Dick Hauser / 07.9.21 / 0:48 PM wrote:
I offered up the crash log but the tech didn't want it. My initial
post included the first bit of it but it's so long, I didn't include
it all. I'll send it to you off list.
I received it. I am not a programmer but here is my guesses.
Your HAL
Forgot to ask. Have you tried removing Finale pref file?
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On 19 Sep 2007 at 14:06, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
The current Finale has been here too long. I believe the last time
Finale had redeveloped from the scratch was v3, and I bet MM! isn't
making enough money for new Finale RD.
I don't think that's entirely true. Finale 97 saw the final switch to
On 9/22/07, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, Kim. This is very interesting. But a bit appalling! I'd hardly
consider this as a conversion when I see all that is lost: beaming,
fonts, layout, figured bass. What happens to articulations and expressions?
Well, sending a from Finale to
A-NO-NE Music wrote:
[snip] If app is crashing and tech support doesn't want crash log is simply
wrong to me.
But having to decipher a crash log would get in the way of their sending
out the practically automatic We can't reproduce that here. replies.
And it might actually involve doing
A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Dick Hauser / 07.9.21 / 0:48 PM wrote:
I offered up the crash log but the tech didn't want it. My initial
post included the first bit of it but it's so long, I didn't include
it all. I'll send it to you off list.
I received it. I am not a programmer but here is my
dc wrote:
Kim Patrick Clow écrit:
I generated sample files for you at
http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/dennis/
The Sibelius file is the original, the converted PDF is marked as Finale.
As you can see, the figured bass gets mucked up a lot, but the note
values are pretty much dead on.
On 22.09.2007 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
No to be honest, and I'll be very happy when I get done with the last
15 finale files. Then that's it for me. I know you have a lot more
than me however!
So tell us, how is your Sibelius experience? Have you found it to be
better, quicker, more powerful,
On 21.09.2007 dhbailey wrote:
In event, the keystrokes are the same to get the same result, mirrors or plain
copying -- shift-ctrl-click USED to put the material in the new measures, but
for the past couple of versions, it is ctrl-click (opt-click, I think, on Macs)
to paste the material
On 22.09.2007 dhbailey wrote:
The only way that files will ever be truly convertible with complete perfection
and complete transparency in the process will be when the two companies sit
down and agree on a file format that both will use. We know that will never
happen.
Well, I am not so
On 21.09.2007 dc wrote:
Can Finale 2007 or 2008 actually open XML files with this plug-in? Or does
one have to go through the lenghty process of creating an empty score with only one staff
and then importing the XML data into this? If not, are there any plans for Finale to be
able to do so in
dc wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
How about bugs?
I've been lurking on the Sibelius list for quite a while now, since I'm
seriously thinking of switching, and there are hardly any complaints
about outright bugs, compared to what one reads here. And then, another
major difference is that in
On 9/22/07, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So tell us, how is your Sibelius experience? Have you found it to be
better, quicker, more powerful, easier to learn?
Yes. Yes, yes, and Yes.
But I know you are a very detailed Finale user, really a top notch
expert, just like Dennis (and
Kim Patrick Clow écrit:
Why, oh why, can't Finale produce decent looking PDF files?
Windows? It does if you Compile Postscript Listing. Whatever method they
use to print to Postscript is flawed, but the compilation is great.
Here's an example from two weeks ago. It has flaws, but they're mine.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 20.09.2007 Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I am having problems in 2k7 mirroring passages using the method to
shift-option-click on the target measure. This doesn't work with
mirroring, it seems, and I am now remembering there was a bug
somewhere. Can someone tell me what
On 20 Sep 2007 at 14:38, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
ThomaStudios / 07.9.20 / 1:44 PM wrote:
So, to the collective wisdom of this list, what are some of your
recommendations on scanners?
I am no scanner expert, but I always buy/recommend HP scanners,
I used to be an HP fan, but a couple of
dc wrote, on 9/22/2007 8:42 AM:
Why, oh why, can't Finale produce decent looking PDF files? Since MM
only reacts if many people complain, I urge all Windows Finalists to
complain about the crappy PDFs produced by Finale.
Here's an example from two weeks ago. It has flaws, but they're mine. :)
periodically there are postings about bell ringing here... does
anyone know what the term is for the middle portion of the bell body?
if i am talking about the thickness, is it the thickness of the WALL
of the bell i would refer to?
cheers,
jef
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shirling neueweise wrote, on 9/22/2007 10:26 AM:
periodically there are postings about bell ringing here... does anyone
know what the term is for the middle portion of the bell body? if i am
talking about the thickness, is it the thickness of the WALL of the bell
i would refer to?
Here's
[Sorry for duplicates, folks; I'm doing some email transitioning, and
one of my addresses isn't registered on the Finale list.]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit:
Here's an example from two weeks ago. It has flaws, but they're mine. :)
Does anybody have an answer to this? I'm still drawing a blank...
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote, on 9/17/2007 9:59 PM:
This must be easy. A colleague also uses Finale Speedy entry, but with a
Midi keyboard. I don't, so can't answer this. It sounds familiar, but
neither of us can find it in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit:
Here's an example from two weeks ago. It has flaws, but they're mine. :)
http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/waam/low-clouds-evening-wind.pdf
You're right, it does look good. So how do you go about producing it? Will
it work with Win2K?
I don't know. It
On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:01 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Dick Hauser / 07.9.21 / 0:48 PM wrote:
I offered up the crash log but the tech didn't want it. My initial
post included the first bit of it but it's so long, I didn't include
it all. I'll send it to you off list.
I received it. I am not
According to michael Good, SIBELIUS provides less information than does
FINALE; thus some of the problems;-(
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Just noticed the following on the SibeliusMusic.com Chat page:
Re: How are Your Scores Playing?
Posted by Daniel at Sibelius - 10:45, 22 Sep 2007
Tony Matthews wrote:
What is worrying is that all the problems with the playback reported by
existing users of the software are
On 22-Sep-07, at 8:42 AM, dc wrote:
Kim Patrick Clow écrit:
I generated sample files for you at
http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/dennis/
Another thing that strikes immediately is the difference in quality
between in the PDFs on screen between Finale and Sibelius.
Why, oh why, can't
On 18-Sep-07, at 9:08 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:44 PM -0400 9/18/07, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Sep 18, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Adam Taylor wrote:
I've seen discussions on this list about binding of score and
parts, as well as printing of parts. I was just wondering what
weight of paper
On 22.09.2007 Christopher Smith wrote:
The Finale PDF is apparently a Windows-produced PDF, and it shows up with grey
lines (instead of black) when viewed onscreen using Preview (the Mac catch-all
viewing program). This seems to be the case with most Windows PDFs I see.
However, when I view
On 22 Sep 2007 at 4:26, dhbailey wrote:
The only way that files will ever be truly convertible with complete
perfection and complete transparency in the process will be when the two
companies sit down and agree on a file format that both will use. We
know that will never happen.
That's
On 22 Sep 2007 at 11:13, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 22.09.2007 dhbailey wrote:
The only way that files will ever be truly convertible with complete
perfection and complete transparency in the process will be when the two
companies sit down and agree on a file format that both will use.
On 22 Sep 2007 at 12:42, dc wrote:
My feeling is that MM never provided backwards compatibility
because they thought this would force users to upgrade.
As a working programmer myself, I see it completely differently.
First off, MM is on a yearly release schedule, whereas Sibelius is
not.
Hi Dennis, Kim, and Johannes,
Wow, lots of MusicXML discussion and questions. Here are some responses:
Has anyone tried converting Sibelius 4 files to Finale
with the Dolet 3 plug-in? There is no demo version, so I'm
wondering how good the conversion is.
We have put up a video on YouTube
On 22.09.2007 David W. Fenton wrote:
The key is that the converter has to understand the native methods
for each part of the conversion. If Sibelius has a native figured
bass capability, then the converter needs to take Finale figured bass
and convert it to that. The problem with Finale is
On 22 Sep 2007 at 14:42, dc wrote:
Kim Patrick Clow écrit:
I generated sample files for you at
http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/dennis/
Another thing that strikes immediately is the difference in quality between
in the PDFs on screen between Finale and Sibelius.
You know, I look at
On 22 Sep 2007 at 16:52, dc wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit:
Windows? It does if you Compile Postscript Listing. Whatever method they
use to print to Postscript is flawed, but the compilation is great.
Here's an example from two weeks ago. It has flaws, but they're mine. :)
On 22 Sep 2007 at 16:50, Christopher Smith wrote:
The Finale PDF is apparently a Windows-produced PDF, and it shows up
with grey lines (instead of black) when viewed onscreen using Preview
(the Mac catch-all viewing program). This seems to be the case with
most Windows PDFs I see.
On 9/22/07, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problems in Kim's example seem to me to have zilch to do with PDF
output and everything to do with input that has not had anything at
all done to it to make it look right.
I'm not sure I follow your point. Did you mean the layout of the
On 22 Sep 2007 at 19:09, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
On 9/22/07, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problems in Kim's example seem to me to have zilch to do with PDF
output and everything to do with input that has not had anything at
all done to it to make it look right.
I'm not
On 9/22/07, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you post a PDF derived from the source Finale file?
Sure thing:
http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/dennis/
I posted 3 new files...
GWV529-Finale.pdf
is a PDF of the Finale file.
GWV529-Sibelius.pdf
is a PDF of the Sibelius first
I am on Windows XP using acrobat pro 7 and I have no PDF problems
whatsoever. You can't blame the PDF output - the problem seems to be the
Preview program on Mac.
At least you ask the question yourself - Another issue for PDF on screen
(actually, I just need it for printing most of the time, and
I have no problems with Finale and PDF on Windows. I use Acrobat pro 7 and
sometimes do 30 PDFs a day. They are crisp and clean. Don't blame Finale -
check your program and settings.
Kurt
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God I'm glad I started this thread. Really - how about MakeMusic and
Sibelius sitting down and discussing their future. I mean, they share most
of the professional (and many less professional, no qualification intended)
users wanting to notate musical scores.
Thinking about some file
On 23 Sep 2007 at 2:34, Kurt Gnos wrote:
Really - how about MakeMusic and
Sibelius sitting down and discussing their future. I mean, they share most
of the professional (and many less professional, no qualification
intended) users wanting to notate musical scores.
Well, companies usually
That is really sad. MakeMusic really needs to get it's ass in gear.
dc wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
How about bugs?
I've been lurking on the Sibelius list for quite a while now, since
I'm seriously thinking of switching, and there are hardly any
complaints about outright bugs, compared
Kurt Gnos wrote, on 9/22/2007 8:04 PM:
I have no problems with Finale and PDF on Windows. I use Acrobat pro 7 and
sometimes do 30 PDFs a day. They are crisp and clean. Don't blame Finale -
check your program and settings.
Can you post a PDF example on your website? One that is *printed* from
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