Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
Argue, I wholeheartedly agree with your observation and that is exactly what I find bizarre about this. Vets will not question us if we want to put our cats down, but they will treat us like criminals, trafficking in some sort of forbidden commodity, if we want to try different things in a

Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Surgery

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
Bob I too find it is indeed difficult to post on here. If you can, Bob, I would speak to the vet who offered you the discounted surgical rate, and ask them to extend the time frame. You have a difficult enough situation to consider without having the added pressure of time constraints.

Re: [Felvtalk] Double Posted Blank Message...

2016-10-04 Thread Margo
Hi Bob, I usually have no trouble with your messages, although they do always appear twice. Guess I didn't go far enough, sorry :) I have had enucleations done on two cats. I don't think there's any way to do a less extensive surgery. They both (Gizmo and Poppy) did very

Re: [Felvtalk] Double Posted Blank Message...

2016-10-04 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Margo: It is often frustrating posting here because ( perhaps depending on the internet provider, or the type of computer or OS someone is using) a lot of messages post differently ( eg ALL of mine come across with a bunch of Question marks in them that I did not put there myself  

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy Thank you for the comment, but I really feel that all I have is a scientific hypothesis based on my observations, research, and the weekly bloodwork I did on Zander. That is part of the problem of course, There are no actual studies. However, as more people take the step of tracking

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
Either I had a brain fart or my computer did an automatic spelling correction. Sorry about that Ardy. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: October-04-16 2:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Ardy Robertson
I’m up for that Amani, Even though I don’t presently have any fur-kids with FeLV, I want to do everything I can to help those who have FeLV positive babies. My Tigger will be in my heart forever, as you know :) Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf

Re: [Felvtalk] Removing an Eye....

2016-10-04 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
     On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 03:29 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote:    > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit

Re: [Felvtalk] Removing an Eye....

2016-10-04 Thread Margo
This double-posted message is blank for me. -Original Message- >From: ROBERT CHAPEL >Sent: Oct 4, 2016 4:23 AM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Removing an Eye > > >  >  > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 03:29

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread dlgegg
lI like this. We could have a data base of vets willing to try it. Amani Oakley wrote: > Ardy > > Did you talk to people at Diamond Back Drugs, or did you just order it > online? I am wondering, if you spoke with them, whether they might be willing > to let you

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10

2016-10-04 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Amani... I don't know how things work in Canada but I KNOW that were I a lawyer I would get more cooperation from my vet  As Vets begin to charge more and more and large corporations begin to buy up small practices here in the states the model is now moving toward the downside of human

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 11

2016-10-04 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Amani... I deal with the difficulty of following threats simply by making sure that I scroll through EVERY message in the mailing incredible amount of redundancy, yes, but I'm getting good at recognizing early that which I have read before With respect to your last suggestion I

Re: [Felvtalk] Double Posted Blank Message...

2016-10-04 Thread dlgegg
I would hate to have to make this decision. ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Margo: It is often frustrating posting here because ( perhaps depending on the internet provider, or the type of computer or OS someone is using) a lot of messages post differently ( eg ALL of

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
I must say I am somewhat insulted by these comments. I will leave it at that. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: October-04-16 11:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL Subject:

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
No Robert - my experience with my vets began well before I became a lawyer. And a lawsuit against a vet would go nowhere, Robert. For a lawsuit to happen, you need two things: to prove negligence, and then to prove damages. Under the law, animals are still considered property, so suing because

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread dlgegg
Could it be that they are afraid that if they let us use Wenstrol and it fails we will blame them (Sue them) and they are trying to protect themselves from a lawsuit? Just a thought. I also think they resent our telling them what to do. Amani Oakley wrote: >

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10

2016-10-04 Thread dlgegg
You have hit it on the nailhead.! ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Amani... I don't know how things work in Canada but I KNOW that were I a lawyer I would get more cooperation from my vet  As Vets begin to charge more and more and large corporations begin to buy up small

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy Did you talk to people at Diamond Back Drugs, or did you just order it online? I am wondering, if you spoke with them, whether they might be willing to let you know which vets have ordered Winstrol from them, and explain that there are lots of people looking for vets who are familiar with

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread dlgegg
With some vets we have to get aggressive for the sake of our babies. Either that or change vets. My problem is that being in a small town, we don't have may vets to choose from. My current vet seems more agreeable than the last one plus she is not always out on a farm call when I need her.