Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread arabushka
...although the books by Piston and Rimsky-Korsakov'll do in a pinch! ajr John Howell wrote: > At 1:14 AM + 9/16/11, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote: > >And does anyone put a "little 15" on top of the > >treble clef when they write for glockenspiel? :) > > > >ajr > > That's also grandf

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread John Howell
At 1:14 AM + 9/16/11, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote: >And does anyone put a "little 15" on top of the >treble clef when they write for glockenspiel? :) > >ajr That's also grandfathered in by tradition. And don't forget xylophone! There are still some things you just have to learn in orche

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread arabushka
And does anyone put a "little 15" on top of the treble clef when they write for glockenspiel? :) ajr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread John Howell
At 3:38 PM -0700 9/15/11, Ryan wrote: >*The "little-8" notation is by far the most exact >(and in theory should be used for piccolo, string >bass, guitar and bass guitar parts, but there's >too much tradition behind the conventional >**notation for those instruments). >* >* >* >I know what you're g

[Finale] [OT] my paper in WORD EVENT - a verbal notation symposium

2011-09-15 Thread SN jef chippewa
anyone near bath UK (next to bristol) next week? i will be giving a paper "Deciphering the degree of precision intended by the composer of a 'text score'" that is part of an ongoing writing / seminar project "new music notation -- score design, function and role". come on out, it'll be a blas

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread Ryan
*The "little-8" notation is by far the most exact (and in theory should be used for piccolo, string bass, guitar and bass guitar parts, but there's too much tradition behind the conventional **notation for those instruments). * * * I know what you're getting at, but wouldn't it be more accurate to

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 Sep 2011 at 17:57, John Howell wrote: [] > Another method--and it may have been Novello--was > to use two treble clefs side by side, presumably > assuming that they would weight twice as much as > a single treble clef and thus sink down an octave > in pitch!! This also conflicted with

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread John Howell
At 1:02 PM -0700 9/15/11, Mark D Lew wrote: > >I can't recall it mentioned in this thread yet, >but there are various ways to indicate that a >treble clef sounds 8vb below. The little "8" >below the clef I think is a relatively modern >development, and I think it's only with the >advent of dig

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread Mark D Lew
Ryan wrote: >I think part of the issue is that treble clef is used with the >properties of the treble8. There's no distinction made between the two >and the tenor voice is essentially treated as a transposing instrument >(sounding an octave lower). That practice is used numerous times for >solo te

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread Mark D Lew
Raymond Horton wrote: >I do recall a small publishing company (name forgotten) in the 1980's that >put out some SATB church anthems printed with Treb,Treb,Bs,Bs clefs, and it >WAS particularly easy to play those on piano (these particular anthems had >conservative ranges, so the leger lines were

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread John Howell
Apologies for not citing the writer, but apparently I didn't save the post I had intended to. Just a small correction for someone regarding the labels usually used for the 9 movable clefs. C on the bottom line is usually called the Soprano Clef. That's the clef Bach used for his soprano vo

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread John Howell
At 12:18 PM -0700 9/14/11, Ryan wrote: >I think part of the issue is that treble clef is used with the >properties of the treble8. There's no distinction made between the two >and the tenor voice is essentially treated as a transposing instrument >(sounding an octave lower). That practice is used n

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread John Howell
At 5:22 PM -1000 9/14/11, Bruce Kau wrote: > >I think as a composer, you need to consider how >your piece will be performed, and make it easier for the performer to >understand, whether or not they are reading for sight-singing or not. >The less time spent explaining everything, the better for the

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread Phil Daley
At 9/14/2011 10:13 PM, Scott wrote: >As for my personal tastes, having performed pieces ranging from the >medieval to the modern, my first choice would of course be the tenor clef. >But, when forced to make a choice between the bass clef and the "treble 8" >clef, I very much prefer reading the

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-15 Thread John Howell
At 9:40 AM -0500 9/14/11, Patrick Sheehan wrote: > >My question is: WHY is this treble "8" clef used in printed >music today when it used to be printed in bass clef most of the time. And, >does this bother anyone else, and do you agree that it should be abolished? Hi, Patrick. Although I'm not a