Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 23 Jun 2005, at 1:09 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: but who even owns a C-melody now? Scott Robinson. He even has a record where he only plays C-melody. (It's really good, too.) http://home.earthlink.net/~smoulden/scott/melody.html But yeah, clearly it's a niche instrument. I'd say

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Darcy James Argue wrote: I'd say Tuba, French Horn, Fender Rhodes, GPO Jazz/Big Band already has Rhodes piano. It does not say Rhodes piano, it says, according to the site, http://garritan.com/jazz.html, Vintage Electric Piano. That could be anything. Could be a Yamaha DX7 for all I know.

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 23 Jun 2005, at 2:28 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: I'd say Tuba, French Horn, Fender Rhodes, GPO Jazz/Big Band already has Rhodes piano. It does not say Rhodes piano, it says, according to the site, http://garritan.com/jazz.html, Vintage Electric Piano. That could

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Ken Durling
At 12:14 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote: Could be a Yamaha DX7 for all I know. Vintage Electric Piano does not equal Fender Rhodes. It could be a RMI Electra-Piano, a Wurlitzer, I could go on... As long as we're picking nits ;-) I would never classify a DX7 as an Electric Piano, it's a synth.

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 23, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: (snip) the GPO Jazz/Big Band is missing tuba, mallets on the drum set, and acoustic guitar. I am partial myself to the tuba (heh, heh, because I actually play jazz tuba. Jim Self would be the guy to sample for jazz tuba, though!) but

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson
This issue of long-standing bugs being fixed points up a feature listed on the website that greets me with dismay. That is the Studio View Powerful Mixer feature. Some on this list are already salivating at the thought, but for all its possible value, I believe it is a rueful step. That is

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Robert, I am in agreement with you about the direction of the developments. I think people like you (and me) think we are the market for MM. Unfortunately, we are probably a small portion of it. Still, there are folks at MM who would like to see us satisfied, and they do want to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread James E. Bailey
It saddens me as well. They're trying to compete with Sibelius for the school market, and (to their mind) make composition on the computer easier to teach and do with these features. I, like probably most people on this list, would rather have a program that worked really well, but was limited

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread richard.bartkus
The only purpose I have for playback is note checking. The mixer, GPO functionality etc. is a nice to have but not worth much to me as a tool; only as a toy (an expensive toy - LOL). But, I also realize that MM needs to have enough revenue to support RD, and that means they have to appeal to

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/06/23 / 03:14 AM wrote: Jazz violin is actually much more common than C-Melody sax. There are lots of jazz violinists in NYC, so I'm sure there are at least a few in the Bay Area. Jazz violin trend is happening only last few years on this side of coast. What I mean

Re: [Finale] FinMac2005b Tiger problem

2005-06-23 Thread Stan Lord
I've been saving this old email for the time I got Tiger - which was yesterday. However, this solution to the missing fonts doesn't seem to work for me. I did a search for com.apple.ATS which turned out to be a folder. I dragged it to Trash and restarted. No difference. Deleted Trash and

RE: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Williams, Jim
RPThis issue of long-standing bugs being fixed points up a feature listed on the website that greets me with dismay. That is the Studio View Powerful Mixer feature. Some on this list are already salivating at the thought, but for all its possible value, I believe

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 23 Jun 2005, at 11:52 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: By the way, I am still waiting Gary to respond to my GPO registration issue but to no avail. What's my option? Hiro, You need to talk to NI about registration issues. They handle all the copy protection stuff. - Darcy - [EMAIL

RE: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Phil Daley
At 6/23/2005 12:14 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: That's what I'd call the expected part of the move. The notation technology is MATURE--there simply isn't a great deal of advancement or enhancement left to do. As to bug fixes, a software vendor that squashes every single bug has nowhere to go, so

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/06/23 / 12:24 PM wrote: You need to talk to NI about registration issues. They handle all the copy protection stuff. I know, but the only way to get response from NI is if you are registered. That's why I thought Gary would help me out on this as his welcome email

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Adriel
on 6/23/05 11:52 AM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which brings another question. There got to be a distinction between acoustic and electric jazz violin as you can't say jazz guitar without defining electric and nylon, right? Wait add to that Selmer style and acoustic

[Finale] Finale 2006 new features

2005-06-23 Thread Randolph Peters
Does anyone on the list know what this blurb from the Finale web site really means? New in Finale 2006 - SmartMusic Soundfont playback is expanded from 16 channels to 128. I thought we had 64 MIDI channels (on the Mac) not 16. Does this only apply to the Soundfont? Will we get the full

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006 new features

2005-06-23 Thread Jari Williamsson
Randolph Peters wrote: Does anyone on the list know what this blurb from the Finale web site really means? Yes, but I'm not allowed to tell you. New in Finale 2006 - SmartMusic Soundfont playback is expanded from 16 channels to 128. I thought we had 64 MIDI channels (on the Mac) not 16.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Jari Williamsson
Williams, Jim wrote: That's what I'd call the expected part of the move. The notation technology is MATURE--there simply isn't a great deal of advancement or enhancement left to do. Any software developer who think that there is nothing left to do because the product is mature just isn't

[Finale] 2006 question

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Israels
Do I understand this correctly from the blurb on the MM site? Does Embeded Fonts mean that when you send Finale files, all fonts that are in them will print correctly, whether or not they are installed in the system of the recipient of the files? Sorry if this seems like a naive question,

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:39 PM 6/23/05 +0200, Jari Williamsson wrote: Williams, Jim wrote: That's what I'd call the expected part of the move. The notation technology is MATURE--there simply isn't a great deal of advancement or enhancement left to do. Any software developer who think that there is nothing

Re: [Finale] 2006 question

2005-06-23 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 6/23/05 12:41:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does "Embeded Fonts" mean that when you send Finale files, all fonts  that are in them will print correctly, whether or not they are  installed in the system of the recipient of the files Chuck - I believe it refers to

Re: [Finale] 2006 question

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/05 12:41:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Does "Embeded Fonts" mean that when you send Finale files, all fonts  that are in them will print correctly, whether or not they are  installed in the system of the recipient

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: the addition of better sounds will be nice. Though I just bought the whole GPO through their group buy :-/ An overall MIDI question I've had for years: If I have a snazzy set of sounds on my computer, create a MIDI file with them, and

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Israels
I just looked a little more carefully at the 2006 enhancements and found one thing that will be useful to me: Smart Line libraries. For example, Bill Duncan has created some particularly useful Smart Shape devices that include more elements than Finale has in its libraries, like an 8va

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Ken Durling
Not sure about the question: in the first place a MIDI file isn't made from sounds it' s just computer code. However, you could create a MIDI file which triggers your snazzy sounds and record the end product as a WAV or MP3 file, and post THAT and everyone would hear what you hear. Or am I

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Andrew, MIDI files contain no audio data. They play back using whatever MIDI instruments the person playing back the file happens to have on their computer (or sound card). It's a like a player piano roll -- it plays back using the sound of whatever player piano you feed it through. If

[Finale] Need INVISIBLE chord anchors

2005-06-23 Thread BillSincl
When generating a lead sheet, it is often desirable to have chords that sequence under a fixed melody note. For example, you might have an 8 beat whole note wherea sequence ofchords are changing under it. This is not in keeping with the way finale anchors chords, since it the chord anchor

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 23, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Ken Durling wrote: An Electric Piano I think technically has to have reeds and hammers, or even strings like those stubby little grands made by Yamaha. Well the terminology may have changed, but back in pre-Moog times there were undoubted electric pianos

Re: [Finale] Need INVISIBLE chord anchors

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Israels
Dear Bill,This is something jazz writers need to do all the time, and there are a couple of ways of using layers and staff styles to do this.  The way I do it most often is to enter the notes into layer 2 (while making sure that the document options do not freeze the stems, ties and rests of that

Re: [Finale] Need INVISIBLE chord anchors

2005-06-23 Thread Martin Banner
I do this a lot with adding figured bass in 18th century continuo parts...after inputting the part in Layer 1, I then switch to layer two, add as many rests as I need to match the beat where I have to attach the figures. After assigning the figures (I use chord tool for this), I then go back and

Re: [Finale] GPO Jazz + B. Clarinet

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Andrew, The subcontrabass saxophone does indeed exist -- it's sometimes also called the tubax. It is a relatively new and extremely rare instrument. Photos and more info here: http://www.jayeaston.com/galleries/sax_family/subcontrabass_sax.html - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Don Hart
on 6/23/05 1:48 PM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked a little more carefully at the 2006 enhancements and found one thing that will be useful to me: Smart Line libraries. For example, Bill Duncan has created some particularly useful Smart Shape devices that include

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson
Isn't smart line and custom line the same thing? FWIW: My Settings Scrapbook plugin has been able to transfer custom line libraries for a couple of years at least, in versions of Finale all the way back to Fin2000. -Original Message- From: Don Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
No. Smart line = custom smart shape. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 23 Jun 2005, at 4:47 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Isn't smart line and custom line the same thing? FWIW: My Settings Scrapbook plugin has been able to transfer custom line libraries for a couple of years

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson
So what is custom line? (I thought it too meant custom smart shape.) -Original Message- From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 08:57 PM To: finale@shsu.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look No. Smart line = custom

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
I think some people were confusing custom (smart) line with lines created as shape expressions? (Or perhaps it was just me.) Anyway, I know Settings Scrapbook can already transfer custom smart shape definitions between documents, but it will still be nice to have that functionality built

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Don Hart
Robert, One and the same as far as I can tell. From the Finale manual: Custom lines To create a custom line € Click the Smart Shape Tool W. The Smart Shape Palette appears. € Option-click the Custom Line Tool ¿. The Smart Line Style Selection dialog box appears. Don Hart on 6/23/05 4:04 PM,

[Finale] Re: Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Robert Patterson wrote: This issue of long-standing bugs being fixed points up a feature listed on the website that greets me with dismay. That is the Studio View Powerful Mixer feature. Some on this list are already salivating at the thought, but for all its possible value, I believe it is a

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson
Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: Maybe, but on the other hand, the current situation in which we have little control over the levels of the internal sounds is just plain unacceptable. My lament is that they have expanded Finale's scope: not that they have improved playback. I

[Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-23 Thread Richard Yates
We do not have the list of fixed issues yet, as the program is not yet finished. That list will not be available until the program is shipping. Wouldn't you think that fixes would come before features in a development cycle? Richard Yates ___

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Richard Yates
An overall MIDI question I've had for years: If I have a snazzy set of sounds on my computer, create a MIDI file with them, and post it to the internet, will someone listening to that file over the internet hear the same sounds, or just whatever MIDI sounds their own computer has? The

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Ken Durling
A MIDI file is kind of like a score, really, which needs performers to make it audible - put the same string quartet parts in front of a middle school group and the Emerson Quartet and you're going to have two very different performances! Ken An overall MIDI question I've had for years:

[Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Eric Dussault
Does anybody have a clue on what EMBEDDED GRAPHICS: efforlessly transport files with graphics means? I see no explanation anywhere. By the way here is part of an exchange I've had with Brian fo MM's Macsupport. It makes me afraid that the eps font warning might still be there if the fonts

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006 new features

2005-06-23 Thread Randolph Peters
At 7:31 PM +0200 6/23/05, Jari Williamsson wrote: Randolph Peters wrote: Does anyone on the list know what this blurb from the Finale web site really means? Yes, but I'm not allowed to tell you. [snip] Will we get the full 128 MIDI channels? As I said, not allowed to tell you. I can see

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Tyler Turner
By the way here is part of an exchange I've had with Brian fo MM's Macsupport. It makes me afraid that the eps font warning might still be there if the fonts are not embedded in the eps (which I need). From the forum: SF said... Well I hope that means that we can still have the

[Finale] OT: Shareware Multitrack Audio App for Mac?

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
Okay, it's that time... I need to make an audio demo of an orchestration I've written. As those of you who have GPO for Mac know only too well, my 1.42 GHz Mac mini doesn't have nearly enough horsepower to drive GPO through a large orchestral score ( / 4331 / Timp+Perc / Harp / Solo Vln

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:56 AM 06/23/2005, Robert Patterson wrote: I am extremely concerned that we may have seen the virtual end of notation-related enhancements for a long while.  Well put, Robert. This is my concern as well -- and under 'enhancements' I would include bug fixes as well as new features. One

Re: [Finale] OT: Shareware Multitrack Audio App for Mac?

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 23 Jun 2005, at 11:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/05 10:18:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now I need to combine the two audio files in a basic multitrack audio editor.  But I don't currently own a basic multitrack audio editor.  So -- suggestions?  Cheap

Re: [Finale] OT: Shareware Multitrack Audio App for Mac?

2005-06-23 Thread Don Hart
Darcy, If I have an accurate understanding of what you need and what this program will do, Audacity is what you're looking for. I haven't yet needed to do what you're doing, but in my time with the program it was very intuitive. My experience observing guys use ProTools seemed to help me get

Re: [Finale] Need INVISIBLE chord anchors

2005-06-23 Thread Lynn Gold
I've done this (the layer 2 et al trick), and it works. --Lynn On Jun 23, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Dear Bill, This is something jazz writers need to do all the time, and there are a couple of ways of using layers and staff styles to do this.  The way I do it most often is to