Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Re: Spanky has large cell lymphoma
Stacy, Here is a link to some calorie info on canned foods. http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html Usually kitten canned foods are higher in calories. I blend a jar of meat baby food with the pate style canned I am going to syringe feed instead of using water to dilute the food. Wellness is usually one of the higher calorie foods. Sharyl --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Subject: Re: Spanky has large cell lymphoma To: FELVTalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 6:01 PM Hi Sharyl - thank you for your reply. Excellent point on the nutrition. I actually supplement his food with assist feeding meat only baby food (beechnut) and I have an issue with him being super picky about canned foods. He will only seem to eat one flavor of Wellness! I often put the flavors he doesn't like in my food processor and blend it down so I can syringe some to him in addition to what he's eating. I will look at some kitten food for him too. Do you know offhand of some higher calorie canned foods I could look at getting him? I will check out the assist feeding group. Thanks so much Stacy Message: 7 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 14:30:02 -0800 (PST) From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: 958945.16656...@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Stacy, you've gotten lots of advise on treating the lymphoma. I just wanted to add the importance of feeding Spanky. Cancer cells consume a lot of calories. Spanky will need 1 1/2 to 2 times his normal calories to help him fight the cancer. You may need to increase the amount you assist feed him to get the calories into him. You can use higher calories canned foods, add meat baby food (no onions or garlic) to his canned foods, try some high calorie kitten foods, etc. to increase the calories per oz of food. There is a Yahoo Assist Feeding group that may be of help. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ You both are in our thoughts and prayers Sharyl --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Spanky has large cell lymphoma To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 11:31 AM Hi everyone: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Spanky has large cell lymphoma
After a bit of searching, I found the actual protocol where I had written it on the Lymphoma group on Yahoo. CVT X I've searched again and haven't found the link where I originally found the protocol. My Japanese vet gave me a sheet written in Japanese. However, each time he did a treatment, he gave me the paper that came with the medicine so that I would know which medicine he used. Someone said it sounded like a modified UWM. I hope whatever you try works for you. Melinda and Fuji On 04 Dec, 2010,at 08:06 AM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Melinda, I appreciate your feedback. Yes, I feel like what have I got to lose at this point...(besides my $ which doesn't mean anything compared to him). I am very lucky to live near the ER vet clinic which has specialists and the oncologist just started last week replacing one who moved awayso she spent 1.5+ hours with us discussing options today and getting to know Spanky and his history. Which chemo protocol is Fuji on? Are you on the lymphoma list also? Several people use the AC-11 by Solgar for the kitties to increase the WBC. I bought some and my vet wanted to see some info on it. Let me know if you want more info. Good luck to you and Fuji also.Sending healing waves to you!!! Thanks again Stacy and Spanky Message: 8 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 09:16:00 +0900 From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky has large cell lymphoma Message-ID: 36a7ada8-c5c3-4cff-a860-41bca4e40...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Stacy, I am sorry to hear your outcome. Since I am currently going through the same thing I can understand all of your concerns. It looks like his WBC count is OK, my vet would definitely do a treatment with it that high! You have the added benefit of having an oncologist at your disposal. If she recommends a chemo protocol, I would definitely give it a try. As someone else said, you really don't have anything to lose. Through all of my research, I have found that because the chemo is such a low dose, it causes very few immediate side affects. At best, you will shrink the tumor and prolong his life, making him more comfortable in the process. At worst, it won't work and he will continue as is causing you to possibly have to make a decision about letting him go. As someone who has had a positive experience, I highly encourage the chemo. Only you and Spanky can decide what is best for him. I've heard many people say that he will let you know when he is ready to move on. As for myself and my Fuji cat, I believe I may be learning as well. She was due to go in today to have her blood tested, which the vet does by starting an IV (she doesn't much care for it.) If her WBC count is high enough she would get another treatment. Historically, over the last 2 months that count has been very low. Right now she is eating, playing, purring and last night even slept with my husband and I (she only does that when she feels good!) I have decided to wait until next week to take her in. It will give her a longer recovery period, increasing her chances of having another treatment. Otherwise, she would go through the test for nothing and have to return in 10 days for another test. In the past, I've rushed to get her in hoping for the best and being disappointed when she couldn't be treated. I think she will be happier this way. I wish you the best of luck. Melinda, Fuji and baby VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Re: Spanky - fluid in chest - mediastinal tumor in chest
Stacy, I am not certain of the exact protocol. At one time I had it, but have long since lost it. I am in Japan and the American base vet cannot obtain the cancer medications. My Japanese vet has been very attentive and so far everything he has done has been successful. In the beginning he made me wait 10-14 days between treatments in order to allow her body to recover from the strong medicine. He does seem surprised that she recovered so quickly the first time and I am sure will be amazed once again when he sees the results of his second round. Unfortunately, I don't know what he used this last time. She received the following five treatments. All extremely strong drugs! Oncovin- 1st treatment Cyclophosphamide- 2nd treatment Doxorubicin- 3rd treatment Oncovin- 4th treatment Doxorubicin- 5th treatment All of this with 10mg of Prednisone per day. (We have since cut the Prednisone down to 5mg per day. ) I envy your access to an oncologist. Whatever is recommended, I'm sure will be your best bet! Thanks for the good wishes. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Hi Melinda: I am sorry about Fuji's mass but so happy she responded to chemo. What chemo did you give her? I recently joined the lymphoma list and for Spanky's type of mass (that has yet to be confirmed by biopsy) many have success with prednisoline and leukeran and some are using ac-11 to boost the white blood cells. I have a call into his oncologist/internal med specialist to see what she thinks about putting him on the leukeran. He is doing well on the pred - eating better and even ran up the stairs today which he hasn't done in many weeks. Purraying your Fuji continues to do well and thank you for sharing her story and success. Stacy and Spanky Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:11:24 +0900 From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: 255f926b-47f4-4aab-94ce-0148adf35...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stacy, My kitty Fuji is almost 18 months old. In July, she was diagnosed with FeLV and a mediastinal mass. Very little effort was spent diagnosing her, but the final conclusion was lymphoma because of the presence of FeLV. At that time, all I wanted was to make her more comfortable. She responded immediately to the chemotherapy treatment that she received. She continued to receive 4 more treatments at 10+ day intervals over the next couple of months. During that time she showed absolutely no side affects. The treatments were discontinued because her WBC count was too low (because of the FeLV) for our Japanese vet to feel he could safely do them considering the mass was completely gone. Since her last treatment in September, she has had two rounds of antibiotics for minor infections (I took her in for sneezing the first time.) Last week, I took her in with vomiting and discovered the mass had returned. Second remissions are supposed to be extremely hard to obtain. However, Fuji responded immediately once again to the treatment. A week later, she eats, plays, purrs and does everything she did before. She definitely acts like a more mature cat, but of course she is. We will follow up next week with additional blood tests to see if she can get a second treatment. I know every cat is different, but I never expected to have 4+ more months with my baby. She is still alive and doing pretty good for an FeLV cat with lymphoma! Best of luck to you and Spanky. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Hi Sharyl: Thanks to you and everyone on this list for your replies and purrayers. . I'm so sorry about your sweet Albert but glad you had the 1.5 years with him. It's been quite a week for us - Spanky went to his vet, then the internal med specialist/oncologist and was diagnosed with a mediastinal tumor in his chest, thus the fluids. My vets too said a few days only if I didn't do something. So I put him on prednisolone for now and may do a stronger round of something to try to kill the tumor. But I know it is dicey with his FELV + status/symptoms. I can't even think straight...but have to try to keep helping him. He made it through Thanksgiving and we are taking it one day (one hour!) at a time. Purrs, Stacy and Spanky Message: 8 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky - fluid in chest Message-ID: 948524.42923...@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm so sorry to read Spanky now has this problem. There is a Yahoo heart group that may help. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ Did your vet give Spanky any Lasix? It does help reduce the fluid. My sweet Albert went into CHF
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Re: Spanky - fluid in chest - mediastinaltumor in chest
That's very interesting. Reminds me that there's a Wisconsin protocol, which alternates traditional chemo drugs. I noticed it after one of my FELV kitties, Mittens, was on Vincristine and prednisone. It extended his life, I think, but only a few months. The link I find is http://www.maxshouse.com/Oncology/feline_lymphoma_and_leukemias.htm Gloria On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:11 AM, Melinda Kerr wrote: Stacy, I am not certain of the exact protocol. At one time I had it, but have long since lost it. I am in Japan and the American base vet cannot obtain the cancer medications. My Japanese vet has been very attentive and so far everything he has done has been successful. In the beginning he made me wait 10-14 days between treatments in order to allow her body to recover from the strong medicine. He does seem surprised that she recovered so quickly the first time and I am sure will be amazed once again when he sees the results of his second round. Unfortunately, I don't know what he used this last time. She received the following five treatments. All extremely strong drugs! Oncovin- 1st treatment Cyclophosphamide- 2nd treatment Doxorubicin- 3rd treatment Oncovin- 4th treatment Doxorubicin- 5th treatment All of this with 10mg of Prednisone per day. (We have since cut the Prednisone down to 5mg per day. ) I envy your access to an oncologist. Whatever is recommended, I'm sure will be your best bet! Thanks for the good wishes. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Hi Melinda: I am sorry about Fuji's mass but so happy she responded to chemo. What chemo did you give her? I recently joined the lymphoma list and for Spanky's type of mass (that has yet to be confirmed by biopsy) many have success with prednisoline and leukeran and some are using ac-11 to boost the white blood cells. I have a call into his oncologist/internal med specialist to see what she thinks about putting him on the leukeran. He is doing well on the pred - eating better and even ran up the stairs today which he hasn't done in many weeks. Purraying your Fuji continues to do well and thank you for sharing her story and success. Stacy and Spanky Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:11:24 +0900 From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: 255f926b-47f4-4aab-94ce-0148adf35...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stacy, My kitty Fuji is almost 18 months old. In July, she was diagnosed with FeLV and a mediastinal mass. Very little effort was spent diagnosing her, but the final conclusion was lymphoma because of the presence of FeLV. At that time, all I wanted was to make her more comfortable. She responded immediately to the chemotherapy treatment that she received. She continued to receive 4 more treatments at 10+ day intervals over the next couple of months. During that time she showed absolutely no side affects. The treatments were discontinued because her WBC count was too low (because of the FeLV) for our Japanese vet to feel he could safely do them considering the mass was completely gone. Since her last treatment in September, she has had two rounds of antibiotics for minor infections (I took her in for sneezing the first time.) Last week, I took her in with vomiting and discovered the mass had returned. Second remissions are supposed to be extremely hard to obtain. However, Fuji responded immediately once again to the treatment. A week later, she eats, plays, purrs and does everything she did before. She definitely acts like a more mature cat, but of course she is. We will follow up next week with additional blood tests to see if she can get a second treatment. I know every cat is different, but I never expected to have 4+ more months with my baby. She is still alive and doing pretty good for an FeLV cat with lymphoma! Best of luck to you and Spanky. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Hi Sharyl: Thanks to you and everyone on this list for your replies and purrayers. . I'm so sorry about your sweet Albert but glad you had the 1.5 years with him. It's been quite a week for us - Spanky went to his vet, then the internal med specialist/oncologist and was diagnosed with a mediastinal tumor in his chest, thus the fluids. My vets too said a few days only if I didn't do something. So I put him on prednisolone for now and may do a stronger round of something to try to kill the tumor. But I know it is dicey with his FELV + status/symptoms. I can't even think straight...but have to try to keep helping him. He made it through Thanksgiving and we are taking it one day (one hour!) at a time. Purrs, Stacy and Spanky Message: 8 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky - fluid
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
pennyroyal and lavender also On Oct 14, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Beth wrote: Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats I've seen it in Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
Stacy, I used to use Frontline on my 5 kitties but was always worried about the toxicity of it. I started researching and found a great list about the toxicity of flea and tick products on the NRDC (national resource defense council) website. I've always questioned the safeness of those topical treatments, and was reassured by my vets, but, come on, how can they be safe when they say YOU should not get them on YOUR skin? Anyway, I decided to go with Program. The one I buy is the kind you mix in their food. I was leery that they wouldn't eat it, but all 5 cats ate it w/no problem. It was one of the products on the list that was considered to have very low toxicity. Here's the link: http://www.greenpaws.org/_docs/GP_productlist.pdf It lists them in order of risk. I have had no problem with fleas this year, and 4 of my 5 cats go outside. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.comwrote: Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and confirm if he does have fleas or not. He eats from only stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump under his chin. So far I've found natural flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar oil (combinations of these). I will ask the vet about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas. Hope to be flea free, Stacy and Spanky Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Message-ID: 004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. All kinds of natural products. www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product to spray around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats can use the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas. The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune systems, the better! -Original Message- From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken for flea dirt. Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives against fleasthe cedar one is good. We use nematodes to spray around the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will cause severe anemia comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every month I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will deprive the cat of nutrients. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be fleas. I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this week. Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for fleas. I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat him. He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that would be good for him now. We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and bloodwork. I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for identification. Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
It's important never to use any of the essential oils on cats, unless it is known not to be harmful to them - I haven't had a chance to read ASPCA piece yet because I'm kept rather busy, 24/7, bottle feeding a teeny kittens since it was one day old - now, 2 weeks old. However, there are some products on the market with oils, but it's probably either safe or safe in tiny amounts. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS. MANY CAN BE HARMFUL. IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO AND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM. I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND THIS OUT, THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE. DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS AND CATS. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats I've seen it in Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
DEPENDS ON THE OIL, SOME LIKE TEA TREE OIL IS NOT SAFE IN ANY AMOUNT. JUST BEST TO CHECK FIRST BEFORE YOU BRING ANY OF THEM INTO YOUR HOUSE. I ONLY USE EUCALIPTUS, PEPPERMINT AND LAVENDER FOR MYSELF. NO PROBLEMS WITH THEM. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: It's important never to use any of the essential oils on cats, unless it is known not to be harmful to them - I haven't had a chance to read ASPCA piece yet because I'm kept rather busy, 24/7, bottle feeding a teeny kittens since it was one day old - now, 2 weeks old. However, there are some products on the market with oils, but it's probably either safe or safe in tiny amounts. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS. MANY CAN BE HARMFUL. IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO AND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM. I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND THIS OUT, THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE. DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS AND CATS. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats I've seen it in Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats I've seen it in Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS. MANY CAN BE HARMFUL. IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO AND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM. I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND THIS OUT, THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE. DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS AND CATS. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats I've seen it in Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
Be careful with some of the natural products and cats. It is one thing for them to be safe with dogs On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and confirm if he does have fleas or not. He eats from only stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump under his chin. So far I've found natural flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar oil (combinations of these). I will ask the vet about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas. Hope to be flea free, Stacy and Spanky Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Message-ID: 004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. All kinds of natural products. www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product to spray around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats can use the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas. The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune systems, the better! -Original Message- From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken for flea dirt. Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives against fleasthe cedar one is good. We use nematodes to spray around the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will cause severe anemia comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every month I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will deprive the cat of nutrients. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be fleas. I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this week. Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for fleas. I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat him. He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that would be good for him now. We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and bloodwork. I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for identification. Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
That's correct, never use anything that is meant for dog on cats! However, the two listed sites, have products for both cats and dogs. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas Be careful with some of the natural products and cats. It is one thing for them to be safe with dogs On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and confirm if he does have fleas or not. He eats from only stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump under his chin. So far I've found natural flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar oil (combinations of these). I will ask the vet about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas. Hope to be flea free, Stacy and Spanky Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Message-ID: 004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. All kinds of natural products. www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product to spray around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats can use the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas. The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune systems, the better! -Original Message- From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken for flea dirt. Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives against fleasthe cedar one is good. We use nematodes to spray around the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will cause severe anemia comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every month I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will deprive the cat of nutrients. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be fleas. I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this week. Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for fleas. I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat him. He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that would be good for him now. We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and bloodwork. I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for identification. Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
I wouldn't stop giving the CoQ10 because it really helps cats with suppressed immune systems - their gums, teeth - are very susceptible - CoQ10 not only prevents it but is good for so many other things. What's a little more powder in their food? Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stacy Zacher Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie Hi Tanya: I am so sorry about your Maggie. My FELV+ kitty was diagnosed with Early HCM years ago but it never really progressed much beyond a certain thickness on one side. He also was diagnosed with a perfect valentine shaped heart - misshapen. I used to give him CoQ10 - mixed in his canned food - 10 mg per day for his HCM. I can't say if it did or did not help but it didn't seem to hurt him at all. I stopped giving it to him when he was diagnosed with FELV - no reason really other than I'm giving him so much other stuff right now! Saying purrayers for your furbaby. Stacy = Message: 4 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:08:05 -0700 (PDT) From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Maggie Message-ID: 630180.7808...@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello everyone, ? ???It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
what, exactly, does CoQ10 prevent? and could you give some cites to research data on it? i haven't seen anything in a long time, and would be interested in seeing what the clinical findings are. additionally, cats who test positive for the FeLV antigen only once are not necessarily actually positive. even if they are persistently viremic, they are just normal cats until and if the virus is activated. while they are asymptomatic, they are not seriously immune compromised, and presuming that everything that happens to a cat who happens to FeLV+ is related to that status is not borne out in the real world of sanctuaries and multi-positive homes. i will post, yet again, a link to the american assn of feline practitioners 2008 guidelines for managing feline retroviruses, in a separate post. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
MC, CoQ10 doesn't cure or prevent anything. It does seem to support heart function. Most of the folks on the Yahoo heart group use it for their heart kitties. My sweet Albert was given days/weeks to live after going into CHF and then being dx with severe HCM. With the CoQ10 and other supplements he enjoyed another 1 1/2 yrs before his heart gave out. The recommended dose for kitties is 30 - 60 mg per day. I don't have links to any feline studies but here are links to some of the info I have. http://www.md-phc.com/nutrition/useful.html http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/coq10/ http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WALTHAMOSU2002PID=pr02987 http://drpollen.blogspot.com/2006/07/supplements-for-pets-with-heart.html Sharyl --- On Fri, 7/9/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 10:21 AM what, exactly, does CoQ10 prevent? and could you give some cites to research data on it? i haven't seen anything in a long time, and would be interested in seeing what the clinical findings are. additionally, cats who test positive for the FeLV antigen only once are not necessarily actually positive. even if they are persistently viremic, they are just normal cats until and if the virus is activated. while they are asymptomatic, they are not seriously immune compromised, and presuming that everything that happens to a cat who happens to FeLV+ is related to that status is not borne out in the real world of sanctuaries and multi-positive homes. i will post, yet again, a link to the american assn of feline practitioners 2008 guidelines for managing feline retroviruses, in a separate post. MC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
thanks, sharyl--i just find it alarming that people will do whatever someone on a list tells them to, without knowing if there's any value to it. too often, the only basis for using a product comes from the manufacturer or supplier, or their paid spokescreatures in drag. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
This is good info on CoQ10: Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University Coenzyme Q10 is a fat-soluble compound primarily synthesized by the body and also consumed in the diet. ... Coenzyme Q10 supplementation has resulted in clinical and metabolic ... http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/coq10/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie MC, CoQ10 doesn't cure or prevent anything. It does seem to support heart function. Most of the folks on the Yahoo heart group use it for their heart kitties. My sweet Albert was given days/weeks to live after going into CHF and then being dx with severe HCM. With the CoQ10 and other supplements he enjoyed another 1 1/2 yrs before his heart gave out. The recommended dose for kitties is 30 - 60 mg per day. I don't have links to any feline studies but here are links to some of the info I have. http://www.md-phc.com/nutrition/useful.html http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/coq10/ http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WALTHAMOSU2002PID=pr029 87 http://drpollen.blogspot.com/2006/07/supplements-for-pets-with-heart.html Sharyl --- On Fri, 7/9/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 10:21 AM what, exactly, does CoQ10 prevent? and could you give some cites to research data on it? i haven't seen anything in a long time, and would be interested in seeing what the clinical findings are. additionally, cats who test positive for the FeLV antigen only once are not necessarily actually positive. even if they are persistently viremic, they are just normal cats until and if the virus is activated. while they are asymptomatic, they are not seriously immune compromised, and presuming that everything that happens to a cat who happens to FeLV+ is related to that status is not borne out in the real world of sanctuaries and multi-positive homes. i will post, yet again, a link to the american assn of feline practitioners 2008 guidelines for managing feline retroviruses, in a separate post. MC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: vaccination questions
You can have titre tests done to check the level of antibody in the cat's system. I would say just forgo the vaccinations and/or titres if you are sure that the cat won't be hospitalized or boarded. Many vet hospitals and boarding facilities will not allow an animal to be admitted without proof of vaccination. While a certificate from your vet may get you past any state laws (like in NY) that require rabies vaccination, vet hospitals and boarding facilities are breeding grounds for germs and your kitty may end up exposed and unprotected. My vet pointed this out to me when I brought Horus (who has asthma) Blackie in for their annuals and questioned annual vaccinations. Avia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Both of my babies are due for check-ups and I had them run estimates on titres and shots etc. I personally believe that vaccinations should be reserved for when they're needed medically. I have signed legal waivers in the past to forgo the rabies shots for my boys. But when cost is an issue, things get complicated. current prices @ my clinic: FVRCP and rabies are each $22 The titre test for panleuk runs $47.50 (venipuncture charge here is $21.24, but they're pulling blood for the CBCs etc, so it's a wash). The titre test for rabies? $130 It really really really bothers me that the medically reasonable course is over five times the cost so while i really believe that a titre before a vaccination is the way to go, i simply can't afford it right now (we're condo-shopping). and i certainly can't do what i used to and take both kits in at the same time for check-ups! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Avia Rauscher a...@rauscher.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:40:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: vaccination questions You can have titre tests done to check the level of antibody in the cat's system. I would say just forgo the vaccinations and/or titres if you are sure that the cat won't be hospitalized or boarded. Many vet hospitals and boarding facilities will not allow an animal to be admitted without proof of vaccination. While a certificate from your vet may get you past any state laws (like in NY) that require rabies vaccination, vet hospitals and boarding facilities are breeding grounds for germs and your kitty may end up exposed and unprotected. My vet pointed this out to me when I brought Horus (who has asthma) Blackie in for their annuals and questioned annual vaccinations. Avia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Introduction
traditionalc...@gmail.com is a place you can post about breeder experiences if the breeder does not cooperate with you or if you want to make sure other buyers know about the FeLV. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Subject: Introduction You are certainly in the right place to learn about caring for your FELV+ cats. But I'd like to suggest that it is really important to follow through with the breeder that you bought these kittens from. I'm not quite sure the best path to follow in doing that though. Maybe you have already contacted him or her. It seems critical to me that the breeder not sell more infected kittens to people that may be less compassionate than you are and who may drop them off at a shelter. And also that the breeder not dump the kittens somewhere outside or leave them at a shelter herself. Having been a dedicated shelter volunteer, my perspective is that it often just spreads the tragedy for contagious kittens and cats to go into a shelter environment. And of course, the breeder REALLY needs to contact other customers whose cats may be infected to stop the spread of the disease in their homes.There really is no good way for a breeder to go forward from something like this and I imagine there may be some who would just like to ignore the whole issue and hope it goes away. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Tell her to contact the Attorney General's office in her state. They deal with consumer fraud issues. She can file a complaint with them, and then tell the homeopath she has done so and that she will take further action if she continues to harass her. If the homeopath does contact the credit agencies, your client has the right to send the credit agencies a letter explaining the facts and have it attached to her credit reports. Michelle In a message dated 11/11/2006 12:59:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The homeopath is question is now threatening to turn this client in to a collection agency!!!Kelly
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Sally,I don't have any advice for you. It sounds like your vet is not so great, and I have no recommendations for vets in that area. Hang in there, and take care of yourself too. tSally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Everyday that goes by I am more confused. Junior went to the vet today. She treated him for the upper respiratory infection. I though all was good with the world. I called her this evening to let her know how junior was doing. I do think he is still running a temp, but I did not want to upset him anymore. She was preparing me to put him down maybe as soon as tomorrow. I know at least for this moment he is not ready to cross that bridge. I have separated him and Tiny. The other cats are still locked outside the bedrooms. And mostly stay outside for their own safety. I know this group is for the cats, but I am mentally, emotionally,and physically drained.I had reactive hypoglycemia this morning.I have ordered immuno-regulan on Kelly's advice. I now will have to talk the vet into giving it. I printed out the protocol for administering it.Does anyone out there know of vets in the Richmond VA area who may be willing to work with me. My usual vets office is extremely busy.I am too tired to think.SallyPS My server would not send this message last night.Junior seems better this morning. I don't believe he has a fever. I will not put him through that ordeal unless I think there is a problem. Junior and Tiny don;t like each other. They don't fight, but they do growl a lot at each other. For now I will keep them separate. The stress may have benn what precipitated this most recent cold. -- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006
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i am not in VA but want to second the I-R idea. It really helped two of my cats get over sever resp. infections, one with pneumonia. one of my cats had 1/2 hour of vry high fever and chills after each shot. this is appaerently a rare side effect, and after she was immediately much better than before the shot, but wanted to tell you. Michelle
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Could we also ask a local newspaper to pick up the story and put pictures of the kitty? They did that for me once the kitty was saved from sewer -- and it was also helpful.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: (no subject) Be sure to email and thank amy for doing this story Kelly
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Who is Amy and what story did she do? (I am a bit confused with all the emails.)Ginakelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure to email and thank amy for doing this storyKellyVisit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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At 11:46 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote: I think she is the one doing the story on the news... Kelly Who is Amy and what story did she do? (I am a bit confused with all the emails.) Gina kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure to email and thank amy for doing this story Kelly Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/480 - Release Date: 10/17/2006
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I am giving it to Smokey subq. Smokey was running fevers back in January and February. The vet wanted to try using the immuno-regulin to see if it might help. He hasn't had any fevers since I started giving him these injections which was back in March. The fevers were the only problems he has had so far with being felv+. Cindy --- kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything I read states it is best given IV,,, Who is using it Sub Q Thanks Kelly __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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If the blockage is severe they typically remove the cat's penis and turn him into a 'her'. It's not really that uncommon. It may be that a blockage was so severe it couldn't be helped... but I've never heard of it. Though I have heard of the sex change!tTad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right... I paid for it 30+ years ago and that is when I learned the economy of paying a little more for good food...Tad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The surgery can get expensive though, and some vets may not know how to do it, BUT I would think they could have referred her to someone that could have helped, if money wasn't a factor. PhaewrynPLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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According to my vet--who I trust and respect--there has been a significant increase in diabetes and overweightin cats over the past few years. This is apparently attributed to the high carb content ofdry food. WhenI got my first cat 10 years ago I recall being advised to switch to dry food, even thomy catswere happy with their wet food. I dutifully changed to dry. Now the thinking is totally changed,and wet is better,not least because ofits high water content that helps prevent dehydration.. Wish I'd never switched to dry. I give mine both, because they lost weight when I cut down on dry and increased the wet. They wdn't eat the wet. Even now, I open no bigger than a 5oz can twice a day, between 5 cats. More often than not, much of it remains uneaten. They're quite addicted to the dry. Very frustrating (and wasteful)! Kerry - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: (no subject) I just recorded my Spaz story yesterday, and it has reminded me of a few things. I was wondering how common diabetes is in cats, and if any of you have experiences with it? I do not have any, but I would like to try to learn something ahead of time just in case. Hopefully, I will get the overweight ones to lose some weight with the new diet. I know a fair amount about human diabetes, since my husband is diabetic, but that could be different. Also, since the last go-around with anemia, when I would try to open the windows/doors, always Spaz would begin sneezing, etc., as if having allergies. So Ithought it betterto stop this so as not to stress her immune system. Now, with the knowledge of these supplements, that may change, but I was wondering if anyone else has had anything like this happen? Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com
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Sorry I'm so late responding to this - phenylalanine is not listed on the bag but if you look on the website, it is listed as an ingredient. I believe I have also now read that this is necessary or produced in the body, too, so it must be toxic at certain levels. I have yet to finish researching that. I suspect maybe the amount in the food is so little that it is acceptable. I understand now about the wet food protein ratio. Thanks to everybody for their help! Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:26 AM Subject: Re: (no subject) They both make wet foods too, try that petfooddirect.com website I posted, they show all their wet foods too (I believe I posted direct links to the wet varieties for each brand I listed). I'm reading my bag of California natural right now, it does NOT have phenyalanine in it, unless it's under the guise of "natural flavors". I think that out of all the wet brands I read doing the research for you that the Innova Evo was the highest protein wet cat food available. I'm not the local expert on wet and raw diets for this group.. I'm sure one of them will join in and tell us why wet/raw is better due to the increased liquid and how the protein ratios work out, but I am fairly sure that it's the same in the end because the cats on "wet" diets drink less water so the protein they eat doesn't get "diluted" much with extra water, where-as cats on dry diets drink a ton more water, so the protein in the food they eat gets well diluted down to the same difference as what's in wet food... that's the only logical explanation as to why wet cat food is so much lower in protein. Someone here MUST know that for sure though I guess I'm used to living out in the country, I order most everything online. My food I can buy at my vet's office, but all supplies and supplements I buy at fostersmith.com. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Also, I'm sure some you guys already know this, as I did, but just hadn't thought about it before - hard water can contribute to blockages as well. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: Re: (no subject) Right... I paid for it 30+ years ago and that is when I learned the economy of paying a little more for good food...Tad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The surgery can get expensive though, and some vets may not know how to do it, BUT I would think they could have referred her to someone that could have helped, if money wasn't a factor. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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I would have gotten another opinion. Most blockages can be cleared. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: (no subject) Hey, I just found out about a lady who "had" to pts her 13 y/o male cat because his urinary tract was blocked and "they couldn't do anything about it." What do you guys make of this? Is this possible? Couldn't they have done surgery, at the very least? Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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The surgery can get expensive though, and some vets may not know how to do it, BUT I would think they could have referred her to someone that could have helped, if money wasn't a factor. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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I would guess there is more to the story... Like they waited too long to bring the cat to the vet... Kidneys start to fail after 24 hours and that causes a chain of down fall... Or maybe the vet said he couldn't do it for under $50... Other wise its not that hard to take care of... Tad Marylyn wrote: I would have gotten another opinion. Most blockages can be cleared. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: (no subject) Hey, I just found out about a lady who "had" to pts her 13 y/o male cat because his urinary tract was blocked and "they couldn't do anything about it." What do you guys make of this? Is this possible? Couldn't they have done surgery, at the very least? Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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Right... I paid for it 30+ years ago and that is when I learned the economy of paying a little more for good food... Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The surgery can get expensive though, and some vets may not know how to do it, BUT I would think they could have referred her to someone that could have helped, if money wasn't a factor. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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Just wanted y'all to know, I have a friend who is helping take my kitty, Samantha, to the Cancer Center in Dallas tomorrow. Please send prayers for her, she needs all the help she can get, and I've asked for a kitty angel just for her. I've had one all my life, there's no reason she shouldn't have one, too. I'm hoping the mass in her chest is treatable, and is something simple, although I know it's probably the Mediastinal lymphoma, since she's already been diagnosed. I'm also hoping it hasn't gotten into her bones. Is there a natural diuretic I can give her, that won't harm her? I've run out of the Lasix the vet had her on, and haven't got any left for tonight or tomorrow. Thanks, all :) Julia On Saturday, June 17, 2006, at 11:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They both make wet foods too, try that petfooddirect.com website I posted, they show all their wet foods too (I believe I posted direct links to the wet varieties for each brand I listed). I'm reading my bag of California natural right now, it does NOT have phenyalanine in it, unless it's under the guise of natural flavors. I think that out of all the wet brands I read doing the research for you that the Innova Evo was the highest protein wet cat food available. I'm not the local expert on wet and raw diets for this group.. I'm sure one of them will join in and tell us why wet/raw is better due to the increased liquid and how the protein ratios work out, but I am fairly sure that it's the same in the end because the cats on wet diets drink less water so the protein they eat doesn't get diluted much with extra water, where-as cats on dry diets drink a ton more water, so the protein in the food they eat gets well diluted down to the same difference as what's in wet food... that's the only logical explanation as to why wet cat food is so much lower in protein. Someone here MUST know that for sure though I guess I'm used to living out in the country, I order most everything online. My food I can buy at my vet's office, but all supplies and supplements I buy at fostersmith.com. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Your vet should be able to refill your prescription first thing tomorrow morning. Good luck! Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Thanks, it's just that I was hoping to have something to give her tonight; that's the only thing the regular vet has her on, that's helping some of the fluid drain out of her, and I'm worried as to what might happen if she doesn't get her usual dose tonight. She's also on an Immune Support drug, don't know what it is, the bottle doesn't say. Julia On Sunday, June 18, 2006, at 07:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your vet should be able to refill your prescription first thing tomorrow morning. Good luck! Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Thanks, Marilyn, I love that song, have been hearing it a lot, lately. :) Julia On Sunday, June 18, 2006, at 07:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your vet should be able to refill your prescription first thing tomorrow morning. Good luck! Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Yeah, I totally understand... I assume you are trying to not get the emergency visit charge, and that is why you didn't call over the weekend (or perhaps your vet just doesn't have an emergency service at all). I don't know of anything safe for cats though that you could get OTC. I do know many of the "diet" pills for sale OTC are just diuretics, but I have no idea if they are safe for cats, or the dosage. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Thanks, I don't think I'll take the chance of diet pills that might not be safe for her, because I don't know, either. Better to be safe than sorry. My vet is only open until 12:00 noon on Saturdays, and not at all on Sundays. I don't think they have an emergency number to call. I guess I'll just take the chance that she'll be ok until tomorrow morning, and give her the other pill, as she still has plenty of those. :) Julia On Sunday, June 18, 2006, at 11:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, I totally understand... I assume you are trying to not get the emergency visit charge, and that is why you didn't call over the weekend (or perhaps your vet just doesn't have an emergency service at all). I don't know of anything safe for cats though that you could get OTC. I do know many of the diet pills for sale OTC are just diuretics, but I have no idea if they are safe for cats, or the dosage. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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EVO has a canned food now. I would not vaccinate a sick or compromised cat. That is my opinion only but it is based on what several vets have told me. We over vaccinate anyway. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: (no subject) Hey guys, I have some questions. 1) Where can I find a good vit./min. supplement that is not also high in calories? All I know of is that Hartz stuff at Wal-Mart, Target, etc. 2) In regards to feeding only canned food for a sensitive digestive system, what is something good to feed? I've noticed that all the canned stuff is very low in protein - I thought cats needed a much higher protein (like in the dry foods), so is it healthy to feed only canned long-term? 3) What is your opinion about giving a rabies vacc. to a felv+ cat? Originally, they gave Spaz the vacc. and she was fine. Later, a different vet suggested not messing with the immune system, especially since she is indoors only. This makes sense to me, and I tend to agree with it, but wanted some other input. I do work with ferals where I work, but none has ever had rabies, I have never been bitten, and I always wash and disinfect my hands/arms before dealing with any of my own cats at home. 4) Do you guys know of any seminars, etc., where we so-called "uneducated" people can speak and talk about our experiences? 5) Do you know of anyfelv research facilities? Thank you much, Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Walmart is NOT the place to buy anything for your cat. Order through your vet, or use a good reputable online pet supply company. I really like http://drsfostersmith.com they deliver very quickly too. FosterSmith has MANY vitamin supplements, and if you click for "more info" it lists all of the calorie/contents of each one. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Oh, the canned food thing... I have a bad feeling that since the only place you knew to buy vitamin supplements was Walmart, you may actually be feeding that stuff they call "cat food" that you can buy in Walmart or the grocery store. That stuff is NOT any good at all. Friskies, Cat Chow, Alley Cat, etc, all TRASH; Pro Plan, Iams, Hill's, all only one step above TRASH. You should only buy pet food at a vet's office or a specialty pet supply store. Look for the "super premium" brands. A can of cat food should NEVER cost less than $0.75 for a 5.5 oz can (most good ones are near a dollar a can or more), or you aren't buying good quality. Friskies, Purina, Fancy Feast, those are all BAD foods. Read the ingredients labels, the first ingredient should always be some kind of MEAT (not meat by products, or bone meal, or anything except MEAT). Cat food should never contain any corn. Cat food should ideally not contain anything you can't pronounce, unless it's a vitamin or mineral (carrageenan, guar gum, BHA, BHT, etc, all not so great wet cat food ingredients). Sometimes you can't get around the guar gum, just look for ones with LESS of it). Make sure that any cat food you feed has TAURINE in it. Even the super premium brands, in wet food, they will be lower protein than dry foods. This is due to the amount of water used to make it. It's not any less quality of protein, it's just watered down. Cats fed all wet food diets will tend to drink less water on the side, cats that eat all dry food diets will drink more. It works out about the same in the end. Most people choose to feed both dry and wet, others choose all dry (usually due to convenience), others choose all wet (cats tend to prefer wet food, many owners claim it's more natural since raw dead animals are very wet by nature). Still other owners choose to feed all raw diets of REAL dead animals, the MOST natural diet for any carnivore, such as a cat. Lot's of us just don't have that much time, that's my excuse anyways. I feed free choice dry food in an auto-feeder and give wet food as a treat only upon occasion. But I work two jobs, and just don't have much time to do "what's best". It's all what WORKS for you, and what your cat does the best on. It's very trialerror. :) Here is the brands I feed, their website is very good, you can view each variety of cat food, and read all the ingredients, and nutritional info for each one. They even let you compare four kinds side by side: http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=foods-tab Their Innova EVO is the highest proteincat food they make (I personally feed the California Natural brand): http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=product-detail[EMAIL PROTECTED] Other good brands: Wellness: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=913 Chicken Soup: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=630 Felidae: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=300 Wysong: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=151 (there are others, just read labels) If you don't have a good vet store or pet supply store near you, this is a good online pet food store: http://petfooddirect.com/store/ (you can look up many brands and compare on this site, a wonderful resource) Just so you know, there are super premium cat food brands that aren't very good too, so you have to read labels. One to avoid is Flint River... it's all corn and by-products, yet very expensive. I hope that helps! Jenn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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Well, let your bad feeling leave you :) I forgot all about Drs. Foster Smith (sorry to have bothered anyone with that question now), but I do know of them. I guess I was just looking for a location to actually GO to and get it. Also, I do not buy my cat food at Wal-Mart; I am currently buying from a specialty store. I know the other stuff is garbage, and also know to avoid by-products, bone meals, corn, and additives, and that taurine is an essential nutrient. I just don't remember seeing any good vitamin supplements at the pet store, either, but perhaps I'm wrong...I've been to the naturapet website looking at Felidae and Calif. Naturals, but that was just dry food. Also, Calif. Nat. has phenyalanine in it, which is known to cause tumors. I will go back and check out the moist food at their site and the other you gave, but I'm still not sure I understand how the cat will get enough protein when the percentage is so much lower. Will I simply feed more of it to make up the difference? Thanks for all your guys' input! Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: Re: (no subject) Oh, the canned food thing... I have a bad feeling that since the only place you knew to buy vitamin supplements was Walmart, you may actually be feeding that stuff they call "cat food" that you can buy in Walmart or the grocery store. That stuff is NOT any good at all. Friskies, Cat Chow, Alley Cat, etc, all TRASH; Pro Plan, Iams, Hill's, all only one step above TRASH. You should only buy pet food at a vet's office or a specialty pet supply store. Look for the "super premium" brands. A can of cat food should NEVER cost less than $0.75 for a 5.5 oz can (most good ones are near a dollar a can or more), or you aren't buying good quality. Friskies, Purina, Fancy Feast, those are all BAD foods. Read the ingredients labels, the first ingredient should always be some kind of MEAT (not meat by products, or bone meal, or anything except MEAT). Cat food should never contain any corn. Cat food should ideally not contain anything you can't pronounce, unless it's a vitamin or mineral (carrageenan, guar gum, BHA, BHT, etc, all not so great wet cat food ingredients). Sometimes you can't get around the guar gum, just look for ones with LESS of it). Make sure that any cat food you feed has TAURINE in it. Even the super premium brands, in wet food, they will be lower protein than dry foods. This is due to the amount of water used to make it. It's not any less quality of protein, it's just watered down. Cats fed all wet food diets will tend to drink less water on the side, cats that eat all dry food diets will drink more. It works out about the same in the end. Most people choose to feed both dry and wet, others choose all dry (usually due to convenience), others choose all wet (cats tend to prefer wet food, many owners claim it's more natural since raw dead animals are very wet by nature). Still other owners choose to feed all raw diets of REAL dead animals, the MOST natural diet for any carnivore, such as a cat. Lot's of us just don't have that much time, that's my excuse anyways. I feed free choice dry food in an auto-feeder and give wet food as a treat only upon occasion. But I work two jobs, and just don't have much time to do "what's best". It's all what WORKS for you, and what your cat does the best on. It's very trialerror. :) Here is the brands I feed, their website is very good, you can view each variety of cat food, and read all the ingredients, and nutritional info for each one. They even let you compare four kinds side by side: http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=foods-tab Their Innova EVO is the highest proteincat food they make (I personally feed the California Natural brand): http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=product-detail[EMAIL PROTECTED] Other good brands: Wellness: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=913 Chicken Soup: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=630 Felidae: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=300 Wysong: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=151 (there are others, just read labels) If you don't have a good vet store or pet supply store near you, this is a good online pet food store: http://petfooddirect.com/store/ (you can look up many brands and compare on this site, a wonderful resource) Just so you know, there are super premium cat food brands that aren't very good too, so you have to read labels. One to avoid is Flint River... it's all corn and by-products, yet very expensive. I hope that helps! Jenn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Li
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PS. I forgot to say I would very much like a copy of the study faxed to me. My fax is 253 826-2810 thanks!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Hi, Where are you trying to ad this resource? Send me the address. I have repeatedly tried to get the practice of Dr. E A Boswell added to Ky and have failed. I have filled out the forms and I don't know of anything else to do. I am not complaining, just trying to provide a well respected source to those in Ky and adjoining areas. Can you assist me? Thanks -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Thanks, Belinda. I never completely lose hope, but every sneeze and oddity make me morose and fearful after losing three. Michelle In a message dated 9/4/05 12:07:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, Just so youdon't loss hope, Bailey my positive was diagnosed positive at 5 months of age and he turned 10 years old this May.
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He was very lucky to have such a full and mischievous life, and to be able to live it to the hilt until so shortly before he passed away and at an old age. I know that this does not help, because you miss him terribly, but from a distance he seems like a very lucky cat. I wish such full and long lives for all of mine (maybe minus the dog attacks and injuries due to wanderlust, but with all the energy and zest for life that got him into those situations). My Simon had a zest for life like that too, and it was something to see. Michelle In a message dated 9/3/05 2:48:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He was diagnosed at 14 yrs and was never sick from Felv until two months ago when he started losing weight. He had a big appetite up until 2 days before he passed.
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He was diagnosed at 14 yrs and was never sick from Felv until two months ago when he started losing weight. He had a big appetite up until 2 days before he passed.
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Sheila, I am so sorry. Did Bubba actually have FeLV for 16 years? Is that possible? If so, he must have had an angel looking over him, and it gives me some hope. Michelle
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He was obviously loved very much. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Bubba... =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: (no subject) Please add my beautiful Bubba to the list.He left us Friday evening after a longstruggle with Felv. I have never had a cat whoenjoyed life so much.He was my oldest (16) and sweetest.He was the last of a family of seven that came to us in 1989. His life was sofull of mishapsthe first few years he would sneak out of the house like a little escape artist .He was hit buy a car twice and twice attacked buy neighborhood dogs. Once he got out and was missing for 10 days. With the help of everyone in the neighborhood we searched everywhere we could thinkto look.We finallygave up the search thinking he was gone for good.Then late one night I heard a little meowoutside when I opened the door he stood there grinning like he had only been gone a few minutes.After losing hisleftfront leg he decided the adventures weren't worth the pain and gave up his life of escape.His injuries left him a little slow mentally (Forest Gump),but that only made him more loveable. Everything about him was bigger than life ,his curiosity,his appetite, his ability to charm and get along with every one. I can't imagine life without this sweet precious rogue. Sheila
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Sheila, I'm so sorry about the loss of your Bubba. He certainly had a full and rich life; so many adventures. I can only imagine how sorely he will be missed. It's so hard to train yourself to stop worrying about them when they've spent their lives getting into mischief. I have a couple on the other side that I still find myself musing about when I'm doing head counts. When everyone is accounted for, would I be thinking, where's Trouble? What's Molly gotten into now? And then in a strange way, I'm relieved. I never have to worry about them ever again. There's no further need to fear for them. They are safer than I could ever have ensured, even with all my precautions. Such a bittersweet thought. Bless your beautiful Bubba and your family in their grief. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please add my beautiful Bubba to the list.He left us Friday evening after a long struggle with Felv. I have never had a cat who enjoyed life so much.He was my oldest (16) and sweetest.He was the last of a family of seven that came to us in 1989. His life was so full of mishaps the first few years he would sneak out of the house like a little escape artist .He was hit buy a car twice and twice attacked buy neighborhood dogs. Once he got out and was missing for 10 days. With the help of everyone in the neighborhood we searched everywhere we could think to look. We finally gave up the search thinking he was gone for good.Then late one night I heard a little meow outside when I opened the door he stood there grinning like he had only been gone a few minutes. After losing his left front leg he decided the adventures weren't worth the pain and gave up his life of escape.His injuries left him a little slow mentally (Forest Gump),but that only made him more loveable. Everything about him was bigger than life ,his curiosity,his appetite, his ability to charm and get along with every one. I can't imagine life without this sweet precious rogue. Sheila
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Michelle, Just so youdon't loss hope, Bailey my positive was diagnosed positive at 5 months of age and he turned 10 years old this May. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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My prayers for Pheffer Anne, and her parents. What kind of cancer does she have? Is it treatable? There are several cancer groups I could recommend depending on what kind it is. I have added her to the service. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Title: Message Please tell her parents I'm sending prayers for Pheffer Anne, Georgette. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 3:38 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: (no subject) One of the babies I watch who's names is Pheffer Anne is sick. Her mother and father were told yesterday that there babie has cancer. Would you please put here on your prayer list because it does not look good. Thanks Georgette! nbsp; IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Are you saying that she's feral? Or is she a stray? Is it a light positive, or a strong positive? Gloria On Jul 11, 2005, at 3:58 PM, maimaipg wrote: I had a cat tested for FeLV a few weeks ago and she came back positive. We will retest soon. She is about a year old, maybe pregnant, and a throw away. I have never had this happen before and I have done spay release for several years with feral cats. I contacted vet who does alternative medicine and we have her on supplements hoping to boost her immune system. Can anyone give me any advise on how to care for this cat? I have one 13 year old cat that is negative for FeLV but who has some health problems so I can't even consider letting them together. Any information would be appreciated.
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yes thanxs- must a been a glich From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 03:00:43 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: (no subject) [EMAIL PROTECTED] got your testing message did you get this? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
