[Finale] Re: Andrew Stiller

2008-02-19 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 10:41 PM -0800 2/18/08, Nick Carter wrote: Latest news on Andrew Stiller... His wife says that he's back in hospital and feeling rather dispirited so if anyone feels like calling to cheer him up, his no. at the Uni. of Penn hospital is 215 615 4534. Hi Nick, I don't like the

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread dhbailey
Adam Golding wrote: Eric, I have used both Sibelius and Finale. Sibelius is currently faster for me, but I know it somewhat better than Finale---further practice on finale might make it faster for me, on the other hand, further practice might be futile. I agree that each program will produce

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread Chuck Israels
Tried again, even re-installed Finale from the 2k8a updater and rebuilt the preferences yet again, only to have Finale hang up on quit and refuse to re-open again. I am beyond frustrated. Chuck On Feb 19, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi Hiro, Well, for the first time in a

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Hiro, Well, for the first time in a long time, I was able to get Finale to quit without incident. (I am up at 3 in the morning for no reason I can identify, and Finale has been closed and resting awhile.) The more frequent behavior is that it hangs - the screen goes blank, but

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread Darcy James Argue
Chuck, The hang-on-quit is a known problem with all versions of Finale and OS X 10.5.x (Leopard). It is possible to get a clean quit if you use Finale for a very short period of time, but anything more than about 5 minutes or so and Finale gets in a state where if you try to quit, it

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 08.2.19 / 7:20 AM wrote: The hang-on-quit is a known problem with all versions of Finale and OS X 10.5.x (Leopard). It is?!! I know 2008 did that but the 'a' patch fixed it, and I have never experienced it ever since. This weekend, I had to redo many of my onld charts,

Re(2): [Finale] FinMac2008a: Left Channel Playback Only In JABB GPO

2008-02-19 Thread Leigh Daniels
Hiro, So that means I would have to run a cable out of the built-in output into my 2882 to get sound out of my main system??? Thanks a lot, Hiro, now I won't have to waste *more* time troubleshooting. I'll get in touch with MM and complain loudly. **Leigh On Tue, Feb 19, 2008, A-NO-NE Music

Re: [Finale] Help files

2008-02-19 Thread John Howell
At 8:12 AM +0100 2/18/08, dc wrote: Barbara Touburg écrit: Ditch IE... But how do I get the help files to open by default in Firefox, which is my default browser? Dennis That can get tricky, and depends on your platform and what programs you have on it. I discovered that I had to go

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 19, 2008, at 4:20 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Chuck, The hang-on-quit is a known problem with all versions of Finale and OS X 10.5.x (Leopard). It is possible to get a clean quit if you use Finale for a very short period of time, but anything more than about 5 minutes or so and

RE: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread Fisher, Allen
There are actually two problems. The first, where the app simply crashed on exit, but could restart cleanly was fixed with 2008a--that was Leopard, all flavors of mac. There's an additional problem, on Intel Macs, that we're currently looking into. You should be able to get around this one by

Re: [Finale] FinMac2008a: Left Channel Playback Only In JABB GPO

2008-02-19 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Leigh Daniels / 08.2.19 / 10:42 AM wrote: So that means I would have to run a cable out of the built-in output into my 2882 to get sound out of my main system??? Thanks a lot, Hiro, now I won't have to waste *more* time troubleshooting. I just use Built-in for Finale playback. I mean, I don't

Re: [Finale] Invisible Score

2008-02-19 Thread Robert Patterson
Gerry Kirk wrote: But the music is invisible in Score view—all that shows is the title and arranged by. I have also had this problem (with Fin07). I have wracked my brain to try to remember what I did to fix it, but don't remember for sure. But it *may* be that your original score that you

Re: [Finale] Invisible Score

2008-02-19 Thread Mark McCarron
I had something like this when I accidently hit delete while in the staff tool. Undo did the trick. Mark Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerry Kirk wrote: But the music is invisible in Score view—all that shows is the title and arranged by. I have also had this problem (with

[Finale] Re: Andrew Stiller

2008-02-19 Thread Nick Carter
Could you give us a specific address to send cards and letters? ... -=-Dennis I don't have a specific room no., just Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, 3400 Spruce St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 Nick Dr Nick Carter, Owner, npc Imaging, 2228 Magowan Drive, Santa Rosa, CA 95405 USA [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Allen, I'm afraid your solution does not work for me -- even if I cmd-opt-S immediately before I cmd-Q, Finale still hangs on quit and cannot be relaunched short of a logout-login. (This is on a MBP 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo, OS X 10.5.2.) Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn,

Re: [Finale] Re: Andrew Stiller

2008-02-19 Thread Martin Banner
I have been away for a week at a conference and had postings from Finale stopped. Could someone tell me what happened to Andrew Stiller? Thanks, Martin On Feb 19, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Nick Carter wrote: Could you give us a specific address to send cards and letters? ... -=-Dennis I

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Fisher, Allen / 08.2.19 / 0:48 PM wrote: There's an additional problem, on Intel Macs, that we're currently looking into. Weird. I just left a Finale file open for a few hours on my MBP2.4/2GB and hit Cmd+Q. It exited gracefully in a second. If I got a chance, I will retry with loading all

RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Steve Currington
I can't answer based on current experiences or should I say products but I think the answer is .. it depends on how you work and your mental processes - some of which can be modified and some is inherent in ones personality or inbred work habits. I have both (NB I have not upgraded to the recent

[Finale] Congrats Martin

2008-02-19 Thread George Brooke
I just received my packet of new issues from Hinshaw Music and it includes an edition of Credo in D a 8 by Giacomo Puccini (the senior) edited by Martin Banner. Very nice, Martin. Unfortunately my choir is quite up to double choir stuff but we're working towards that capability. I'll definitely

Re: [Finale] Congrats Martin

2008-02-19 Thread Martin Banner
George, Many thanks for your kind email. Yes, the Puccini has recently come off press at Hinshaw. If your choir is not capable of doing double choir, are they able to do similar things from 18th/early 19th Century sacred repertoire? If they are, I'd be happy to send you some of my other

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Exactly. That is why it was a stupid question. One really needs to try them out and come to their own conclusions based on how they do things. Steve Currington wrote: I can't answer based on current experiences or should I say products but I think the answer is .. it depends on how you work

Re(2): [Finale] FinMac2008a: Left Channel Playback Only In JABB GPO

2008-02-19 Thread Leigh Daniels
I just called MM Tech Support and was told it's a known issue and that they are checking with the manufacturers of other products to try to resolve the issue. I let her know that this was a serious problem for me and for anyone doing professional audio and she promised to make a note of that.

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Exactly. That is why it was a stupid question. One really needs to try them out and come to their own conclusions based on how they do things. And here all my teachers told me there were no stupid questions. :-( In defense of the question, he's really asking for

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread dhbailey
Robert Patterson wrote: Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a stupid question. But it is a question that whose answer is very individual. The only reason I chime in here is to mention that if you are not making full use of 3rd-party plugins, and also using a 3rd-party keyboard macro

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Robert Patterson
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a stupid question. But it is a question that whose answer is very individual. The only reason I chime in here is to mention that if you are not making full use of 3rd-party plugins, and also using a 3rd-party keyboard macro program, you have no idea how

Re: [Finale] Re: Andrew Stiller

2008-02-19 Thread dhbailey
Martin Banner wrote: I have been away for a week at a conference and had postings from Finale stopped. Could someone tell me what happened to Andrew Stiller? His wife unsubscribed him from this list way last Summer because of heart health issues. He's currently in the hospital. -- David

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 19, 2008, at 5:33 PM, dhbailey wrote: And here all my teachers told me there were no stupid questions. :-( That's what I say to MY students. There are no stupid questions. Only stupid students. 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing

RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Owain Sutton
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Exactly. That is why it was a stupid question. One really needs to try them out and come to their own conclusions based on how they do things. And here all my teachers told me there were no stupid questions. :-( In defense of the question, he's really

[Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Morabito
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/1/5/1681033/IAC.pdf Thanks to the kindness of gentleman named Kaumann, from the FInale Forums, I have put together the above document, for myself, and someone else, so that I could repeat the steps in the future. In it, I have included all that Kaumann was

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread dhbailey
Owain Sutton wrote: Eric Dannewitz wrote: Exactly. That is why it was a stupid question. One really needs to try them out and come to their own conclusions based on how they do things. And here all my teachers told me there were no stupid questions. :-( In defense of the question, he's

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Adam Golding wrote: yeah i indeed tried the macro route for awhile--setting things up on finale with autohotkey and whatnot--mind you, i could never find an easy way to enter smartshapes from the keyboard--i think i would have to learn the actual plugin

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 19, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Adam Golding wrote: On the other hand, maybe i'm just so addicted to keyboard shortcuts that I can't realize that using the mouse *could* be fast too? I have the same issues with removing articulations. Not to dissuade you from keyboard shortcuts, but

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-19 Thread Mark McCarron
This is a very interesting idea. I'll try it. Mark McCarron Bob Morabito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/1/5/1681033/IAC.pdf Thanks to the kindness of gentleman named Kaumann, from the FInale Forums, I have put together the above document, for myself, and someone

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Morabito
Well said, David.. Peace, Bob Morabito On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:26 PM, dhbailey wrote: Eric Dannewitz wrote: Exactly. That is why it was a stupid question. I have no idea why some people are getting their knickers in a twist over a simple question -- it's not like he insulted anybody's

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 19, 2008, at 4:26 PM, dhbailey wrote: If you don't like a question, hit the delete key. It does nobody any good to say that's a stupid question. I have asked a number of questions here that might have seemed (or been) stupid to anyone with more experience with the issue than I

Re: [Finale] Finale hangs on quit

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Morabito
Thanks so much for this Hiro--it already has saved much much aggravation with Finale-- Peace, Bob Morabito By the way, here is the AUManager I was speaking of: http://www.grantedsw.com/aum/ This is very much needed for Finale since Finale loads AUs those which are not even available to

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-19 Thread Darcy James Argue
What, specifically, is slowing you down in Finale? My general impression is that Sibelius is still somewhat easier to learn, but expert Finale users can work more quickly and more efficiently, especially if you make full use of third-party plugins. Back when I was a regular Sibelius user

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-19 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Bob Morabito / 08.2.19 / 6:46 PM wrote: Finale only allows certain AU's for playback (Sib is MUCH better in this regard)--so I sought a way to use a single instrument setup in Dp (a V rack) as playback for both-- as I couldn't find this information anywhere, I thought Id post it here. If you

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Morabito
I tried this in my initial fumblings with no success-- what are the benefits of doing it this way, over using the IAC bus? It sounds the same, except choosing a different input in DP--is that correct? Thanks Bob PS-Plus the method I outlined isn't really sequencer dependent--do many

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-19 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Bob Morabito / 08.2.19 / 11:55 PM wrote: what are the benefits of doing it this way, over using the IAC bus? Two things. IAC bus is a system bus, meaning an open pipe is laying there, which could cause a MIDI loop if you are not careful. DP's Interapplication MIDI is a virtual MIDI port, which

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-19 Thread Mark McCarron
thanks Hiro Mark McCarron A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Morabito / 08.2.19 / 6:46 PM wrote: Finale only allows certain AU's for playback (Sib is MUCH better in this regard)--so I sought a way to use a single instrument setup in Dp (a V rack) as playback for both-- as I couldn't

[Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-19 Thread Matthew Voogt
Hello Everyone, My name is Matthew Voogt. I am new to the list and would just like to say hello. I have a website called The Finale School (http://www.thefinaleschool.com ). It is a website that is totally free and offers video tutorials about anything and everything related to Finale.

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Morabito
I just tried this now, basing it on my initial setup--when I first tried, I didnt have this: 1) in DP, I changed the inputs from IAC Driver Bus 1-8 to FInale 2008 Outputs 1-8, and setup the Interapplication Midi, With DP Input and DP Output and 2) in Finale I clicked the

[Finale] Invisible Score

2008-02-19 Thread Gerry Kirk
Thanks for your ideas Barbara, Noel, and Robert. I tried all of your suggestions a couple times, and in different sequences. Still no score is visible (yet parts print just fine, and the score is visible in scroll view). Robert, I suspect you are correct that the problem resides in my