definitely high enough - and he can be a vigorous digger too. I got them at

RE: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Actually, with all of my 6 kitties who died of FIP, they all passed away naturally except one, Olive who developed severe neurological symptoms and had seizures every 15 mins.. Peter died from the liver problem and died very quickly... Naomi died very peacefully.. Rikki died from ARF, Dharma died

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Hideyo, all of yours had dry fip, though, right? Or did one have wet fip? In a message dated 1/30/2007 4:51:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, with all of my 6 kitties who died of FIP, they all passed away naturally except one, Olive who developed severe

RE: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Michelle - I am crying as I read this email as I know how much you want Lucy to get better and so do I ---I wish I had this power to cure all the sick babies in the world to make a miracle happen.. Michelle - don't think about euthanizing her right now.. she is eating.. and she does not seem to be

RE: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
One FIP I had was Henry - -about 4 years ago and he was only 6 months old.. he died very peacefully, he stopped breathing in his sleep almost... I think that the cause was liver.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January

RE: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Sally Forrester who used to be on this list lost many kitties to wet FIP - do you want to contact her? I also have another friend, karen whom I met on FIP list lost many cats to wet and dry - let me know if you want to contact her.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Hideyo, I am not going to do anything to her right now. I hardly ever euthanize at all, much less while someone is eating. Most of my animals have died at home on their own. I just do not want her to suffer too much in the end, which is why I asked the vet. I think my cat Buddy went

RE: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Yes, I will send you another vial if you need me to, you just let me know, Michelle - In addition to Mr. Ishida's studies, I also read about one case study of Pancho (?) who had FIP and FIV - and he was in a very bad shape, and he recovered completely for about 1.5 year with interferon and due to

Re: Lucy visualization

2007-01-30 Thread Nina
Oh Leslie thank you! (I gotta tell you lady, I'm crazy about you). Your post encouraging Michelle to visualize Lucy happy and healthy was just perfect. Michelle, you haven't responded to any of this, I don't know if you're too wrapped up in the fear, the research, (the dirt and rock

Re: midnight

2007-01-30 Thread Jennifer Madon
Well I am at work and Midnight is with me. They said that he may have a uti and gave me anti-biotics. The dr was concerned enough to run a blood panel. He said that I need to bring him back in 1 week for another urinalysis to make sure that is was a uti and not the beginning of kidney

Re: cat BM in inappropriate locations

2007-01-30 Thread lynette
Rubbermaid also makes high sided boxes with an entryway in one of the short= sides. The ones I have have 11 sides (on the 3 sides) and I've seen Band= it actually standing up and tinkling against the side, so it's definitely h= Yeah, we actually use file storage bins purchased at an office

RE: Lucy visualization

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
If you guys remember, when Belinda on the list lost Bailey-she sent us a photo of the sky with the cloud, just mimicking Bailey's face - now that's a connection that goes beyond what we can explain.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: Lucy update

2007-01-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
There was not a single cat whom I lost to FIP that I did not have to syringe feed them towards the end as anorexia is a common symptoms of FIP - most of my cats stopped eating though they may not act that ill.. they don't feel well due to the liver damage and feel nauseated so they don't want to

fever question

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Lucy has mostly, I think, not had bad fevers since starting on 10 mg/day of pred plus clindamycin Saturday before last. Occasionally she has felt warm, though, like she does now, and I think has a low grade fever. When at the vet on Sat she felt warm like this and her temp was 104.1. She

Re: fever question

2007-01-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Actually, she now feels hot, not warm. I have two ice packs against her and she actually climbed on top of a third on her own. If it is not down in 15 minutes I will give her fluids. What I don't understand is why she got another high fever all of a sudden, after so long. She got more

Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-30 Thread Kerry Roach
I just had Inky's metronidazole (flagyl) refilled at Road Runner Pharmacy in Phoenix. It was $34.95 which included 2nd day air shipping.UPS.. I got 60cc chicken flavor..dosage is 100mg/ml. He gets .3cc daily.. Thought you guys might want to check this out.. Also, I am 90 miles from Dallas

Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
the subject line of this thread just hit me. my doctor wants me to take two calicos, and call him in the morning. can you fill that scrip? -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-30 Thread Anna
too funnywe need some laughter here. the subject line of this thread just hit me. my doctor wants me to take two calicos, and call him in the morning. can you fill that scrip?

Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-30 Thread TenHouseCats
purebred, or will generic do? On 1/30/07, Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: too funnywe need some laughter here. the subject line of this thread just hit me. my doctor wants me to take two calicos, and call him in the morning. can you fill that scrip? -- Spay Neuter

Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line

2007-01-30 Thread Anna
generic is fine.thank you Junior. (that is my pharmacist) - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Getting cat prescriptions filled on line purebred, or will generic

Re: fever question

2007-01-30 Thread elizabeth trent
Michelle, I am so sorry for all you and Lucy are going through. I've been keeping up with the discussion but haven't responded since I don't feel I have anything to add. What I don't understand is how steroids would make her less likely to have fever. Corticosteroids make the body *less* able

Re: fever question

2007-01-30 Thread Kelly L
At 07:11 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote: Steroids are anti inflammatories, the fever is called by inflammation ,,hence the steroids reduce fevers, swelling and inflammation. Kelly Michelle, I am so sorry for all you and Lucy are going through. I've been keeping up with the discussion but

Re: fever question

2007-01-30 Thread elizabeth trent
Respectfully, I am not convinced that all fever is caused by inflammation. Some of the worst fevers I've had were while on major doses of corticosteroids. elizabeth On 1/30/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:11 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote: Steroids are anti inflammatories, the fever is

Re: fever question

2007-01-30 Thread Kelly L
At 07:32 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote: guess i gave too simple of an answer, the body reacts to a variety of assaults, Inflammation is one method as is fever..it is an immune response to anything from pollen, insect bites, bacteria etc,,,Steroids suppress the immune system, It is a complicated

Re: Lucy visualization

2007-01-30 Thread Belinda
Yes and whenever I would show that photo to anyone while Bailey was still here, I would tell them thats the face of an angel! I know he picked that way and that photo to let me know he was OK because it is one of my favorites and I couldn't miss it as a sign.

Re: fever question

2007-01-30 Thread elizabeth trent
I have severe asthma so I feel like I know a little bit about steroids. Steroids can reduce inflammation while not fighting fever- and at the same time leaving the body unable to properly fight off infection -- that was really my point in this. Long term steroid use can have devastating effects

Re: fever question

2007-01-30 Thread elizabeth trent
let me clarify also -- i'm not saying that steroids are not important...just that they don't reduce fever. i think what prompted me to say that was Michelle saying that Lucy's fever was up and that she didn't think it should be in light of the steroids...i was just questioning that because i

Re: over the one month hump! Congrats Elizabeth!

2007-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just wanted to give you some kudos! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html

Re: over the one month hump! Congrats Elizabeth!

2007-01-30 Thread elizabeth trent
High Five! That encouragement goes a long way, Phaewryn...I really appreciate it. I know you know first hand it's not for wimps ;-) Thanks! The kids are very glad to be smoke-free. They absolutely loved stealing my cigs and batting them under the frige. Phelix refused to have

Re: Chris and Mylo

2007-01-30 Thread Gina WN
Love and peace to you and Mylo. When my Buddy was terminal from cancer, the vet recommended I learn how to do sub-q fluids, so I could take him home and make him comfortable. He said that I would know when it was time to let him go, or even possibly he would leave me of his own accord