Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback
I'm coming to this thread a bit late due to a long holiday, but I have been using Finale for microtonal score creation and playback for about 15 years, so have some experience in the matter. The non-standard key signature feature is superb if you are working with tuning systems in which accidentals represent constant numbers of scale steps within the tuning system at hand and you are either playing back through an external synth with full keyboard tuning facility, relaying it through a a program which adds pitch bends externally (i.e. Midi Relay or InTun), or by adding pitch bends externally to an exported midi file of the score (I use Scala for this). This works fine for temperaments with consistant accidentals and, for just intonation, with those tunings using a pythagorean-based notation system with consistant accidentals for each kind of comma. For microtonal notations in which such consistant elements are not present, for example the just intonation of Ben Johnston, then you're pretty much restricted to adding individual pitch bends as expressions. (For microtonal playback with Garritan, pitch bend requires a different midi command and uses a non-standard numerical value for the bend; I don't use Garritan much so I don't have these at the top of my head.) Three inexpensive notation programs have native microtonal facility and may be more useful to you: Lime uses a table where the intonation of seven nominal scale steps and 28 accidental deviations from these can be set; Mus2, developed principally for Maqam music, has a table for a non-fixeed number of nominal values and allows one to set values for accidental deviations from the nominals; and Harmony Asssistant, a program with a very interesting and powerful interface, allows one to use any number of rules to set the intonation and notation of individual notes or throughout sections of a work. Daniel Wolf composer, Frankfurt ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] RE: Playback in transposed scores while entering notes
On 1/8/2011 12:39 PM, Florence + Michael wrote: [snip] Clearly many of us want the option to hear concert pitch sounds while entering notes in a transposed part. Is somebody from MakeMusic reading all this? Should we all write letters expressing our wish? Someone from MakeMusic is reading this. However, in order to show the people who decide what gets implemented and what doesn't everybody who wants this option needs to contact MakeMusic directly, and get all your friends and relatives and coworkers and everybody you've ever met to do the same. The tech support people log in all the requests for a particular change or addition and if enough people request it, it gets put on the list of things to work on. If only a few people ask for it while lots of people ask for something else, it's the something else that gets worked on. They need some way to triage all the requests since they can't work on them all, so the more requests a particular thing gets, the more likely it is to be implemented. And even though it might seem like a lot of people on this list are requesting it, only about 5 or 6 people have actually participated in the thread, which isn't a very big number given the many thousands of Finale users around the globe. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] blank boxes
On 1/9/2011 10:07 AM, Steve Parker wrote: I've used them to hide bits of staves, bits of notes etc. Things that I want to half hide. For modern scores. How can I get an opaque box? Does anyone have any info on layers? When you say modern scores are you really asking about cutaway scores? They're possible in Finale without messing with opaque boxes -- look in the on-line documentation. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)
On 1/9/2011 8:57 AM, Florence + Michael wrote: In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited. The page sizes menu in the Setup Wizard is constructed from the pagesizes.txt file. On Mac, if you're using Finale 2011, you have to edit the file in the library in your user folder, not in the main library. And the reason they would have two different copies of the same file, one obvious to the user but the one the program really reads from in a different location is . . . ? -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] Score help
On 1/9/2011 4:26 PM, Steve Parker wrote: This was the solution. Who new that there was another score list in the 'Category Designer'?? All but me probably. Actually, probably very few of us, when we started using these newest versions. Every since Finale2009, it's felt like a new program to me, one which I haven't had the time to fully acquaint myself with all the new features of, and I've been using Finale since version 3.5, about 16 years or so. So don't worry when you don't know where half the stuff you need is -- many of the rest of us who have been using the program far longer don't know either. :-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)
The reason for having two copies is to allow different user accounts to have different default settings. When a user starts using Finale, the files are copied to their user library. I don't know which location is more obvious to those not in the know: it may be a problem of the Mac OS that there are similar-looking folders called Library in different places. I think MakeMusic are right to have different copies of the default files for different users, so that when one user edit their defaults the other users are not affected; the problem is that it's too easy to come across the originals of these files and edit them instead of the copies in your user account. If you do this, first of all it won't have any effect on your Finale defaults, and second it _will_ have an effect when somebody subsequently uses Finale for the first time in another account. It would be better if the original default files were contained in the application package itself: then the only default files that a particular user could find and edit would be in their own user account. Michael On 10 Jan 2011, at 10:50, David H. Bailey wrote: On 1/9/2011 8:57 AM, Florence + Michael wrote: In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited. The page sizes menu in the Setup Wizard is constructed from the pagesizes.txt file. On Mac, if you're using Finale 2011, you have to edit the file in the library in your user folder, not in the main library. And the reason they would have two different copies of the same file, one obvious to the user but the one the program really reads from in a different location is . . . ? -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback
On 10 Jan 2011, at 07:31, Daniel Wolf wrote: For microtonal notations in which such consistant elements are not present, for example the just intonation of Ben Johnston, then you're pretty much restricted to adding individual pitch bends as expressions. Hi Daniel, I'm currently using only three up and three down accidentals: 81/80, 25/24 and 36/35. These are consistent unless I'm misunderstanding you? I wish I could run Scala.. I get stuck in UNIXland port installing.. I'm actually much more interested in being able to score intuitively rather than to physically hear anything. I tried the programs you mention but have found them way too slow compared to workflow in FInale. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Measure numbers
On Mon Jan 10, at MondayJan 10 5:06 AM, dc wrote: Christopher Smith écrit: Yes, that one is a very annoying bug! Please open a case with Tech Support so they get more complaints about it, which will move it up the list of things to be fixed. You mean it's still not fixed in 2011!?! Before adding new features, or changing existing features, Makemusic needs to fix these bugs that are almost as old as Finale... Well, technically it's only as old as Include in Measure Numbering, except for when you use Finale's Pickup Measure which causes similar problems. I agree that MakeMusic should address some longstanding bugs, but from what Justin said, they seem to put priority on NEW bugs. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Times New Roman fi fl ligatures
Greetings, I'm new to the list but searched the archives (and Web in general) before asking the list; I apologize if I missed something and this is an overworked topic... WinFin 2011, 64-bit. I have a customer who has specified OpenType Times New Roman for the text font. I checked with MM tech support who confirmed that, contrary to what it says in their Knowledge Base, Finale *will* recognize the first 255 characters of an OT font. My question is, does anyone know how to get fi and fl ligatures given the above constraints? I'm used to working in PostScript (fonts and otherwise), and the OpenType world is new territory for me. I don't see an OT Expert Font on the Monotype website (and they're not responding to my emails asking about this). I hope someone can shed some light, or at least point me to some resources elsewhere I may have missed. --Andy Parks ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Times New Roman fi fl ligatures
On Mon, January 10, 2011 11:01 am, Andrew Parks wrote: WinFin 2011, 64-bit. I have a customer who has specified OpenType Times New Roman for the text font. I checked with MM tech support who confirmed that, contrary to what it says in their Knowledge Base, Finale *will* recognize the first 255 characters of an OT font. My question is, does anyone know how to get fi and fl ligatures given the above constraints? fl and fi are not in the first 256 characters -- they are Unicode FB01 and FB02, and Finale doesn't support Unicode (yet). Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More bugs
Wow! What you are seeing with multimeasure rests are they are resetting to default positioning because you have Update Automatically checked in Document OptionsMultimeasure Rests. Uncheck it. This was introduced in FIN08 I believe...maybe earlier. The other item you bring up I cannot understand what you are talking about. Good Luck, Steve 1/9/11 3:35 PM, Rafael L. Junchaya rjunch...@yahoo.com wrote: I skipped Fin09 and Fin10, just to find there are some more bugs or undesired behaviours in Fin11 than in Fin08, apparently. I found that the the changes in the additional space applied to multimeasure rests do not stay. They actually change at first, just to change back after the next action. And another annoying bug is that even if I define a new rehearsal mark identical to one I am actually using in a score (you don't expect to have different styles in different movements in the same work, don't you?), the last one disappears after I close the file and the numbers continue the former rehearsal expression definition. I have not gone far trying to discover a way to correct this situation, but it is a very annoying and undesired bug. I'd better not use this version longer, or I'll keep finding more weird behaviours... Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale u http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] RE: Playback in transposed scores while enteringnotes
?Thanks for the suggestion David, I hadn't added to the thread - but I too have been bugged by this but done nothing. Now I have. Anyone else can go to: https://www.finalemusic.com/store/login.aspx?t=/rightnowproxy.aspxp_next_page=ask (or http://bit.ly/hf7TgS) to log in and request it too. -Original Message- From: David H. Bailey Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 3:44 AM ...in order to show the people who decide what gets implemented and what doesn't everybody who wants this option needs to contact MakeMusic directly, and get all your friends and relatives and coworkers and everybody you've ever met to do the same. ...if enough people request it, it gets put on the list of things to work on. ... And even though it might seem like a lot of people on this list are requesting it, only about 5 or 6 people have actually participated in the thread, which isn't a very big number given the many thousands of Finale users around the globe. -- David H. Bailey ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Articulations (tremolo slashes) not staying in place
I'm using Finale 2011b on a PC, and I've run into a really vexing problem with tremolo slashes. When I try to apply the tremolo marking to notes written high above the staff (like Violin I) the tremolo sign ends up appearing under the staff. When I click the handle to move it, it immediately jumps to the top of the staff (not where I want it), and then allows me to move it into the staff. Then, when I change the view on the page by scrolling, it jumps back down to under the staff. Any ideas? Steve Larsen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Smart Score: worth the price?
Dear List, The other day I had a cut-and-paste catastrophe involving some files; in moving from computer-to-flash-to-computer, some didn't make it, and I ended up having to recreate a lot of extracted, fully laid-out parts from scratch. I DID have pdfs of all the files that I had created using CutePdf, which I highly recommend; we use the Pro version at Sarasota Opera, but the free version has nice features if all you're looking to do is create them. At any rate, I had a moment where I thought, maybe I could print, scan, and use SmartScoreLite take a crack at them. But then I read the description and saw that it would leave too many things to fix. I didn't try it, anyway, though, so I only have my impression to go on. The upgrade price gave me sticker shock and I immediately closed the browser window rather than contemplate it for too long. So, my question is this: does anyone use the Lite version of this program, how useful is it as is, and how powerful is the full version? Is it really worth 200 bucks? I ended up staying up for about three hours replacing my files; at least my pdfs gave me a guideline to go on as to what my layout choices had been, and I even found things I wanted to improve on. So in my case, I don't know that three hours equals $200, but for others, it may totally be worth it. Comments, please! Michael Wittenburg Music Administrator Sarasota Opera ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] bars too full
I would also like to turn off the automatic 'fill with rests'. I'm sure that I could do this in the Finale of years ago. What am I missing? Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback
On Mon, January 10, 2011 2:31 am, Daniel Wolf wrote: The non-standard key signature feature is superb if you are working with tuning systems in which accidentals represent constant numbers of scale steps within the tuning system at hand and you are either playing back through an external synth with full keyboard tuning facility, relaying it through a a program which adds pitch bends externally (i.e. Midi Relay or InTun), or by adding pitch bends externally to an exported midi file of the score (I use Scala for this). This works fine for temperaments with consistant accidentals Daniel, Must have been you and not Johannes who explained this before. What is the trick inside the non-standard key signature that allows the output values to be 'stretched'? What's happened to me (and what I mentioned in a previous post) is that I can output using custom accidentals until it gets to the next traditional value ... then it 'resets'. In other words, I can send out any number of divisions above C in (say) 1/8 tones, but as soon as I send a C-sharp, it starts the 1/8-tone scale over again from the 'real' C-sharp. Finale sends all those 1/8-tone accidentals as Midi values of C, C-sharp, D, D-sharp ... which works fine going to an 1/8-tone-tuned device. Where is the place in the non-standard key signature dialog(s) to indicate that stretch? And what happens when it runs out of official Midi notes? This is probably something I'm making too difficult, or I gave up on it too easily. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)
At 12:14 PM +0100 1/10/11, Florence + Michael wrote: The reason for having two copies is to allow different user accounts to have different default settings. When a user starts using Finale, the files are copied to their user library. I don't know which location is more obvious to those not in the know: it may be a problem of the Mac OS that there are similar-looking folders called Library in different places. I think MakeMusic are right to have different copies of the default files for different users, Hi, Michael. Could you or someone please explain why both operating systems seem to be so hung up on multiple users? I have NEVER shared my computer with other users and I probably never will. And on this campus, at least, there are no longer even any computer labs outside of our huge Math Emporium that was set up about 10 years ago so the math department could teach their undergraduate classes without having to pay faculty salaries. Every student on campus is required to have a personal computer with minimum specifications, and a suite of required software, and our music majors were advised to have laptops and to carry them to their classes since well before that became common. The Mac OS has had this ridiculous multi-user environment at least since they introduced OSX, and perhaps before that. WHY?!!! Time-sharing a single huge computer is a thing of the far distant past, along with carrying your programs around as a box of IBM punch cards. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] {Spam} Measure numbers
This is a long standing problem with Finale that MM is very aware of but not much is being done to address it. I believe this actual bug was introduced in FIN08 but it could have been 09. The only way around it is to use ACTUAL measures in program options. Steve 1/9/11 3:29 PM, Rafael L. Junchaya rjunch...@yahoo.com wrote: I think this is a sort of a bug (as I don't think it is the intended behaviour). When in Program Options/View, Display defined measure numbers is selected, and at the same time, some measures in the score are forced not to be included in the numbering, some processes linked to measures (like changing clefs, measure widths, breaking multimeasure rests and page breaks definitions) do work in the wrong place. It seems that someone forgot to consider those avoided measures in the maths for calculating the processes. Nevertheless, when Display actual measure numbers is selected in the Program options, no such weird behaviours are noticed. Fortunately, it seems that the measure numbers regions themselves are not affected. But this is very annoying. Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bars too full
Speedy Options deselect Fill with rests ... Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de On 10.01.2011, at 15:45, Steve Parker wrote: I would also like to turn off the automatic 'fill with rests'. I'm sure that I could do this in the Finale of years ago. What am I missing? Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)
On 10 Jan 2011 at 12:56, John Howell wrote: Could you or someone please explain why both operating systems seem to be so hung up on multiple users? Security. It's all about security. You need multiple user accounts to handle partitioning of permissions. There may be only one user logon for a particular machine, but there are going to be different accounts involved. For instance, on Windows, there's a SYSTEM account that is used for various system-related activities. It's not one you see defined in the list of users, but it's a real account, nonetheless. Any computer system needs to be partitioned into user-controlled data and system-controlled data (i.e., administratively-controlled) in order to maintain stability (early versions of Windows suffered from instability precisely because of too loose a structure in this regard, i.e., with plain users able to alter the OS and applications). You would not like a system that was not structured without such segregation of data and permissions and security. It would be unsafe and harder to use than what you have. What I would say about this is that an application like Finale where it's likely there will be user-edited templates, but that you'd want to retain the ability to use the original templates ought to have some kind of user interface to make it easy to manage your templates, i.e., a UI that would take care of storing the templates in the right locations so the user wouldn't need to be browsing the hard drive. With a proper management UI, the user shouldn't really care where the templates are stored. But I've never seen any software with templates that has made it really easy to manage templates. Of course, I also think the Finale template model is about 20 years out of date, but that's another issue entirely... -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Smart Score: worth the price?
On 10 Jan 2011 at 13:10, delius...@aol.com wrote: So, my question is this: does anyone use the Lite version of this program, how useful is it as is, and how powerful is the full version? I am a Luddite still using WinFin03, but I actually make use of the built-in Smartscore Lite several times a year. However, I only use it in these circumstances: 1. the source PDF is generated from a music notation program, not scanned. 2. I need to create a score in order to create parts that are different from what's available. This means I don't really care that much about the score itself -- all I'm interested in is creating parts. There are certain annoyances (like the creation of staves with independent key signatures, which leads to the idiotic insertion of key changes when all that is in the score is an accidental), but I definitely feel it's better than retyping the whole thing. The most recent such project is here: http://tearesofthemuses.com/Editions/Scores/Altenburg- InDichHabIchGehoffet/ It's based on a Werner Icking Archive original. I wouldn't pay money to get better results, though. But my requirements here are very limited and the scores quite simple (I'm not bothered, for instance, with the fact that I have to type the lyrics in myself). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] fort. markings
Because of the confusion in the forewords where I state I use italics for editorial addtions. You know Brian's house style, is it ok in your opinion for me to change these dynamics back to italics? Thanks Dennis! I hope you are doing well! Kim On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:37 AM, dc den...@free.fr wrote: Kim Patrick Clow écrit: I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions. I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part. Here's a screen shot of what I have now: http://oi55.tinypic.com/2ng6ftl.jpg But here you obviously use brackets and not italics for editorial additions. So what prevents you from using italics for all the dynamics? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bars too full
Enter the Speedy tool and go to the speedy entry menu and uncheck fill with rests. ___ J. Scott Jones Band/Orchestra Director/Freelance Trumpet Player-Teacher/Music Engraver On Jan 10, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Steve Parker wrote: I would also like to turn off the automatic 'fill with rests'. I'm sure that I could do this in the Finale of years ago. What am I missing? Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bars too full
I see it under the speedy options menu when using the speedy entry tool. There is a box to check or uncheck if you want to reset the fill with rests at end of measure option. There's also a check box under staff options in the staff tool menu that controls rests appearing/not-appearing in measures. There might be other places. Michael mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 - Original Message - From: Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:45:51 AM Subject: [Finale] bars too full I would also like to turn off the automatic 'fill with rests'. I'm sure that I could do this in the Finale of years ago. What am I missing? Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Smart Score: worth the price?
On 10 Jan 2011 at 14:26, David W. Fenton wrote: I wouldn't pay money to get better results, though. But my requirements here are very limited and the scores quite simple (I'm not bothered, for instance, with the fact that I have to type the lyrics in myself). And I forgot to add: Try it and see how the results are. It may take some tweaking of settings to make it work. And I forgot to mention that with some versions of Smartscore Lite you have to feed it graphics files (maybe later versions can take PDFs directly), so you'll need some method for generating graphics from a PDF, if your source is a PDF (I use PDF995 and PDFEdit995). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bars too full
Thanks to Eric, Scott and Matthew! I shall input with more happiness now. This is where I need to get up to speed when there are menus in menus in menus.. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback
On 10 Jan 2011, at 12:28, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: What's happened to me (and what I mentioned in a previous post) is that I can output using custom accidentals until it gets to the next traditional value ... then it 'resets'. This explains why I thought I'd achieved it a few times but went back and decided I'd fooled myself. Roll on the new 'Assign Pitch Bend to Accidental' command.. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback
On Mon, January 10, 2011 2:45 pm, Steve Parker wrote: On 10 Jan 2011, at 12:28, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: What's happened to me (and what I mentioned in a previous post) is that I can output using custom accidentals until it gets to the next traditional value ... then it 'resets'. This explains why I thought I'd achieved it a few times but went back and decided I'd fooled myself. Roll on the new 'Assign Pitch Bend to Accidental' command.. Did you see Daniel's message? He may have an answer for you. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] beaming question
On 1/10/2011 2:11 PM, dc wrote: In 6/8, how can I get Finale to not beam together notes that are separated by rests (two 8ths separated by a rest, for instance)? Make sure your time signature is 6 x eighth note, not 2 x dotted quarter. Or use Utilities | Rebeam to Time Signature to accomplish this. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Playback in transposed scores while enteringnotes
Hi everyone, This is a feature I have wished for since going back to writing transposed scores several years ago. I would welcome it as an option and will send a request to MM. BTW, does anyone know if there is a way at the MM site to simply endorse an existing request? Best, Don Hart On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Timothy A Johnson taj1...@gmail.comwrote: ?Thanks for the suggestion David, I hadn't added to the thread - but I too have been bugged by this but done nothing. Now I have. Anyone else can go to: https://www.finalemusic.com/store/login.aspx?t=/rightnowproxy.aspxp_next_page=ask (or http://bit.ly/hf7TgS) to log in and request it too. -Original Message- From: David H. Bailey Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 3:44 AM ...in order to show the people who decide what gets implemented and what doesn't everybody who wants this option needs to contact MakeMusic directly, and get all your friends and relatives and coworkers and everybody you've ever met to do the same. ...if enough people request it, it gets put on the list of things to work on. ... And even though it might seem like a lot of people on this list are requesting it, only about 5 or 6 people have actually participated in the thread, which isn't a very big number given the many thousands of Finale users around the globe. -- David H. Bailey ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] beaming question
On 1/10/2011 3:32 PM, dc wrote: I want: 8 8 8 beamed (in the same beat, of course) but not 8 _ 8 Well, you can break all the beams by hand, of course, but that's not a great solution if you're talking about a long passage. You can also do this with TGTools Bream Breaker. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] beaming question
On 1/10/2011 3:15 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/10/2011 2:11 PM, dc wrote: In 6/8, how can I get Finale to not beam together notes that are separated by rests (two 8ths separated by a rest, for instance)? Make sure your time signature is 6 x eighth note, not 2 x dotted quarter. Or use Utilities | Rebeam to Time Signature to accomplish this. In Finale these days it seems we have a choice -- if we want 3 8ths beamed together we need to choose 2 x dotted quarter, but this also forces 8ths in a half-measure to be beamed even when separated by an 8th rest. Or we can select 6 x 8th note but then we don't get any of the 8th notes beamed, even if we want them to be. So the best I can suggest is to select whichever meter is going to help more of the time and correct what's needed by hand each time (it's only a single key stroke to break those beams over the 8th rest). It's too bad in the Document Options dialog under Beaming there isn't an option to break 8th-note beams over a rest in 6/8 time. Yet another option for us to lobby MakeMusic for! Yippee! -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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--- On Mon, 1/10/11, dc den...@free.fr wrote:
From: dc den...@free.fr
Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] beaming question
To: finale@shsu.edu, finale@shsu.edu
Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 3:32 PM
Aaron Sherber écrit:
Make sure your time signature is 6 x eighth note, not
2 x dotted quarter. Or use Utilities | Rebeam to Time
Signature to accomplish this.
That was my first idea - but then three 8ths don't get
beamed together.
I want:
8 8 8 beamed (in the same beat, of course)
but not
8 _ 8
(where 8 = 8th note and _= 8th rest)
Dennis
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Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] beaming question
If there are a large number of bars in a row to be fixed you can also use the 6 x 8 time signature with 'different sig for display' so that finale doesn't add a redundant time sig announcement. Steve P. On 10 Jan 2011, at 20:49, David H. Bailey wrote: On 1/10/2011 3:15 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/10/2011 2:11 PM, dc wrote: In 6/8, how can I get Finale to not beam together notes that are separated by rests (two 8ths separated by a rest, for instance)? Make sure your time signature is 6 x eighth note, not 2 x dotted quarter. Or use Utilities | Rebeam to Time Signature to accomplish this. In Finale these days it seems we have a choice -- if we want 3 8ths beamed together we need to choose 2 x dotted quarter, but this also forces 8ths in a half-measure to be beamed even when separated by an 8th rest. Or we can select 6 x 8th note but then we don't get any of the 8th notes beamed, even if we want them to be. So the best I can suggest is to select whichever meter is going to help more of the time and correct what's needed by hand each time (it's only a single key stroke to break those beams over the 8th rest). It's too bad in the Document Options dialog under Beaming there isn't an option to break 8th-note beams over a rest in 6/8 time. Yet another option for us to lobby MakeMusic for! Yippee! -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] beaming question
I'm not near finale now, but there is a document option called beam over rests that can be turned on or off, isn't there? Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:26 PM, dc den...@free.fr wrote: David H. Bailey écrit: In Finale these days it seems we have a choice -- if we want 3 8ths beamed together we need to choose 2 x dotted quarter, but this also forces 8ths in a half-measure to be beamed even when separated by an 8th rest. Or we can select 6 x 8th note but then we don't get any of the 8th notes beamed, even if we want them to be. So the best I can suggest is to select whichever meter is going to help more of the time and correct what's needed by hand each time (it's only a single key stroke to break those beams over the 8th rest). The 3/8 was just one example. In most cases, for the music I do, I don't want any rests at all under beams, and I find it strange that this doesn't seem to be a beaming option. Couldn't a plug-in check this and remove all the beams over rests? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] beaming question
No, the option is to extend the beam over a rest to the right side of the beam. Steve P. On 10 Jan 2011, at 21:29, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote: I'm not near finale now, but there is a document option called beam over rests that can be turned on or off, isn't there? Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On Jan 10, 2011, at 4:26 PM, dc den...@free.fr wrote: David H. Bailey écrit: In Finale these days it seems we have a choice -- if we want 3 8ths beamed together we need to choose 2 x dotted quarter, but this also forces 8ths in a half-measure to be beamed even when separated by an 8th rest. Or we can select 6 x 8th note but then we don't get any of the 8th notes beamed, even if we want them to be. So the best I can suggest is to select whichever meter is going to help more of the time and correct what's needed by hand each time (it's only a single key stroke to break those beams over the 8th rest). The 3/8 was just one example. In most cases, for the music I do, I don't want any rests at all under beams, and I find it strange that this doesn't seem to be a beaming option. Couldn't a plug-in check this and remove all the beams over rests? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Articulations (tremolo slashes) not staying in place
On 2011-01-10 19:12, Steve Larsen wrote: I'm using Finale 2011b on a PC, and I've run into a really vexing problem with tremolo slashes. When I try to apply the tremolo marking to notes written high above the staff (like Violin I) the tremolo sign ends up appearing under the staff. When I click the handle to move it, it immediately jumps to the top of the staff (not where I want it), and then allows me to move it into the staff. Then, when I change the view on the page by scrolling, it jumps back down to under the staff. I haven't seen this in Fin2011. Do you use the default settings for the articulations, or is (for example) any of the staff settings checked? mvh/ Jari W. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 1/10/2011 4:23 PM, dc wrote: Couldn't a plug-in check this and remove all the beams over rests? TGTools Beam Breaker ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
