Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread marlene melpignano
Dear all, Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats. What is better, pills or injections? I thought of pills to cau

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread dlgegg
Prayers for you and your baby. marlene melpignano wrote: > Dear all, > Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I > found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome > myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for f

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Pills. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of marlene melpignano Sent: November-02-17 6:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help Dear all, Good new

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread kresch831
Good Morningh all-- I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regarding Winstrol/Stargate. I began following when my feral-turned-wonderful-domestic Tuxedo, Zorro, became ill with FeLV. We tried the Prednisolone route and he perked up for a week or so but then just slept more and more

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Marlene, I should really say that I have never used the injectable form but it is injected intramuscularly and doesn’t last very long, and will be far less convenient to give than the pills. As I mentioned in a previous response, the effect on the liver appears to be transitory and fades after

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Ken I couldn’t agree with you more, but I fear that the scientific/medical evidence is thin because of the really stupid study done a decade ago, which gave three cats massive doses of Winstrol (same levels as given to sled dogs) and reported the resulting elevation of liver enzymes. And the

Re: [Felvtalk] erasing redundant posts...

2017-11-02 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
PLEASE folks... A lot of us could be missing important information while leafing through 20 previously posted messages and not noticing the ONE that is new... It is frustrating sometimes that I will go to the trouble of deleting everything and then see it reappear anyway I don't get it

Re: [Felvtalk] Stargate?

2017-11-02 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
An odd name for a drug... but... terrific if it really is Stanazalol and you can get hold of it... Your Kitty is lucky to have an owner so commited to his survival... I am hoping hard that all your kind effort pays off... he AND you deserve it. I don't know that it makes a difference which m

Re: [Felvtalk] Stargate?

2017-11-02 Thread Sandy
The Androgen Group-Anabolic Steroids Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith Print Article | Email Article This is from the Drs. Fosters & Smith website - for anyone interested Sandy W These compounds are related to the male hormone testosterone. They are re

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol....

2017-11-02 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Hi Ken... I well know the experience of lying with a cat dying of Felv until they passed and these posts are reawakening my own sadnesss and frustration at being able to do so little so late with my own two FelV boys.  It is SO difficult for me to grasp the level of opposition to Winstrol on th

[Felvtalk] Stargate and Microbo

2017-11-02 Thread marlene melpignano
Dear all, I went to France today, to an oncologic clinic, although I was very uncertain on what's better for my cat. But I think Microbo deserves a proper diagnosis in case there is still hope for treatments. The French vet explained me that he would not suffer for the exam of his bone marrow si

Re: [Felvtalk] an experiment

2017-11-02 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
After imploring all of you to delete redundant posts before posting your notes to the group, I noticed that my last two posts ( where I DID this) STILL had all the redundant posts included in the post.   I tend to use REPLY all when responding...and, in turn, seeing my post twice.  This ti

Re: [Felvtalk] erasing redundant posts...

2017-11-02 Thread Lorrie
THANK YOU BOB. I have repeatedly asked people in all my cat groups to delete old messages and change the subject on the subject line when the topic changes. I think you and I are the only ones doing this! BTW, I run Linux, not Microsoft, and it is easy for me to do this, I wonder if it is diffic

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol....

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Bob When I was treating Zander, all the vets were using prednisone on cats, so that is what I used on Zander. I don’t agree it is useless. I have used prednisone on other cats, with good result. However, I now understand that prednisolone is a derivative of prednisone and is better and safer

[Felvtalk] FW: Stargate?

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Sandy I cannot tell you how happy your post, below, makes me. Much of what is in the Drs. Fosters & Smith website, sounds like it was taken from my hundreds of posts, verbatim. I feel a little vindicated, because most of this stuff I worked out on my own by observation, lab testing, researching

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stargate?

2017-11-02 Thread Sandy
sure happy to know that article is a good thing for "us". Just happened to pop-up Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Amani Oakley" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 6:58:29 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stargate? Sandy I cannot tell you how happ

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 8

2017-11-02 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Amani... I think I overstated myself with the prednisone... IThe explanation I got was that the active metabolite of prednisone is prednisolone which actually does the work and the animal needs to be able to make this conversion There appears to be some question as to the feline ability to