Nancy, that's GREAT! Good for you!
Gloria
On Nov 6, 2005, at 5:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Crissy, in my opinion, Frito and Emilio should
stay in their home! I personally have 16 cats, 3
of whom are positive now and several others in
the past who have sadly lost the battle. All
share
Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything
including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are
still negative.
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
Title: RE: risk of contagion Q
Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV.
Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes):
Do any of you mix
I have done that but not on purpose! I had a feral cat in a carrier in my living room where I had maybe 1/2 dozen feline leukemia positive cats and kittens at the time. She got away from me and hid it the room - and was there for a full 9 months before I was able to catch her. Ate and drank from
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Susan---that's very interesting. How old was the feral
kitty at the time. Not a kitten, I'm thinking?
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No. I'd say a young adult. A year, maybe, give or take a month or two either way -- at the time I trapped her."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Susan---that's very interesting. How old was the feral kitty at the time. Not a kitten, I'm thinking?
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Hi Kerry,
My negatives are all vaccinated, this is what has worked for us for
10 years so I won't change anything. It is my understanding though that
a healthy, adult cat with a healthy immune system would probably be OK.
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
Title: RE: risk of contagion Q
Well,
I vaccinate my 3 negs now but they were all exposed to one of my pos for
several years before I knew she was pos. I got them all as kittens so
they were exposed at a very early ageshared food, litter, groomed each
other and all those other things cats
Hi Guys,
I hope your weekend was a relaxing one. I did manage
to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed. My
mom, aunt, and cousin went by the house on Saturday
and gave Cricket his Prednisolone and Cyproheptadine
and loved on him quite a bit. My best friend came by
Sunday and gave him
Here's a Q that I keep meaning to
ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT
vaccinating your negs?
I did in the past. When I moved up north, from Arkansas,
none of my cats had ever been vaccinated against anything. Moogie (the FELV+)
was born while in
Oh, yes, I am on two FIV lists (6 years)but
my FIV+ are on Itraconazole. Emily is negative for FIV/FeLV. Her
eyes are okay, don't care about fur loss, she does havetwo mountain range
scabs and other scabs; this am an oozy area and she whacks at it with her back
foot ... told her that was a
Here's an idea... glue some of those Soft Paw nail caps on her BACK feet,
that would work!
http://www.softpaws.com/
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a
FELV+
Hi Ken,
My name is Wendy. Welcome to the group and I hope it
is as wonderful a source for you as it has been for
me. You and I have very similar situations right now.
My kitty Cricket has been hanging in there for the
past three weeks. To be honest, I haven't seen a
marked improvement in
I don't vaccinate my negs - They have had vacs a long time back, but
they're healthy and indoor, so I don't do vacs.
Gloria
On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:03 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats
involved (in accidentally eating the
Wow, glad to hear he's hanging in there and that his gums are pink -
and glad to hear that you had a break in Corpus Christi!
Gloria
On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:23 AM, wendy wrote:
Hi Guys,
I hope your weekend was a relaxing one. I did manage
to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed.
Thanks Gloria--- you mix yours--- but you say they're indoors, meaning
they don't come into contact with unknown cats who may have Felv. Ok, so
next Q, and this time it's pertinent to my own dilemma:
Is your thinking that your healthy cats have successfully stayed neg
while living alongside your
Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your
prayers!
I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control
came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current
ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a
Hi Hideyo,
I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place
Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all
my animals.
Different
Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared,
with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which
they may well not possess in any case).
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I also ordered a box of Terumo needles, size 20 .
I also administer it a little differently. I have a 60 cc syringe, and
have a flexible plastic extension that I put the needle on at the
end. Give the cat more wiggle room. I fill the syringe, and use it
(not the bag) to give fluids. I
Sending GLOW and love and support your way and tolerance and acceptance to the holders of the hearing Your babies need you as much as you need them!!
HUGSHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers!
I mentioned to you a
Hideyo, I'm so sorry - lots of prayers and good vibes for you and your
babies. Gloria
At 12:31 PM 11/7/2005, you wrote:
Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers!
I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came
over regarding having the
There is a case in PA, where the city gave a lady a citation for having
like 25 to 35 cats and she actually appealed to the PA state court and
actually the state court ruled against the city's ruling saying that,
having numerous number of cats itself merely do not prove the presence
of nuisance, -
Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course for sweet Ginger!
Thank you very much!!
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
12:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Need all your prayers
- please!!
Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course
I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great
ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually
want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think?
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Bring everything you can. Better to have than not to have with you on
the day. I've never been to one of those but I'd say beter to come
prepared to make a factual presentation--as opposed to simply passively
answering their Qs ???
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I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had
done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway)
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Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM
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Yep.. sorry, I knew that's what you meant..
Last time, when they came over, they wanted to meet every cat I had (I
gave a list of their names),,, just so that they know they look
healthy..
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Kerry
Ah, yes, good idea. Very good idea. Pix of building, indoors and out,
plus cats shown in the building, plus closeups of cats to show how well
they are. Plus receipts of all the meds you buy including homeopathic.
Hideyo, no one cares for cats better than you---I hope some of those
people sitting
Wendy
Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the innumoregulin. I have supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic but I am afraid I found out
Hideyo,
The suggestions given sound good, being prepared with pictures of your
habitat, receipts for medical and housing costs etc. Could you write
up some sort of acknowledgment of your general good deeds in caring for
the cats? Get as many signatures on it as possible, vets, neighbors,
etc.
Thats a good idea I am not
a good writer but I have an idea, and Greg is a lawyer and writes really
well.. so maybe he can edit it I have 5 days to request a hearing from
this Wednesdays thats when an office will bring me all the paper work I
need to request a hearing, but I am not sure
I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't
offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
take them to my moms until they
Aww Ken, I'm so sorry Max isn't doing well. I know how hard it is to be
away from them at times like these. I'm praying that he bounces back
with the IR and that you have lots more wonderful times together.
Much love to you and Max,
Nina
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Wendy
Thank you very
I don't know where my vet got it - think from someone who works at
the local university med center. But it's just a flexible plastic
tube, about 6 or 8 inches. It has one end that allows me to fit it
on the syringe. And the other end is for the needle. I think it's
aactually called an
I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't find
a home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I end
up with more cats --my question is then, what will they do? Will they
take away from me and eventually kill them?
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From:
Ken,
I know EXACTLY how you feel about not wanting to be at
work. All you can do is think and worry about your
kitty. I know it's hard. Just hang in there. I
thought the same thing about Cricket, that he wouldn't
survive long. Part of it was because I had filled my
head with so much
I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing
with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for
sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would
give you like 30 days to find homes for however many
over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of
30 days, they will probably
Thank You
You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 weekso far.Good to hear.
We are scheduled for the immunoregulin tomorrow and since he is so weak and really needs blood, I would like to know if it is something that should be done. Is there anytrhing else I should be doing at this point
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Praying for Max, Ken. I hope he makes it.
Kerry
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2005 1:41 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: To
Ken and Max
Wendy
Thank you very
Think that's what I'd do!
Gloria
On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:
I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't
offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
get
On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of
adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one
side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to
explore the option - do you know what I am talking about?
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From:
Hey Ken - just wondering if you found another vet... Also, there are
some other options - have you used interferon alpha? I give that
every day to my kitties. Hope Max is doing well. I'm sending good
thoughts and prayers for you two.
Gloria
On Nov 7, 2005, at 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I got some at Home DepotHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type ofadhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from oneside, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted toexplore the option - do you
What do you call it, do you know?
From:
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Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
2:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers
- please!!
I got some at Home Depot
Hideyo Yamamoto
There is film that comes in rolls--you should be able to buy at any Lowes or
Home Depot...
Chris
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:06 PM
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Hideyo,you will be in my prayers every night. I don't know what I would do if someone tried to take my fur balls. I do believe it would kill me. I hate to think of the anguish you must be going through. We all will keep positive thoughts and with Gods help everything will turn out fine.
Sheila
Hi Ken,
Have you looked into a blood transfusion to help get Max over the hump
until the imm kicks in??
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To:
I don't remember - I think I just went in and described what I wanted. Comes in different size rolls and it may have been with the roll-up bamboo -type shades or close by. That is what I got at the same time. It has been over a year -- the city code people cited my carport for having things on it
Dear Hideyo,
I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until
you win this battle. Better to be over prepared (actually no-such-thing)
that to just passively answer questions as they come. Definately get your
previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and
Hi, Kathy, thank you very much!
How are the kittens? (maybe now they are too big to be called kittens?)
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your
Ken,
Before I knew something was wrong with Cricket, he
cried when I picked him up as well. That's when I
started noticing something was wrong. Make sure that
the vet tells you whether or not Max has a responsive
anemia or non-responsive anemia, because that is what
tells you what is wrong
Man, I feel for you Hideyo. Some people just don't
have a life and they get into everyone else's business
and cause problems because they don't. I hate that.
--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone anonymously reported me that I have many
cats - not any type of
complains
Hideyo,
Athena and Artemis are about 6 months now - but they are still kittens.
My vet is on temporary leave (pregnancy) during November, but I hope to
have her spay the girls - probably just after Xmas since I have the week
between Xmas/NewYears off from work. I really need to get new pics...
Good luck, Hideyo! If you have not already, you should call the Animal
Legal Defense Fund in CA (they have a website with contact info) and ask for a
referral to a pro bono attorney in HI to help you at your hearing.
Michelle
I really think he should get a transfusion, but I think it should be
cross-typed.
Michelle
In a message dated 11/7/2005 2:51:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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Thank You
You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 weekso far.Good to
hear.
We are scheduled
Hi A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I am totally broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and things have been very rough.
. Make sure that the vet tells you whether or not Max has a responsive anemia or non-responsive anemia,
Will the vet know that from the first blood tests?
I also understand that the blood should be typed but no one would do it. for less than a grand and I just don't have it.
Someone said pred
WOW!! Im not
been keeping up with posts but are you anywhere near Vet Schoolsometimes
you can get care there by interns for substantially less
Chris
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Ken,
1) I am surprised no one will type the blood as part of the transfusion.
That is how it was done for Simon, and the whole transfusion, including typing
and flushing, was about $400-- and at a large university hospital near
Boston. Have you tried looking for a larger hospital?
2)
Oh, and 4) the vet who wrote that article on I-R says that I-R has saved
some cats who other vets would have transfused, even without a transfusion. I
personally would not take the chance.
Besides that being an outrageously high price well beyond anything I have
ever heard of, there are some online groups that provide money to people who
cannnot afford treatments for their cats. I do not know if they would help
where the outcome is so ambiguous, but if you are interested I
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I paid
something like $400 fora transfusion at emergency services in
Chicago---what shocked me was the extra $250 charged for drawing the blood from
one of my healthy cats.
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The largest hospital in the country is here and they want a minimum of $1,000. Other hospitals here were the same.The 400, even though it would come out of bills suppose to be paid. I would do.
Hi
I know imom through the other board I am on (feline diabetes)and even some of the people who run it and in better times, I have given them money. I don't feel i could consider it as they supply money monthly to help people take care of diabetic cats. Right now they are struggling and since it
anywhere near Vet School
Good idea. I don't know but will begin checking. i am in the New york?Jersey area
Where are you located? I don't understand the price difference. If you are
in NYC (the only place I can imagine things being so expensive), maybe you could
come to NJ for it.
Michelle
In a message dated 11/7/2005 5:21:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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The largest
In a message dated 11/7/2005 10:38:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Itraconazole.
What is this drug?
Thanks,
Michelle
- I live in New Jersey. Oradell Animal hospital wanted a grand minimum
Ken,
Did you call Carnegie Cat Clinic in Princeton? Try there, or Red Bank
Animal Hospital. Might be a hike for you, but both are excellent
facilities.
=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome'
I do not know where Oradell is. What part of NJ are you in? People
are always raving about Red Bank Veterinary Hospital. There are a few
Veterinary Referral Centers in NJ too, though I can not remember where they
are-- but a search on Google for this term and NJ will probably bring them up.
Also, here is a web link with a list of vet clinics in NJ: http://www.doggeek.com/Vets/New%20Jersey.shtml
Michelle
Just found out from the vet that it is non regenitive anemia and a transfusion would only prolong the inevitable for a shot time. I think I am going to let my boy rest so there is no pain. He won't come to my house so I am going to try to find a vet that will.
Thank you all for your kindness and
If you have a place to foster any of your kitties
temporarily, you might want to do that ASAP. When do you go to
court? Depends on how crappy the law feels that day ... I do know of a man
in the northeast a year or two ago, the law came in without warning and took
everyone of his personal
Cornell University in Itaca is the one that comes off the top of my head
Not sure about vet schools in New Jersey.
Chris
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Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from. I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for.
Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me
Goodnight, sweet Max...
=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome'
=^..^=
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My
Personal Page:
No matter what his early years were, Max
was a very lucky little guy to have found you. And you will have him
forever in your heart.
Chris
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WOW, that seems awfully steep, can you call around and find a vet
that will do it cheaper?
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
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I'm so
sorry Ken. Sadly most of us on this list have a good idea of how you are feeling
right now. You will at least always know you did your best for Max. I'm glad
your little furball knew what it was to be loved and cared for in his short
life.
take
care
Kerry
Hi Hideyo,
I have been reading that you were having a problem with the animal control...I do understand..
Today in our local paper...it stated we were to only have no more than 3 dogs and 3 cats on our property in the city limits...So believe me I know what you feel...I wish they would understand
Hi Kerry,
I have all my kitties together with Bandy and have since I took him in 2001...He wasn't tested then but since we found out in July about his Felv and Fiv, I couldn't separate them...The others tested neg..except 1 which was Felv + with no symptoms...They haven't been vaccinated inat
I've used them for years and never heard this either. I hope when I catch up with everything someone has the answer to this one
tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could it be a misunderstanding on a vets part I am on CRF list and I know most of the people use LRS and never
I believe the vet I worked for was an idiot. Sorry to scare anyone. What's
REALLY scary, is that she is most likely STILL in business down in
Tennessee.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt
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Thanks
Kerry---yes, agree, I would not have separated them either--that's why I still
have one neg living with my 1 (remaining pos). They love snuggling
together.
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Oh Ken, I'm crying at your beautiful tribute to your
special Max. You were both blessed to have found each
other and you gave him the best ending possible - at
home, peacefully, surrounded by loved ones. Our
thoughts and tears are with you.
HUGS
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