[Felvtalk] 2008 WSAVA Congress Paper on Retroviral Diseases
The 2008 WSAVA has posted their papers on line. Here is the link to the one on managing FIV/FeLV. You will have to cut and paste the link http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2008&PID=23983&Category=3868&O=Generic Sharyl --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ vet input re Revolution To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:47 PM My primary concern is heartworms. I use strongid or panacur (both otc) for regular worms, and tapeworm tablets (now otc as welL) for tapeworms. I can say that I have never had any earmites since starting to use Revolution,w hich is at least 3 years ago. Since my cats don't go outside fleas are not a huge issue for me. I do have capstar as well. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Revolution also claims to kill fleas. It is not the best for ear mites > since > they have a 3 week cycle and if you do repeat the Revolution, it's repeated > at 4 weeks. Here is an exchange I had with a vet regarding Revolution: > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first > as long as you leave me alone". > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ vet input re Revolution
My primary concern is heartworms. I use strongid or panacur (both otc) for regular worms, and tapeworm tablets (now otc as welL) for tapeworms. I can say that I have never had any earmites since starting to use Revolution,w hich is at least 3 years ago. Since my cats don't go outside fleas are not a huge issue for me. I do have capstar as well. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Revolution also claims to kill fleas. It is not the best for ear mites > since > they have a 3 week cycle and if you do repeat the Revolution, it's repeated > at 4 weeks. Here is an exchange I had with a vet regarding Revolution: > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first > as long as you leave me alone". > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ vet input re Revolution
Revolution also claims to kill fleas. It is not the best for ear mites since
they have a 3 week cycle and if you do repeat the Revolution, it's repeated
at 4 weeks. Here is an exchange I had with a vet regarding Revolution:
(VET)Well - I would probably just address each problem separately - use an
oral dewormer for the worms and an ear mite medicine that is put directly in
the ear. That vet probably carries a product called accarex which is a
one-dose ear mite medicine. That is what I would prefer to do anyway. :)
- Original Message -
From: Laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Zoe thanks you
What would you recommend instead, please. I would prefer not to overkill.
Thanks!
Laurie
From: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:30 AM
To: Laurieskatz
Subject: Re: Zoe thanks you
Hi Laurie. I am happy to hear that Zoe recovered alright. About Revolution -
it is an ok product if you have a cat that truly needs treatment all of the
things that Revolution covers. I am not crazy about it and don't use it on
my cats - it covers everything but doesn't seem to really cover anything all
that well (and it is expensive). I have had a large number of clients
complain that they were not impressed by its ability to control fleas. When
it first became available 5 years ago or so - the clinic that I was working
at did an experiment to see how truly efficacious it was against internal
parasites ("worms") - we were not impressed and after that little in-house
experiment did not rely on it for that purpose. It is probably better
suited as a preventative tool than a curative tool for established problems.
If you just have ear mite issues and deworming needs - I guess Revolution
wouldn't be my first choice of treatment.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
It is Revolution that claims to kill roundworms and hookworms (and ear
mites, and protects against heartworms). Tapeworms you need a different
dewormer for.
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wellness is cat food.
>
> Check out www.catinfo.org for info about canned wellness.
> It's sold by Mother Hubbard ~ you can buy at retailers or order online.
> I recommend chicken or turkey canned. Best to avoid fish and any with
> grains.
>
> Parasites that live in the intestine will not be killed by Frontline flea
> treatment.
>
> L
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:24 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
>
> What is wellness. It's sounds a little familiar.
>
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http://www.rescuties.org
Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
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Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9
http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
Please help with some of our kitties medical needs!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses
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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
It is Revolution that claims to kill roundworms and hookworms (and ear mites, and protects against heartworms). Tapeworms you need a different dewormer for. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wellness is cat food. > > Check out www.catinfo.org for info about canned wellness. > It's sold by Mother Hubbard ~ you can buy at retailers or order online. > I recommend chicken or turkey canned. Best to avoid fish and any with > grains. > > Parasites that live in the intestine will not be killed by Frontline flea > treatment. > > L > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:24 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > > What is wellness. It's sounds a little familiar. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Wellness is cat food. Check out www.catinfo.org for info about canned wellness. It's sold by Mother Hubbard ~ you can buy at retailers or order online. I recommend chicken or turkey canned. Best to avoid fish and any with grains. Parasites that live in the intestine will not be killed by Frontline flea treatment. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi What is wellness. It's sounds a little familiar. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi
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[Felvtalk] Kiwi
Have not noticed flees or him scratching. He is kept inside and he gets some topical treatment so he does not get fleas. One of my daughters does that. It's a well known. Just can't think of the name. Thanks! Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
www.catinfo.org has info about Wellness and other good foods. Grain free is what she recommends (she's a vet). She likes canned for cats better than dry. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi My friend is using the dry only - his 2 cats won't eat the wet. But one cat had hair coming out- little spots - and after switching to Wellness dry, those have gone away - lovely silky fur. THey don't like it as well, but eat it more slowly. His 20 pound fat cat is losing weight, and we're delighted. Gloria At 11:24 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, >I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. >I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted >to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a >couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled >or anything! > >Christiane Biagi >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane >Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > >I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - > >Gloria > >At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: > >One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had > >diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on > >Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. > >Laura > > > > > >--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM > > > Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of > > > Revolution > > > on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal > > > parasites. I > > > also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a > > > little bit > > > (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic > > > anti-diarrhea > > > tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food > > > store and use > > > it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin > > > for diarrhea > > > too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. > > > > > > Best of luck, > > > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a > > > little worried > > > > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that > > > he might have > > > > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time > > > just to see > > > > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he > > > was fixed. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
My friend is using the dry only - his 2 cats won't eat the wet. But one cat had hair coming out- little spots - and after switching to Wellness dry, those have gone away - lovely silky fur. THey don't like it as well, but eat it more slowly. His 20 pound fat cat is losing weight, and we're delighted. Gloria At 11:24 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, >I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. >I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted >to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a >couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled >or anything! > >Christiane Biagi >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane >Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > >I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - > >Gloria > >At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: > >One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had > >diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on > >Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. > >Laura > > > > > >--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM > > > Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of > > > Revolution > > > on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal > > > parasites. I > > > also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a > > > little bit > > > (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic > > > anti-diarrhea > > > tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food > > > store and use > > > it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin > > > for diarrhea > > > too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. > > > > > > Best of luck, > > > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a > > > little worried > > > > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that > > > he might have > > > > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time > > > just to see > > > > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he > > > was fixed. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
My friend is using the dry only - his 2 cats won't eat the wet. But one cat had hair coming out- little spots - and after switching to Wellness dry, those have gone away - lovely silky fur. THey don't like it as well, but eat it more slowly. His 20 pound fat cat is losing weight, and we're delighted. Gloria At 11:24 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, >I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. >I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted >to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a >couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled >or anything! > >Christiane Biagi >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane >Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > >I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - > >Gloria > >At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: > >One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had > >diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on > >Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. > >Laura > > > > > >--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM > > > Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of > > > Revolution > > > on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal > > > parasites. I > > > also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a > > > little bit > > > (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic > > > anti-diarrhea > > > tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food > > > store and use > > > it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin > > > for diarrhea > > > too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. > > > > > > Best of luck, > > > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a > > > little worried > > > > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that > > > he might have > > > > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time > > > just to see > > > > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he > > > was fixed. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled or anything! Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had >diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on >Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. >Laura > > >--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM > > Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of > > Revolution > > on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal > > parasites. I > > also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a > > little bit > > (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic > > anti-diarrhea > > tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food > > store and use > > it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin > > for diarrhea > > too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a > > little worried > > > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that > > he might have > > > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time > > just to see > > > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he > > was fixed. > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had >diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on >Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. >Laura > > >--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM > > Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of > > Revolution > > on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal > > parasites. I > > also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a > > little bit > > (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic > > anti-diarrhea > > tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food > > store and use > > it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin > > for diarrhea > > too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a > > little worried > > > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that > > he might have > > > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time > > just to see > > > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he > > was fixed. > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had >diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on >Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. >Laura > > >--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM > > Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of > > Revolution > > on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal > > parasites. I > > also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a > > little bit > > (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic > > anti-diarrhea > > tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food > > store and use > > it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin > > for diarrhea > > too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a > > little worried > > > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that > > he might have > > > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time > > just to see > > > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he > > was fixed. > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM > Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of > Revolution > on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal > parasites. I > also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a > little bit > (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic > anti-diarrhea > tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food > store and use > it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin > for diarrhea > too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. > > Best of luck, > > Gloria > > > > On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a > little worried > > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that > he might have > > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time > just to see > > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he > was fixed. > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Good for you for taking care of Kiwi--he sounds like a spunky little guy. Whatever you do for him is more than most would have done and we all just try to do the best we can depending on our circumstances. I have 2 FELV + and one, Romeo, absolutely freaks out if I have to take him to vet. I've only done a few trips with him because of that--it would be good if I could get him there more regularly but the stress to him is not worth it. He's an older guy and I know with him, I have to watch his teeth/gums as he's prone to infections. My other FELV+, Tucson, is more mellow about going to vet but still finds it pretty stressful. I know with her, if she turns her nose up at food, something's going on and I need to check her white blood count. I made a decision based on their personalities, etc. that the very best I could do for both of them was to give them some decent food, keep them safe at home, etc. I know them well enough to sense when something is up. You shouldn't have to bring Kiwi for regular blood tests and I don't bring mine in for "yearly" checkups. Save vet trips for when you know something's really not right... If vet prescribes meds, have him give u a prescription and consider buying online or even at regular drug store--oftentimes, meds are cheaper that way. Maybe for the diahrea, start by bringing stool sample for testing to vet first. Its cheaper and this way if you do have to bring Kiwi in, he'll have some ideas about what is or is not going on. In the meantime, get him to eat anything that he'll keep down and make sure he has plenty of fluids--water, water from tuna can, moist "people" food like chicken, etc. Try not to change the food he eats too often--if you have to, mix the old food w. the new as change of food can also cause diahrea. Look around for some really good food for him--doesn't have to be the most expensive food but watch for fillers that don't have any nutritional value. If he eats chicken fine, then maybe supplement dry food with cooked chicken--and it doesn't have to be chicken breast--my guys LOVE the dark meet I peel off chicken legs, etc. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried > because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have > some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see > where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ urgency imo
Diarrhea is a serious problem. It can result in death. It can be from something as simple as parasites and as serious as intestinal cancer. Can be from food allergies or IBD. More info here: http://www.our-happy-cat.com/cat-diarrhea.html http://cats.suite101.com/article.cfm/diarrhea_in_cats Most vets prescribe metronidazole (flagyl) which is not expensive. I am not a fan of it but it's usually the first thing my vets prescribe. Food trials can get to the bottom of a food allergy (no test for food allergy). Untreated diarrhea can lead to break down of the follicles in intestine that do the work of moving the bowels and the cat will never have normal stools. This happened to one of my cats ~ that is why I urge you to get him to a vet. Maybe friends or family would help? Even if you could get a few people to donate five or 10 dollars, that would help. I doubt it will be more than a vet visit and meds. Some vets take credit cards. In the meantime please give the unflavored pedialtye. I am sure you know that cats can go into liver failure if they go more than 48 hours without proper nutrition. RE the eyes, if you give the wrong remedy, it can make things worse. I would never treat an eye without vet supervision. Please find a way to get him to the vet. These are both serious issues if left untreated. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Not being able to take him to the vet makes it tough. Canned pumpkin (not pie filling) has helped many kitties. So has slippery elm bark which can be found in most health food stores or on line. Also giving a probiotic could help. Since Kiwi won't eat canned food it might be hard to give him the pumpkin. Diarrhea can lead to dehydration which will cause another laundry list of problems. Food allergies and IBD both cause these symptoms. A cat can develop a food allergy even if they have been eating a food for a period of time. The eyes are another issue. He may need terramycin salve to clear up the eye. Supplementing with L-Lysine couldn't hurt. Sharyl --- On Sat, 8/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 9:44 PM My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi
Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
