Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
Wow, Kellythat place seems wonderful...except for the fact that I could almost DOUBLE their feline count with just my houseful, lol! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 17:38:28 -0600 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Hi Lorrie, If you have enough money to provide for them, may I suggest The Stevenson Center at Texas AM? http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/It is not cheap but is a safe place for pets to go and live in a home like environment, has vet students who live there, each pet has a personal wellness plan, if you are unable to care for them but still alive (nursing home or etc) you can visit. I have been there and it is a very nice place...right beside the small animal clinic. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
It is pretty wonderful, but not at all cheap. I doubt anyone unless they were really really well-off would send more than maybe 1-3 animals there. They are a really great option for birds, since so many birds outlive their people. On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow, Kellythat place seems wonderful...except for the fact that I could almost DOUBLE their feline count with just my houseful, lol! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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i WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CAN DO SUCH A THING. I know I am a bit of a pushover when it comes to animals and children who are nt able to defend themselves from people's cruelty, but I would rather starve myself than to let my babies do without food or care. Maybe we should start a prayer chain for all those people, that they will have a change of heart. Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, my Portia came back to me (I had fostered her when she was trapped pregnant)...she was part of a group of 20 cats dumped behind a local library when her human was evicted/foreclosed on...she was in pathetic shape and we were unsure any of her kittens would survive. Long story short, I was with her when she delivered three precious little bundleswho eventually went up for adoption. Portia was deemed unadoptable because she was terrified of humans and would lash out at anyone who violated her personal spaceso she was sent by the rescue group to a sanctuary in South FL.that I was assured was wonderfulimagine my horror a month later when said sanctuary was raided and shut down by law enforcementunsanitary, no medical care, experimentationsugh. I immediately contacted the group that sent her there and told them I was going to the place the next day and they had BETTER have contacted them to arrange for me to take her back. During her month in that sanctuary she had lost another pound (she was underweight to begin with), had a broken canine and respiratory infection, and was even more traumatized than when I had first taken her in. She has been with me now just a little under a year since that dayand actually allows me to pet her now. She was NOT unadoptable...she just needed to find a home that had a bit of patience...I now consider her one of MY cats...but worry about her if something happens to me. I am only 56...but you never know how long your time on earth will be. I am busy trying to set my affairs in order that I will be able to provide for my 10 babies if I should die before them.I wish there were a sanctuary similar to Rustic Hollow here in Floridaor that I could win the lottery and start my OWN sanctuary! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:56:21 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death The trust issue is a big thing with 2 of mine. Annie went through a lot when yher owner died. i think the worst of it was not knowing what happened to her owner. she had been an only cat for 4 years, sleeping on the lady's bed, super spoiled. then she was locked up for 3 weeks with someon coming to feed and change her box. then put in a box and brought to the vet's office and then came to my house where she encontered another cat and 2 new people. she spent the first 2 weeks in the basement, sneaking pu at night to eat and drink. Nitnoy showed up with a bloody 4 stump of a tail. took her to the vet for repairs and shots and spaying and then brought her home to 7 other cats. I later found her tail in the yard and discovered it was a raccoon who did it when one showed up on the deck and looked in the window. she went balistic and nearly killed me trying to get away from him. she is still sensitive about her tail and after almost a year allows me to hold her. That is why I think a place like Rustic Hollow would be good for my girls and boy, they have a home environment to live in. I am also going to send a letter for each one telling about all their personalities, etc. I am doing the letters now just in case. I am 70 after all. I have also arranged with someone to drive them to Rustic Hollow. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: On 12-21, Debbie Bates wrote: Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. I know exactly how you feel All of my 14 cats, with the exception of 2, are afraid of strangers, which is the case with most rescued cats or rehabilitated semi-ferals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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RE: parrots. People should not be allowed ot adopt them unless they uflly understand how long they live and how to properly care for them. My boss had an Amazon conyure name of Baltezar and after 6 years, it became a problem of what to do with him when he was out of town, sometimes for a month or so. I always took him home with me and that was fine until my mother passed and then Mr. B had no one to talk to all day and he became very iritable. Fortunetly, my boss knew a member of the Audobon Society who had a large greenhouse attached to his house for his parrot. He took him there and now he lives secure that he will always have a good home. When Marten passes, Mr. B. goes to another member of the A soc. Also, parrots can be destructive, very hard on woodwork. If angry, they can also inflict damage on their people. We had gotten a new typewriter and when it turned on, it made a sound Mr. B did not like and I ended up with bites on my neck, ears, fingers and spent a good part of the day sitting my chair with my feet on the wastecan with him circling like Indians around a wagon train. Only when my boss got back and took him to his perch, did he calm down. From then on, we left the typewriter turned on to avoid a repeat performance. Really, parrots, lions and tigers and wolves should not be taken as pets. They are better off left in the wild where they have the freedom to go where they want and do what they want. Unless you are willing to live according to their rules, don't get one. MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Even though I have picked a person (not a family member) and provided for my guys in my will, I worry too. A lot of people want their pets killed when they dieespecially parot owners. I can't go that route. On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:45 AM, LauraM wrote: I worry about that too. I also have turtles and tortoises that could easily live 50 years or more. I'm 43 so hopefully I have a few good years left, but what will happen when I'm 80 and can't lift a 60 pound tortoise? What if I die in a car accident on the way to Petsmart tonight? We sometimes get large groups of cats or dogs at the shelter who end up there because somebody died and relatives don't want them. One shelter visitor told me that she wants her dogs euthanized when she dies, and that's written into her will. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:56 AM My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Lorrie, If you have enough money to provide for them, may I suggest The Stevenson Center at Texas AM? http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/It is not cheap but is a safe place for pets to go and live in a home like environment, has vet students who live there, each pet has a personal wellness plan, if you are unable to care for them but still alive (nursing home or etc) you can visit. I have been there and it is a very nice place...right beside the small animal clinic. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, my Portia came back to me (I had fostered her when she was trapped pregnant)...she was part of a group of 20 cats dumped behind a local library when her human was evicted/foreclosed on...she was in pathetic shape and we were unsure any of her kittens would survive. Long story short, I was with her when she delivered three precious little bundleswho eventually went up for adoption. Portia was deemed unadoptable because she was terrified of humans and would lash out at anyone who violated her personal spaceso she was sent by the rescue group to a sanctuary in South FL.that I was assured was wonderfulimagine my horror a month later when said sanctuary was raided and shut down by law enforcementunsanitary, no medical care, experimentationsugh. I immediately contacted the group that sent her there and told them I was going to the place the next day and they had BETTER have contacted them to arrange for me to take her back. During her month in that sanctuary she had lost another pound (she was underweight to begin with), had a broken canine and respiratory infection, and was even more traumatized than when I had first taken her in. She has been with me now just a little under a year since that dayand actually allows me to pet her now. She was NOT unadoptable...she just needed to find a home that had a bit of patience...I now consider her one of MY cats...but worry about her if something happens to me. I am only 56...but you never know how long your time on earth will be. I am busy trying to set my affairs in order that I will be able to provide for my 10 babies if I should die before them.I wish there were a sanctuary similar to Rustic Hollow here in Floridaor that I could win the lottery and start my OWN sanctuary! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:56:21 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death The trust issue is a big thing with 2 of mine. Annie went through a lot when yher owner died. i think the worst of it was not knowing what happened to her owner. she had been an only cat for 4 years, sleeping on the lady's bed, super spoiled. then she was locked up for 3 weeks with someon coming to feed and change her box. then put in a box and brought to the vet's office and then came to my house where she encontered another cat and 2 new people. she spent the first 2 weeks in the basement, sneaking pu at night to eat and drink. Nitnoy showed up with a bloody 4 stump of a tail. took her to the vet for repairs and shots and spaying and then brought her home to 7 other cats. I later found her tail in the yard and discovered it was a raccoon who did it when one showed up on the deck and looked in the window. she went balistic and nearly killed me trying to get away from him. she is still sensitive about her tail and after almost a year allows me to hold her. That is why I think a place like Rustic Hollow would be good for my girls and boy, they have a home environment to live in. I am also going to send a letter for each one telling about all their personalities, etc. I am doing the letters now just in case. I am 70 after all. I have also arranged with someone to drive them to Rustic Hollow. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: On 12-21, Debbie Bates wrote: Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. I know exactly how you feel All of my 14 cats, with the exception of 2, are afraid of strangers, which is the case with most rescued cats or rehabilitated semi-ferals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The sanctuary is CW Rustic Hollow Shelter. Here is the link to their web site. http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Here is the link to Carmine's blog. http://rustichollowshelter.blogspot.com/ They are also on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120675831301272 They have several buildings and have a place for FIV and FeLV+ kitties. Check out their Safety Net program. I have visited this sanctuary and can not say enough good things about it. I sponsor Mr,. Scamper, a CH kitty. I am making them the beneficiary of my life insurance for my cats. I recommend you visit any sanctuary before making plans for your cats. By the way dlgegg, it is really hard to read your posts when you type in all caps. Sharyl --- On Tue, 12/21/10, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 7:17 PM HELLO LAURIE, THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND I HAVE FOUND A RESCUE IN IOWA, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME NOW, BUT CAN DIG OUT THE INFORMATION IF YOU WANT IT. HAVE CHECKED THEM OUT AND THEY SEEM RIGHT FOR MY BABIES WHO ARE SPOILED, HAVE THE RUN OF THE HOUSE. I KNOW I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FIND ANYONE WILLING TO TAKE ON 7 CATS WHOSE AGES RUN FROM 12 TO 1 YEAR. MY VET BILLS THIS LAST YEAR HAVE BEEN RATHER HIGH, BUT I WILL NOT LET THEM SUFFER BECAUSE OF MONEY. JUST HAVE TO TIGHTEN THE BELT AND EAT LESS. THEY HAVE AN OLD FARMHOUSE FULLY FURNISHED AND THE CATS EACH HAVE THEIR OWN CHAIR, COUCH, BED AND A SCREENED IN PORCH TO OBSERVE THE OUTDOORS. THE NAME IS SOMETHING LIKE CEDAR HOLLOW OR CREEK. SOME OF THE OTHERS KNOW ABOUT THEM ALSO. I THINK THEY WERE BUILDING ANOTHER HOUSE FOR THE CATS AND SOMEONE LIVES ON THE PREMISIS TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. I HAVE ALREADY TOLD MY PEOPLE THEY WILL HAVE TO DRIVE THEM THERE, ABOUT 5 HOURS DRIVE. THEY HAVE AGREED. THEY CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THEM AS MARY HAD A STROKE AT AGE 49 THIS YEAR AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE LITTER BOXES AND FOOD BOWLS. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THEM ON AND IT IS A BIT MUCH TO DUMP 7 CATS ON SOMEONE. MY ONLY OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO LIVE TO 100 AND THEN WE COULD ALL GO AT THE SAME TIME. COURSE, BY THEN I WOULD HAVE TAKEN IN NEW CATS. CANNOT SAY NO TO STRAYS, DOGS OR CATS. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I do know that each state has it's own laws on the matter, but will bring it up to her. Would she be allowed to join the website in order to do that? --- On Tue, 12/21/10, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:10 PM Perhaps you could get her to address the question on line in very general terms of courseone can't practise law where one is not licensed. On Dec 21, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Lorrie wrote: On 12-21, tamara stickler wrote: I don't know if this helps, but we just had an attorney move into the corporate center that I manage, who specializes in pet trusts. She is licensed to practice in California and Maryland. ? Would you like her contact information? Tamara Yes, yes, yes, we are only ten miles from the border of western Maryland. Maryland is where we shop. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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from dlg - okay, i thought maybe it would bea easier that way. Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: The sanctuary is CW Rustic Hollow Shelter. Here is the link to their web site. http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Here is the link to Carmine's blog. http://rustichollowshelter.blogspot.com/ They are also on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120675831301272 They have several buildings and have a place for FIV and FeLV+ kitties. Check out their Safety Net program. I have visited this sanctuary and can not say enough good things about it. I sponsor Mr,. Scamper, a CH kitty. I am making them the beneficiary of my life insurance for my cats. I recommend you visit any sanctuary before making plans for your cats. By the way dlgegg, it is really hard to read your posts when you type in all caps. Sharyl --- On Tue, 12/21/10, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 7:17 PM HELLO LAURIE, THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND I HAVE FOUND A RESCUE IN IOWA, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME NOW, BUT CAN DIG OUT THE INFORMATION IF YOU WANT IT. HAVE CHECKED THEM OUT AND THEY SEEM RIGHT FOR MY BABIES WHO ARE SPOILED, HAVE THE RUN OF THE HOUSE. I KNOW I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FIND ANYONE WILLING TO TAKE ON 7 CATS WHOSE AGES RUN FROM 12 TO 1 YEAR. MY VET BILLS THIS LAST YEAR HAVE BEEN RATHER HIGH, BUT I WILL NOT LET THEM SUFFER BECAUSE OF MONEY. JUST HAVE TO TIGHTEN THE BELT AND EAT LESS. THEY HAVE AN OLD FARMHOUSE FULLY FURNISHED AND THE CATS EACH HAVE THEIR OWN CHAIR, COUCH, BED AND A SCREENED IN PORCH TO OBSERVE THE OUTDOORS. THE NAME IS SOMETHING LIKE CEDAR HOLLOW OR CREEK. SOME OF THE OTHERS KNOW ABOUT THEM ALSO. I THINK THEY WERE BUILDING ANOTHER HOUSE FOR THE CATS AND SOMEONE LIVES ON THE PREMISIS TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. I HAVE ALREADY TOLD MY PEOPLE THEY WILL HAVE TO DRIVE THEM THERE, ABOUT 5 HOURS DRIVE. THEY HAVE AGREED. THEY CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THEM AS MARY HAD A STROKE AT AGE 49 THIS YEAR AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE LITTER BOXES AND FOOD BOWLS. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THEM ON AND IT IS A BIT MUCH TO DUMP 7 CATS ON SOMEONE. MY ONLY OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO LIVE TO 100 AND THEN WE COULD ALL GO AT THE SAME TIME. COURSE, BY THEN I WOULD HAVE TAKEN IN NEW CATS. CANNOT SAY NO TO STRAYS, DOGS OR CATS. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The trust issue is a big thing with 2 of mine. Annie went through a lot when yher owner died. i think the worst of it was not knowing what happened to her owner. she had been an only cat for 4 years, sleeping on the lady's bed, super spoiled. then she was locked up for 3 weeks with someon coming to feed and change her box. then put in a box and brought to the vet's office and then came to my house where she encontered another cat and 2 new people. she spent the first 2 weeks in the basement, sneaking pu at night to eat and drink. Nitnoy showed up with a bloody 4 stump of a tail. took her to the vet for repairs and shots and spaying and then brought her home to 7 other cats. I later found her tail in the yard and discovered it was a raccoon who did it when one showed up on the deck and looked in the window. she went balistic and nearly killed me trying to get away from him. she is still sensitive about her tail and after almost a year allows me to hold her. That is why I think a place like Rustic Hollow would be good for my girls and boy, they have a home environment to live in. I am also going to send a letter for each one telling about all their personalities, etc. I am doing the letters now just in case. I am 70 after all. I have also arranged with someone to drive them to Rustic Hollow. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: On 12-21, Debbie Bates wrote: Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. I know exactly how you feel All of my 14 cats, with the exception of 2, are afraid of strangers, which is the case with most rescued cats or rehabilitated semi-ferals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I worry about that too. I also have turtles and tortoises that could easily live 50 years or more. I'm 43 so hopefully I have a few good years left, but what will happen when I'm 80 and can't lift a 60 pound tortoise? What if I die in a car accident on the way to Petsmart tonight? We sometimes get large groups of cats or dogs at the shelter who end up there because somebody died and relatives don't want them. One shelter visitor told me that she wants her dogs euthanized when she dies, and that's written into her will. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:56 AM My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We had actually set up a Foundation, but now find that we will change it to a Fund instead. Advice from lawyers was non-existent, I had to find out the hard way. We are also thinking of leaving the house to someone who would continue the work, but again - how does one trust someone to do that - and who should oversee it - it's not easy. What really gets to me, as a rescuer, is how relatives of someone who dies could just ignore their pets, whether it's one or many! I get those calls, and always ask your mother, aunt, uncle, etc. loved the pet(s), don't you feel some kind of responsibility to care for them? It falls on dead ears. When my mother died, I couldn't take her cats because they were elderly, used to their spaces, some very skittish rescues...I tried contacting Chicago rescue groups, not to place them, but to see if anyone there might be interested in taking care of them. Two young women and a man from a well-known group (Treehouse) happened to be at a conference on the East Coast, and came to be interviewed. All seemed fine, until he found out that there was a basement and that he could play his drums thereneed I say more? Through a friend, I found a woman who had her own 12 cats and needed to move - bingo! There's only one cat left now, and I could easily bring him here, but at almost 18, Arsenio is too old, and I might as well wait until he dies without disrupting his life. I also contacted veterinarians in the area. The thing to watch for is someone who wants free boarding and may not take good care of the animals. There must be someone to oversee them, too - but who? A lawyer who doesn't know squat about cat care? We have the cats and dog in our will, but there are so many details to think of, and you know that something will be forgotten! Whenever I get a call from someone whose relative died, all of this comes into focus again. And I don't have all the answers. Maybe we could all pool our thoughts on this Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Have you considered setting up a trust and including the house in the trust. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 5:47 AM We had actually set up a Foundation, but now find that we will change it to a Fund instead. Advice from lawyers was non-existent, I had to find out the hard way. We are also thinking of leaving the house to someone who would continue the work, but again - how does one trust someone to do that - and who should oversee it - it's not easy. What really gets to me, as a rescuer, is how relatives of someone who dies could just ignore their pets, whether it's one or many! I get those calls, and always ask your mother, aunt, uncle, etc. loved the pet(s), don't you feel some kind of responsibility to care for them? It falls on dead ears. When my mother died, I couldn't take her cats because they were elderly, used to their spaces, some very skittish rescues...I tried contacting Chicago rescue groups, not to place them, but to see if anyone there might be interested in taking care of them. Two young women and a man from a well-known group (Treehouse) happened to be at a conference on the East Coast, and came to be interviewed. All seemed fine, until he found out that there was a basement and that he could play his drums thereneed I say more? Through a friend, I found a woman who had her own 12 cats and needed to move - bingo! There's only one cat left now, and I could easily bring him here, but at almost 18, Arsenio is too old, and I might as well wait until he dies without disrupting his life. I also contacted veterinarians in the area. The thing to watch for is someone who wants free boarding and may not take good care of the animals. There must be someone to oversee them, too - but who? A lawyer who doesn't know squat about cat care? We have the cats and dog in our will, but there are so many details to think of, and you know that something will be forgotten! Whenever I get a call from someone whose relative died, all of this comes into focus again. And I don't have all the answers. Maybe we could all pool our thoughts on this Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk
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Great idea.I can't do that with my house because my husband co owns it (and has kids) but I gave my vehicle to the trust (so the cats can get to the guardian who lives in another state) and also a lump sum so the guardian can add on to their house. I made the requirements for ongoing reimbursement VERY loose for the guardian's ease. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Saunders Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Have you considered setting up a trust and including the house in the trust. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 5:47 AM We had actually set up a Foundation, but now find that we will change it to a Fund instead. Advice from lawyers was non-existent, I had to find out the hard way. We are also thinking of leaving the house to someone who would continue the work, but again - how does one trust someone to do that - and who should oversee it - it's not easy. What really gets to me, as a rescuer, is how relatives of someone who dies could just ignore their pets, whether it's one or many! I get those calls, and always ask your mother, aunt, uncle, etc. loved the pet(s), don't you feel some kind of responsibility to care for them? It falls on dead ears. When my mother died, I couldn't take her cats because they were elderly, used to their spaces, some very skittish rescues...I tried contacting Chicago rescue groups, not to place them, but to see if anyone there might be interested in taking care of them. Two young women and a man from a well-known group (Treehouse) happened to be at a conference on the East Coast, and came to be interviewed. All seemed fine, until he found out that there was a basement and that he could play his drums thereneed I say more? Through a friend, I found a woman who had her own 12 cats and needed to move - bingo! There's only one cat left now, and I could easily bring him here, but at almost 18, Arsenio is too old, and I might as well wait until he dies without disrupting his life. I also contacted veterinarians in the area. The thing to watch for is someone who wants free boarding and may not take good care of the animals. There must be someone to oversee them, too - but who? A lawyer who doesn't know squat about cat care? We have the cats and dog in our will, but there are so many details to think of, and you know that something will be forgotten! Whenever I get a call from someone whose relative died, all of this comes into focus again. And I don't have all the answers. Maybe we could all pool our thoughts on this Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care
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I don't know if this helps, but we just had an attorney move into the corporate center that I manage, who specializes in pet trusts. She is licensed to practice in California and Maryland. Would you like her contact information? Tamara --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 8:47 AM We had actually set up a Foundation, but now find that we will change it to a Fund instead. Advice from lawyers was non-existent, I had to find out the hard way. We are also thinking of leaving the house to someone who would continue the work, but again - how does one trust someone to do that - and who should oversee it - it's not easy. What really gets to me, as a rescuer, is how relatives of someone who dies could just ignore their pets, whether it's one or many! I get those calls, and always ask your mother, aunt, uncle, etc. loved the pet(s), don't you feel some kind of responsibility to care for them? It falls on dead ears. When my mother died, I couldn't take her cats because they were elderly, used to their spaces, some very skittish rescues...I tried contacting Chicago rescue groups, not to place them, but to see if anyone there might be interested in taking care of them. Two young women and a man from a well-known group (Treehouse) happened to be at a conference on the East Coast, and came to be interviewed. All seemed fine, until he found out that there was a basement and that he could play his drums thereneed I say more? Through a friend, I found a woman who had her own 12 cats and needed to move - bingo! There's only one cat left now, and I could easily bring him here, but at almost 18, Arsenio is too old, and I might as well wait until he dies without disrupting his life. I also contacted veterinarians in the area. The thing to watch for is someone who wants free boarding and may not take good care of the animals. There must be someone to oversee them, too - but who? A lawyer who doesn't know squat about cat care? We have the cats and dog in our will, but there are so many details to think of, and you know that something will be forgotten! Whenever I get a call from someone whose relative died, all of this comes into focus again. And I don't have all the answers. Maybe we could all pool our thoughts on this Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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Frank and I have holographic wills (legal and binding in Texas) and we leave everything, house and insurance policies to our two friends who are also in animal rescue and if, for any reason they cannot move in and take care of our cats, our cats are to NEVER go to a shelter, we would rather them be put down then go into a shelter and an uncertain future :( From: lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:32:54 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Great idea.I can't do that with my house because my husband co owns it (and has kids) but I gave my vehicle to the trust (so the cats can get to the guardian who lives in another state) and also a lump sum so the guardian can add on to their house. I made the requirements for ongoing reimbursement VERY loose for the guardian's ease. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Saunders Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Have you considered setting up a trust and including the house in the trust. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 5:47 AM We had actually set up a Foundation, but now find that we will change it to a Fund instead. Advice from lawyers was non-existent, I had to find out the hard way. We are also thinking of leaving the house to someone who would continue the work, but again - how does one trust someone to do that - and who should oversee it - it's not easy. What really gets to me, as a rescuer, is how relatives of someone who dies could just ignore their pets, whether it's one or many! I get those calls, and always ask your mother, aunt, uncle, etc. loved the pet(s), don't you feel some kind of responsibility to care for them? It falls on dead ears. When my mother died, I couldn't take her cats because they were elderly, used to their spaces, some very skittish rescues...I tried contacting Chicago rescue groups, not to place them, but to see if anyone there might be interested in taking care of them. Two young women and a man from a well-known group (Treehouse) happened to be at a conference on the East Coast, and came to be interviewed. All seemed fine, until he found out that there was a basement and that he could play his drums thereneed I say more? Through a friend, I found a woman who had her own 12 cats and needed to move - bingo! There's only one cat left now, and I could easily bring him here, but at almost 18, Arsenio is too old, and I might as well wait until he dies without disrupting his life. I also contacted veterinarians in the area. The thing to watch for is someone who wants free boarding and may not take good care of the animals. There must be someone to oversee them, too - but who? A lawyer who doesn't know squat about cat care? We have the cats and dog in our will, but there are so many details to think of, and you know that something will be forgotten! Whenever I get a call from someone whose relative died, all of this comes into focus again. And I don't have all the answers. Maybe we could all pool our thoughts on this Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like
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I have trustees who I know will do the best thing for my cats. They are friends (and a bank for the financial part). 2 friends so they can outvote the bank if needed. I have a guardian and successor guardian. The trustees should be the ones keeping an eye on things. Better is to have a guardian you trust. Mine are my best friend and my brother (successor). Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:18 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death I don't know if this helps, but we just had an attorney move into the corporate center that I manage, who specializes in pet trusts. She is licensed to practice in California and Maryland. Would you like her contact information? Tamara --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 8:47 AM We had actually set up a Foundation, but now find that we will change it to a Fund instead. Advice from lawyers was non-existent, I had to find out the hard way. We are also thinking of leaving the house to someone who would continue the work, but again - how does one trust someone to do that - and who should oversee it - it's not easy. What really gets to me, as a rescuer, is how relatives of someone who dies could just ignore their pets, whether it's one or many! I get those calls, and always ask your mother, aunt, uncle, etc. loved the pet(s), don't you feel some kind of responsibility to care for them? It falls on dead ears. When my mother died, I couldn't take her cats because they were elderly, used to their spaces, some very skittish rescues...I tried contacting Chicago rescue groups, not to place them, but to see if anyone there might be interested in taking care of them. Two young women and a man from a well-known group (Treehouse) happened to be at a conference on the East Coast, and came to be interviewed. All seemed fine, until he found out that there was a basement and that he could play his drums thereneed I say more? Through a friend, I found a woman who had her own 12 cats and needed to move - bingo! There's only one cat left now, and I could easily bring him here, but at almost 18, Arsenio is too old, and I might as well wait until he dies without disrupting his life. I also contacted veterinarians in the area. The thing to watch for is someone who wants free boarding and may not take good care of the animals. There must be someone to oversee them, too - but who? A lawyer who doesn't know squat about cat care? We have the cats and dog in our will, but there are so many details to think of, and you know that something will be forgotten! Whenever I get a call from someone whose relative died, all of this comes into focus again. And I don't have all the answers. Maybe we could all pool our thoughts on this Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own
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Even though I have picked a person (not a family member) and provided for my guys in my will, I worry too. A lot of people want their pets killed when they dieespecially parot owners. I can't go that route. On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:45 AM, LauraM wrote: I worry about that too. I also have turtles and tortoises that could easily live 50 years or more. I'm 43 so hopefully I have a few good years left, but what will happen when I'm 80 and can't lift a 60 pound tortoise? What if I die in a car accident on the way to Petsmart tonight? We sometimes get large groups of cats or dogs at the shelter who end up there because somebody died and relatives don't want them. One shelter visitor told me that she wants her dogs euthanized when she dies, and that's written into her will. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:56 AM My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 12-21, LauraM wrote: I worry about that too. I also have turtles and tortoises that could easily live 50 years or more. I'm 43 so hopefully I have a few good years left, but what will happen when I'm 80 and can't lift a 60 pound tortoise? What if I die in a car accident on the way to Petsmart tonight??We sometimes get large?groups of cats or dogs at the shelter who end up there because somebody died and relatives don't want them. One shelter visitor told me that she wants her dogs euthanized when she dies, and that's written into her will. I've thought of having them euthanized when I die, but some of them are only 3 or 4 years old. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 12-21, Debbie Bates wrote: Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. I know exactly how you feel All of my 14 cats, with the exception of 2, are afraid of strangers, which is the case with most rescued cats or rehabilitated semi-ferals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 12-21, tamara stickler wrote: I don't know if this helps, but we just had an attorney move into the corporate center that I manage, who specializes in pet trusts. She is licensed to practice in California and Maryland. ? Would you like her contact information? Tamara Yes, yes, yes, we are only ten miles from the border of western Maryland. Maryland is where we shop. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lorrie, Her name is Lindsay Harrell, Lindsay Harrell l...@harrellatlaw.com; Her new office is in the Havre de Grace Corporate Center 224 N Washington Street Havre de Grace, MD 21078 She will be starting here full time as of the week of Jan. 3rd, but feel free to contact her via e-mail. Her phone (once we get it up and running) 410-939-1001 T --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 5:29 PM On 12-21, tamara stickler wrote: I don't know if this helps, but we just had an attorney move into the corporate center that I manage, who specializes in pet trusts. She is licensed to practice in California and Maryland. ? Would you like her contact information? Tamara Yes, yes, yes, we are only ten miles from the border of western Maryland. Maryland is where we shop. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Perhaps you could get her to address the question on line in very general terms of courseone can't practise law where one is not licensed. On Dec 21, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Lorrie wrote: On 12-21, tamara stickler wrote: I don't know if this helps, but we just had an attorney move into the corporate center that I manage, who specializes in pet trusts. She is licensed to practice in California and Maryland. ? Would you like her contact information? Tamara Yes, yes, yes, we are only ten miles from the border of western Maryland. Maryland is where we shop. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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HELLO LAURIE, THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND I HAVE FOUND A RESCUE IN IOWA, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME NOW, BUT CAN DIG OUT THE INFORMATION IF YOU WANT IT. HAVE CHECKED THEM OUT AND THEY SEEM RIGHT FOR MY BABIES WHO ARE SPOILED, HAVE THE RUN OF THE HOUSE. I KNOW I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FIND ANYONE WILLING TO TAKE ON 7 CATS WHOSE AGES RUN FROM 12 TO 1 YEAR. MY VET BILLS THIS LAST YEAR HAVE BEEN RATHER HIGH, BUT I WILL NOT LET THEM SUFFER BECAUSE OF MONEY. JUST HAVE TO TIGHTEN THE BELT AND EAT LESS. THEY HAVE AN OLD FARMHOUSE FULLY FURNISHED AND THE CATS EACH HAVE THEIR OWN CHAIR, COUCH, BED AND A SCREENED IN PORCH TO OBSERVE THE OUTDOORS. THE NAME IS SOMETHING LIKE CEDAR HOLLOW OR CREEK. SOME OF THE OTHERS KNOW ABOUT THEM ALSO. I THINK THEY WERE BUILDING ANOTHER HOUSE FOR THE CATS AND SOMEONE LIVES ON THE PREMISIS TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. I HAVE ALREADY TOLD MY PEOPLE THEY WILL HAVE TO DRIVE THEM THERE, ABOUT 5 HOURS DRIVE. THEY HAVE AGREED. THEY CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THEM AS MARY HAD A STROKE AT AGE 49 THIS YEAR AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE LITTER BOXES AND FOOD BOWLS. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THEM ON AND IT IS A BIT MUCH TO DUMP 7 CATS ON SOMEONE. MY ONLY OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO LIVE TO 100 AND THEN WE COULD ALL GO AT THE SAME TIME. COURSE, BY THEN I WOULD HAVE TAKEN IN NEW CATS. CANNOT SAY NO TO STRAYS, DOGS OR CATS. MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Even though I have picked a person (not a family member) and provided for my guys in my will, I worry too. A lot of people want their pets killed when they dieespecially parot owners. I can't go that route. On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:45 AM, LauraM wrote: I worry about that too. I also have turtles and tortoises that could easily live 50 years or more. I'm 43 so hopefully I have a few good years left, but what will happen when I'm 80 and can't lift a 60 pound tortoise? What if I die in a car accident on the way to Petsmart tonight? We sometimes get large groups of cats or dogs at the shelter who end up there because somebody died and relatives don't want them. One shelter visitor told me that she wants her dogs euthanized when she dies, and that's written into her will. --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:56 AM My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
