Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
Yes, I just started doing incremental back-ups, but while I'm working on the score, and sometimes I spend hours without quitting Finale. That is not as good as your method, because if the file I'm working on gets corrupted but stays open, allowing me to edit it, all the saved copies from then

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
I have 2 external firewire drives and a backup software but all the back-up copies were corrupted just the same, both on my computer HD and back-up disks. Can TimeMachine be configured to do incremental back-ups every time I open a file? Harold At 20:40 -0700 07/05/10, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread dhbailey
Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, that is scary all right. Last year I lost a whole score. I only had the original and the backup. Both got corrupted. Thanks for replying. I'm saving as with names like myFile1, myFile2, etc., as David Fenton suggested. Harold Additionally, you might consider

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Fri May 7, at FridayMay 7 11:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I would hesitate to blame this directly on Finale. I am pretty sure this is a Finale issue and not an OS issue. I've never, ever, experienced file corruption using any other

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
At 7:25 -0400 08/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: On Fri May 7, at FridayMay 7 11:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I would hesitate to blame this directly on Finale. I am pretty sure this is a Finale issue and not an OS issue. I've never, ever,

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sat May 8, at SaturdayMay 8 7:53 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: At 7:25 -0400 08/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: On Fri May 7, at FridayMay 7 11:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I would hesitate to blame this directly on Finale. I am

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, May 8, 2010 6:19 am, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, I just started doing incremental back-ups, but while I'm working on the score, and sometimes I spend hours without quitting Finale. That is not as good as your method, because if the file I'm working on gets corrupted but stays open,

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Fri May 7, at FridayMay 7 7:17 PM, timothy price wrote: I have experience the same problem in the past and it has happened when I have somehow messed up by doing illegal commands, or simply made unreasonable requests, I guess you could say, with tools or mass mover or such. First of

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Haroldo, WRT Yes, I just started doing incremental back-ups, but while I'm working on the score, and sometimes I spend hours without quitting Finale. Sometimes I, too, go hours quitting Finale, but I rarely go more than a quarter hour without explicitly saving my work. ns

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread timothy price
Repeat: I have experience the same problem in the past and it has happened when I have somehow messed up by doing illegal commands, or simply made unreasonable requests, I guess you could say, with tools or mass mover or such. The only thing that I could do was to go the most recent

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread timothy price
There is no exact type of error that I have positively identified, but I will give you some examples of what I think may have done it. 1. For instance, if I am working in 4/4 and have occasional measures in 6/8. I decide to insert these 15 or so measures into the piece later on. I copy

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
At 8:05 -0400 08/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sat May 8, at SaturdayMay 8 7:53 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: At 7:25 -0400 08/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: On Fri May 7, at FridayMay 7 11:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I would hesitate

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
At 7:56 -0500 08/05/10, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Haroldo, WRT Yes, I just started doing incremental back-ups, but while I'm working on the score, and sometimes I spend hours without quitting Finale. Sometimes I, too, go hours quitting Finale, but I rarely go more than a quarter hour without

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, May 8, 2010 10:15 am, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Well, yes, I'm doing just that. I'm up to myFile14 after a couple of hours of work! And I've quit 14 times and started again from the most recent saved copy, save as myFile(+1) and work on it. Later I'll trash the older ones, as you do.

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You can modify Time Machine's schedule to be a lot faster than what it usually does (which is every hour or so) On May 8, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: I have 2 external firewire drives and a backup software but all the back-up copies were corrupted just the same, both on my

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread Gerhard Torges
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[Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
This is the third score I've lost. I spent hours of work on this one, and when tried to open it I got this message: While attempting to open file [fileName] the File Manager reported an error. -39 Is there any way of getting it back? I have the autosave on, but the file.asv.mus is gone, just

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread timothy price
Did you not have a copy of the file also? This is usually the case with Finale. Also, I always do a save as, every time I close a file after working on it. That way, I will always have a file that is very recent to revert to if I lose the present one. I may not help your present

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
Yes, I do have a copy saved as. I said that on my post. It gives the same error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the .asv copy and the saved as copy. It seems as if although the file was still open, it was already corrupted when both copies were made. Harold At 18:37

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 May 2010 at 18:11, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: This is the third score I've lost. I spent hours of work on this one, and when tried to open it I got this message: While attempting to open file [fileName] the File Manager reported an error. -39 Is there any way of getting it back? I

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread timothy price
I have experience the same problem in the past and it has happened when I have somehow messed up by doing illegal commands, or simply made unreasonable requests, I guess you could say, with tools or mass mover or such. The only thing that I could do was to go the most recent good file and

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread dhbailey
Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, I do have a copy saved as. I said that on my post. It gives the same error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the .asv copy and the saved as copy. It seems as if although the file was still open, it was already corrupted when both copies were

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Graeme Gerrard
Yes. Sounds like the files are okay (?). Reboot, reinstall Finale, download the upgrades. Reboot. Is you OS up to date? Which version are you running? Try again. You could also try exporting as MusicXML as a further backup measure? On 08/05/2010, at 9:08 AM, dhbailey wrote: Haroldo Mauro

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
At 19:08 -0400 07/05/10, dhbailey wrote: Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, I do have a copy saved as. I said that on my post. It gives the same error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the .asv copy and the saved as copy. It seems as if although the file was still open, it was

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
Thanks, but all of this is unecessary. Won't do. The files are corrupted, period. Maybe export as XML will prevent further losses. I'll try that. Harold At 9:30 +1000 08/05/10, Graeme Gerrard wrote: Yes. Sounds like the files are okay (?). Reboot, reinstall Finale, download the upgrades.

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Repairing permissions isn't going to help Reboot, hold down APPLE and the S key and do the fsck it says to do. On May 7, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: At 19:08 -0400 07/05/10, dhbailey wrote: Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, I do have a copy saved as. I said that on my post. It

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
Guys, Haroldo is suffering from file corruption (error. -39). A quick search of http://support.apple.com reveals the following: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA46648?viewlocale=en_US The -39 error is an End Of File error. The most likely cause of the error is a corrupt data file. The only

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, May 7, 2010 8:07 pm, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Thanks, but all of this is unecessary. Won't do. The files are corrupted, period. Maybe export as XML will prevent further losses. I'll try that. The old save-to-ETF used to fix the file error problems, but it's no longer an option. For

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
Yes, and I am aware of that, but what I don't understand is why three backups of the corrupted file went bad all at once. As I was working on the score, I had three backups, one of them was the auto saved .asv.mus, saved just a few minutes before. Finale became irresponsive and I had to force

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Harold, The file corruption occurred while the document was open, at least 20 minutes before you had to Force Quit. File corruption is invisible -- there is no way to tell it has happened until you try to open files that have been saved after the corruption has occurred. You can continue to

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
In other words, it's a Finale error, not an OS error. Something went wrong while working with your document in Finale, and after that point, everything you saved, by whatever method (autosave, auto-backup, manual save, Save As, etc) was corrupt. Cheers, - DJA - WEB:

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 May 2010 at 22:43, Darcy James Argue wrote: In other words, it's a Finale error, not an OS error. Something went wrong while working with your document in Finale, and after that point, everything you saved, by whatever method (autosave, auto-backup, manual save, Save As, etc) was

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: You save it and in the process, it gets corrupted on disk. When you do that, the previous, uncorrupted version, is renamed to be the backup file, MyMusic.bak. At this point, MyMusic.bak is not corrupt, but MyMusic.mus is corrupt. I can't

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I would hesitate to blame this directly on Finale. I am pretty sure this is a Finale issue and not an OS issue. I've never, ever, experienced file corruption using any other Mac OS X app. But it seems to happen on a fairly regular basis for

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
Yes, that is scary all right. Last year I lost a whole score. I only had the original and the backup. Both got corrupted. Thanks for replying. I'm saving as with names like myFile1, myFile2, etc., as David Fenton suggested. Harold At 22:36 -0400 07/05/10, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Harold,

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You should really also invest in an external drive or something to start using Time Machine. It has saved my butt more times than I can count. And it is transparent... On May 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, that is scary all right. Last year I lost a whole score. I

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Haroldo: I don't have much to offer by way of help in recovering the hours of work you lost, bug for future use, if you don't already, you might consider adopting the practice of incremental back-ups. When I'm working on a large project, the first thing I do each time I open the file, is to