Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
Cornets are actually enjoying a bit of a renaissance on the NYC jazz scene. Dave Douglas, one of the most influential and critically acclaimed trumpet players of the past ten years, has switched from trumpet to cornet as his primary instrument. He was following in the footsteps of a lot of

[Finale] Show Only On Screen

2007-08-25 Thread Ryan Beard
Hi All, FinMac 2007c. I can't find where they moved the Show Only On Screen command. It used to be in the Text Menu. Please help! Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
Daniel Wolf wrote: I have a general aesthetic question for people involved in bands. Is there a rationale beyond the pedagogical for wanting band scores to meet some prescribed contemporary and standardized instrumentation? Might there not be some legitimate musical reasons for omitting

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, as one who can be excessively finicky about which instrument plays what, I swore a long time ago that the word band would never appear on any of my title pages precisely because of its imprecise meaning. It's interesting that MMB Music wrote Wind Ensemble on my

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Daniel Wolf wrote: There is a great deal of continuity between Sousa's instrumentation and that of contemporary bands, [snip] The band membership also included a female vocalist, a violinist, and a harpist as soloists, Heh, heh! My

Re: [Finale] Finale has a mind of its own

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: I have a figure - two triplet 8ths on the downbeat of a 4/4 measure, and every time I copy it vertically (haven't tried horizontal) it changes the remaining rests from a quarter and a half to 2 8ths and a half. What's up with that? Sometimes in the past, changing the

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
MB wrote: [snip] In 1992, Congress enacted a law that made renewal automatic for works published between 1964 and 1978. However, if a work was published [snip] This baffles me, since the 1978 rewrite of the U.S. Copyright law automatically extended the term for works which were then in their

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: [snip] Am I misinterpreting the discussion here? Is my position basically what all y'all were advocating? Or do even university-level and professional bands seldom/never adapt their instrumentation to the music they are playing? I think you would find that the upper

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very often in school bands there's an unspoken requirement that everyone be playing most of the time to keep them occupied. When I wrote my first wind ensemble piece my intent was NOT to write yet another John Cacavas-type excursion into razzle-dazzle, I was roundly

Re: [Finale] Show Only On Screen

2007-08-25 Thread dhbailey
Ryan Beard wrote: Hi All, FinMac 2007c. I can't find where they moved the Show Only On Screen command. It used to be in the Text Menu. Please help! It's the Font Attributes -- Invisible. They took out the Show Only On Screen option. Amazing how they make this program easier isn't it? --

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Aaron Rabushka
I don't know yet--it's only been out a few weeks. The wind ensemble marking was MMB's idea rather than mine. Would you like me ot send you a promo-blurb, David? Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [Finale] Finale has a mind of its own

2007-08-25 Thread Williams, Jim
On PC, they made CTRL-3 a view %, much to everyone's chagrin. You can use numpad 3 for now, but MM seems to understand their mistake have promised to change it in the maint. release. From: dhbailey Sent: Sat 25-Aug-07 8:08 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale has a mind of its

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-25 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
dhbailey wrote: MB wrote: [snip] In 1992, Congress enacted a law that made renewal automatic for works published between 1964 and 1978. However, if a work was published [snip] This baffles me, since the 1978 rewrite of the U.S. Copyright law automatically extended the term for works which

Re: [Finale] Finale has a mind of its own

2007-08-25 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi David, Option and the tuplet definition number still works on the Mac side in Speedy. I'd be surprised if it were missing on PCs. Alt and the number? Chuck On Aug 25, 2007, at 5:08 AM, dhbailey wrote: Chuck Israels wrote: I have a figure - two triplet 8ths on the downbeat of a

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-25 Thread MB
Hi, David. The confusion was probably caused by my not putting quotation marks around the material I was citing, though I said I was quoting from an online text. What you refer to comes from those three paragraphs quoted from a good summary article written by a lawyer at:

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
A tricky situation indeed. While on the topic, what Band publishers are presently accepting submissions? Dean On Aug 25, 2007, at 5:25 AM, dhbailey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very often in school bands there's an unspoken requirement that everyone be playing most of the time to keep

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Hmm, sort of a compromise between Flug and Tpt. Dean On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Cornets are actually enjoying a bit of a renaissance on the NYC jazz scene. Dave Douglas, one of the most influential and critically acclaimed trumpet players of the past ten years,

Re: Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread John Howell
At 10:56 PM -0400 8/24/07, David W. Fenton wrote: On 24 Aug 2007 at 22:29, John Howell wrote: Yes, I understand exactly what you're saying, and of course it's possible to delete instruments from a given ensemble, but you'd have to have a conductor who believes in doing so, and players who

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 24, 2007, at 9:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, in college-level bands, surely the tenor sax majors and many of the altos also double on soprano, so I don't see how that would be incredibly difficult to come by one player for it Any saxophonist worthy of the name can play every

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 25, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: There are also national variations, as I found to my surprise when presented with a piece scored for the standard Maltese band of today, which is so different from the American one that I felt compelled to add this note to the

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:29 PM, John Howell wrote: It's considered prestigious to be the person selected to play the Eb soprano. Same thing is true for the alto, bass, and lower clarinets. When I was in bands (admittedly a long time ago now) it was definitely *not* prestigious to play the

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Aaron Rabushka
And some of the Czech folk bands I saw in Moravia were also interesting--I don't know all of the ins and outs, but tenor tubas of some sort were always there (no problems finding one for my recordings) along wih clarinets, trumpets, tuba, slide trombones, and an occasional valve 'bone. When

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Aug 2007 at 14:34, Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 25, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: There are also national variations, as I found to my surprise when presented with a piece scored for the standard Maltese band of today, which is so different from the American one that

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 25, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Hmm, sort of a compromise between Flug and Tpt. That's the problem right there: there isn't enough space between those two insts. to put in a third. Actually, those proclaiming the death of the cornet are off by a couple of

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread John Howell
At 7:51 AM -0400 8/25/07, dhbailey wrote: Sousa's band didn't march more than a couple of times. At least his civilian band. The Marine Band marched, and the band he led in WWI at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center marched, but his civilian band mostly just played concerts. Hey, they

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread John Howell
At 8:25 AM -0400 8/25/07, dhbailey wrote: It's a very tricky situation, and one that composers have always had to navigate carefully. John Cacavas sold an awful lot of band music. His arrangements have something for everyone and doublings/cues for those situations when the originally

[Finale] Removing alternate clefs indications

2007-08-25 Thread Stephen Ellis
I have downloaded a public domain piece from the Composers Public Domain Library: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Sitivit_anima_mea_% 28Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina%29 I am not sure of the proper terminology, but the finale version (1998) shows the Soprano, Alto, Tenor, and Bass

[Finale] Show Only On Screen

2007-08-25 Thread Ryan Beard
Ryan Beard wrote: Hi All, FinMac 2007c. I can't find where they moved the Show Only On Screen command. It used to be in the Text Menu. Please help! It's the Font Attributes -- Invisible. They took out the Show Only On Screen option. Amazing how they make this program easier isn't it?

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-25 Thread John Howell
At 2:40 PM -0400 8/25/07, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:29 PM, John Howell wrote: It's considered prestigious to be the person selected to play the Eb soprano. Same thing is true for the alto, bass, and lower clarinets. When I was in bands (admittedly a long time ago now) it

Re: [Finale] Removing alternate clefs indications

2007-08-25 Thread John Howell
At 5:13 PM -0400 8/25/07, Stephen Ellis wrote: I am not sure of the proper terminology, but the finale version (1998) shows the Soprano, Alto, Tenor, and Bass clefs to the left of the first staff system on Page One. I would like to remove that, but since I don't know how it was added, I

Re: [Finale] Removing alternate clefs indications

2007-08-25 Thread Stephen Ellis
You are absolutely correct on both counts. I am more interested in the mechanics of how it was added to the score, and how it could be removed. I was told how to remove it off-list (selection tool, click on the object and press delete), so now my question has transformed to how it could

Re: [Finale] Removing alternate clefs indications

2007-08-25 Thread Lora Crighton
--- John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a perfectly ordinary Incipit, showing the original clefs, key signature and mensuration sign. That information is important, and I'm not sure why you want to delete it. I would always include that in any edition of mine, if I knew how

Re: [Finale] Removing alternate clefs indications

2007-08-25 Thread Lora Crighton
--- Stephen Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have downloaded a public domain piece from the Composers Public Domain Library: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Sitivit_anima_mea_% 28Giovanni_Pierluigi_da_Palestrina%29 I am not sure of the proper terminology, but the finale version

Re: [Finale] Removing alternate clefs indications

2007-08-25 Thread John Howell
At 8:25 PM -0400 8/25/07, Lora Crighton wrote: I also include the range when I do an incipit - it is especially useful to let me know if the altos will run into trouble. Very good point! Although if you know the original clefs, those clefs were chosen in the first place to keep each part

[Finale] Scanning printed music into Finale

2007-08-25 Thread Stephen Ellis
Is there a third-party software that will actually allow you to scan music and use it in Finale? Sees like I heard about one some time ago for Windows (but not for Macs). Any thoughts? Steve ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu